Board of Education — January 26, 2017

session of the board of education on Thursday January 26 2017 ready begin i al to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands one nation under God indivisible with liy and justice for all thank you okay so ladies and gentlemen we are going to do this just a make comment now you or you can listen

in on the discussion and at the time I will ask there are any comments or questions as a reminder we can only entertain public comments or interaction as long as it is and are there any well good evening everyone tonight you are going to see what I hope is a visual treat and I hope my board has a little fun tonight with

this I've asked Jim D Camilo from wlc to do what he's done up and down the state with a number of boards where Aon issue has passed to actually have a visuals talking to them about what kind of projects they have and prioritizing those projects you have in front of you hope all of you have a copy of this

which is actually a representation of the long range facilities master plan these are all the projects in this master plan and so Jim is going to walk the board through um the plan and talk about what they see as far as the first issuance and as many issuances as they want in the future so with that Jim

you're on have fun okay board member okay will I'm GNA try and make it fun okay good evening everybody happy New Year Jim d celo wlc as a wise superintendent told me a long time ago as the board will recall the last time we were together was uh in the fall and and we were at that time

planning uh measure G establishing a master plan adopting that plan when I was here last time we had moved into what I call the beginning of an implementation plan not a master plan master plan is the universe of all projects that has that was born out of hundreds of meetings and discussions all across the district but it is the entire

universe of projects within that are subsets of projects some of those will be done out of measure G and that's one of the things that you're hopefully going to help yourselves say you're going to help me but you're going to help yourselves with with this exercise because the bond uh measure G passed congratulations seriously congratulations it was I know it was a

an exciting time but you are to be congratulated and if you remember when I was here last time I talked about this and that there were actually two Bonds on the B one yours and one from the state of California and I was asked the last time I was here well how do we know what to do I said well if you remember

sth grade algebra there's too many variables in the equation to solve it right now the answer to your teacher would have been this is unsolvable but we now know in the nuclear missile analogy I used last time you both turned your key you remember I said last time I was here hopefully remember that if you passed your bond and the state didn't

you'd have different decisions to make if the state passed their bond and and you did it you'd have different decisions to make and obviously if neither one of you passed your bonds well we probably wouldn't be having this meeting well we might but it'd be a completely different type of a meeting what happened instead was the double

binary choice you both passed your bonds and so with that we now have taken two of the variables off of the equation we now know you P Bond and the state P Bond so it's time to work on the next step of your implementation plan so if you'll recall in this diagram you've seen before this is your I always joke and

for those in the audience this is a visual presentation so the only way you are going to see it is to be on that side of these easel the uh so this this is not the state of Texas this is your district and if you recall uh these dots uh gave a quiz last time U reminded you of where

all the various projects are and the types of projects that they are across the district I put this up only as a reference to where we left off last time I was here we were doing just Roose planning on a board on a on a board with put markers now we can take that to the next level and I think one of the

anxious parts for uh my clients at this point is this starts to become more and more concrete but it's not unlike the way we design buildings you you start from your a concept then it becomes more and more and more concrete universe and and a language architecture you're to working in but I'm trying to do this with tools that make it easy for for you

to do it and I I've used this exercise before as as uh Wayne said throughout the statement and most boards have found it very helpful the challenge with a bond of your size and even smaller ones is that there's so many projects you don't really know what to do with them you remember what I said last time I did not

allow the use of the p word uh priority okay you are not to use that word prior to your bond passing and that's mostly because people get the wrong um they get the wrong impression from that they get the impression my project isn't important if it's not a priority and I explained to you last time that's not the case in our world of

architecture of construction at all there are certain things that logically proed others it's not because they're more important I believe I told you we generally don't put the roof on the before we pour the foundation both are important to a building one is typically done first it's not because it's more important it's because there's a logical order to an implementation plan and so

one of the things we'll look at this evening and that they're going to help me with is how to order the disorganized so you have a you have a a shopping list basically in front of you of projects how we've done that how I've done this in the past is with um and this I hope this works this um this is what I have

uh call that many have used throughout the state as the build-a bond thermometer there you go um this is in millions okay uh yikes okay so there that is a $200 million United Way thermometer now remember you passed a bond that is in the equivalent range we're going to use round numbers here this evening because we're the

conceptual implementation plan mode she passed a bond that is essentially four times that okay now you also remember as our finance folks told us last time that you you're not actually authorized and you even have a capability of selling all of those bonds right now and in fact you will make votes or a board like you will

make votes all along the way to sell buys he'll vote to sell bonds at a certain point but we know that the the prob probably the largest sale that could go on in the initial increment and again I'm just simplifying here is in somewhere in this range in here that's the largest sale and it's based on your

assessed valuation so one of the things you have to decide is what to set your staff to to start implementing what projects you want you you want to start implementing all of them you don't even have the money to build them all yet okay well it's great you passed the bond was like the bad news of having having a

kid they give it to you at the hospital and you go now what am I supposed to do with this thing you you know so this is the the issue what do I do to raise this to raise up this program and to create the program now I've brought two thermometers and the reason I did is because what many boards do at

this time and this isn't this board's discretion what many boards do at this time is they not only plan their first increment but they also begin to plan their second why the reason is because like any Journey since you know you're probably not at the end of The Journey you kind of want to know do I turn left

or right at the SOP sign when I get there so what many boards do is they will at least begin to get a little more concrete on increment to now you're not you don't even have the authority to spend increment to but planning is planning ahead not planning behind so what I what I will um hope the board can

help you help yourselves with this evening is figuring out okay if we can if we can lay in some sort of concrete on increment one can we get the concrete semi fuzzly out too now I have your entire program here if this board wants and some boards I work with do they go all the way through they just get on a roll and they say

here is how the rest of it would lay out you're not voting to do anything here but at least you get an idea of what would be increment three and four and we can do that this evening if you like I work for you not the other way around so basically we have the entire program here now how I've done this is very very

simple you all of the projects and what's comp what's difficult for people when it's just on a marker board is they don't understand the scale of the projects all your projects that are listed in your in your master plan are not of equal value some are more expensive than so this exercise I think is very helpful and you're free to help

me with it as much as you feel fit um you chain of the chairs but here's how this works okay because you both turned your keys both you and the and the state turned your keys you are eligible if you'll remember to to modernize a significant number of schools in other words they're old enough if you remember modernization is

a state term it means your school is 25 years old follow and it means that if you do that you can go and apply for State money to get matching funds um s Chen has described many many times to this board how that was used to increase the value of measure M so if you use that same principle with measure

G even a veteran like me still having trouble with getting used to saying that if you use that same principle with measure G you would say G Jim how big of a of a piece of the bond is that modernization piece that's what you should be asking and now I'm going to show you okay so the the the

modernization pieces start to fill up the thermometer and the board may recall that we did this on the marker board last time but I think this is far more visual that is the modernization thermometer why three pieces you'll see this it's very difficult to do your entire bonded individual pieces these are the elementary schools these are the

junior highs uh these are the junior highs that qualify and this is I High School which qualifies so if you haven't figured it out these pieces correspond exactly on the thermometer to the temperature that it's running so these are these are exactly in scale can I add something and the handout that everybody has the colors kind of go hand in hand

with what you see on the thermometer board so and they're Mark with modernization additions etc etc now and just to to confirm this is not the order no this is not a priority list this just a list yeah semi alphabetical but organized by project type your your bond is broken into types of projects and one of the major categories it may be the

simplest to sort of think about is this modernization category now remember you both turn your key so in reality the state's going to match these fots in fact they're going to match them plus it's a 40 60 program 40 from you 60 from the state so this is just your portion of what you qualify for right now Jim uh

Chino Hills High School is up there but it's not here uh no it's not it's not on here Chino Hills High School is not old enough to qualify oh it's Canyon Hills sorry it's I'm a little slant yeah it's a tough deal okay so this is H roll Rolling Ridge Oak Ridge uh Lial hidden Trails Eagle Cad and Country spinning

Howard cattle Butterfield Ranch two Junior highs Town ziming Canyon Hills and then I high school okay M so that's your piece of it get that money from the state you have to have DSA approved plans which we're currently drawing okay and you then get in line with other districts to go get the money so you you've already begun to

make an investment in plans this would be the full investment of the plans and the construction of those projects so the state's going to put in this much more so like you remember from measure M this is going to take what is that like 65 million and over double it in the first increment now you can just say

right now we want to do that in the first increment we want to do that in the second increment okay that's what this exercise is for okay another thing that became um uh another project or type of project that became a big issue when we when I was here last time and this is where this gets interesed

because I look at as a simple part okay by the way your meeting not mine does anybody raise an eyebrow around or whatever over this being an increment one I I don't this is we we'll see but I wanted but I wanted to to say there's no guarantee that we're going to get 60% in the state UH 60 to 40 yeah it's actually

it's a guarantee no no and here is where the and here's but the only way to get to that ticket is to have an armband if you will like going to a concert the only way you could get in the lottery to get in the show is to have the armband and that arm band is planned and you've

already made that investment in plan this would say we would want you know Not only would we want to do the investment in plans we actually want to build them if we get the money we'll actually build them and that's why this is so fluid so you're going to see this in a second it's a good question is well

what if that what if we don't get the money well if you don't get the money you have two choices you remember I said this before prop 51 pass you can go ahead and do the whole thing yourself in other words you would double this quot up to here because the projects are going to cost what they're going to cost

and the state will reimburse you that money I'm not voting for that but you have the ability to to do that they will re so Jim that amount right now that represents our 40% that's your half 40 60 yeah that's your half that's what's in the master plan yes sir it would be encouraging that they start with a and

the uh now that's another order that goes in uh you'll see architect's very organized mind you're first going to organize thermometer one within thermometer one you will then organize again not tonight but you now at least have marching orders as to what a one is and then you start figuring out okay because you only do this as plans are

approved and as they're uh then uh opsc Office of Public School construction funded so you might say that but it may turn out that the timing isn't quite right we can get some done one summer and so you know again this does not mean a project is more important it just means it's more practical to do it at

that point that make sense so so those projects that represent 40% um you said we said something about that's what's in our book it's in the master plan those same dollar amounts okay is that dollar amount 40% of the total cost okay so is any specific one of them so 15 million for aala means the whole project

is more like 35 yes and is there an advantage to doing these in the first phase because of the state on money run out exactly which is what we did with measure we we went after that state money as fast as we could now I'm not trying to get as super complicated here but it is complicated you you have

a lot of tools in your tool box CU both of you passed your B So within remember I said does anybody raise an eyebrow and I don't think so so for now it's not a magic show but for now let's leave that because I see basic consensus that the board in general says yeah that seems like a logical thing to do I bring that

up because it would be nice for the turns to see the end result their their efforts well the order like you know in terms of an implementation you may recall and I gr this year we implemented many of the measure on projects they're they're organized based on you know what can I do these in a summer how much can I

spend on uh a school in a given summer or can't do I need to you know build an inter room campus while this is going on that's how they're organized you want to put and you'll get to this later not tonight you think just always think you have a lot of money tax let's say but it isn't infinite so you know you do have

to spend your money judiciously so that comes later then you start figuring out the implementation plan for IA High School what's the most efficient way we can modernize SCH okay that comes that'll come later so let's start with it from your past experience at this point what would be the chance esate of us receiving the state fund been funded

before so we've never not been funded I'll use the Wii so we've never not been funded so yeah there's never been a time when we haven't been funded so is that a is that a for as I'm I'm not a stock broker is that a forecast of future returns I don't know but we've never not been fed

Jim talk briefly for the public welfare about modernization and just as a reminder what it looks like at a school yeah well modernization is is truly just a state term it we use it than renovation and modernization simply means your school is 25 years old after that basically it's up to the district to determine what they do with the funds

the funds are are given as a grant based on the number of students that are at AA High School to qualify by the number of kids so all they do is take that Grant multiply by thousands of dollars a kid and that creates your and we've already done those calculations that's where these numbers came from for I want you

talk so now within that you basically go shopping you can create the scope that is the modernization at each of these schools we have done so much of it with you we pretty much know what the scope wants to be but other than bringing things up with to the Americans with Disabilities Act that's the only Central requirement codewise after that

you will be spending money now what will you spend it off it's in the master plan you will most likely spend it on we're working with Martin and his staff right right now to help finalize those Scopes some schools need air conditioning replace some need Plumbing replac some it's different at every school but it's pretty it's generally I would say meat

and potatoes type of renovation work but in the world of what I do it's called modernization Uh and it will it will involve all of the systems and finishes within the school we're not we cannot build anything new with modernization money we're not going to add a wing it's in the it's within the square footage of the

bu this and you've done this before many of your schools you've already modernized because they were 25 years old before and I'm sorry and the the scope of let's say for instance the scope of the work of aella for modernization is in yes yeah you will find it if you go to the master plan in the master plan is

a diagram the diagram is a color that's associated with it and if you go to the front of the document it will explain what that color means and it gives you all of the various things that we've built into the cost estimates of what we think we'll be able to touch with that color of intensive so newer schools are

much lighter in color because they're they're newer they don't need as many things that and you'll find that list at the front of the master yeah well I'm seeing IA listed in a couple of places so that's correct because I I recall that we were going to be getting rid of many of the Portables AA which you just said doesn't fall into

modernization so they're going to come their work is going to come out of a couple of different they're on the table over here Pockets yeah okay that's right it's only is only essentially your permanent square footage that's it gets complicated and that's why I wanted to know whether the items dealing with modernization was in here so that we can

go back and look at what it it is yeah in the book is it highlighted different look at the plan the darked that's the stuff that gets modernized yellow is is construction thank you yeah we yeah I mean this is you sort of need that book down and it's we create it in such a way that should make

it pretty all they all look the same once you get used to the vocabulary should be I'm put my next piece on the book like that 7 million for yeah can some of that money go no has to stay on the property and and they will audit you later State of California they're going to come back and they're going to

say G Val Unified School Board you would you spend the money on and so you will have an auditable account with them okay so that's that's your modernization now another thing that was big to the board um was uh looking at uh technology upgrades across the district and you'll remember I did this in what was called called an incremental mode and so this

same piece appeared on your markerboard version of this in the fall four different times and you know some District called it an endowment or something you spend all your you you could load this in where it's you know you could spend the entire thing on technology but in this case we have we have put in a figure based on

dollars per class room in your in your B okay now this gets complicated that's not the purpose of this meeting but it would say okay we're going to spend an increment of the technology piece that's put in the in the master plan in increment one we don't that's okay what's that what's the total amount that 14 million Jim the

security yes in the master plan because okay in the master plan because we don't know when we write the master plan what's going to pass one of the important things to the community that we met with was security Now security falls into a number of categories of the master you could be using renovation work or modernization work for that work

remember I said we're going to replace a door we're going to replace a door you I'm throwing the door and the hardware out I might as well put the new security Hardware on that door there are other schools however this isn't your whole District so I you know if I'm going to have the same security system at your

whole District then I may want to use the first technology increment to fund that project that may be your first true technology increment will be funding that what we call Access Control districtwide this is just a third of your District so right now we know that there's going to be a technology PE and at a later date we are going to start to

identify what's Yeah you sort of have this is going to sound terrible but you sort of have to go shopping these are complicated systems and there will be costs associated with it but that's not the last time technology shows up is constantly you know it's constantly being updated so we do not recommend you spend your entire technology increment

in increment one right you will spent that in look I preaching you you will have spent that in 2018 you will get to 2028 and go what's a computer you might get what what's a cell phone you know it's in my head it's a chip in my head so we do not recommend that and on the last Bond some of the schools we

designed me I'm not talking ancian history here some of the measurem schools did not have technology in them not the kind you think of today it didn't exist back then when those schools were bu and it does now so you look back 15 years you'd be shocked if what has changed so we recommend or I would suggest you meter in your

technology okay now another significant project and uh was the potential of rebuilding Chino High School okay it has a significant dollar value because it's 100% dist that's the state funded you're done with your state Pieces by the way that's the state funded pieces so now you start looking at strictly measure G funded pieces now there are some other state programs

within prop 51 and other Grant programs that that I work with Greg on and those sorts of things but they're not huge this is your your hugest uh increment of state level okay and by the way somebody upstairs says I have to stay within this circle or which is not easy for an Italian so um I'm doing the best I can

uh now we talked a couple times about the Reconstruction of Chino high school and it's actually the largest single uh single project if you will if you actually look at it it's it's not even you know as large as the modernization projects but as a single Camp is that that's your largest piece one of the things we talked about at Chino high

school though is that unless you're going to close the place and rebuild it somewhere else in town okay then you may then you may have to build it in two increments it may not be able to just be leveled and tell all the kids to go home for four years we'll get you know we'll get you when you're older so it may be

that Chino High School is not going to be 100% in increment one it's just too big of a project first of all you you you are now and I hope this exercise is now making sense it's like wheel unfortune you're out of money you filled up your thermometer but that was never the intent the intent was to say Chino

High School just the two thermometers is most likely going to spam two thermometers you'll remember I also said to you last time you sell these Bonds in chunks but don't think of the projects in chunks I'm going to ask you to sort of think theoretically with it here these projects span many years you have a limit as to the duration you can spend

the money in other words you can't tax the taxpayers by Finance people you can't tax the taxpayers and then never spend the money it has to be spent within a certain segment but these funds the projects often span two in that and where the funds are coming from to complete something because we can't cut a a zipper down the middle of a project

okay so that's Gino high school was another big project now it gets challenging okay before hang one one more piece because it's kind of obvious let me give you the other technology Gina High School is old yes it is yes so why does it is it not eligible for St cuz it's already used its modernization eligibility and you

only get to use it once it regenerates so it was modernized two three times in the last 30 years it's just not du yet again for quite some time this is um not for those in the audience uh This Is Not Unusual California is um I'm not but California is getting older uh and we have schools all over

the state that are now they're on their second or third modernization we always say at some point is sort of have to stick of pork in it that sucker is done and that's true at home or anything else you just can't keep renovating the same building over and over it just doesn't you know it's it basically becomes a

loss CA not that Gino high school so so in the master plan and in many many meetings rebuild Chino high school so how would that be done the reason it's two pieces is again because we may have to design around the concept of keeping the whole thing open which could mean to use the NFL stadium analogy that's going on right now is you

build it in the parking lot and then tear down the old school and then put the old school in the parking lot that's how this is done or it could mean that you just simply build half of it maybe you build rebuild classrooms so the kids can move into the classrooms take the school out and do the other but let me

blow your mind if the state doesn't have the money invest in the plans move all of this to increment two and build the whole thing at one time as this would now be here I say that again let's say the state you said Mr n asked the question what what if the state doesn't come through with the money okay well

you might say Well they're not going to come through an increment one but they'll have it by increment too you have your plans you're in line you've turned your key you may decide that we're going to go ahead and build the Chino High project all in one phase you don't know that yet either it's just there's variables to it but that's why

the pieces are I think so valuable but in my world of what I know today I don't know what I don't know what I don't know what I do know today it would look something like this you said that um in order to apply for the modernization funds that we have to have plans and that DSA approved

plans basically have to have permittable plans because they don't want districts saying sure we're going to build and then they never come get the money and now it's money Gino valy UniFi can't get to so how long does it take to get DSA approved PL we're in the process of drawing them now the plan is to submit

those plans in summer fall and it'll be somewhere around the first of the year or so now one thing you have is that DSA is getting busy because other districts pass bonds but you made a smart investment and that you actually started your plans a little while ago you you may not have even actually been super super aware of why but it turned out was

a very good investment CU we're already moving you're already ahead of District we haven't even selected an architect yet you are you you are in the diamond way okay so that's a good thing other districts either couldn't do that or wouldn't do that but you did turn into a smart okay here's another project that was big when I was here last time you

have a partner in Lewis development who is talking about building a second School in The Preserve okay and they're talking about doing it soon as the water's off the road uh that's a piece of The Preserve they're going to provide some of the funding uh superintendent asked me before you know where did I get this number we're trying to reserve a number

for that there's negotiations that are still going on with Lewis property value and that's not for you know public debate obviously was a board and Lewis debate that but we have reserved a hunk of money now that may hopefully be smaller right you know that's that's in the final purchase price of a home if you will so that is a conservative piece

of your part just this is the only other one you have a partner in and that is the Lewis Holmes Lewis development i Lewis Holmes uh piece being in there as well and that seemed to be a priority to the board last time because you have a partner uh if you wait you you know they're going I don't know what they're

going to do so you have a partner and you now have your funds and year around school and and yeah you should say the impl the implications to your to your your problem now another thing and this one raised some eyebrows last time so we're in my opinion we're sort of on the easy stuff but now it gets a little

harder another thing that we talked about was beginning to change the interior environment in the classrooms by beginning just like the technology piece by beginning to invest in a Furniture thing and that was the same face you made the last time I am not here to tell you what you're all free to come up and take pieces off of there or

rip the ettes off my ERS I am not here to sell Furniture but you can your bond it's in your master plan your bond Master PL said your bond said we're going to fund projects out of the master plan this is in the master plan so you can you can do that for me it makes sense to put Furniture in new buildings

or those that are but it doesn't make sense to put Furniture in all the schools just to put Furniture in all and this is very good and this is not looking at that what this might say think of it this way what this might say is hey Jim if we just modernized aala High School why don't we put that

investment into the schools we just modernized so when we finished modernizing them we don't move old furniture back into them we now move new furniture back into them like they were new when the school was built and when we get to the other schools then we'll spend another Furniture so when when we go through the schools we will put in

that inquiry a lot of districts do that and it would be nice that furniture is conducive to Lear definitely I saw picture of a rolling desk or or a rolling table so if you're going to Embark in something like with every student having new furniture the district is not able to do that no but the impact would be here

really cre an environment where they always discuss about communication collaboration so maybe a way to think about it is and maybe e some of whatever is to think of it like well there should be a Furniture component if you just renovated the school you're going to put stuff in sea containers or storage bins why not put the new stuff into the newly

renovated classrooms and that this it was never the concept to just come in and just go buy furniture everywhere that was never really the concept but you would do it in a logical order where as the schools are being done don't don't move old FAS or brand new class and these you remember measure classs are essentially for after cace of the

room change after modernization so you're starting to fill up the thermometers okay so now you really get the the tough choices well Jim what will we do to fill up the rest of increment one please forget about the fact that those mean Millions so well here are some of the things that we looked at now here's where it get starts to get challenging

one of the things we looked at was to say okay we have a whole bunch and and here's where you have some binary choices we have a whole bunch of projects that that are supposed to go on we call them addition this is the yellow blue here yellow in your book these are the additions this is replacing

Portables and putting in new facilities at your schools just like these they're broken down into the type School these are your Junior highs these are all your Junior highs and I remember last time there was some movement uh to we talked about putting gymnasiums and science lab upgrades at your Junior High who are that your Junior High this is the size

of that so you could look to do your Junior highs a little bit you're you're within the realm but remember Chino Hill Chino high school May squeeze you know part I can only make pieces that are so so so you could you know take AO ey and put it over there can I get you know can I buy

a vowel so uh but if you want it to be really pretty uh you know I can also make it fit you know so my first time playing with these I can also make it fit other way this are all the high schools this is upgrading all of your high schools facilities they don't currently have okay that's Ayala D Lugo

your current high schools AA D Lugo Gino Hills remember we did Chino already okay that's all the other improvements suggested at the high schools that could be done incrementally these can be broken apart but you get the size hopefully this is helpful to see the size of the scale I can't build you half a building once you once you do it you

pretty much have to use the whole piece but for example at AA there's multiple buildings in proposed R okay well that might be half of that this is AA for those who can't see it from there so you know you could buy half of that is this a program yeah that's a program that's an increment one and two program you've

come through you've modernized all the schools that are modernized youve incrementally fixed furniture and Technology at all the rooms you touch you have fixed up all the J highs and the high school that's a problem oh just real quick so so all the junior highs that's practical have in phe one maybe f um but they can be split into

pieces remember so for example you know I have to build somewh I we' be here for 4 days you can cut this down and make it fit in there move that over to there that's why I suggest you think about sort of planning increment one and two kind of where you're going so I don't know me personally but I like additions

before addressing um the needs at our schools like whether it's a renov now I don't know what the difference is between renovation and site work okay here's the difference okay renovation renovation is in green in these pieces now renovation is all of the work that is not uh these are all the schools that are not not in the

modernization program these are all your other schools remember your modernization program here is significant it's it's a it's like a third 40% of your District so what we what we've looked at in the bond is bringing these other schools these are the schools that were renovated in measure am so they don't need as much work they they have the bathrooms Ada at

tied and all that already so this would be bringing all of those schools catching those up a little bit they don't need the same deep cleaning they need a cleaning but not a deep cleaning so the the master plan explains a scope of work there these two will eventually get old these school that's all the rest of the school with the exception of

Chino High which is essentially being okay so that's that's how much of that that can okay s site work is a uh is a category that we put in for uh uh fixing up playgrounds parking lots of fields and everything else and that's the face that was made last time okay they can't see you right well at least I'm

consistent yeah but that's that is good that you know you're beginning to prioritize okay interesting to see that is the removal of Portables at all of your elementary schools you're free to say yikes um that is literally how many Portables this district has at its elementary schools the addition at your Elementary School to get rid of all your Portables and

when I was here last time we talked about the demographic shifting in the district and so this was not a uh immediate priority at least not holistically across all the sites because you one of the reasons you're building up preserve is because you've got you know kids down there so but this is the scale of that that is how it's a

you know individually not large not individually but as a whole if you did it as a project it would basically be your entire increment one thermometer I am not telling you to do it or not to do it it's your program okay that's almost all the pieces I have other than the fact that if this was increment 1 2 3 and four

these would now get another increment of furniture and Technology this increment W as well you're about to build four bonds right here four programs whether you knew it or not there was some discussion of a new school at College Park okay and then there is the site work piece this is the site work piece and the site

work is the parking lots play Fields uh that kind of thing and you can imagine that if you did if and I'm not like trol high school or not it's just smaller pieces if you looked at doing the high schools and the let's say the the junior highs the ones that get a lot of sports activity and a lot of stuff like that

then you could do that you could probably take a snid bit out of here and get uh play equipment at schools that sort of thing doesn't look as undaunted now does it this is your bomb this is the entire Master PL is it bigger than 750 yes because remember these go up to 200 million but it's not a lot when you

look at it this way I think as an exercise it says this is doable we can touch the entire you can touch your entire District that make sense I just and I guess that would be for us to uh break up the additions you have the five junior high but we have two more because we have the K8 uh all your

campuses are in here somewhere it just depends like BRS right oh okay yeah they're all every single this every single everything in the master plan is on this board right now with the exception of the site work pieces I just put down okay it's every school in the district yes what's the adult school facility the adult school well that's an

excellent question the adult school you caught me the adult school we have a um we have a piece in the master plan for looking at completely reenvisioning the adult school and it was a it was uh not a not less important it wasn't a you know burning issue here fact you've actually been investing in the school uh you know for years we're

doing a small addition to the adult school right now this looked at what what if you literally reinv Vision The Adult School in its entirety and rebuild it it wasn't built as an adult school it was an elementary was here there is I'd like to add to that if we do have enough resources where we could build in new

adult school maybe we like to see it u in a more flexible fashion there's no more funding for adult school then maybe we keep converting into junior high if we can meet the standards and and the items that are required to have then it could be easy other yeah in the game show mentality and hopefully this isn't isn't too fun it's kind of a wild

card the adult schol it's in there in your master plan to essentially be completely rebuilt primarily because it isn't actually even it wasn't built as it's one of these programs you have that isn't even in a facility was originally designed and that's quite common District by so it was envisioned in the adults in the in the master plan to be essentially

completely re-envisioned okay you'll see it's diagram in there it doesn't look like the footprint of the adult school at all yes we're not talking about renovation we're talking you make something just real quick so 2017 so the building let's take for the reserve that will start 2018 if you keep the if you keep the increment one thermometer as it's shown

here then uh the answer is yes uh much of that dependent on your partner with Lewis as to when they're ready with streets and Roads and all the rest of that stuff but let's put it this way you have your you've turned your key you have your fing if you put that in the first thermometer so it would happen as soon

as you're ready to rock and roll basically now you have to fill it up with kids remember Pres I can't you pick up his Cal Arrow that's all that you know to go into it but the answer is yes it could be moving right along you're not waiting work oh no it works it's just that now the things that I mean as a tool not as

a br no no it works it's just that um like for instance the things that I don't have like the modernization just seems like you're get matching M why would you do it well you do it because the buildings are old right well no but you're getting matching you are but but also remember those are your oldest buildings they

don't feel like it to many in this community but they actually are your oldest buildings now it's these other pieces that I'd like to go in and look at and see what entail do you have any moves you'd like to make it's like game you have any moves you want to make right now that you just want because I

can move them around for you as you can see how it would work is there anything in increment one that you would say no Jim this was the last piece we stuck up there was this and I don't want you to be fretting about the fact that it's a little a diagam so that's a preserve and this is Gino High preserve the

modernization seems logical so so the modernization for would be the performance art center no modernization is only what's there the Performing Arts Center is here yeah right there you want to touch on the use of Portables as your life R while you're doing some of this other work as well yeah we did yes thank you the you know

some of the issues that come up and and are why you why you need to help us with this right now is because we're drawing plans for the renovation modernization of our high school but you don't have to put everything back where it is okay the science building at Dan Lugo is not the original science Wing at Don Lugo okay

it was moved so we could renovate other things we move things out of it and then renovated programs So within this one of the things that come becomes important is well do we need to put something back because there is a science cluster at I so science going back where it was or is it going to go into a new building so we

can make room for this that's why that's why I do recommend increment one and two we haven't thought out cu some of this gets complicated that Greg's also alluding to a term can't if I used yet or not which is called interim housing I think and that is if we did a little bit of that but very little in measure that

means you rent Portables essentially you rent an apartment for the kids to live in while their Croots being renovated and we always recommend that you spend as little amount of money on as possible the best program would spend zero on that because it's rent just like anything else you're going to spend rent on that it's not free it doesn't go into

final break in B There is a value to doing that so I don't want anybody to say you know mon from now when I come in with a project and say we're putting it in thought you said not to do that okay there there are sometimes reasons to do it because time is money in construction and not everything can be done over a

summer the longer the contractor is on the site the more disruptive it is to your kids and the more expensive it is because they're there longer so it is it's a it's a balancing act we do to plan the project to say look we're going to rent some interim housing for a few months if that'll get the contractor off

my property sooner you know it's like remodeling your kitchen if I got to move into a trailer in the backyard fine I just want this guy out of my house then you then you do that cuz it's just faster and actually pay off that's that and not removing existing Portables because you may need them for your as a

as a life raft in of itself so for example on some of these addition projects that may actually come up in schools that are impacted it doesn't mean you're going to remove those Portables it may mean you want to keep them as a life wrap so we'll build a building next to them and then you can use those while it's being built again

the goal is to stretch if I had a stretcher I would stretch these pieces of cardboard as long as I could and make your program as big as I can make it yeah and we also have some I think EMP Lots you mean property yeah property and if the ground could be fix you could store um be that's in the details of the pro in

fact you've been storing they call it the Boneyard I don't know that's what you call it but you've been storing modular over by Vista three years fixed yeah that's that's something the district's actually done we've taken some of those and used and put other ones back and all that you do have some assets to use for that you want to be

light on your feet uh with uh you know with with your own money it's your own money so so hopefully this exercise begins to you know you don't have to complete it this evening but now you see you know what what I was talking about before because we know things now we didn't prior to the B now we know more

and and you and we'll know more and more and more but we need um for your for your staff to do what they need to do they need direction as to which are we heading east west they don't even know exactly the compass point but they need to know basically are we going east same phase two that'll be

implemented in 20 these fin people Tim it starts to things that we do bring up they can change except the ones that are following right now remember within within each of these things is a planning piece it's not huge just sliver of me doing drawings okay that's in here you can begin the planning of projects at any time you just won't you just

won't have the money for the heavy lifting of building and that's quite normal because you want to be ready to launch at the minute that starts remember you're going to get the money in big chunks okay and you could spend all of that money in year one there's no thing that says you have to meter the money out over the whole thing you're

going to get the money in one big chunk uh and then if you have the wherewith all you will do the work so I don't want you to think well that project isn't going to get finished till 2028 no that's not true at all it may not start till 2020 but it doesn't mean the duration of that project is through the entire

length of that income no that's not that's not corre Jim I've asked U Mr Barner to be here just to remind us again about the issuance Cycles with the bond maybe you can talk a little bit about that certainly the $750 million won't be issued all at once um andrene our bond counsil can talk about the tax

laws but essentially looking at a three-year Horizon when you issue a bond and that you reasonably expect to spend 85% of those dollars in that three-year period so as Jim's gone through and he's kind of put it into you know four chunks um you know it' be the district's responsibility if they were to borrow 200 million but they felt reasonably

that they could spend that money in a three-year period um and so that kind of goes into the phasing as well so while we could put 500 million of projects that are all immediately necessary whether the district has the wherewithal of the man power or woman power excuse me person power uh to really get all those those projects done and that money

spent with that period of time so that's something else to be considering as you look at the prioritization um and as you know an access to the market is not going to be a problem so financing a portion of the Chino high school project in the first Bond and then having some of the money come in the second bond is fine there's

not going to be an issue where G the Project's going to have to stop because we don't have the money the money will be there we break it up under two phases at least for the funding side not like your whole it's not like your whole program stops and then Waits months and then goes out to the next

thermometer I think yeah real quick before yeah you know see this is what I'm thinking you know I I heard maybe there's a possibility that Governor Brown is trying to support a reduction of special a so I said to myself well you know in the future maybe there might be a need for special classes that are designed

you so so if things change over time the money C they might be new issues in the future right and that's why your plan I author many of them is not that specific you have to be right on your feet when we started measure M there wasn't anything called CTE Career Technical education didn't exist now it does this master plan you

have allows the district to be flexible go after money where they shared money to get their programs they haven't even invented yet that your master plan will allow you to access some additional it's not going to CLE Bond but some additional State funding Grant and like and that may be one of them yeah there's nothing in the master plan language or

in the bond language that prudes you from doing excuse me um me personally I I like first space thus far but I like the idea of do Renovations before I do any addition okay um so that would look like so you would start to remove you would you would start to remove the blue that's why we color I me the the diagram

would start looking more green so if we did that then your diagram looks more like that I agree as well and this means that every square foot in the district every existing square foot in the district would now be at that renovated SE when you got to the end of every permanent building in the whole District would have gone through

some sort of sign get renovation so I think like for me I would like to you still have room by right because I I want to go back and actually look at what everything um at this point I just want to see if there's any comments or questions from the audience any question regards to infrastructure of our school so such as renovation cre

to four millions of dollarars into our school to renovation how do we determine or ensure that the infrastructure of those schools are sound such as $20 million for Don Lugo how do we ensure that in 10 years after that project's completed we don't come to a point realize that our piping is bad we need to knock that school down and start over

there as well there is it's excellent can I excellent question that those studies are done have been done sort of U uh in a sort of square foot type basis right now uh the deeper study of that goes on once the board tells us which projects they want to focus on because if you would hav't looked at it now but

that thing isn't until thermometer 4 who you don't even know what's going to break that far out so we will be doing that those studies especially on the modern if the board says Jim go like Heck on the modernization those studies are done at that time and then there are other thing I mean there's things going on at Cheeto high school right now so I

don't want the community to think well that means my school doesn't get touched till whenever that's not the case there are always projects going on throughout the district because things break but you generally want to do those studies as close as possible to actually doing the project because that's when you'll know its current state of being at that

point and that's part of the work we do as Architects and you know that was done for measure M such as the how do we avoid the Chino High concern that I I actually didn't work on the renovation of CH high school so so would be I'm going to call them inspection the due diligence you do at the time that

you're going to do the work at that school such as D Lugo will that due diligence or inspection ensure that we don't have a repeat of what happened at G not completely and that's because just like at home things break I wish I could be that specific but I know I have friends in the construction industry here not completely I mean you you can't

guarantee what's going to break tomorrow my father's an aerospace engineer he's sending things into space But even they have systems upon systems upon systems you can't guarantee it that's I wish I could but I can't but you do your due diligence when the project starts Martin and his staff are working diligently on the due diligence and they're giving us a report because they

know what the work orders are that they get right now so we immediately focus on the things that we know right now are breaking do we know exactly that things are going to break 5 years ago five years from now no but the master plan actually has money in it to replace almost everything somebody asked me one

time ago you know Jim how do we know which air conditioners are going to break okay over this thermometer they're all going to break they're all going to break over the length of this thermometer so what there is doesn't make you they will all be replaced and if you and Mr Rosco's plan you they're all gone now this this

replaces all of them and every square footage in the district what you see on that that does that answer your question yes yeah well just make a quick I think agree with them because we had problem in high school we'd have1 million for repairs and still we stuck with the pipe problems and that's one of the reasons

for this big piece one of your challeng hi uh I have more of a comment more than a question for youall I'd just like to to remind you guys that you know as as nice as these charts are and how colorful and how great it sounds to have all this money this is not your money this is the taxpayers money that is

being extended at a great cost um every decision you make is I I'm in my mid-40s I'll be 80 years old before this bond is paid off so you guys are are making decisions that is essenti creating a generation of debt um and while I agree modernization is needed it's good Chino High School certainly needs to be fixed

um looking at phase two phase three phase four I just want you guys to really look into your your hearts as you look at these projects and remember the great cost that this is over over the lifetime uh a $750 million debt that really is 1 61.7 billion dollar that um is a tremendous amount on the impact of our

community so please just keep that in mind as you guys are making these decisions and and I appreciate that comment and I think um the board has taking that into consideration especially with for instance the amendment that Mrs Blair made at the last board meeting where she added the words up to that we could um sell bonds up to 750 meaning

that doesn't necessarily mean because we got the 750 that we will be spending the entire 750 um that and quite frankly this board will probably not be here on phase three and four and so and if it helps at all I only brought two th op not and that's intentional because you're right yeah and and many people

know that my position was that I just thought the bond dollar Mount was great and so um my focus is do what we need to do not necessarily all what we want that's me that's just me so what does the board feel we need to do this first is it still closed I think so I I just want to make sure

straight on uh and I'm not creating a Chino Hills Chino onaral thing here but because I understand Chino Hills was built much later in terms of modernization and those things but and you may have answered this with the renovation part of it when you got to that so my understanding was I I understand getting matching funds is

really important when you're giving 60% but when those schools and as I look at them now for the um modernization you know 11 of those 12 schools come out of the hills corre Hills and then when I look at the renovation three three of the 20 and then 14 of the 20 comeo so it looks like a balance of that it pretty

much is I actually have a chart that shows the expenditures across the cities and it's almost equivalent dollar to dollar wasn't intended to be that way that's just how it worked out yeah so I think the answer that seems uh you know that they looked into that uh I just wanted to make sure that this also I

know when the measure m came off the 140 million as it was and those matching funds was much different than the 750 million so if we're proportionally doing that is those are those modernization funds raising up and bringing those schools in Chino to parody with those that are going to be modernized because 750 million for instance Chino Hill is

being built at $120 million but if I add up everything for aity adds up to $100 million so we're renovating modernizing adding to build hundred million in diala however new school brand new school is $120 million it's only $20 million difference yeah one one of the reasons for that is it's strictly just the math of like when the

stuff would occur there's an inflationary component and that kind of thing but you also have to think of U I designed that it was only designed for half of the kids that are there in other words the permanent square footage is literally half of the other so that's part of it so to make aala in a sense of I never use

equivalence parody with the other schools it actually has a huge propensity of portable classrooms that that wouldn't be there when they're done remember you may have been here at my previous presentation parody means when you're done are they similar they're not similar now just because they both have HS after their name does not mean they're both starting from the same

criteria very good point so with that Mr R I appreciate your point about is that we have to be careful with those numbers because some of those numbers rise way above meaning y'all I know they're looking at a theater and I'm all four of them getting a theater uh but when it's $55 million and I know that

includes some classrooms and those things that blue should be those things that are last on our priority compared to the renovations modernizations and those kind of things so could you tell me just lastly what all these numbers add up to I don't want to go home uh the whole master plan is is it is it based on the master plan it

is the master plan that is the master plan just ordered in a different methodology thank you thank you are there any other questions from the audience quick so you're a lot of what you're moving around there all grouped together and these be you know look at a car a 1985 car okay you have one that's been abused and you have one that's been

taken care of and they don't necessarily need to be restored equ right so can these be broken apart they have to be grouped together you can say you know this one needs this one needs a lot of work this one's good and and pick and choose you know the timing of it yes this one may not need it quickly this

one may need it you're kind of deferring some of the ones that have been taken care of better or in better shape than the on need more takes care of all these the um all kidding aside what we tried to do for this exercise and then it gets deeper deer and deeper what we try to do for this exercise was to bracket the

pieces by the type of school like Elementary School junior high and high school and part of that is there's a there's a tendency with these exercises to look at the input not the outcome the goal of this entire plan is to have an outcome of an educational Pro facilities that match your educational program so it's not all about fixing

base that's up coming on glute a lot of it is to say if I am a teacher at Magnolia junr High School and I go to Ramona when I get there will the facilities at that school be similar to do what I'm paid to do here in the Chino Valley Unified School District to teach science to teach

whatever and so we we tend to bracket them by age group because ultimately you'll be judged on the outcome not the input and again the base will be glued back to the wall no problem with that but what's the what's the program that's there at the end and so if you want to teach Junior High science holistically

across your District you better make sure that all the junior highs have science otherwise only one does and the other two are going you know what are we supposed to do that's that's why we bracket it and that's where I was going to chime in and say I know that it's still important and so I'm sorry that

I'm going to go against the grain about the addition we have room and we need parody it you know for me it's been about par and so there are still additions that are necessary at some of our Junior highs when some don't have science labs at all right exactly and and so I I still believe that there are some additions

that are necessary and required for curriculum if I cut this in half exactly and it's and it's funny because I really don't see that as an addition I see that as a necessity but I think right right right yeah so I mean if you did if you did that you will have now touched your high schools all the

other square footage in the district rebuilt Gino high and touched your Junior High SCH and wouldn't that be over either on you have enough space on either one I didn't bring scissors uh brick bricks isn't on there listed as a junior high yeah it's over it's over here as a k but it could be some some additions are and that's

why I think it's important for us to go through this and see oh I did I was sharing with Mrs I did like 40 sheets over and over but see there's projects within projects in the addition and those can start to be prioritized but like any novel or anything else you have to start from a concept and then start

breaking it down so for example there's classroom wings and gyms you know so you may say Jim or J we only want to do the classroom Wing part or the lab let's call it and so can you take out the gyms and put those to a a future thing absolutely that's yeah start from somewhere the other thing that I just

want to share um in breaking things up sometimes it makes and Jim please elaborate on this it makes sense to do projects that are similar from a cost standpoint it does if they're identical many in the construction industry are going to are going to tell you that I am not um I am not sure that that's all that true because you're

never going to build this twice so that sounds good theoretically but I don't know that anybody's ever really tested that if you're buying the air conditioners you're buying the air conditioners and and building two buildings and we've done them here in the district they still are built on different sites you're buy and drywall with different people so um I I wouldn't

steer my whole program based on there is some Savings in the economy of scale but um it's the outcome you should be focused on not the input yeah my question for the board is are there things that you can agree on tonight that you feel are absolutely needed for the first issue yeah I think I I think you

done I think we done it and faster than most I think I think that outline right now is for the first okay so you guys are I don't know about all the additions i' like off they're off well no these are all your Elementary editions and high school editions are over here those are your Junior High science labs which again

Wing which again if you decided June we don't want to do a gym but en so you know you know this could be whacked to do the classroom lab editions at your Junior High and it would fit perfectly within the first thermometer so Chino High The Preserve school modernization security which comes in in technology we're all we're all ready to

go when you're done modernizing install Furnishings into those buildings and depending on the agreement and how quickly they're weding The Preserve school might actually get moved to the second phas I said a partner there and that might free up some space to do another project you have to be light on your feet but there has to be

some basic plan and I think you have one and the B makes perect you have those are all the yeah I'm sorry you can't all see almost tical it's all based the we got sare footage of the schools but within that there's projects within projects within projects in each one of these schools now you the one the one thing

you know from working with me as long as you have you can't spend more money than you have so you'll have to to fit with the you know you have to fit within the thermometer and we will you will do it I'm convinced that you will do it yeah I think it's a I think it's a heck of a

start do you have uh if if we decided to just do the classroom Wing do you have an estimated cost of just I break it out for absolutely yeah a question um just this is probably a later phase question maybe not necessarily question Fusion but um the College Park Elementary School um I know that was was as addition um there

is a there is an existing cfd that has a $30 million Bond limit on it um is that is this $30 million considering that or is that just purely measure G money in within the similar to The Preserve School we've tried to reserve some money but that uh project has quite a bit of unknown to it uh in terms of who will

all the incremental funding come from we think this should be a significant expenditure towards building a College Park Elementary School in this case 8 but an elementary school so if you ended up in the position as a as a community where you had to get that other school built then there it is just a brief question I I think I

heard earlier um in regards to I know safe schools one of the core tenants up there is Access Control is that the primary function that's being listed right now as part of this program or are there any other yeah there's a couple um one is we have some money in the bond in all the monitorization work uh security

starts at property line and so we there's some money reserved in the in the bonds and in the renovation work or um uh Gates and the access control any of the community meetings I hosted you know a fence is only as good as the gate that was left open so uh yes many districts when they start those plans it

involves actually right out to the property line fencing and the like and then there is some in the camera sort of security as well the one that's the most touched is uh some sort of an access control system and those would entail ID cards uh that's a A system that the district is currently shopping like the other things you you the district will

be looking at the types of systems that you as a community can handle some of them are more expensive some have more features you know that ort of thing um the other thing we are talked about is uh what's called in the industry a single point of entry uh some of your schools were built at a time when the

office was literally right in the middle of the school so the master plan looks at moving some of those offices and some parts of the master plan it's actually a renovation project because that square footage is there we're just going to move it in others it's an addition project as the master plan suggests it's really complicated to move that you will

build a new office up closer to the front of the school I guess I just finalize with one uh comment that I think that crime prevention through environmental design can be use throughout the whole process the renovation construction and I just encourage the board to you know consider that for any projects yeah we get into there things like lighting and all of

that [Laughter] exactly um I just have a quick question and it's been written somewh else I'm sorry can you just elabor modernization those schools except for cattle all Ino Hills and I've been in those C actually they're not all in Chino Hills there is Cle except for I'm sorry yeah so can you elaborate exactly on what the modernization would be for

the4 million you mean what what's the scope of work okay the scope of work for modernization um almost uh every school in this District other than those yellow ones went through a modernization so it modernization is classically a pretty deep cleaning most of the surfaces in the school are replaced flooring ceilings lighting door hardware in some cases depending on its uh its durability

and its current like this gentleman over here said um Cabinetry how you know we don't replace it if it's in good shape but it's if you go into the inside of your school you will generally find that almost every single surface is brand new in those schools once they I know including restrooms and everything I mean it may be ironic because my kids

went to and I'm from but when you look at this laundry list and we're talking about Junior highs that don't not a laundry list that's a that's a thoroughly prepared master class so but my point is if we're talking about summer junor highs that don't have science classrooms why are we worried if why are we worried what a

countertop is like if that doesn't affect someone's education um whether or not they have brand new for Mica on their their counter uh that's that's an excellent question a lot of money million to each of these schools I'm answer I'll answer in many of these cases your schools are actually old they don't last forever these building so what you would think

of is well that's perfectly fine you want to also be very judicious with the way you spend this money because you're not going to get it again as the gentleman in the back said so that analysis is yet to be done just like the piping one we've reserved funds it doesn't mean you have to spend it all

and that's not I'm not you know some people think an architect's coming we're going to spend all your money that is not what we do for a living there's an analysis of this that has to be done and in some cases on measure M we chose not to replace things they were in good enough shape they were in fine shape not

even good enough they were good and so we did replace those things so I can I can promise you this I've been in this community a long time it's not willy-nilly but if you can take that ceiling out and replace those fluorescent fixtures with new LED light fixtures those lights work just fine but they consume currently a

hundred times more power than the LED fixture I'm going to put in or if those kids can now have wireless access to a computer network that can be done with modernization I completely AG now you've changed the education I completely agree with that inial statement were cabinets countertops I just want I want it to be specific because when we get into the

schools what you generally find is from a distance if you were to walk into your kidss classroom this looks fine if you start talking to the teacher or Martin you'll find out it actually looks fine Jim but that thing breaks every you know whatever and we need to replace that uh so it it varies from school to school to

school I know because this last ring I when I walked on the campus of Oakridge um you know the janitor was very resourceful in making sure that the trash can was collecting the water from the roof and Pok hold in it so it would go into the drain in the middle and that's part of modernization so keeping that in mind and like you know

Home Improvement aesthetically versus yeah this is not aesthetic work the other part the other part is that with within this master plan you can kind of see what the projects are first of all and second of all got we also have to remember that the modernization is 40% of the total cost and so I I think that's one thing for me

that I definitely want to take advantage of if I'm going to get the other half from somewhere what and I don't mean to oversimplify but most most people want to know if I go in my kids classroom you know you're sitting in the parent seat if I go in my kids classroom what will I see have changed from the measurem example they

saw basically everything change it does not mean the roofs weren't done because they were also and the air conditioners were replaced and all that but you don't go on the roof but it that's that's there's no reason to put new furniture under a leaky roof so that's done as I like a comment I know we're working with the site principles but it is very

crucial as mentioned the needs of that campus I met first then and when we went around three times we had all we had great comments from the whole Community yeah and there will be more as the projects continue to develop this is the beginning of not the end just a quick question um it's great to here and it's great to see the master

plan but are the board members planning on visiting site through the process isn't there an inherit savings design and construction cost by just touching a campus once by touching a campus once uh the the inherent savings is in keeping the contractor on the site for a short a time as period uh is possible time is money in

construction so the best way to reduce construction cost is to shorten the duration and just and concentrate the work we renovated seven we called them the next seven back then uh internal working title um in 69 days seven whole elementary schools are renovated U I don't remember the year7 2007 that was an undertaking but it saved money yeah

think about breaking the projects out if you're going to do three projects in one school would it be better to do them all at the same time generally no so if you have a project like we're going to renovate the inside of the English Wing at at pick a school uh Iowa and should I also build the science building at the

same time generally no those are different types of contractors typically the kinds of contractors who bid the renovation recarpet that sort of thing are different types of contractors than do the other and so as a general rule and I'm using generalizations this will all be planned out uh generally not really not really there're different types of Builders who do different types

of construction what is thetimeline to conduct the needs assessment prioritize which what are the needs how would you define a needs uh to see what is most crucial for us to do first uh you mean at a specific campus I don't understand the question District wide this is the thes this is the uh the what needs to be done first

yeah well for example if there let's take in the rain for example if there's a broken roof at a school how can we prioritize that over all you know other work that's being done oh well the district has a maintenance program that they run in that they do if you're just chasing puddles all the time you'll never get anywhere the district has

Martin I keep pointing to Martin and Greg you know they have a program that they're chasing the work order puddles what this is is the theme of The Heavy what I call the heavy lifting at the school so there are things that need to be done at all these schools and it's in the master one the um so but but I do

not recommend just going around and fixing things that are broken because some of those things you're going to rip them up again in another six months that thing isn't even going to be there so some things it's not terrible you put a bandaid on because you know by this implementation plan you're coming back and taking that whole thing out so don't

invest a ton of money on fixing something that you're about to replace so uh needs assessment means a lot of that's what I asked it means a lot of different things to different people on the projects we're working on that needs assessment is going on right now we're doing it right now yeah yeah on those we're not doing A needs assessment on a

project like the gentleman said over there that won't be done till you're 80 it's like what's the point board members do you have any other questions or comments go home your homework you've gotten a great start I appreciate you getting my sense of humor and so just so that no one's confused that that one up there on top we didn't

put that right very generally what I do is I take a cell phone picture of I'm going to do that when you're done was this helpful it was very helpful thank thank you for your well thank you Jim thank you for the presentation I think you helped the board um carve a journey ahead so we thank you thank you and for the audience

members thank you for participating and for being here appreciate it okay so with that that conclud board study session and now at