Board of Education — June 24, 2025

The regular meeting of the governing board of education is called to order by myself, Dr. Melinda Anderson at 4:02 p.m. on Tuesday, June 24th at the district office conference center. Are there any requests for changes to the agenda? and I'll answer yes first because I need to make some corrections. Um, one, I have a motion to adopt a special rule

of order for this meeting only, and that would be amending the current parliamentary procedure regarding board member debate. For the duration of this meeting, each board member shall be limited to one opportunity to speak per agenda item for no more than two minutes with the exception of information and action items number one. But I'm doing this due to the length um and complexity

of the agenda for this meeting. So that would not include um information and action item one. I have a second. Okay. I have a question with that. Is there opportunity within the moment to possibly if needed ask for 30 seconds or a shorter period of time than twice for two minutes? Because I understand what you're saying in the time parameters,

but should that arise? I think that we should be um fluid with this because I've asked um Mr. Burm when he sat down like I'm going to make this um motion but we need to be fluid in case an item needs more time. Right. So what we what we will do is we will make a special rule of order assuming that there's two

minutes once with the exception of action and information item one. But any other thing then we'll just get board consensus to um extend the discussion. Okay, that's fine. Is that okay? Okay. Do um anyone opposed then? Okay. Should we call roll on that? I think we need to because it needs a two um a two-thirds vote. Can you give a brief summary once

more just so we're all on the same page? I move to adopt a special rule of order for this meeting only amending the current parliamentary procedure regarding board member debate. For the duration of this meeting, each board member shall be limited to one opportunity to speak per agenda item for no more than two minutes with the exception of information item one and

action item one due to the length and complexity of the agenda. And I just uh Mr. Schwarz seconded it and I just explained to um Mrs. Wema that we should be fluid on this in case we do need more discussion on items then we would just look for board consensus and continue discussion. But for all of the regular

um board business I think we should as much as possible limit it to one um time for two minutes. I guess my concern would be it's not really debate then really you're allowing for a two-minut statement and no debate, right? Because if there's not even a 30-cond or one minute exchange after that, that's what you're asking for. We

could do one minute twice. I think two minutes first is important because that gives some good time for explanation of whatever the item is. So, I'd like to stick with that. Dr. Kamroski, do you have an opinion? I'm with Mrs. Worsma because we have heavy lifting items and I don't want to be rushed as a trustee speaking to them. One minute is really

rushed. So, two minutes. Okay. Um, I think just because it's is it's it has to be carefully done, I'm I'm going to remove that motion. Um, I don't want to be caught like impeding speech and debate on these issues. I think we could get in trouble with that. So the next thing is um I I move to reco relocate action item one

for tonight to right after information item one so we can take action after information and then the attorney can be dismissed early. Do I have a second? Second. Do I have anyone that opposes? Okay. So that motion to move to relocate action item one to right after information item one passes unanimously. The next is I move to amend consent item

number 155 59. It was um it needs to be submitted by ESS and remove the name Nicole Lash. It was just submitted wrong. Do I have a second? Does anyone oppose? Okay. Okay. So, we're going to make that correction unanimously. Um, I move action item 35C. I move uh I move to relocate action item 35C. That's the AR on accommodation. And I

want to move that to information and reports per legal counsel request. Do I have a second? Second. Does anyone oppose moving the AR 35 action item 35 C? Just brief question. Will legal be addressing it? Is that the reason for the move? Um, they're not going to address it tonight, but when I move it to information, then I'll spend two minutes

and just give a brief explanation as to why they wanted it moved to information. Okay. So, is that okay? Does anyone oppose moving that to information? Okay. Then that motion passes passes. Um we had we're also going to take um first let's make all the changes to the agenda and then by request of cabinet if you want to pull anything from consent we'll

do that now because they want time to kind of look at those items a in advance. I have two two items. Okay. So is this consent or agenda? This is consent. Okay. Let me do agenda and then I'll go right next to you. Okay. Any Okay. Changes to the agenda. You were going to move There we go. Okay. Um I would like to

pull um under um it's action. Yeah, it's number 35 in action. Um there's a policy proposal 50 20.01 I believe and I would like to pull that from the agenda. Okay. Do I have a a second. It's the last one. It's 35. What is it? I I think it's 5020.01. 30. Um, under parental notification 35I. And you're going to pull that. Pull

that. Yep. Um, just have it removed. Have it removed. Okay. And do I have a second? Second. Does anyone oppose? All right. So, that item is pulled. um unanimously. Okay. The Did you have any other changes to the agenda, Mr. Schwarz? No. Okay. Mrs. Wema, I'll start with you. You said you had some consent items you wanted to pull. Yes. So, the

two items Yes, the two items are number six and number 61. And then we'll just we'll address those when we get to consent. So, six. I also wanted to change to the or noted in the minutes and 61. What number is that? Smoke 61. Um, you wanted to pull the minutes, Dr. Kamaskki. No. Uh, Len, if you could do

me a huge favor, will you pull up in information reports the four resolutions, please? Are you going to pull those right now? No, just a just a point of clarity, but I got to figure out which one it is. It it's information reports item number four. I know we reversed the order. A, B, and C are constitution, and

D is um resolutions. Resolutions. It's title nine. If you could scroll down just for a second on the uh attachments. Okay, one of these. I'd like my name removed. I never gave permission and I've never even worked with anybody on these on any four and I might I might not disagree with the content but this is the second time my name was added

without my consent. Okay. Um so I want that um noted in the minutes as well. Okay. So we'll be taking that off. Um and then we'll just be more careful. In fact, maybe what I'll do is send um an email to you. I'll have Len send you an email just to verify that we don't put your name on that again um on other

things again. Um so any other changes or um consent items are so which ones were your name on that you uh the constitution. Okay. Okay. That's Mr. Barham. Gotcha. Yeah. So on you talk about Okay. Yeah. We're not doing it on purpose. We're I and I'm going to make sure that we uh confirm before we post that that we're not making these

mistakes over and over. Okay. Mr. On consent, please pull number eight and number 54. Eight. We all turn a 100 pages. Um, Mr. Schwarz, did you want to pull any consent items? No, I'm not pulling any consent items. Dr. Kamroski, did you want to pull any consent items? Okay. Yeah. All right. I move to approve the agenda.

Do I have a second? Second. Is there anyone that opposes? Okay. The agenda is approved unanimously. We have one public comment for close session items in accordance with government code section 54957.7. The board will meet in close session to consider the items listed in section E. The governing board welcomes public comments. This is the time for clo close

session public comments. Is it on now? Hi. Um, I wanted to just give some comments because I know you're going to be going in and discussing the CRT lawsuit and um, in particular, I wanted to talk to Dr. Kamaskki and and to Jen Wesma about what this CRT policy meant for us and for our community. And I know a lot

of people are talking about how this was, you know, such a such a loss, such a loss. But in so many ways, this really was a win for you. The policy became national news. It It really did. It sparked debate. It told a story about what parents wanted in their schools. This message really landed with a lot of people. And

I know like the narrative was well it divided our community but do you guys remember last summer this room was filled with our community. It sparked a conversation with us. I I I know that's not how we're thinking about this, but in a lot of ways, it it sort of brought our community together to have a conversation that we didn't have before.

The courts have frozen this. You can't enforce it. You can't expand on it. And I do believe that there's smarter fights ahead of us. Fights that we can win. fights that we should be putting our resources on. You've got parents asking about books. You have parents asking about discipline. You have parents asking about policies that are infringing on their rights.

They have real concerns that we could be tackling right now instead of spending money on the courtrooms. Even people who supported this resolution are asking you right now, why are we doing this? It seems like this is being a distraction. When is it about protecting the kids and more about optics? Because that's what it's starting to look like.

Dropping this case doesn't mean that you're stopping your message. Your message was really loud and clear. Sometimes the strongest move you can make is not doubling down. It's about knowing that you made your point and moving on from it. Thank you. All right. We'll now go into close session.

Yes. Kamaroski. Yes. Barham. Yes. Anderson. Yes. It was moved and sec. It was moved by Anderson and seconded by Schwarz. The motion is adopted unanimously. Um, action taken in close session must be reported to the public once closed session ends. Today's close session began at 400 p.m. The board of education took action on the following items. Mr.

Barham. Okay. It was moved by member Anderson and seconded by Mr. Um, Mrs. Wearsma to approve the compromise and release agreement for case 20250 40408. The motion to approve uh was adopted with a vote of 4 to one. Uh, with the following readouts. Schwarz, yes. Wema, yes. Uh, Kamaskki, yes. Anderson, yes. Barham, not present. It was moved by member Anderson and

seconded by member Schwarz to approve the compromise and release agreement for case EG and LG. The motion to approve was adopted with a vote of 4 to one. Um with all members voting yes except for myself because I was not present. It was moved by member Barham and seconded by member Schwarz to approve the settlement for case CVS W2309604.

The motion to approve was adopted with a vote of 5 to 0. It was moved by member Anderson and seconded by member Schwarz to resend the CRT resolution 2220 uh 2022 23-21. The motion to approve was adopted unanimously with a vote of five to zero. And then Dr. Comradeski. The board unanimously voted today in close session to rescend resolution to critical race

theory that would comply with the guidelines established by the California Court of Appeal and its recent ruling and other relevant law. That committee will continue to proceed as planned. The board respects the rule of law and is committed to enacting policies that reflect the values of the community. Thank you. Next we have student recognitions and announcements. Do we have any? I know

that TVA is not here today. CSEA. CSEA. Okay. Um, Okay. We're going to start with um information and reports. The board commissioned a third party investigation in response to a dispute involving two board members. An investigation report was prepared by a third-party investigator which was initiated after a board member believed the district was negligent in handling the complaint. The investigator

considered communication with a board member and legal counsel in the investigation. The board must take formal action to determine whether the complete investigation report should be disclosed to the two involved board members. If the report is to be disclosed, the board must also take action to determine whether the communications or information reported by legal counsel to the investigator

should be redacted or disclosed. Any disclosure of the report and the legal counsel's confidential statements therein will constitute a waiver of attorney client privilege. Any waiver of the attorney client privilege at this time will subject the report in its contents to future disclosure. So then I'm going to turn the time over to our legal counsel. Good afternoon everyone.

Good afternoon everyone. My name is Carrie McNell and I'm here to help you facilitate the conversation about this item and the information and then later the action item. I want to just remind everyone that the only issue presented on these two items is whether or not to wave the attorney client privilege to allow for the disclosure of this

complete report to um the two involved board members. Um, typically at the be at the beginning of such an item because we do have two involved board members, those two board members would recuse themselves from the conversation as well as the vote on the issue. So, at this time before we go any further, I did want to give the two involved board

members the opportunity to recuse themselves um and step out of the room for the conversation and discussion. just can I make a brief statement with that if it relates to the recusal and or the way yes yes it does um at this point having considered ethical and moral implications and acquiring advice from adviserss I myself am going to recuse

myself great and so with that then I just ask that you step out and when the board the rest of the board finishes the conversation. Um, we'll let you know. Uh, I was not prepared for this eventuality or possibility. There was no information given to me that I would be uh not part of the discussion and um

it's your choice. It's your choice. No, I'm not going to recuse myself. Okay. with um that what I do need to know from the remaining board members, the other three is if you feel comfortable proceeding with this um information item and ultimate um action on the issue of the waiver of the privilege even though u Mr. Schwarz has

not recused himself. So basically we have to give consensus on whether we want him to be here or to have him recused. Right? Is that what you're asking? I'm asking if you are comfortable proceeding with the matter with him electing not to recuse himself. And you said traditionally board members that are involved recuse themselves. It's historical practice. Um I can't

speak to historical practice here, but um generally when an individual is um has a personal interest in a decision of the board, they recuse themselves stepping out of the room for the discussion as well as the vote. With that said, I know Mr. Schwarz, you don't feel comfortable leaving cuz you felt put on the spot to not have to

decide this at the moment, but I still think you should recuse yourself. So, I do feel uncomfortable proceeding unless he recuses, but and see what the other two board members think. I think it's his choice. Yeah, I I think it's his choice. I I think we need to just proceed and and get the through this as a board. It's all it's just a matter

of getting through this. Okay. So, what I can do is I'll um present some information when the vote is taken. We can revisit just to see if um there's a change of heart on your part and then um proceed with the vote when we get there. Um, so the one thing that I want that I guess the the main thing that I want to share

with you all tonight is that you will be asked to take a vote on whether or not to wave the privilege and allow for the disclosure of the full investigation report to the two involved board members. The implication of waving the attorney client privilege is that the document at that point becomes um you know available and the the privilege is

waved for all time and so it's not something that you can pick and choose as to then who you would give the document to or who you would not give the document to. Um and so a waiver of the attorney client privilege on this document tonight would be forever. The other issue that you'll be um you know

having to consider is in the investigation report there are statements by board counsel that were made in his role as board counsel reflecting conversations that he had with other individuals. So those discrete statements within the report are also a second layer of attorney client privilege that um you have to consider whether or not to wave. And so

you actually have um the option of waving the report in its entirety including the statements by um that were given to the investigator by board counsel. You have the option to wave the privilege as to the report but redact those comments um made by board counsel or you have the option of not waving privilege and not disclosing the report

to the interested parties and retaining that as a as an attorney clientprivileged document. Can you clarify who the privilege is with? Is it the board or individual board members? Right. So the attorney client privilege in this case as it relates to the document of the investigation report is between the district and the attorney. And so in this case, my affirm as well as the the

the document, the the the comments within the document, those communications are again with the district, the board as a whole, and the attorney who gave those um gave that advice is that that's then being shared with the investigator. So, it's between the district and its attorneys. It's not between any individual and an attorney. Do you have any questions regarding the

privilege? We just taking this straight to vote. No, I'm waiting for uh questions or Oh, yeah. So, one of my questions is it seems awkward to have a board potentially release on redacted documents when we as a board haven't even seen them. We've only seen a summary. We have not seen redacted. So, I feel extremely uncomfortable considering this when I haven't seen

anything in in that regard that we're even voting on. So, can you speak to that and and is that common practice? Right. So the um the board has all had the opportunity and I believe that you all did take the opportunity to review an executive summary of the report. That executive summary contains the findings. That's the bulk of the

content of the report. Um, so I do believe that there has been the opportunity to see and and glean sufficient information to determine um whether or not to wave the privilege as to the whole report, right? But for lack of better words, we haven't seen the raw data for by which the summary report was, you know, formulated. that raw data could be

an immense amount of material or not and and it could include members of the cabinet or not or members of the public that we don't know about. So that's what I'm getting at. The raw data seems very concerning. I would have no ability to properly assess what I'm voting on until I see that raw data. Who's implicated in

on it? Because then it goes public. Can I ask a question? No. Well, hold on. I I still want her to speak though because this is important. Yeah. So, I I'm just want to clarify just so I'm not confused. I'm assuming that's what we're we're voting on right now is to release the raw data and determine whether or not board members should have

access to that. Right. The issue is whether or not the two involved board members would have access to that, as you call it, raw data. It's the summary of the investigative interviews, the summary of the documents that were reviewed. It's the the um the evidence if you will that was considered when reaching the conclusions that you have

reviewed. Um if the board um the remaining board members that is the uninvolved three board members do not feel comfortable making a decision on whether or not to release it to the other two board members without first reviewing that document. There could be a motion made to table the decision on the um waiver issue until the three remaining uninvolved board

members have had the opportunity to review the report and then come back together to decide whether or not to disclose to the involved board members. So why why weren't we given that opportunity in the first place? the the idea or the thought was that the the findings or the bulk of the and the significant piece of the report. And the

thought would be if the the findings were known that that would suffice for your determination because you know what the evidence shows. The evidence supports those findings. You know the findings but not the evidence that supports the findings. I don't know that. I only know my own interview. That's all I know. Right. But you know the you know how your interview

contributed to the findings and you know the findings. The findings are um the findings of fact and the conclusions. So, one question I had that I just discussed with um your firm and a couple other firms is um whether or not if, for example, Mr. Schwarz's attorney wants a copy of this um and we determine that this is

privileged, then his ability to obtain a copy going through the court process. So, we decide this is privilege. We're not releasing it to the other two board members. Um, that that could look like a long drawn out legal case that would end up with the a copy of the report in his attorney's hands anyway. So what are the implications of um if

it's not privileged and then the district has to go to court and and is it a district? That's a little confusion I have too is right now um the district is embringled and I'm feeling like um I'm being told a couple different things about their involvement. So what does it look like? You mean I want to make sure that I'm

understanding your question. So, if the board decides tonight that this is privileged and Mr. Schwarz's attorney wants a copy of this for him, um what does that look like for the district going ahead? Does that look like his attorney bringing um litigation or taking us to court to get copies of this? So I I and my firm represent the

district and I don't want to give a roadmap for how to bring litigation against the district. Um, right. But if the um if there was litigation over the status of uh the report being protected by the attorney client privilege, that could end up in court. And if a court decides that it is not covered by the attorney

client privilege, then as you said, the document would need to be released. Um, but that would be after um the conclusion of a court case. So, I have a couple questions. Why don't we just ask Mr. Schwarz? If this is privileged and the board decides to not release it, are you going to ask your lawyer to forcibly

release it? I'm not going to answer that. Okay. Okay. Then the second question is is can a governing board member require a lawyer to file litigation on the board itself of which he's a member? Dr. Woods, I'd like you to answer that as well or if anybody on this panel, but I'm directing it at you. Oh, I I would I

would defer to our attorney on that one. Okay. Say the question again. Can a can a governing can a sitting governing board member sue the district of which he's a governing board member of? because that's where this is going to be going if he in fact sues to get that documentation. And maybe I asked you in case Mrs. Lash

could familiarity with lawsuits. Okay. Right there. Um there are cases um in Southern California where governing board members have sued um the district of the board that they sit on. Again, I I don't want to give advice and create a roadmap for potential litigation. So, I am telling you that I have seen and um been involved in litigation where board

members have sued. Have you seen that in fact when they and thank you for that. Have you seen it to where if a governing board member sues the district of which the board member belongs, do they have to recuse themselves of operating in the capacity of being a governing board member? um they do not have to recuse themselves

from matters that are unrelated to their litigation. Maybe we can talk about some of the um motions and I can let you just um in transparency know my thought process here. Um there's a lot of litigation going on with our Yeah. If you guys are going to vote, I will walk out because I don't want to have to influence anyone

in how they vote. Okay. I I I'm just interested in listening in hearing what's going on. As I said, I wasn't prepared to be nothing in the agenda said that we would be not part of the discussion since I was the person involved. since I'm the one affected by the accusation and the investigation and and your question is is correct. If

I don't get it, do I want to get it? Well, I don't know. I have to talk to my attorney about that. But obviously, since I was the one accused in public, then I'm the one who wants to know. Okay. Point what's in there. Okay. Thank you. Thank you. So, so let me just let you know the direction that my thought

process is. Um, we do have a lot of attorney fees and there's a lot of litigation going on with the district right now. Those fees are adding up. Um, I spoke with Mr. Adams and I spoke with two other um, attorneys and the end result if Mr. Schwarz wants a copy of this for his attorney is very likely that he will get

a copy of this for his attorney. So my thought process what is and it still right now is if this if the inevitable is that Mr. Schwarz's attorney is going to get a copy of a full copy unredacted of this then why would we pay for four or five months of legal fees to end up at that point?

Now that's not a guarantee. But I would like to mitigate the cost of that. Um so then there's options as well to protect um I added and I asked you to look at it the alternative motion which would be a motion that the board wave attorney client privilege and authorize the release of the investigation report to the two involved board members. But

we're going to redact the identities of legal counsel, mediators, staff, consultants, and any other. So we can we anyone that somehow became embangled in this that we will redact all of those names so that the board can have or so that the two board members can have a copy of it but that anybody who was a witness or involved um

including legal counsel that their names be redacted. All right. Well, I'll just let you know how I'm voting. I'm going to vote for no redaction at all. It's a priv privileged document. I don't want the matter between two board members civily being released into the public airing the dirty laundry and including cabinet members. So if he doesn't recuse

himself, you three can vote however you're going to vote, but I'm going to vote no on anything being released. So I'm going to Are you okay if I make the alternative motion that we release it and then the then we can have a vote from us for So can I clarify before you do that? Yeah. So, we're going to you're

going to make the alternative motion that we wave attorney client privilege redacting the identities of everyone in the report except for the individuals at the Christmas tree. Is that what we're doing to write except for Except for the individuals at the Christmas tree there? Okay. So, let me read that again. So, can I ask a question? Are when you say

that you in the alternative motion are going to motion to wave the attorney client privilege as to the report or only or as to the report and the content of council's comments that's contained in the report? That motion was not council's comments as retained into the the report. I just wanted to make sure that like and again

I'm not an attorney, but I know that there are um other members of the public and um organizations that might be listed in this. And so I was hoping we could redact those names. I just want to make sure that we're clear that when you say the full release with the names of community members, so we'll redact staff

staff. I don't want like I don't want this to come back to staff. I don't want it to come back to community members. So I want those names redacted to pro protect those individuals because I don't think that they that are going to be voting understand that it's a waiver of the privilege as it relates to the

report. Yes. and the content of council's comments that's captured in the report. Yes, that's all. Yes. And then we'll redact all the names. Correct. Okay. So, I have a question for you, Dr. Anderson. I think this makes the board look bad collectively. So, can you andor Mr. Barham explain to me why you would want this the way you do to be

released to the public? Um, I feel like I just explained it that um, one that the likelihood of this being released to the public is very high if we go through the court process and that's going to cost the district tens of thousands of dollars for the end result being that it's released anyway. And so in me in my mind I'm I want it to

move forward as a board and the longer that that we don't the the more this is just going to be hanging over our heads. So it's sort of if it's going to be released anyway um why would we why would we pay the money to fight it and end up having to release it in the end? So well we don't know that Mr. Schwarz

is going to take that action. Yeah. So you're presupposing that he will. I don't accept um there is information I have that I have I I just can't talk about everything. So that's my feeling. That's all I can say is that's my feeling. Um and you'll have to go with your gut. I mean my feeling is is that this

investigation went further than just the accusations made against Mr. Schwarz in public, but the scope of the investigation by the person doing the accusing was increased by she asked for it in terms of the district's involvement. Okay. So, I feel like because of that, I mean, we're here to represent the district that the findings and the evidence to support

those findings should be released. I thank you both for clarifying. Um so to if there's no further questions, I will make the motion. Um I'm go I'm I'm going to use the alternative motion where the full report is released redacting the names and Mr. um Barham asked to um say everyone except for the members of the Christmas

tree picture. Okay. So, let me just read it. Motion that the board wave the attorney client privilege and authorize the release of the investigation report to two involved board members redacting the identities of legal counsel, mediators, staff, and consultants except for the um members of the Christmas tree picture. Do I have a second? Second, Len Schwarz. Yes.

Kamroski. No. Barham. Yes. Anderson. Yes. The motion passes 3 to one with um Mrs. Wearsma not being pre present. Okay. Um would someone like to go get her and bring her back? Thank you for your time. Thank you. We have the LCAP um and local indicators. Um Dr. Anderson, we actually don't necessarily have a presentation for this. Miss um Brown, our director of

assessment and accountability is available for questions, but as you'll recall at the last board meeting, we had her present very beautifully in six minutes the entire LCAP. So she's here with any additional questions that you may have. Otherwise, it'll be up for approval tonight. Okay. And there's also information in the Friday update that I think the board members will have access

to. Did anyone have questions regarding the LCAP? No. All right. The next would be um the first reading of the amended board policy 5127 graduation ceremonies and activities. And that is submitted by a lot of people. Okay. I'm going to ask Mr. Barham to um present this information. So um the great thing about this um amended motion was that it's something that I

love. We get together with principles, we get together with directors and we talk and we and teachers and we and we collaborate on on how we should proceed and and that is basically what we did here. um with this uh motion on graduation ceremonies and we all came to the conclusion that this is first and foremost an academic ceremony and that

the validictorian and saludiatoran uh should be given first rights of refusal in terms of giving a speech. Um and that is I mean that basically goes with um tradition. So they will uh they will be given an opportunity to speak. They don't have to. Um but in addition to that I think we came up with uh if additional to give we want the um

graduating class to be represented not just by um the validictorian and saludi and saludiatoran but people have different experiences that make impacts at graduation ceremonies and um so we want to give other students an opportunity to speak. So we we want to um make that process as objective as possible. So as a group we decided that um speeches would be submitted without

the person actually yeah that an anonymously that they're anonymously um put forward without a rehearsal and that the best speeches win and the the people who were judging the speeches don't know who those kids are. So we felt that that was the most objective way to do it, taking the subjectivity out of it and we agreed and we wrote this policy in one

hour and it was it worked very very well. So I'm really pleased with uh with everybody's input. The uh there were some assistant principles from some of the high schools, a principal, our director um and it went it went really really well. So I'm hoping that we can support this Okay. So, we'll consider this a first read. Did you have any questions about

the um graduation policy? So, I do um not so much a question. The first thing I want to do is thank Joseph for his work in this arena because I know he was troubleshooting things behind the scenes with a family. Um brought this suggestion to Gary. So, I just want to thank him. Obviously, a lot of voices

have spoken into this and I think it's really important. I think it's a great thing if you've got diversity of thought. Um, but but I know that he was involved from the initiation. Um, the one thing I want to point out that I would love to add in this and for the board to consider is that California

policy dictates that students must fill out the FAFSA or opt out. Um, what must be noted is that California Ed Code states that neither filling out the FAFSA or the opt out form limits or penalizes them from fully participating in the graduation ceremony. There have been moments because I've been um talked to from constituents about this that

they feel like there was mixed messaging in what they were receiving with this. So, I want to be sure that when we talk to parents that there's not a situation where students have been pressured with verbiage or made to worry about their access or involvement in a ceremony because we do talk about senior privileges. I think that's appropriate

based on academics, attendance, all of that is good. I just want to be sure that counselors don't always don't don't ever ask a student to check the box for a parent and that that's never held over their head um so that they feel like they're kind of manipulated into the process. It's a good thing if they want

FAFSA. It opens up a portal, but some families don't want that and I just don't want them to feel like there's that caveat that says graduation is contingent upon that, if that makes sense. So, I can submit this in an email. Um, I know this is a first read, so perhaps this is something we can talk about and and bring back.

Uh, what did you want added to it? I just want to be sure that this reads so that a student and their family understand that if they choose not to fill out the FAFSA and to opt out or opt out that it doesn't place a contingency upon them participating in the graduation ceremony because there have been parents that have been told or

suggested that that's a problem and that it could hold up them walking. So, I just want clarification for families. I agree. So, um I understand cuz I do have a um community member who somehow either didn't get an extra ticket or something to graduation because they didn't fill out the FAFSA. I can't remember what it was. So, we can look at um that

language. It's not related to the speakers, but I feel like if you want to discuss it with me, maybe a amending it and um working with Dr. Woods or a cabinet member to look into that FAFSA issue. Could we do that? Can we can we set a meeting for that? Okay. It could fit in that second paragraph. So, we

could work on that. Yeah. Yeah. I I can see. So, we were just focused on the speakers on this one, but it it is the whole uh you're right, we're we're amending the uh graduation policy. So, um we'll keep this one as a first read and then we'll discuss that in the future because I I understand that.

Right. And I just like to clarify that there is a law actually surrounding um the completion of the FAPS of the FAFSA or actually completing an opt out. And I would also like to share Miss Wesma if you have um that situation with a family where that has been the case. Um perhaps when we meet you can share with me that

information because we're not privy to any of that. I will and they handled it that the family was able to work through it with a counselor. So they got it worked out and I do know ed code dictates that. So, um it's just really important that they know it doesn't affect the act of actually graduating if they choose one of those.

Okay. But this is going to go someplace else, not here necessarily, right? No. So, so let's do this. Let's I mean, I understand what she's saying. I just don't think it fits. Yeah. Yeah. No, hers is FAFSA. So, we will meet um Dr. Woods, it's okay. We can have Len set up a meeting with um Mrs. and we'll make sure that that is in

policy because I think we can have language and make sure that we're compliant with ed code law. So, let's do that and then we'll keep this as a first read. It it came up because the verbiage was it would be a privilege um you know and I don't want that item to be tied to. Okay. We'll make sure that it's not

I I'm not in disagreement with you on that item. Okay. The next I had something to add. Uh yeah, you had I didn't get to speak. Yeah. So, I think this is a win with the Val and the Sal being able to speak and site admin still being able to properly vet the three additional speakers. So, I like it. Um,

my concern is where's David Schlottman's name? Now, I I'm not certain that they have a vow in the S Ranch Vista High School, but why not? Just saying. We got three principles. I went to his graduation. They they do He did vet speakers. We had one on stage. What about that? I can answer that. we accidentally there was no intention to

leave out any of the principles or high schools that um I set up a meeting because the principles reached out with concerns with the original policy that I had on the last meeting. Um so that was not intentional to not invite David. But this applies to all four high schools, correct? Well, this is for Dr. Woods now. Does this apply to all four high

schools if Mr. Schlottman wanted to? Yeah, we need to get his input for sure. Yeah. So, can I give you direction to send this to him for review before the next board meeting? Can I get consensus? Um, does is everyone okay if we send this to Yeah. Okay. You can't forget Ranch Vista High School. That's all I'm

saying. Okay. Thank you. Um, so the next one is information item number four. And I was going to look for board consensus. Oh, we have two public comments. Thank you, Len. Keep track of me. So, um, two public comments on resolution or on resolutions. Oops. First up is David Sola followed by Sarah Bell. Good evening. I want to begin by saying

that I do believe there should be fairness in school athletics. An advantage even at no fault of the child is still an advantage. I believe biological boys should not compete against biological girls in competitive sports. That's a complex issue and it deserves thoughtful, respectful conversation. But I also believe we cannot and must not use that belief as a

license to marginalize, erase or attack transgender youth. And that's what this Title 9 resolution introduced during Pride Month appears designed to do. Let's be clear, Title 9 is a civil rights law, not a political tool. It was enacted to ensure that no person, not just girls, and not just those who fit into narrow gender expectations, is excluded from educational opportunity on

the basis of sex. Over time, that protection has been recognized as inclusive of LGBTQ plus students, particularly after the landmark Supreme Court ruling in Bosto versus Clayton County in 2020, which held that discrimination on the basis of gender identity or sexual orientation is discrimination because of sex. While Bosto dealt with employment under Title 7, it reasoning has been cited by

multiple federal courts and the US Department of Education in applying the Title 9 protections to transgender students as well. That legal interpretation affirms that transgender youth are protected under the very law being invoked in this resolution by presenting this resolution. How much more funding are you opening up for girls sports? How many more coaches? How many more road games will the

district provide transportation for? The answer is zero. Once again, you prefer to be performative and can't offer a single tangible thing for our students. If this board truly cared about fairness and girls sports, we'd be addressing the real issues. underfunded programs, unequal facilities, and lack of investment in athletic opportunities for young women. Instead, we're being asked to support a resolution that seems less

about protecting anyone and more about rebranding June, a month-long recognized as Pride Month, into a culture war statement. Let me be very clear. We don't need to choose between fairness and competition and compassion for transgender youth. We can do both. But what we cannot do is weaponize Title 9 to score political points at the expense of vulnerable students. That is

not the spirit of Title 9 and it is not what our students deserve from those entrusted with their education. [Applause] Thank you. Sarah Bell. Good evening. My name is Sarah Bell. I'm a parent in the district. Um I want to comment on two of the resolutions. Um, briefly the Constitution Week resolution. I absolutely support civic education involvement. I'm here tonight

and I agree that the US Constitution is vital for engaged citizenship. But this resolution seems more symbolic than substantive. Um, if we want to foster civic awareness with our students, we need to expand real life opportunities for these students to think critically, debate respectfully, and learn from history. uh not just a performative proclamation. It's not that I don't support this resolution, but I'd

like to see more important topics on the agenda, such as funding for athletics, transportation, maintaining special needs staff. Um, but that brings me to the more serious concern I have with the proposed Title 9 resolution. This resolution completely cherrypicks and misrepresents the actual purpose of Title 9, which was designed to protect students from sex-based discrimination. It was not intended to exclude

transgender or gender non-conforming youth. So, by framing gender identity as the threat to safety and privacy, the resolution not only misleads the public, but it contradicts California law, and we definitely don't need to do any more of that in our district. More importantly, it sends a chilling message to our students that are already vulnerable. This isn't about protecting

girls. It's about using the language of the protection to push a narrow political agenda that has no place in a school district. If our board truly cares about student safety and success, we must center and focus on compassion for our students, the legality and inclusion and not lead with fear and ideologies. I strongly urge our board to reject this

resolution and focus instead on policies that in serve all of our students with dignity and respect. Thank you. Just a sec. Donna, you wrote resolution is you wanted to talk about this topic. You wrote under consent. Okay. One more public comment. Sorry. The point I'd like to make about this resolution is it's an opportunity to be on the right side of history and to

comply with the federal guidelines and the Department of Justice. There's a greater threat of litigation if we don't comply. And we've seen evidence of that around the country. States act in a discriminatory sovereign manner while refusing to uphold Title 9 and protecting women. I agree with former Major Jonathan Ingram who says, "As someone blessed with a family full

of strong, inspiring women, four sisters, two daughters, nieces, two granddaughters, and my wonderful wife, I have witnessed the transformative power of sports and young women's lives. Whether on the field as a coach or in the stands as a proud parent, I have seen how sports builds confidence, teaches teamwork, and offers invaluable opportunities for growth. My concern centers on participation of biological

males in girls and women's sports. This is not a matter of exclusion or judgment, but of fairness. Decades of scientific research have lived and experienced confirm that biological differences can create an uneven playing field even with the best intentions. I believe that maintaining separate categories for boys and girls is essential to ensuring that our daughters and granddaughters have

the same opportunity to compete, excel, and thrive as previous generations. I want to be clear. My stance is rooted in respect for all individuals. Every student deserves dignity, compassion, and the chance to participate in sports. At the same time, we must protect the integrity of girls in women's athletics. This is not about denying anyone's identity or worth. It is about

preserving the fairness and opportunities that so many young women have worked hard to achieve. I know this is a sensitive and complex issue and I appreciate the thoughtful consideration that you are giving it. My hope is that as a community that we can come together to support all students while ensuring that girls and women's sports remain a

place where female athletes can shine. Thank you for your time and your commitment to our students. Sincerely, Jonathan Ingram, former council member and mayor, city of Mya. Um, I am going to before we get into this, I'm going to ask for consensus on a couple things. Mrs. Wear's, um, I'm not going to make a motion because this is

an information item, but I want to propose that the constitution um, resolution be postponed until July. And the reasoning for that is um I do believe this is a collaborative community um effort involving other local school boards, some of our neighbors and some members of the public. And at this time I've been told it's not quite ready for

submission and that there's a test that they would also like to submit. Um um so Dr. Woods, first I wanted to let um Mrs. Veles know that there is a test that that community members have been working on would like to submit along with this resolution. Um uh just so they're aware that that would they would like the board to consider

that. Um and the next thing is I'm going to just ask for board consensus to postpone this one month until all the information has been gathered. So just a brief question on that. um I know any of the ARS or information like that on the back end. For example, I know um we've had someone mention here on the board that they'd like the

teachers to put it together. Um I think a lot of the pieces are here tonight. So I wouldn't mind moving forward with the short discussion understanding it can continue to be collaborative. I think that's a great thing. And we have talked to our neighbors to the north with Mya. So I'm really excited about this and really it came about as a result of Mr.

Schwarz mentioning that he wanted the constitution app on the iPad and together here on the deis I kind of threw out let's let's do a constitution week something where we can really advocate uh for our students to learn and pull in the teachers and um do what we need to do to make this districtwide. So I guess we could push it off but I

don't think the test would make or break that. I think there's many things that we can speak into this moving forward. So, I'm going to look for consensus just because I did have um community members and neighboring boards reach out for a little more time. Can we um Okay, Mr. Barn would like to speak and then Mr. No, I mean I I would like to

know more about what is going to go on during the week, but in terms of the constitution test which I proposed um I don't think constitution week will have that much impact on the test because the teachers are going to have to teach the standards of the constitution and that would not happen. I think constitute the constitution week

that you're proposing is in September, right? It is in September. Okay. So, they they won't even be there yet. I mean, they're not going to be there probably, and correct me if I'm wrong, uh go into the constit they won't be there till probably November. So, would you agree? I would I would agree. And there's particular grade levels based on

the California state standards that are covered um already cover very thoroughly the constitution as well. Right. So, I don't think I don't think the test would impact constitution week. whatever is planned that week. I'm if you want to save additional conversation for July, I'm not a question. I would like to know what's I would like to know what is

entailed in that and and I think Maretta has more in mind than we do. So, I would like to wait to see what really is transpiring and what that entails. What's funny is a trustee heard us talk about it and that's when the idea came and then we had discussions. So, it's a great thing that we can work with them.

Yes. And I like the collaboration between school districts because that's really where we're going with this. And I was just asking if we could just get a little more time and fine. You could put it on next with Sure. Okay. Okay. Thank you. So we do have three people. I just wanted to add um uh for those who don't

know it's already in ED code. It's 37221A the anniversary of the adoption of the constitution on or near which date schools shall include exercises and instruction in the purpose, meaning and importance of the constitution. This is nothing new. We're just trying to expand on uh the idea and you know I think the best time would be to teach it to uh

celebrate it when we're actually teaching it. So I I agree with you Emil that that's a good idea to move it to uh when the when it's part of the curriculum and I and I'm not necessarily saying that because I think the constitution was adopted in September and that's why isn't that correct? I think it is and that's why we're having

Constitution Week in September, but it doesn't necessarily align with when we're going to teach in the eighth grade the standards of the Constitution so so that they're able to take what we want them to take. We want them to take a Constitution test in the eighth grade. Did you read the statement by Barack Obama? I thought that was pretty pretty

awesome to see the celebration of the week and why it could be significant to recognize it that week. But maybe it's just a few activities and it's not the whole week all day. But I just thought as a district it would be awesome. So yeah. So let's just give it a little more time dialed in a little tighter. Is

that okay? Thank you. Like to make a brief statement. Yes, please. I'm in support of the board doing this so it comes back in a more robust fashion. I like the collaboration between different school boards as well. Yeah. Thanks. So Mrs. Wever know you've got the helm on the rest. Okay. So back to title nine. Many of you probably know yesterday.

This is tough. Yeah. I want to look for consensus before we go into this. Um, didn't we gather that earlier? It was two minutes and I just have a brief statement. Okay. Um, to make and then whatever we need to do to keep it short. That's what we talked about at the approval. Yeah. I'm I'm I'm treating

these as two separate items, right? So, I wasn't going to limit your time. Um, so I want to look, this is really, this is a tough one and you'll get to respond. Um, but I want to look for consensus to um, postpone indefinitely item 4 A. And the reason I want to do that is um, I want to pull this item off our agenda.

And it's not because I don't support women's rights or safe spaces. I actually I absolutely do. Um I've been fighting for them since the late 90s when I applied to dental school. At the time there were over 600 applicants at my university and only two of us were women. Um I didn't get a lot of support back then but I pushed away forward

anyway. I consider myself a feminist. I have a degree in human biology and I believe in the scientific definition of what it means to be a woman. I also support women who are leading the charge like I don't know if anyone knows Kelly Jean Keen Mchell. She's also known as Posie Parker, not to be confused with Parker Posie. Um and groups like

Standing for Women and Save Women's Sports. My concern is this resolution has no legal weight. It doesn't change policy. It doesn't protect students. It just opens the district up for unnecessary legal risk. I think we need to stay focused on real solutions. And then I let me be clear. We're not here for fluff, feel-good statements, or political grandstanding. We're not

passing re resolutions just for the shits and giggles. We're here to solve real problems with real and lawful solutions that actually make a difference. That's what our community deserves and that's what I feel like I'm delivering. That's why I brought forward a religious and mental health accommodation policy. It protects students privacies, student privacy, girls privacy inspired by my own

daughter and my granddaughter while also following California law. I don't believe this should be about headlines but about real protections for girls. So I I don't want us to do another resolution that may cost us potentially millions of dollars in litigation. So, I can appreciate your statement, but we did approve the agenda as an information item and I brought it

forward. So, respecting what you said, you've got to allow for me to read through this in addition to that. So, I'm going to go ahead and read it and then we'll take the vote board consensus to allow it to stay on. Okay. Thank you. Well, and I'm going to make a comment as well. Would you like to make

it now or Yeah. Well, did did you get consensus that at least three board members do not want this on indefinitely? Is that what you're I asked and I didn't get it. Steve said he wants to leave this on for discussion. I'm looking for disc for the problem is you're doing this backwards. You've got to allow for discussion first and the

person who for consensus to remove it and that's the reason I want but that would come at the approval of the agenda at the beginning. That's all I'm saying. So you've got to let me read through this then you can absolutely okay. Let's give you um information item is 3 minutes. Okay. Thank you. So yesterday was the 53rd anniversary of

Title 9 and on June 2nd the Department of Justice via Harit Dylan sent a letter to all districts with CIF members and political subdivision subdivisions of the state of California to remove section 300D in CIF bylaws and to disallow men and women competing together in violation of the equal protection clause to avoid legal liability and UNC unconstitutional sex

discrimination. I'm asking us to comply with federal guidelines. Federal laws have always been traditionally a higher jurisdiction. And the fact is states don't have lawful sovereign rights to discriminate or to engage in bigotry. It is important as local elected officials to make a statement to CIF, our state legislators, and the Department of Justice in addition to the entire TVUSD

district as to where we stand. And it does begin with this resolution. And as a constituent pointed out, we can watch what's happening in the country and choose to be on the right side of it, choose to protect our young women. And we know federally with title nine, it's a big deal for states not to be complying. So because Har wrote this

letter, I wanted to ensure we weren't going to lose possible funding in the future or face fines. What they're asking for is for a district to certify that they have looked at this and they understand exactly what's being communicated. And we can do that without breaking a law and moving forward uh in a less than measured way. So that's why

this is so important. And we do have um Tony DeMarco who is part of our council team who has done this for other districts. We have our neighbors Maretta, we have Chino, there are others who have taken a stand and he knows exactly how to certify it um properly by law and yet taking the principled stand that we need to. And that's why this

resolution is here tonight. I agree with Mrs. Whisma wholeheartedly and I also want to shout out to Jonathan Ingram. I loved your um three-minut speech that Mrs. Stump read out and I stand behind that as well. I see this as a symbolic stance that other school districts are taking to put pressure on the assembly and the senate to put

pressure on CIF. So when you say m Dr. Anderson about possibly being sued, um we can reverse that and say what about the state of California and CIF being sued as well. So the lawfare can go both ways, but the symbolic stance is just that. It's a symbolic stance and collectively from the ground up when we represent the values of the parents of

our community and if they're traditional family values, most of the community in Tmacula don't value gender identity being inserted into girls sports. They value biological girls not participating with biological boys or biological especially biological boys competing in biological girls sports. It's a it's an issue of safety and fairness and even parental rights. though when you have this collective

scan uh stand with school boards around Southern California and even you know the rest of California it puts pressure to change laws at the assembly level and at the Senate level so it can change California ed code so I stand in direct contradiction or direct opposition to what CIF is standing for based upon the federal stance of what Mrs. Wormo just

read out with Army Dylan and that is a symbolic stance and quite honestly Jonathan Ingam's right. This is your chance to stand on the right side of history. So that's the way I see this and it also reduces social and political activism which we are suffering from dearly in this state. So I think it's I I just I think it's a

poor maneuver on your part to uh suspend this indefinitely. Mr. Schwarz. Uh, yeah. I I would just like to uh take issue with part of this resolution um uh it quotes an executive order. Um an executive order is not law. Everyone knows an executive order is not law. An executive order is a directive to federal agencies, not law. In other words, if this law, if

if the person who is making the statement wants it to be law, it has to go through Congress and get approved the way a bill gets to be a law. So, executive actions are not law. And uh that at least that part of this whole resolution should be removed. And I think the whole resolution puts us on dangerous

territory. Right, Mr. Barham? So, we voted as a board 50-0 to save girls sports. We voted for fairness and equal opportunity um just a few months ago and I put it on my social media yesterday. I support Title N. However, we're getting ourselves in trouble with these resolutions and you you're going to find out about it in the public very soon. Okay? We

can't really talk about it by voting for resolutions. Um I'm going to be very careful about how I proceed with resolutions on this board. I can have my personal feelings, but I'm not going to put the school district at risk or in legal jeopardy um for um things that are very unclear. I mean, this this resolution is unclear and I

think we need to be very careful. Um and I'm going to speak to this further as we go on in this meeting. Um but personally, I support fairness in girls sports. We voted I mean by by voting five to zero to save girls sports. We kind of voted in support of Title Nine, but I I'm like I

said in the future I'm going to be very careful um in terms of what resolutions I support because I want them to have uh outcomes for students like Constitution week. I mean that that has some outcomes for students. Yeah. Or the accommodation policy. Exactly. So that's my take on this. I wanted to ask Mrs. Beersman a question. Um so the certification that

the other school boards have done to Can you clarify that was done just to certify that they are compliant by Mr. DeMarco and that's different than the resolution. The letter, it is my understanding, came about as a result of passing the resolution and deciding to comply with the letter from the Department of Justice and specifically the Civil Rights Office that they were

taking care of things as asked federally. So, he was able to craft something that was lawful that explained what the board was doing so that uh Har Dylan wasn't going unanswered. So he knew how to cover the bases and take care of it. In other words, can you look into that further and bring us more information on that? I I can send that

to you. Okay. Um that was that was my question because um again I I'm I used your resolution. I just turned it into a personal resolution right now. Um we we did vote 50 to um save girls sports and we also unfortunately voted 50 today in close session that was read out read out to rescend a previous resolution. So

it's not that I oppose what title N and the definition of a a woman are. Like I said I'm going to make a lot of enemies by some of the feminist names that I wrote read out tonight. Um it's just that I I do not want to um put the the district in legal jeopardy when we can take action by making policies that

will protect girls privacy and space safe spaces. And we did that. We we passed a policy that gives girls privacy. Um and we'll speak on that later on. But um and just to clarify that previous vote that we took was to support a bill that was up in the assembly. So that was different from this and that vote had nothing to do

with um Harit Dylan and her office, right? Which is why some districts brought this forward to be sure that they're looking at federal guidelines. But I understand what I just want to clarify that I I am on the same page as um saving girls sports um protecting girls safe spaces. I don't think that people should be forced to undress in

front of other people. Um, and sometimes that's what it feels like to girls that that they're being forced. So, um, I just am going to let you know that I won't support the resolution. Okay. Thank you. Um, any other comment? Um, actually, for the record, let's let's do take action just so there's a vote in the minutes. I

think that that would be good, Len. If if we could do that, I think it would be important. Um, yes. I'd like to move that we go ahead and pass this resolution, recognize Title 9, and comply with federal guidelines. I second. Lenny, please call roll. Schwarz, no. Weisma, yes. Kamaroski, yes. Barham, no. Anderson, no. And just as a

followup, you'll get back to us on the certification. Okay. Thank you. That's it for information items or action items. What are we on? Information items. We're going to go to the consent. Okay, we have Rusty. That was fast. Um I'm just I wanted to speak about the uh the uh idea of putting wellness centers in in the schools and and I want

to tell you to um that I'm against that idea basically because uh is it it's o is it 061? Yeah, it final consent item. That's why I was surprised because you had here so quick. Do you want me to do this later? I think you should be able to start over. It was It's a consent item. Okay. So um my objections to the idea of

the wellness centers being placed on campus are three-fold. One is the um is the financial aspect of it in the uh in this proposed contract um under um under the uh proposed priority funding activity 2.4. It says building, modifying, furnishing, or preparing physical spaces to create rooms for on-site provision of behavioral health care services. I don't know of any

schools that have a whole whole bunch of extra rooms just sitting around empty to be able to use those. So, I'm thinking that would they would have to be built. Um on the next one 2.5 it says purchasing supplies, technology or tools and increase access to behavioral self health services eg buying iPads so students can access virtual services while at school buying

books behavioral health again money buying 2.7 covering travel costs for providers and employees to participate in relevant training opportunities including transportation lodging and food. Um down on the next one under domain three for 3.2 it says recruiting, hiring, onboarding, supporting salaries for medical administrative assistance or other employees focused on maintaining and transmitting data. And then it says

note grants provide an opportunity for one-time funding to potentially expand the workforce salaries for new employees and that u their their salaries may be able to be s may be able to be sustained through ongoing fee reimbursement. So, we're talking about money after money after money here. And uh if you've had any experience with grants, you'll know that even though they may provide

initially for the salaries of people, most of the time they're graduated. So, a grant may go over five years, they may provide the salaries for two years, year three is 75%, year four 50%, and then on down after that, then where does the money come from? you have to go back to the public and ask them for money that

you didn't ask them for in the first place or you have to downsize, right? So um that's one of and then also the uh the fact that this dealing with money stuff there are so many ambiguities in this contract when it says that um um recruiting hiring supporting salary medical administrative assistance or other employees focused on maintaining and transmitting. So they're

focused on this but it doesn't say what their whole job is. So again, we don't know exactly what they're going to be doing or how much they're going to be getting paid for that. And then it says that salaries for new employees may be able to be sustained through ongoing schedule reimbursement. I assume that's from the insurance

companies that that would be build. Um and we all know that insurance companies readily give up their money for things. So that's another issue, right? The second thing, well, talk to any of you about the other two issues that Okay, thank Thank you. We pulled items from consent and I didn't circle all of them. So, I just need Yeah. Can you read

them to me? 68 54 and 61. 54 and 61 Okay, let's start with number six. Who pulled number six? So, I pulled number six and a lot of the vendors on this list are great. I'm excited about it. Um, I'm disappointed because I think about a month and a half we had a really specific robust discussion about the Islamic network.

Uh, I did craft a letter addressing cabinet on this asking for change next year next year. And actually, Dr. Anderson, you and I talked about the fact afterwards that we would like a different vision and you had different thoughts after that particular meeting. And so seeing this again on the list surprises me because not only did we have very

strong feelings on the board, but we had a lot of constituents come and address this. So at this point, I'm trusting that you'll be with Joseph and I. I'm assuming he's in the same realm. I don't know. Um, and the Hindu community who spoke very passionately about this particular topic. So that's why I pulled this because it's it's the one important

thing on the list. Why is everyone talking when I'm trying to make a statement? But you're not. And I think that's one thing we really have to be conscientious of. I I think Josh has pointed out. I am the one trustee who's talked over again and again and again. And so this on the side is disrespectful. I apologize. Sorry. I

really am forgiven. Thank you. Sorry. I made a mistake on the agenda and I forgot that information. So I'm gonna have to go back to information. Okay. So I'm so sorry. It's a big agenda and I just But maybe you should call point of order or a small point of recess because I feel like this is consistently I

thought I'd just ask him a simple question, but go ahead. You have one more minute. Okay. Well, I don't need another minute. But I just think at this point we've had the conversation. It's back on the vendor list. I don't think it should be there. We need to remove it and do it differently next year. That's how I feel about it. I'm not going to

speak for anyone else, but I think we might have consensus with it. Yeah, Mr. Schwarz. Yes. Um, those of us who attended that session at Great Oak found it amazingly interesting. The three scholars who spoke on the three religions were absolute brilliant people. Um, Emil and I sat through it. Uh, Dr. Vez was there. We had a

community member sit with us. The the peop the kids enjoyed it. They asked great questions. The teacher directed them in the right way. It was an amazing presentation by three brilliant people and anyone who missed it missed something really good. For sake of time, I agree with Mrs. Worma. I won't vote this in if this is on it. So that's just Bryce Dan.

Oh man, you guys, if anyone knew the week I've had, I need to ask that we postpone this because I haven't read the master assembly list. And Dr. Woods, Dr. Vez would like to give some information on the process. I just before you do that, I'm not going to vote for this because I can't make a decision on information I don't I

haven't reviewed. So, can I can I just I'm going to vote with Jen and Joseph until I can review it. Can I Okay, I'm Dr. Anderson, I'm completely fine with that. So, is this the one line item that you are actually removing and you're going to approve the rest of the vendor list or are we not approving the entire

vendor list? And I I just want to explain real quick, this master assembly list is a living document. So once the board approves um somebody that comes in and does anything for our our assemblies, they're approved for three years. We do have some vendors on the list that have not we don't use them every single year. So when the

board approved this in I believe in April or March, it was approved for the three years. It doesn't mean that the high school will use it and it doesn't also mean that we are not open to using other vendors as well. Um, if this list is approved, can vendors be removed by the board in the future, Dr. Woods, or would you like to

answer, Miss It's my understanding, Dr. Anderson, they can that we could remove these. Okay. Um, Mrs. Weman, do you want to approve the list? I have I have some questions on this for Mrs. Wearsma and for you, Dr. Kamaskki. Why do you object to this group? What is your objection with the Islamic Network group? What is your I I'd like

to hear what your objection is. It is a world religions class, so the context is there, but this country was founded on Judeo-Christian values. So, how about a Jewish per Jewish person or a Christian person being the spokesperson? Um, even better, a Messianic Jew. How about that? But I've already given my reasons last board meeting. So I I do hope you find the

answers to your questions and I don't need to rehash this but I won't be voting that in. Okay. And the Hindu community was greatly greatly offended and I witnessed there I mean there's probably 20 uh speakers in here probably 10 got up to the mic and they spoke and I listened and I heard the community. So that's why that's another reason the the

only thing I need to say with this because we litigated this earlier is I sent you a link on your phone specifically with my concerns about the depth of this particular organization. So I don't want to go into detail at this point but I did send that your way and that that was in part some of my

great concern. So I'll just leave it there. It it feels like you're both dodging the question. Well that's what it feels like to me. Let's feel like maybe I'm going to I want to speak on this group. Okay. Okay. One, two. You've spoke. I'm done. You're done. Um I asked a question if we could postpone. Can I

speak before we go ahead? Okay. Um I am going to I have You sent me that link and I did a lot of research. I have no problem with this group. I think that they're actually pretty good, but I'm not going to vote to have them on our list. Um, I do feel like it is very it's

been very disruptive to use this vendor and we can find another vendor. It it I I'm looking at like the greatest good for our community and if if it's upsetting for such a a large portion of our comm community, then I I don't think we need that in our schools. We need to focus on the education. So, it was very

clear that that a lot of people came out. I don't have a problem with this group, but I'm going to I'm going to vote to remove them from the list. So, do we want to keep discussing or should we move on to No, I mean, I just want to make the point not everything Islamic is terrorism. I

mean, that's the way we think here. Okay. So, that's that's point of order. We got to this is a peaceful organization. Okay. And I agree with you both. This is a peaceful organization and they are making it out to be something different and that is what I object to. I'm with you. I'm going to Yeah. So, you're pointing fingers after

Let's make a motion. Point of order. Point of order. We're not going to discuss this anymore. Um, every time he opens up his mouth, he puts words in my mouth. No, I'm going to let this I'm not going to let this guy misrepresent me. It's another lie. I just called him out for lying again. Don't put words into my

mouth. microphone on. I'm in a motion that we approve the master assembly consultant list minus what is the third party vendor you want removed, Mrs. Where's Matt? The Islamic network. Do I have a second? I will second you. Len call. Schwarz. No. Wearsma. Yes. Kamaroski. Yes. Barham. No. Anderson. Yes. The next item is item number eight. Who

pulled item number eight? Emil. Yeah, I did. Um so this is the renewal of our uh CSBA membership and there is a part of this um membership called ELA not uh English language arts but uh where is it something yeah it's a uh excuse me one second where is it the educ it's the education legal alliance. Um, it's for roughly $5,500.

Um, I don't think subscribing to this alliance does us any good. It's a lobbying group. Um, you already have a lobbyist. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I don't think that this does us any good. Um, so what I'm going to propose is because I support girls sports that this $5,500 um if it's okay with you, Dr. Woods, that this 55 roughly $5,500 be um

allocated um to the three high schools equally or four high schools. Does Yeah. Does Rancho have a Yeah. to the four high schools and that they be um that that money be allocated equally amongst the four the four high schools. So that's my proposal here. I don't really I don't see the benefit of this. Mrs. Lash, we don't have uh the athletics

budgets at Rancho Vista High School. We do have inter mural. So we're allocated dedicated specifically to athletics. I would say stick to the three comprehensive. Okay. Yeah. That way we we're we're actually taking some tangible action to support girls sports in some way. And uh that's that's going to be my proposal. Second. I was going to say it was moved. Do I have a second?

I want to just clarify. It was moved that we not approve the ELA membership fees and instead we allocate those to the three high schools athletics. To be clear, did Mr. Barham pull number eight? Yes. Which is CSBA? You said ELA. So, I'm just trying to track. If you click on it, it's on there. It's part of it. I'm trying to find the 5500

um that you just cited. There it is. Okay, I see it now. I got you. I have a motion in a second. Um is there anyone that opposes? Yeah, for clarity though. Um Mr. Lash, I like what you said about Inner Mural. What about money going to Inter Mural at Ranch Vista since they don't have an athletics

department? Actually, that's one of the agenda items tonight to add an inter mural stipend to that appendix um for specifically Rancher Vista High School. So, that's covered elsewhere. That's covered elsewhere. Yep. And this would not be for stipens. This is just for materials and supplies which are very expensive for use it for like stunt mats or something like that. Whatever

they want. Stunt. Oh, yeah. Mats. Stunt. I've been here a lot. Len, please call roll shorts. Yes. Wema yes. Kamroski. Yes. Borham. Yes. Anderson. Yes. The motion passes unanimously to approve consent item number eight. The next consent item minus 54. Oh 8 minus the ELA which goes to we need to make a se separate motion. Yes. So, I motion to

approve um consent item number eight minus ELA membership. Second. Does anyone oppose? The motion passes unanimously. Okay. Next. 54. 54. Who pulled 54? I think I did. What's this? This JPA schools insurance authority. Yeah. I'm I'm going to approve number 54. That's our JPA. Um but I want I just want to make the comment that that cost has

increased 20%. And it's not just because of market conditions. We all know that insurance is going up, but we have to be very mindful of what we do up here in terms of litigation because what we do up here in terms of litigation impacts the cost of our JPA. and we're up like $700,000 between last year and this year, which

is an an inordinate amount. So that's why I want to caution everybody in terms of what what we do up here because we don't want our JPA to keep going through the roof like it is. So that's my only comment. Then I move to approve item 54 on the Is there any debate with that? No. Then item 54 on the consent calendar. Second.

Okay. Is there any opposed? Then item 54 passes unanimously. Um item number 61 was pulled. Mrs. Wearsman, did you pull that or Dr. Who pulled 61? 61, which 61 was me, but Oh, 59. 59. No, it was 54 and they did it. They just did 54. So, we're on 61. That's correct. Okay. So, for 61 and what I want to

communicate here, and if Mrs. Deis after I read through this wants to comment, I would welcome that. I've done a lot of research with this particular grant since our workshop that we did. I've watched a variety of videos and my feeling is this multi-payer fee schedule and hopeful revenue stream um is something that we are going to run into

problems with. And as a constituent pointed out, it could open the door for keeping secrets from parents. And I've heard videos where primary schools that have gotten started with this, they do talk about blind billing and that's something that they advocate for and can happen. And that greatly concerns me. That was a flagship school that got started. And what has become clear to me

as I've studied this is that under an idea of equitable mental health, it is framing the anchoring of community schools, cultivating social change. When we look at concerns like intersectionality, gender ideology, critical framing, partnering with people in the community and them coming into wellness centers, I have concerns. I know that we've been promised transparency, and I believe that was an

honest appraisal of what the district expects to do. But once you open the door to this, I think it's a portal to an unknown place that won't be where some there's too much wiggle room. and I could hold up my phone and play for you someone who talks about the blind billing and the aspects of circumventing parents.

And though we have a parent specialist within this contract, I question it. It's only it is a newer program. I would be much more comfortable stepping back. There's no way I'm going to vote this through. And it's not that I think our students don't deserve help. I don't believe this is the portal to do it. It is a government program. I could go on

and on and I will continue to educate the community because if I have colleagues that vote for this, you can be sure you're going to hear some additional perspective because I have concerns of where this could go and that we'll have financial issues in the future as well. Thank you. Time. Did anyone else have any comment on

this? Okay. then let's call the vote. Okay. Len, you we have a motion to approve the agreement for school linked partnership and capacity grant. Second. I could have not Schwarz. I've read this through and I still have questions. So, um, I'm going to abstain because I don't really know enough and I don't want to vote no just to vote no

and I also don't want to vote yes just to vote yes. So, I'm going to abstain on this issue. Where's I am a definite no. Joseph, oh, sorry, Kamroski. No. Barham, no. Anderson. Okay. Um, I'm going to vote no. Come together with the board. Okay. Um, the consent item 61 fails with four no and one abstain. The next item, I'm sorry that I

interrupted when you were speaking. Mrs. Where's Matt? When we made changes to the agenda, I moved an action item to information and that was um we already did it. No, I moved number five, accommodation 35 C. Oh, we need to approve the rest of consent. So, I motion Let me get back to where we are supposed to be.

Like I said, it's been a long week. I move to approve the remaining consent items that were not pulled for separate action. Second. Does anyone oppose? Then the consent items all pass unanimously. Okay, let me flip back to information items. Um when I when we approved the agenda, I moved action item 35C, which is the AR to accompany

um the new board policy amendment. Let me just I'm just going to read my statement on this one. Um, at our last board meeting, the religious and mental health accommodation policy was adopted by a 3-2 vote. This is a strong lawful policy that ensures students can request accommodation for sincerely held religious beliefs or mental health needs without requiring a diagnosis or burden

of proof. Most importantly, it guarantees privacy for students, including girls, while respecting the current California law and the rights of our other students in the schools. This policy is built on a simple principle that families know what their children need, whether that's a private space to change or an exempt exemption from certain curriculum. Our policy provides a clear, respectful process

that protects religious freedom, student dignity, and legal compliance. It follows ED code and reflects the First Amendment's protections for religious expression. We also want the public to know that the accompany accompany administrative regulation what we call AR is still under legal review. We are actively seeking feedback as we finalize it. The AR will provide additional clarity on how accommodations

are granted at school site level and how we ensure fairness and transparency. Having both the policy and the AR in place is crucial. Together they form a comprehensive framework that protects girls privacy, respects religious beliefs, and also upholds transgender rights. It also keeps our district aligned with California law. This isn't about politics. It's about protecting all of the students in a way that is

lawful, compassionate, and enforceable. We welcome your input as we do refine the accompanying AR. Mr. Barham, you've worked on this with me. Did you have comment and I agree with everything that you said. I would just like the public to know I think it's really important and I think it needs to be clear in this AR and it's

not that this is not opt out. this is opt-in and that um parents andor guardians are going to see this when they register their kids at the beginning of every year that this religious freedom accommodation because to me it is about religious freedom. that this religious freedom accommodation and/or mental health accommodation is available to protect all kids um and to keep them from any

distress that they might experience in a shared space. And I think that um we've given this a lot of thought and I think the community has some issues with it. But we're open to other suggestions because this is a complex issue. But what we're trying to accomplish here is we're trying to protect all kids here. That's what we're trying to do. So, and

again, I just want to make it clear and I think it needs to be stated in the policy or in the AR that this is not opt out. This is opt in. So, that's all I have to say on this. And then I wanted to make can I make one final statement that um when we say this protects all

students, when you look at the language, we are not singling out transgender students. Um we don't want to do that. um it protects well yeah it is against the law um but I don't want to cause um mental stress on anyone here so we have um we've worked really carefully with this language and we do have the general

population and then we have this accommodation population so all students will be considered general population unless they opt to request an accommodation then they will be the accommodation okay one more thing can Emil make one more statement Okay, thank you. Districts have not confronted this issue. They're afraid to do it. We're giving a voice to everyone here. Um,

this is we have shared mixed bases. It's been going it's it's been happening for years. The law has been in effect for 12 years. We're just giving it we're actually confronting what the concerns the concerns of the community and parents have and but no districts they don't touch this. So I mean I I give especially you because you

worked very hard on this a lot harder than I did. I give you a lot of credit because you've thought out of the box um and uh to represent our entire community in compliance with the law. So I commend you for that. So I do have a couple of comments on this and a question. So when you mention

the optin, it is at the beginning of a school year. This will be a form along with all the others that a parent can fill out. Correct? And the change here is that you don't have to show a burden of proof. Correct? So it doesn't have to be religious or mental. They don't have to go into detail. They can simply make

that decision. I've had a question come to me. Is this an outing policy? It's not because if I'm thinking this is correct correct that every parent has the ability to fill this out that it's not because we're not addressing a specific situation yet. It's just that every parent has that upfront ability to do that. So that's one question I have.

And then secondly, I actually concur with Mr. Barham on the fact that it's really important that this district figures out what our communication is because I've talked to PE teachers who have told me I don't have clarity. I'm not sure what to do. I'm trying to do the best I can. I love teaching PE, but I'm going to walk away if I can't figure

this out because I know where I stand and I want students to be protected and I want to do what's lawful. So, my hope is that this at least takes us there. One of the reasons why I didn't vote for it previously is it was bundled in a big discussion that we had and it wasn't separated out, but to me it looks like

it's better that you don't have the burden of proof. If you can opt in, do it. That's what you need to know. If you have a problem with this, fill out the form at the beginning of the year. Am I getting that right? Yeah. And and one of the burden b when you read through the ideas right now for AR, we don't want to

burden our staff with saying that you need to look for a burden of proof. And I need to my my brother back in the 90s, he had an accommodation because he couldn't go to the bathroom after lunch unless he was at home. He was like too nervous to go into the bathroom and it caused him to have stomach aches. So, so that was

before any anyone was worried about who else was in the bathroom with him. And he got an a mental health accommodation. They didn't call it that then, but I would call that now. And every day after lunch, he was scheduled PE so he could go home and use the restroom. Like being a teenager is hard. We don't want to

single out any teen anyone. And it does say that um they're protected from disclosure that we will be protecting everyone from disclosure. So, we've talked about um parental notification regarding mixeduse spaces and we have mixeduse spaces. Like I can say right now part of the original language in the policy states we have mixeduse spaces. That's your parental

notification. If you didn't know that now it's been 12 years we have mixeduse locker rooms and bathrooms in our district. So, the notification is there, like you can expect that your kids will be in mixeduse spaces. Um, and now you're notified. Um, here's some options for you if you have a religious or a mental health accommodation right now in terms

of if it's a parental right. Any other any other questions? Okay. So, we're going to we're going to review this and look for feedback on it and I'll put this on the next um meeting. Yeah, there's no motion. So, there's some people that had a public comment on one of them. Do you want to wait until So, some is I'm just going to ask did

someone have a public comment on 35C? Yes. Yes. Okay. Can I'm gonna Is the board okay if we move that public comment right now? Okay. Can I Yeah. Michael is and then are there any other comments on 35C? Okay. Go ahead and bring it up. And we'll only we'll only be taking public comment on 35C and we'll take the rest

of 35 later. Thank you for letting me come up and share with you specifically over the conversation that has just blessed to hear this interaction taking place and I really do respect your attempt of making every child feel safe. I do want to talk to you a little bit further about the language and I do respect that you have all worked hard to

make sure that this language is all inclusive but I want to share with you what I hear as a parent of a transgender child when I read religious freedom and mental health being the only reason that we can have these I hear from this body my child you feel my child has meal And I would combat that. I would combat

that with information that I have gone through different psychiatric care with my child and different therapies for my child to get to the place that is known to treat. So when I hear these things, there is some language that still needs tweaking because I I see you shaking your head now with me and I I respect that deeply. That's why I wanted to

speak to this because That's the language issue that you're wrestling with and part of the conversation that you've asked for. I'm sharing with you as a transar that's how I received that. And I I do deeply appreciate that that's not your intent. But also, there are transgender kids that will see this and they'll ask the question, does this board think that I

have a mental issue? They'll ask that question. I just really when you go back to it, please you're doing a great job. I I respect I really do. But please work really hard on that language because the reason I came here tonight was to speak towards that specific child language is missing in this. Thank you for listening to me. Again, I want you

to hear me. I know it's hard. I really And I appreciate that effort and work to get to that place for the language. And thank you for saying this for you to hear. You wanted to hear this. So, I'm sharing it with you. As a parent of a transgender child, I was offended by that language that I read. I was

offended enough by Thank you. Next, David Solah. David Sola, good evening again. Um, I had this whole long speech prepared and I think I'm just going to wing it right now because I want to look you all in the face and say I do appreciate when you try to work together because that does reflect the best of the community when you are

trying to work together. But I do feel oftentimes that when you're working together it's not genuine. It's pretty disingenuous. Kind of like some people looking at their phones when I'm up here speaking but I have to look at you when you're speaking. Right? that sort of thing that you're still doing. Mr. Solo, is this related to the Yeah, it is. It is. So,

with parental notification, we spend a lot of time trying to craft policy that works for everybody, right? You all do that. But I don't think you all are really understanding that there are people that you can still hurt if you're only representing the people that agree with you. That's not who you're supposed to represent. It doesn't matter if you

win 99% to one. There is still that 1% that you should represent with parental notification. You cannot just go for the 99. And if you're going to do it, please do it in earnest. Please do it honestly. And please do it for everyone. I understand that there are people that put you in your seat in your seats. And

I understand that you worked hard to get there. I'm asking you to not ignore the people that didn't vote for you. They matter too. whether you believe it or not. Thank you. Thank you. Are we able to take a five minute break? Yeah. Well, we're going to Is that okay? Do I have a second for a fivem minute

recess? Yeah. Okay. Five minute recess. it been five minutes? Oh, yeah. All right, let's uh call the meeting back to order. Mr. Schwarz. You have six comments on action items. Which ones are they? If they're parental rights, we're saving them notifications. Put all the parental not. Let's do it all at once. Don't you think? Just so they have consensus. Oh,

yeah. Then once we take them, we can be just do it all. Yeah. Then we don't have to go back to 9:30. All right, we have action item number two. Conduct a public hearing for the Tmacula Valley Unifford School District. Before we go into action items, we have how many public comments? Six. We have six public comments. Okay, now is the time for

public comments, Len? on action items. Christine Masa followed by David Sola. Hello and good evening. Uh this is regarding 20. I was excited to see the addition of two girls sports stipens added to the schedule for approval this year. However, as I opened the documents, I was disappointed to see nothing added for stunt, which we've been asking about for several years. The

new stipens are for the new sport of girls flag football, which hasn't even started one season in the district. As you know, stunt is a CIF spring sport at the varsity and junior varsity levels. For background, I'm a mom of two varsity stunters. One who graduated in 2024 and then my current Puma who was on Chapperel's first JB team in 2023.

Uh she's in her second year in varsity now. Stunt has been in TVSD for 7 years. CHS and TVHS added JV teams in 2023 and Great Oak added a JV team in this most recent 2025 season. So now all three traditional TVUSD high schools have junior varsity stunt teams. And the best way that's the best way for them to

build strong and safe varsity teams. TVUSD does not provide any stipens for stunt coaches. They provide one competitive cheer stipend which was has gone unused and is repurposed for varsity stunt and then nothing for JV stunt nor any funding for assistant coaches for stunt. The teams handled this via fundraising costing thousands in donor funds. I can only speak

specifically to Chapperel, but I know that last year we raised more than $5,000 to pay a JV coach and an assistant varsity coach. We had to forego new tumbling mats this year to use that money for coaches. The mats are also not funded by the district. We can only have JD teams to develop skills safely if we have dedicated paid

coaches. Neighboring MVUSD offers two varsity and two JV coaching stipens, so we can't compete. This year, stuners from our three high schools received athletic scholarships, including one TVHS grad who is going to CBU, which is the number one collegiate stunt team in the nation. Additionally, TVHS were undefeated league champions this past season and went to CIF state finals.

Meanwhile, flag football hasn't even completed a season at any level in any league. And they got two coaches funded. Many sports fund raise for assistant or specialty coaches like a tumbling coach, but we should not have to fundra for head coaches just so that we can have a program. JV TBUSD funds JV coaches for baseball, basketball, football, golf,

lacrosse, soccer, softball, swimming, tennis, volleyball, water polo, and wrestling, and now flag football. So, what's the algorithm to get a stipend for a stunt JV coach? Now, I'm supportive of girls flag football. My daughter played uh at the school level uh last year. I'm not asking for anyone's stipens to be denied, but what I ask is please don't

approve this schedule. take it back, see what it would take to add stunt to it, and then bring it back at your next meeting. Thank you. Thank you, David Sola, followed by Sorry, I'm Josh Sherene. Good evening. This is about action item number 27, the CFD. The district is at a critical point. Our infrastructure is aging. Our schools are

crowded and some of our facilities were built for a time that no longer reflects the needs or the size of this community. We are no longer in a budget surplus. The state is in a deficit and the money we once hoped might come from Sacramento is no longer guaranteed. Yet, some members of this board have chosen previously to vote against a

community facilities district. A solution used by responsible districts across California because why? Politics, fear. Let's be clear. Voting against the CFD doesn't hurt a developer. It hurts students. It delays necessary improvements. It kicks the can down the road. And it places the burden squarely on families and staff trying to teach and learn in outdated conditions. Rejecting the CFD doesn't make you a

fiscal conservative. It makes you fiscally irresponsible. Because failing to plan for long-term infrastructure needs isn't saving money. It's inviting emergency spending later when costs are higher and options are fewer. We can't run a growing district on yesterday's dollars. We can't maintain quality education in buildings that are fa falling behind. And we certainly can't keep pretending that saying no to

everything is the same as leadership. If you're voting against solutions, you'd better be offering some of your own. So far, that hasn't happened. This district needs forward thinking, not fear-based foot dragging. Our kids deserve classrooms and campuses that reflect the future, not the past. Supporting the CFD is not just a vote for funding. It's a vote for responsibility, for growth, and

for putting students first. Thank you, Josh. Followed by Steph Woodland. This is about uh number 35. It has 10 different things in there, nine. Now, the omnibus method I don't I don't like, which these require individual uh conversations, so it'd be quick. Uh 5145.2 freedom of expression. Uh the draft policy claims to support student free expression, but it doesn't. It

requires advanced approval, limits to protest to lunch in designated zones, and demands parent permission, turning real protest into a permission slip. It cites school shootings to justify these restrictions, but most involve a single. So those are almost never multiple shooters. Using fear to suppress the student voice is not safety, it's censorship. If we want students to become active citizens, we need to trust

them to speak, not silence them. If we teach them about democracy, we have to let them practice it. Rights that only exist when they're convenient, aren't really rights at all. About the student records, uh, regulation 5125 impacts transgender students, especially those socially transitioning at school. The policy says that legal name or gender markers can only be changed with a court

order. For many trans students, that's simply not an option due to family rejection, financial barriers, or safety concerns. This effectively denies them full recognition in official school records even when they live every day as their affirmed identity. This policy does not does allow use of preferred names or pronouns and other documents but only after a written request. That's a

problem. Requiring a formal paper trail outs kids before they're ready to put the and puts the burden on them to navigate adult systems just to be respected. Worse, the policy says parents will be automatically notified of any record change, even unofficial ones, through infinite campus. That means a trans student who changes their pronouns or preferred name in the system could be

unintentionally or intentionally outed to unsupportive parents. That's not just a privacy issue, that's a safety issue. I urge this board to revise this policy to better protect trans and non-binary students. That includes allowing students to use affirm names and pronouns without parental consent, stopping automatic notifications for non-legal changes, and training staff to comply respectfully and consistently. Our job is to educate and protect every

student, not just the ones whose identities fits easily into the system. You've made it very vague to see what it really is. I don't think the conversation should start with an email to a parent that, hey, I changed my pronoun at school. That's a terrible way to start the conversation. It's just substituting the teacher, the counselor, the principal, the admin with an

infinite campus alert. That's that's just we're it's the same policy right here with the a different mechanism. It's still not I mean, we're going to get sued over that, too. So, thank you guys. Appreciate it. Thank you, Seth. Is it Woodland? Ward. Woollard. Sorry about that. Followed by Greg Lingworthy. Hi, good evening. I'm here to support the stunt community and our girls. Um, I

didn't prepare anything because this was very last moment and I'm going to be honest, this is my first time to a meeting. So, this has been very educational and exciting. Um, but I hear a lot of talk about supporting girls sports and legalities and I've got a lot more questions than things I wanted to say to you. And one

of the questions that keeps coming up in my brain is how is this sport been around for seven years without stipens for coaches? Like how is there no like set checklist for these sports? It's like, okay, here's a sport and this is what every sport has to have. And to me, coaches and money for them should be

like at the top of the list. Like, why is that just not a no-brainer? So, I really hope that 51.88 ELA money I saw up there kind of comes our way this year because that would really really help support their program and what they're trying to do in the community. It's one, it's the fastest growing women's sport in the

nation. the college level, the opportunities for these girls are just amazing. I know because I'm looking every week at a new school, a new college who's opening it up for them, but it's it's a safety issue and we we really want to have awesome coaches and people who want to be there for our girls. Um, the mats are important, the helmets

are important, but if we don't have properly trained, paid coaches to support them and to grow them, especially for the JV, because without them getting the support, nurturing they need, they're not going to be able to compete safely at the varsity level and grow the way they want to grow as well. So, I really hope that um you guys take

some that into serious consideration and um get some money for our girls so um they can go on and do all the fabulous things that girls sports does for them. Um so, yeah, that's it. Thank you. Thank you, So the my comment is more of a question um than a comment. So I was looking down on the uh curriculum um

sociology textbook. So curriculum the word curriculum means like a a race course. So you run a course and you go through the course and then you you finish the course and now now you know more than you did before. So my question is how would a community person learn what is in the sociology curriculum this textbook so we could kind of evaluate

it. Uh it's it's a very important question. You know sociology is the study of societies really gets down to we're going to you guys are going to study the constitution. Constitution you're going we're going to learn how America became such a successful society. So, I'm wondering how this curriculum would teach. Maybe American history is in there. I I

don't know. But anyway, that that was my question. How would I be able to look at the curriculum or this the sociology textbook to kind of evaluate that? Might be a question that comes up at our church, too. You know, someone wants to know what are we teaching in sociology? How would we have access to uh getting

those questions answered? So, that was it. Thank you. Thank you. Last speaker, Melanie. So, I came here to the other schoolboard meeting to talk about the parental notification policy because I had questions when Dr. Kamroski wanted to present the Chino's version of their um parental change of records and I wasn't getting any answers. So I reached out to

some teachers in Chino and there seemed to be some confusion there and then I was told they were doing their policy and whatever. Jen, you were so helpful in communicating with me what I wasn't understanding and you tried to put me in touch with Sonia Shaw and then I saw that video that Dr. Kamaroski put on his

social media where Sonia Shaw explained exactly what was going on in there. Then I figured out where I went wrong and I I didn't get any answers from Sonia Shaw despite the many emails I sent her and you putting me in contact. But I did get emails back from their union president who explained that teachers actually aren't involved in that process.

Like Sonia Shaw said, the kids are being sent directly to the principles. The principles of the schools are bullying the kids to go back into the closet. That's the elegant solution that was proposed for Tmacula. See, we already did that here in Tmacula. That was our very first parental notification policy. We didn't want to get in trouble with the court.

So, what we were doing was we told our kids, "You had 72 hours to retract your statement or we were going to call your parents." And it worked. All of our queer kids that said, "I want to go by a different name or different gender identity were bullied to go back into the closet." And this was the elegant solution,

you know, that Sonia Shaw is doing in Chino. And she said on that video, the kids are saying, "No, no, no, no, no. Don't call my parents. I don't want you to do that." And that brought me to looking at our policy right now, this new parental notification. We are going to have kids that are going to say that

even it's an option for the for our kids. You the kids are going to go up. They are going to be told any anything that you say it's going to be an automatic thing. It's it is better. A a an adult isn't going to bully them. You know, you you you know, you do it over calling your parents, but they still are

going to be told this. So then what happens? Because they aren't going to go back. It's not going to to change their mind. Are our kids going to be followed up with? What about those kids that say, "Okay, no, never mind." Are they going to be followed up with? Who's looking at those kids? I didn't. [Applause] Okay, thank you. Um, we'll start with

action item number two. Conduct a public hearing for the Tmacula Valley Unified School District SLPA annual service plan and annual budget plan for the 202526 school year. I move to conduct a public hearing for the 2526 SUPA annual service plan and annual budget plan. Do I have a second? Second. Does anyone oppose? The motion passes unanimously. This time and place at this time and

place designated for the 2025 26 SULPA annual service plan and annual budget plan. I declare the hearing now open at 8:01 p.m. Is there any item for discussion? No. Is there anyone who wishes to comment on the 202526 Selpa annual service plan and budget? No. All right. If there are no comments, I will declare the public hearing closed.

Public hearing end time. 8. Can I say 8:02? 8:01 p.m. Adoption of the Tmacula Valley Unified School District SULPA annual service plan and annual budget plan for the 202526. I moved. Kent second. Is there anyone that opposes? All right. No one opposes. The motion is adopted unanimously. Community advisory committee CAC appointments. I move to approve the new

additional members of the community advisory committee. Do I have a second? Second. Does anyone oppose? No one opposes. So, the motion is adopted unanimously. Adoption of the Oh, I'm sorry. I move to adopt the 202526 local control and accountability plan and the 2425 California dashboard local indicators. Do I have a second? Second. Does anyone oppose? Nobody opposes. So, the motion is

adopted unanimously. I move to adopt the 2024 25 local control and accountability plan federal addendum. Do I have a second? Does anyone oppose? Nobody opposes. So, the motion is adopted unanimously. I move to adopt the proposed 202526 budget. Do I have second? Does anyone oppose? No. But I I would like to say having sat in on several of the budget

meetings and looking at the amount of effort that goes into it line by line, item by item is just amazing. And um there's a whole list of wants and a whole list of needs. And a lot of the wants are things that we would really like to do, but we can't afford them. And so I just want to commend uh Nicole

Lash and her staff uh for the amount of effort that they put in. If you sit through these budget meetings, you can't believe the specificity that's involved and the amount of care and work that goes into it. So just thank you for what you do. Thank you. Any other comment? Seven. Does anyone oppose? No one opposes. So, the motion is

adopted unanimously. I move to adopt resolution number 202425-40 education protection account and approve the receipt and use of education protection account funds for the fiscal year 202425 and 2526. Do I have a second? Second. Does anyone oppose? Nobody opposes. So the motion is adopted unanimously. I move to approve the online textbook database adoption for IBDP physics, IBDP biology, IBDP

environmental systems and societies. Publisher Cognity. Do I have a second? Second. Does anyone oppose? Nobody opposes. So the motion passes unanimously. I move to approve the textbook adoption for sports exercise and health science by John Sprout, publisher, Oxford University Press. Do I have a second? Second. Does anyone oppose? No one opposes. So the motion passes unanimously. I move to approve the

textbook adoption for college and algebra 2e by J. Abramson, senior contributor, publisher, open stacks. There's no opposition. So, the motion is adopted unanimously. I move to approve the textbook pre-calculus 2e by Jay Abramson senior contributor publisher open stacks. Do I have a second? Second. Does anyone oppose? There's no opposition. So the motion is adopted unanimously. I move to approve the textbook adopted

for seven habits of highly effective college students by Shaun Cvy. Publisher Franken Franklin CVY. Do I have a second? Second. All right, I'll take Wearsma on that one. Does anyone oppose? No one opposes. So, the motion is adopted unanimously. I move to approve the textbook adoption of sociology, a downto-earth approach, 15th edition, author James M. Henslin. Do I have a second? Second. We have

discussion on this, Mrs. Worman. I So do Mr. Barm and I. Okay. Um, can I start with Mr. Barm because he was on the committee and we he I'll let them go first. You want them to go first? Okay, go first. It looks like there's a lot of discussion on this one. So, there was a community member that

had questions about it. Yes. I would like to thank Mr. Langworthy for coming forward and and mentioning this and we can talk about how the public can view textbooks at another time. But I spent a great deal of hours over the weekend looking at the sociology book. I downloaded the PDF and some of it's good and balanced.

There's other aspects that I feel aren't age appropriate or neglect to present some neutral views. And so I'm I know we have limited time, so I'm just gonna take you through several excerpts, and it's why I won't be voting it through tonight. Um, in addition to some viewpoints on things like climate change that are very biased, uh, there was mention of

gynecological exams and aspects that I feel younger students, if they're ninth and tth grade, shouldn't be looking at. There was a mention of geopolitical times which of course would be a part of the topic for sociology but there's a paragraph here we will be in good hands in our coming one world government just as long as we agree and cooperate with

the vision of these extraordinary young global leaders who will be following the instructions of their wise owls. Um this is definitely a viewpoint that one could debate and again the book does offer some debate but there's too many opportunities where they present a bias. We are talking about privilege theory protecting status and power. Um it goes into cohabitation and this particularly

bothered me as a mom reading it. It says does cohabitation make marriage stronger? It would seem that it does. And on average, most couples share intimate everyday living together experiences for about 32 months before they marry. This provides them the opportunity to work out many problems before they make the commitment to marry. I'll tell you, having raised kids

and kind of seeing the trajectory, that's not true. And there's statistics to say that doesn't make a marriage strong. So, that's just several points where I've got Okay. Okay. Thank you. It's It's okay. Yeah. Oh, I can continue. Okay. Just a couple Okay. Yeah. Well, and and the important thing is is I want parents to know when

we have to take the time to study, we devote hours. Go ahead, Joe. Okay. Um All right. Let me get this off in two minutes. So, yes, on uh chapter 8, to be fair, it's labeled uh devian and social control. Um, but there's I don't know. For me, I'm going to reject this textbook as uh age inappropriate, even though it can be

brought certain parts of the book can be brought in under controversial issues, no problem. But I'll flag it as age inappropriate. Um, I think this course can be taught as, and correct me if I'm wrong, 9th or 10th grade oak high school sociology. Um, 14 15 year olds. And I don't want them exposed to this. Um, but I'll give

you a couple examples. One, uh, let me read this. Norms of sexual behavior. This is on page 205. And Jen, thank you for buying the PDF. Um, she did a lot of background work on this. Norms of sexual behavior vary so widely around the world that is what considered, you know, what is considered normal on society and may

be considered deviant in another. In Kenya, a group called POC places high emphasis on sexual pleasure and they expect that both the husband and the wife will reach orgasm. If a husband does not satisfy the wife, he is in trouble, especially if he thinks he's a failure is because of another woman. If she thinks so, uh, she and her female

friends will sneak up on her husband when he's asleep. The woman will tie him up, shout obscenities at him, beat him, and then urinate on him. Uh, 205. It's in the chapter, Deviant, uh, sorry, um, chapter 8, deviance and social control. So, now let's move on to chapter 16, Marriage and the Family. There's one very disturbing page here.

Um, it's on page 506. There's a picture. What is unusual about this German couple is not that they have four children, but that they are brother and sister. So, the European Court ruled against their challenge to Germany's incest laws. Their incest Oh, they um sorry, they their incest. Sorry, they insist. I know incest and insist. It got me.

They insist that they have done nothing wrong and they are in love. What do you think? I'll tell you what I think. Uh this is inappropriate uh age inappropriate for um children at our TVD schools to be incorporated with. I I am a part of a sociology philosophy to program. This is a college level course they can take time. I would love for him

to finish because he's got experience with sociology. Can you give him another 30 seconds to finish? We're going to keep going. Stick to the rules, please. And no, you have to talk to Dr. Wood. You have to direct that with Dr. Woods. But could you could you give me the page number? The first defense and social control chapter eight

page and there there's more by the way I was cut you know this is not enough time page 205 205 on the chapter 16 marriage and family uh on the incest that's page 20 uh 506 sorry 506 okay um and then Mr. Barham Dr. Woods can we can we bring up Mr. Baliwag for some question. Thank you for

asking. Dr. Valz, can we do that? Yes, I'm fine with that. Mr. Balwag is ready to answer any questions on this. I would like to note a couple of things. This is great. This is for grades 10 through 12 and it's an elective course. So, I just wanted to give a little bit of context and then I can have um Mr. Bow talk

about not only the process but answer any questions. The the first question is can you verify the page numbers that I Could I look at the book while you're talking? Absolutely. Okay. I just gave you the page numbers though for real. No, I'm going to look at Okay. Just I had the book and then I gave it to Mr.

Barham and he left it I left it at home. At home. What What page number, Dr. Kamroski? What page number? a second. I do want to make sure that it's clear that um that book that I've handed you is the 14th edition. The 15th edition is what's up here and I don't know the edition that Mr. Kamaroski is

looking at. So you would the the page numbers may not exactly align is what my point is. Page 205. You'll have a snapshot. You'll kind of have a picture. It'll say Mexico, Kenya in the picture. Cultural diversity around the world. If the 14th matches the 15th, this was this was Oh yeah. So, Mr. Bowwag. Yes, sir. Th This is an elective.

Sociology is an elective course that's taught at all three of our traditional high schools. It's primarily enrolled with 11th and 12th graders. And when I asked there are some sophomores that will take the course, but when I asked you the age of the kids that were in this class, we basically said that they were 17 and 18 year olds.

Um, with there are some 16 year olds, sophomores that can also be 15 at the beginning of their sophomore year. Okay. Okay. That's more of an anomaly than who typically enrolls in the course. Um, I'll also as an elective just make sure that we're all clear what that means. The course is not compulsory. The course is elected into by students. I mean just

just for the public's information and for your information. We have been going back and forth on this book, right Dr. Vez and Mr. Bowwag? For months, okay? It's not like we just looked at this yesterday. Um there are certain chapters that are not taught in this book. There are certain topics. Correct. Correct. Okay. So, can you elaborate on what those topics might be?

So, I think I Yes. And I I will elaborate first by saying I don't teach the course. I'm here representing the process that we use. Um, in responding to that question, I would say that the vast majority of the books that the group who teach the course, three teachers, looked at, are college level texts. There are not a lot

of high school level texts for a sociology elective course. This is one of what I um understand to be two that are deemed high school um appropriate. And so there's not a lot of choice that the that the team had because I asked you to go back two or three months ago. I asked you to go back and find another book. Correct.

There's not a lot to choose from. Right. I mean, it's not like a math book or an ELA book, a literature book. um we we've got lots of choice on that, but not not for this course, we don't have a lot of choice. So, with that in mind, um with this being one of the few that these um teachers have to choose

from, they you they recommend this textbook knowing that there are certain elements in the textbook that they will not put into the course. So what we talked about was we either choose this book, we don't choose this book and we and we keep the class and we supplement and in that case we don't have as much control

because we don't have an adopted textbook and we're pretty much relying on the teacher's judgment to come up with information that I mean there could be a whole bunch of information that people on this board might object to. Um or maybe we just don't have the class at all. I mean those were those were the options that we were considering.

There were parts of the book that me and Mrs. or Mrs. Worman and I had looked at parts of the book are excellent. Yeah, there are parts that we flagged. So you're interrupting me. Well, are you going to talk the whole time? You know, I didn't know if this was a participation that amongst board members. She's the person supposed to

allow that. I'm sorry, time. I'm sorry, time. Mr. Mr. Bar, your two minutes are up. Um, I just want to say that we did pull action item 35i because we're trying to figure out what do we do here. Um, I had mentioned that we could notify parents of the explicit content in the book and allowing them um for using 5145.3

accommodation to opt out of some of the content. Um, we could also I mean I I did find a couple chapters quite good. I I like their healthcare chapter, but um their perspectives on um healthcare in America, but there was other I read this with my husband and there were things that I would not want my kids reading. So, this is a really

tough conversation that we have to have and I think as a board we're going to have to decide um our options that Mr. Baram had presented. We either not have the class, we say I don't know if it's too late to say find another book. Um, for me, I didn't even like I read through it. I didn't read the urinating

on their husband's part. I just read it right now. It's in that one. Um, I don't know if saying that the teachers can just supplement themselves, if we can get any worse than urinating on people. Like, I don't know if they're going to come up with anything more like graphic than that. Could I ask a couple questions first? Okay. Um, one thing I

want to add is BP6000, which is a prior policy that Dr. Kamroski and I worked on, might circumn some of those issues with supplementary material, especially when it comes to things that are explicit. So, there's that question. Um, Mr. Baliwe, how many students does this affect? And how many textbooks I know it's over 15 years old, so we've got

older resources. How many kids one take the class and then number two how many textbooks are we short or are we really it would be preferable to change it out but do we have a goodly number still at this point? So um to answer those questions the first answer would be we offer typically one to two sections on each one of our high

school campuses. So it could be anywhere from three to six sections per school year. Um, typically there's we staff them at about 37 students to one. Um, and so typically you're anywhere from 30 students to 37 students per section. Um, so you could do the quick math there of the number of students that would be taking the course.

Um, the question about the current textbook, I think it's important to understand that the current textbook is an earlier version of this textbook. And so this textbook has been used for this course for 15 years um in our district, an earlier version of the textbook that was approved by a prior board. So if another option that wasn't

mentioned by Mr. Barham would be that if this textbook, this edition of the textbook was not approved, the current textbook is this textbook. I have a couple version and then comments. Okay, so with this 15th is the 14th edition, does it have supplemental material online that is packaged with this? And if not, is that why the push

for the 15th edition? Are there are there newer resources that are online outside of the hard copy book? Um, yes, it comes with um the PDF that it sounds like you guys looked at and then some enhanced um kind of assessment tools that come along, questions, question banks, those types of things that come along with the um 15th

edition. I didn't finish answering I think all of your question. Also, the current book is no longer in circulation. And so, because they're 15 years old, there's also many that are in disrepair. And so, we we don't have the ability to purchase more of the current edition as well, which was really the biggest push for why we needed a newer edition.

Thank you, Mr. Bal. I still had a comment. Oh, go ahead. Go ahead. Oh, yeah. You still have a minute left. Sorry. Um, I don't like the opt out version. I I I I approach this analogously like the video that I made on parental notification. It's a subclass of parental rights. Pronal rights is we let the parents know, hey, this is your

right. You can do this X, Y, and Z. Primal notification is no matter what you do, this is what we're going to tell the district to do for you. So on this one, we're the final arbiter of values in this community. And I don't value some of the things in this book. And I don't want to put the burden on a parent

to say, "Yeah, I'm going to opt out of reading this or that chapter." I think the board should direct the district to either revamp what we use to make it absolutely clear this will not be in front of those students. That's my thought is to be the arbiter of values and to make that happen and not put that

burden on a parent. That's why we're elected. Can I Okay, Mr. Barham. Yeah. So, it's going to be hard to do this in two minutes, but we've got processes in place that we are we're actually revamping and we we know that when we go through the teachers and then we go through the department and then we go through crosscurricular,

we're going to put mature, we're going to have a checkbox mature andor controversial topics. That's one thing that we're going to institute. So that if that happens, then just like with our ELA text, our English language arts text, this is what we do with even those texts because there are mature topics in those texts. And as kids get older, they mature. So I'm

proposing that if we have a checkbox because there's obviously mature topics here that we that we direct the superintendent to like we do with English language arts. TVUSD places a high value on maintaining strong partnerships with parents in monitoring instructional materials. An effective partnership is established when teachers communicate information about instructional materials and parents actively monitor the books or texts

their children read. This text is designed to challenge sophisticated readers and deals with mature and/or controversial topics. Parents are encouraged to embrace this active role by communicating questions or concerns to the classroom teacher. And I think that that so either I don't want to be the one that says to a parent, "Your kid can't read this book." There are mature topics in the

book. I recognize that. That's why we've been debating this for months. If we are going to abide by the 14th amendment, which says that parents control the ma and manage their kids' education, then let them control and manage their kids' education. That's what it says and and that's what you we have advocated for that and talked about

that. So, let's thank you. Let's put this into effect. Okay, now it's okay. Now, it's my turn. And I can't get that horrible visualization of a woman tying up her husband urinating on him out of my mind. Like, that's pretty much what the book is descriptively describing. Um, imagine that in a child's mind. Um I um anyways

I I want people to know that I did have action item 35I on here and that is a consideration but I think the language needed to be word rewarded and that goes back to the board policy 5145 and I had the motion to notify parents or guardians of any instruction instructional content that they are aware of any current or future school coursework

or specific instructional content that may conflict with their sincerely hailed religious beliefs. Now, I've been told this is this needs to be work reworked, but um I just think that maybe we can come up with a solution as a board. Um it sounds like Dr. Kamroski that you were stating like maybe just notify the parents. Again, this is elective. No

student is going to be forced or required to take this class. So it is an elective that they sign up for. Can we somehow let the parents know what the content is so the parents can that's what so that's what that's what this was. It's a directive to put this in the syllabus letting the parents know that

there are mature andor controversial topics here you know and how specific do we want in the syllabus? Do we want page number this xyz? Well we do this in ELA with we do this in our English language. Isn't that correct? Dr. Vallet can you please speak? Yes, Mr. Barheim, that's actually correct. We already have a a quite lengthy document that we already

submit to parents with the syllabi that it does that class may pertain and it may have some specific content in it. So, we do notify parents that way that's already in existence. And in our meeting, Mr. Barham, with Mr. Bwag, we did talk about um for particular classes which may have some elective content such as this, increasing that language

and being more transparent with parents. Correct. Okay. So I think we we have a consensus that this book does have mature topics in it that some parents may not want their kids to be a part of. So So I need I need it very clear because I'm still not quite sure you what you read was so lengthy that I I have no idea

what you're saying. We want to just sit put it in the syllabus. That's it. No, if you read it again it's still gonna I I want it summarized. Are we are we are you suggesting that we put it in the syllabus or do we want an opt-in for parents or is that not an option? If you put if they are required

to sign a syllabus they are if they read if a parent reads the syllabus they are going to see that this text contains mature and or controversial topics. That means if you care about that, you are going to open up the book and you're going to take a look for yourself and Okay. I have a recommendation. Yeah. Can

I We're not decided. Maybe push this to the next meeting. Two pivotal questions. One is we flag everything and say parents, you want your kids to do it, it's on you. Sign a consent form. The other one is to ask the question, does this make us a better district to have this material at all? Maybe we meditate

on that and come back as a board. I'm of the latter. I don't think it makes us a better district to have this. There's sex, tourism, there's all kinds of other stuff in here I didn't even mention. So, I second the second motion to push this just because we do have um quite a few things to get through the agenda. Um so

um Joseph, I'm assuming that you're motioning to postpone this to the July meeting. I second that. Um, is there anyone that opposes? Can we bring this up? Okay, so there's it's unanimous. The motion to postpone. Oh, wait. Is there a time limit that we need to uh adhere to, Joe? So, the only the only issue that would come up with

I think right now the risk is no book or we postpone it and have a late book. So um I have a second um do we need to call roll or do we want to take cons just have consent? Okay. So there's a consensus that we're going to um no postpone this till the um July. We'll push it back for the 10th time. For the

10th time. We'll push it We'll push it back. Keep pushing it back. Well, this one tough. I mean, I'm a parent. This is hard. And And we're trying. We're I think that this board has learned we're we're not going to just say no to the book. We're looking for solutions rather than book bands and curriculum bands. We're saying, is there other options?

So, I don't want to. The next item is um 15. I move one second. Yeah. Can we just let parents know that the book is available at the district office? If they're contemplating that their child is going to take sociology, they can come to the district office. And we had a Greg, I'm sorry to answer your question, but it's at the district

office. You can come and look at it at any time. And the parents whose kids are taking the class can come look at it also. I think that's an excellent call to parents, Mr. Schwarz, in the meantime. Yeah. Okay. I move let's move on to item 15. I move to approve the following textbook for use in CSCR 100

CSCR502 encore strategies for success in college career and life by Skip Downing and Jonathan Brennan publisher Sengage. Do I have a second? Second. Does anyone oppose? The motion is adopted unanimously. I move to approve the updated expanding learning opportunities program plan for the 2526 school year. Do I have a second? Second. Does anyone oppose? No one opposes. So the motion is adopted

unanimously. I move to approve the CEA TV memorandum of understanding April 24th, 2025 account. Account clerk 3, accounting specialist, assistant bookkeeper, bookkeeper I- high school revisions, and revised job descriptions pending CSE ratification. Do I have a second? Will you second that? Second. Does anyone oppose? There's no opposition. So, the motion passes unanimously. I move to approve CSEA TVUSD memorandum

of understanding June 6, 2025 2025-2026 adopted work year calendar for athletic trainers pending CSSE ratification. Do I have a second? Second. Second, just uh for information, um we only changed the year of the the work year for the athletic trainers as an accommodation to uh the practice schedule so that they would be Nicole, correct? So that they

would be available when the kids were practicing rather than working a whole month where there were no athletic events. So it doesn't change anyone's working conditions, but it's there so that they're for the kids when they're practicing. Is there anyone that opposes There's no opposition, so the motion is adopted unanimously. I move to approve the CSEA TVUSD memorandum of

understanding May 30th, 2025 safety vests for noonday aids and safety aids. Does anyone oppose or I'm sorry, do I have a second? Does anyone oppose? There's no opposition, so the motion is adopted unanimously. I move to approve the athletics stipen update memorandum of understanding between Tmacula Valley Unified School Districts and the Tmacula Valley Educators Association. Do I have

a second? Second. Does anyone oppose? There's no opposition. Point of clarification. Um there's a missed a typo on the topic sheet. The total cost of this is $8,835 plus labor related costs. So, it's not going to cost as much as um originally projected on the topic sheet. So, I just wanted to mention that. And I do have a

question before we officially vote. Okay. Um Dr. Woods, can I ask Mrs. Lash a quick question? Absolutely. Okay. Thank you. So, we had a conversation earlier in terms of stipens and talking about negotiations, that type of thing. I know there were some people who had questions tonight in terms of how that works and specifically for stunt. Would this be a

place where you could answer any of that? I know Mr. Arce is king and um you know has insight there that could be really helpful, but would this be a place for any mention um with that particular topic or not? I just want to be sure we're trying because we've got some great people that are passionate about it. Yeah. So this

is a negotiated item and so if it's a priority to discuss the girl stunt uh from and we get direction from the board to explore that as we move forward in those negotiations, we're happy to agendaize that for a future uh conversation with TVEA. Um and I'm just trying to represent uh some of the negotiation process as best I can in Mr.

Arce's absence. Um but I I think we could agendaize that for a future meeting if that's the board's uh direction. Okay. I'd just like to add it is a pretty complex process and they look at case law and all kinds of things, but if that's the board's desire, then uh we certainly can bring it up at the table with the committee.

Thank you. All right. Um does anyone oppose this motion? There's no opposition, so the motion is adopted unanimously. We're number 21. I move to approve the dual enrollment teaching assignment memorandum of the understanding between TVUSD and the Tmacula Valley Valley Education Association. Do I have a second? Second. Does anyone oppose? There's no opposition. So, the motion passes unanimously. I move to approve

the first amendment to the slide letter of agreement regarding TVEA vice president release between Tmacula Valley Unified School District and the Tmacula Valley Educators Association. Do I have a second? Is anyone Does anyone oppose? No one opposes. So the motion is adopted unanimously. I move to approve the elementary special education case management time memorandum of understanding between TVUSD and TVA. Do

I have a second? Second. Does anyone oppose? There's no opposition. So the motion passes unanimously. I move to approve the 2025-26 certificated salary schedules and stipened extra duty schedules effective July 1st, 2025. Do I have an second? Second. I move to provide notice to conduct a required public hearing regarding such formation and authorization of special tax and bonded

indebtedness. Do I have a second? Second on this one. Um, you will have opposition from me. Uh, just to keep it short, too, cuz for time sake, items 25 through 33, I'll be voting no on all these, be consistent with my last vote. And for the community, I am firm on this, but I am not fixed. Okay. So, I'm just letting the board

know. Thank you for that clarification. Okay. So, um, Len, please call roll. Schwarz, yes. Rema, no. Kamaroski, no. Barham, yes. Anderson, yes. The motion is adopted 3 to two. Okay. These are public hearings in this board of education's proceedings for community facil facilities district number 2025-1. The hearings are to inquire into one, the formation of a CFD, the levy of

special taxes in the CFD, and the need to incur bonded indebtedness in the CFD to finance the cost of certain proposed facilities. We have been presented with the boundary map of the CFD. Does anyone wish to file written protests? If so, they must be filed with the clerk now. All right. Approval to adjourn from the regular session to open public hearing in this

governing board's proceedings. I move to approve adjourning from the regular session to open public hearings in the governing board's proceedings for formation of the district's community facilities district number 2025-1 and for the issuance of bonded and other debt. Do I have a second? Second. Len, please call ro. Schwarz, yes. Wema, no. Koski, no. Barham, yes. Anderson, yes. The motion is adopted

three to two. I move to conduct the required public hearing regarding such formation and authorization of special tax and bonded indebtedness. Do I have a second? Second. Len, please call ro. Schwarz, yes. Wersma, no. Kamroski, no. Barham, yes. Anderson, yes. The motion is adopted 3 to two. The hearings are now officially open to have orderly hearings. We will

first have presentations by the STA staff about the CFD. After that, we will receive comments and questions and any oral protests from any interested persons. When all comments have been received, the hearing will be closed. Dr. Woods introduces the item. Well, it speaks for itself. So, the hearing is open if there's any opposition. I move that the board close the public

hearing regarding the proposed CFD number 2025-1, including the proposed levy of special taxes and authorization of bonded indebtedness and return to a regular session. Do I have a second? Second Len Schwarz. Yes. Wearsma not present. Kamroski. No. Barham. Yes. Anderson. Yes. The motion is adopted 3 to one and one not present. The public hearing is now closed. The

board may now ask questions and discuss the CFD. When the discussion is through, the board considers and adopts the following resolutions. these. Can we bundle these? I don't know if we can. Let's bundle these. I don't think we can. You don't think so? No. I move to adopt resolution number 20242541, which establishes community facilities district number 2025-1, the CFD, and

authorizes the levy of special taxes with the CFD subject to approval of the qualified electors in the CFD and calls a special election. Do I have a second? Second. Schwarz, yes. Where's Smith's not present? Kamaroski, no. Barham, yes. Anderson, yes. The motion is adopted. Three to two. Dr. Anderson, which one are we on now? What number? Number 30. Okay.

They're flying by so fast. It helps if you give us the Okay, I'll start saying number 30. Number 30 is I move to adopt resolution number 202425-42 which declares the necessity to incur bonded indebtedness and community facilities district number 2025-1 in the maximum original principal amount of $5 million for the purpose of financing the cost of certain public

facilities and authorizes the issuance of bonds subject to the approval of the qualified electors of the CFD. Do I have a second? Second. Schwarz, yes. Wersma, no. Kamaroski, no. Barham, yes. Anderson. Anderson, oh, sorry. That's great. Yes. Um, the motion is adopted 3 to two. I move to adopt resolution number 202425-43 calling for a special landowner election

in community facilities district number 2025-1 on the issue of the levy of the special tax the incurring of bonded indebtedness and the establishment of the appropriations limit do I have a second second lenz yes no to taxes kamroski no for him. You don't understand. Guys, just say yes or no. You guys just say yes or no. Um,

yes. The motion is adopted. Three to two. What are we up to? We are now at this time. I ask the clerk to open the ballots and announce the results of the election. I am in receipt of one ballot and the vote is yes. The ballot measure passes by the required twothirds vote. Go ahead. Yeah. Yeah. The results of the election.

The results of the election being unanimously in favor of the levy of the special taxes, the establishment of the appropriations limit, and the incurring of bonded indebtedness, we may now proceed with the final actions for the CFD. I move to adopt resolution number 2024-25/44 declaring the results of a special landowner election in community facilities district number 2025-1

on the issues of the levy of the special tax the incurring of bonded indebtedness and the establishment of appropriations limit. Do I have a second? Second Schwarz. Yes. Wema no Kamroski no Barham yes Anderson yes and if I can make a brief comment um please just the we've already taken role so the motion passes three to two the board will now consider

the introduction of an ordinance levying taxes in the CFD. This is often called the first reading of the ordinance. The board will consider adoption of the ordinance, sometimes called the second reading, at our meeting of July 22nd. Is it 22nd or 24th? 22nd, 2025. I move to introduce the ordinance and wave the reading of the ordinance in

full. Do I second? Schwarz, yes. No. Kamoski, no. Barham, yes. Anderson, yes. The motion is adopted 3 to two. Thank you everyone. That completes tonight's proceeding related to the community's community facilities district. Number I action item number 34. I move to approve the amendment to employee agreements for assistant superintendent educational support services business support services human resources

development and student support services between TV USD and Dr. Kimberly Vez, Nicole Lash, Francisco Arce, and Nicole Deis. Second. Len Schwarz. Yes. Wearsma. Yes. Kamroski. Yes. Barham. Yes. Anderson. Yes. The motion is adopted unanimously. All right. Um, we've got two more things. We've got parental notification. C. So we removed number C. We removed number I. Number I was um

related to the book. So we can come back to that one. Um we have I I think it would be better because we already had all of this on the previous agenda and we've discussed it many times. Um if anyone wants to start with A and asking questions or making comments. So number A, student record changes. The amendment is

on the agenda and the amended language is in blue. I hope it's still in blue. Yeah. I I think that we need to consider one of the community members comments on this in terms of maybe adding an AR to this to this policy. But I want to ask a question first. Um Dr. Valz or Mrs. days. Who makes this?

Does the does the counselor or the registar make make the uh make the records change? Oh, yeah. Dr. Woods, could we ask Mrs. Das to help us explain this? Yes. Thanks for asking. Sorry, Dr. Woods. That's okay. The records change for an official records change has to go through a process including our registar. The records change for an unofficial records

change which could occur in infinite campus where it's visible by teachers or administrators can happen with our registar in our counseling office. So the student would go directly to the registar if they wanted to make make a change to their unofficial record. They could go to the registar, they could go to a counselor, they could go to anal

team member. Okay. Okay. Um yeah, go ahead and ask. Can you explain the current process um if a student were to want to make an unofficial record change of their name? Uh the current process is that they go to the administrator or the counselor and uh make that request and then the records in that unofficial capacity will

be changed in infinite campus. Um and the infinite campus changes are currently and have been viewable and accessible by parents. So, if I'm a parent and I'm logging into my students Infinite Campus account, I'm privy to any changes that have been made in there as access to their student records. Yeah. No, I I I just want to make a

comment because I think maybe we need some kind of an AR to this because I'm in favor of the policy of the automatic email being but I'm not in favor of you know what's going to happen if you do this and your parents are going to find out. I don't think I'm in favor of that. Okay. So I

want to clarify right now if a student makes an unofficial records change to their infinite campus that is currently visible to the parents. Yes, it is. How would this change that process? the the process as it's changed according to this language is that there's an active step in there of a notification that goes to the parents versus me as a parent going into IC and

seeing the change and the notifications that exist in Infinite Campus. Okay. I want to also add that this language currently we have discussed and need to establish an infrastructure for what this looks like in infinite campus because this has been going through stages of reading an exploratory stage hasn't gone through for what I see has the capacity to do. So in terms of what

it actually looks like I can't tell you but currently I can log in and I would see all those changes. Okay. So, so at this time I just want to clarify to the public that if a student goes in and changes their record and makes an unofficial record change that's visible to the parent already. And what if the

student does not want their parent to know that they are unofficially changing their name? How do we handle that as a district? The student has the right legally to be asked to call be called a different name um to be asked to be identified as a different gender already without there being any unofficial record change. That law exists. If it goes into Infinite

Campus, we allow the student the knowledge that this would determine uh parental notification because the law uh supports under FURPA the parents having access to the student records. An unofficial change is accessible and will be made available to families and parents. So there's two different ways they can do it. But the actual change in the record where they'll see their name

differently on a roster for example because that's the name they prefer to be called that would be something it is visible from the parents through their login for IC notified necessarily. I have a couple questions. So with the notification is that a notification through infinite campus that they'll see a check or something where oh I've got a

message or is it a separate email alto together? I think that that's what has to be established through the approval of the updated language with this of what that would look like. Um, I'm not an infinite campus expert in terms of how we go about that notification, but currently if I log in or print out my students

schedule or print out my students attendance, I would see a name change on there. And parents have always had access to that. Okay. So, I know Mr. Evans had some thoughts with this and he's not here tonight. So, I'll look forward to seeing how that continues forward. Just for the record, I want to say I do prefer a phone call. Josh, I

agree with you in the sense of, you know, I think there are some things that merit a call and I think we've seen that other districts are going to do that. However, this is something in addition to. So, I'm going to hope we keep moving forward. I'll echo that sentiment. So, you guys want to go first or it's getting late.

Um, I echo the sentiment and I thank Mrs. Dis for making it clear that parents have always had access to that and I believe that that's a parental right and I'm going to want the parental notification so that they're notified that there is a change as well. ARS that Chino provided, but this is different though because this is an email

notification sent through Infinite Campus. They did not do that part. Correct, Mrs. Versma? I mean, you worked on this a little bit more than me with the AR background. Are you asking if they do an email notification? I know they prioritize a phone call and discussion. I don't know if they back it up with an email or not, so I'm unsure.

I'm with the phone call because I think the parents deserve that. But I'd still vote for this even if it was an email notification. I just prefer a phone call because some parents don't check emails. I mean, I talked to it's a reality. Yeah, I'm going to So, I I did discuss this with legal as we were going through

and um they recommended not adopting the um Chino policy as it's written and that they would advise doing the um automatic email notification instead and that was their opinion. Do you want me to talk? Um I was talking with the attorneys at AARR. Dri and the same the same attorney that's working on all of our parental notifications and they were recommending

an email notification rather than a phone call. That was a verbal confirmation when I said we've got two options. Adopt Chino language or do the email and it was advised that we do the email. I think there's some concerns. We don't want to get involved with any perb. Yeah. Can you send that to the board with concrete information from

them so we all have that? um on record. So, do you guys want to pull this item and put it on next month? That's my question. No, I don't. No, I want to adopt it now. But I am with Mrs. Worma. We should get an email notification when you talk to so that we have that in writing because that's been the practice

and that's been the policy. That should happen. What's been the policy? We need to give him a summary. Oh, a summary. Yeah. Okay. And that But I wanted to say as well, I mean, and I want to speak after Yeah. Not only I mean you you spoke you spoke to the attorney but I also you know after we talked about

Chino I went back to the staff and said okay let's really flush this out and the opinion from the staff was there are very gray areas in the chino policy which could get us perbed. So you know and I and I want to say this too because I'm I'm not I'm not about and we've talked about this polling policies. You know how I've

explained to you how I work. But I do want to say that I appreciate the work that these other districts have done. But the results of all of that have been as we've as we've picked policies out from from the ones who have spearheaded this, we've been sued and we've been perbed. And it's like and that's why I I would

prefer to try it this way. I I don't know what's going to happen here. I mean, because even when you get advice from an attorney, it's like it's not battle tested. Even when you get advice from an attorney, it's like so we're but I would say let's I would like to try our own policies. That's what I would

like to do. Okay. So with this item a does anyone want to pull this? If not, let's vote. Then I'm going to make a motion to approve. Can I just speak for a second? Mr. Schwarz. Thank you. kind of go back and forth on this and and I go back to being a parent and a grandparent and uh having heard what other parents

in the community say. Um yeah, it's really nice to know what your kids are doing, but if you're an involved parent, you know what your kids are doing and this could put kids in danger. This could put kids in danger. And that's the negative part of this. The positive part is that parents should know what their kids are doing. But the

negative part is if a kid doesn't want his parent to know, this could be dangerous to them. This could get them thrown out of their house. This could get them banished. So, you know, I really don't know how I'm going to vote on this because it's way too sided. there are too many pluses and too many minuses for me and um ju just

the way it is now and I I take what our parents in the audience have said that this could be really dangerous for some children. So okay, thank you Mr. Schwarz. Um I always say vote your principles and your conscience. I would never call the question question that. Um I I I'm going to do this one at a

time then. I motion to approve the amended AR5125 student records change. Do I have a second? Second. Len Schwarz, no. Weisma, yes. Kamaroski, yes. Barham, yes. Anderson, yes. The motion is adopted 4 to one. Um, the next one is freedom of speech and expression. I I support this uh policy except for I think we need to strike at the bottom.

Scroll down to the bottom. No, no, it's up. It's I think we need to strike parent guardian written permission will be required for a student to leave class or campus to participate because that I I I do not believe that's constitutional. That's actually was that was actually removed by the this this is not the correct draft if it has that

because um Dedricch said that he that needed to be removed. So, I don't know why that was up there, but we need to start. This is not the current. So, why don't we um postpone? No, we need to postpone this till July. We need to postpone it till July and make sure we have the correct language that the

attorneys recommended. Do I have a second? Um we have a I motion to postpone policy 5145, freedom of speech and expression till the July um meeting. Do I have a second? Second. Does anyone oppose postponing this? Otherwise, it's good. Yeah, the I know that specifically that um that Mr. Dedric had that language taken out. So, this has to be

incorrect. And Dr. Anderson, if you scroll down to the bottom Uhhuh. I have another concern. Yeah. This because this policy is not the one that this is not what was supposed to be on there. Can Can I resubmit this? Yeah. Because whatever your concern is could have been removed from Yeah. It's probably already removed, but I don't

like notifying the community where the students are at a given time. None of that was supposed to be on there. I have no idea how we got this one on there. Um, thank thank goodness someone's paying attention because I wasn't. Um, so we have a a a motion in a second. Does anyone oppose? Then the motion to remove

or to postpone um action item 35B passes unanimously. Next is um C we already moved. D assemblies we modified the language. Um Dr. Karaskki will you read through I think assemblies was your yours and ours. Yeah, assemblies was his. Yeah. Would you read through that language, Dr. Kamroski? Well, he should. Wait, is that one or who did assemblies with me? You have my

name. Yeah, I think I got the names are messed up. I didn't I didn't work. I don't remember discussing it. I read through it and went. No, no. You honestly it's been a big agenda and a long week. So, please just give me grace. I think this one was Dr. Kamaroski that we discussed it that the third party vendor can't come on the

campus. Oh, is it worse? I know, but when the title of it throws me off. I know it's the third party vendors like cousin Danny. Yeah. Give me a second here. You want to read the blue out loud? So, did you read this? Were you able to re Did anyone review parental rights notification before the meeting? No, I mean what he's

what he what he proposed is in there. I mean, I agree. It's it's what it's just basically saying we're going to on the website let any vendor that's going to come on the campus. We're going to let the parents know in five days. Yeah. This is what we talked about. It was easy. There's no need to read it out.

Easy peasy. Okay. So, but I will but I will add this though. on the previous item that um freedom of speech when you had your name on there. Mine should be on there. Me and Jen brought that. That one should be that one should be should be yours and I are. So, this is what I'm going to do for the next meeting. I'm

going to have Len send a proof out and make sure that we have that right so that we don't because I think I've messed up the names a little bit. Um okay. If there's no no objection to this language, I'm pretty sure this is the correct language. Then I motion to adopt. It's just all the names of um

information item 35D. Do I have a second? Second. Does anyone oppose? No. No one. Then the motion to adopt 35D passes unanim unanimously. Um, library and media centers. Did I get the right name on that one? You got the right thing, Dr. Kroski. Was this one yours? Library and Media Center. Yes, it was. Okay. It's getting late. This is a parental

right but not a parental notification on the on the one that we tried to advance back in August 22nd 2023. Mrs. Worse when I um basically it gives you gives the parents um on a monthly basis what's coming into that library. This is basically saying hey you guys have access you know figure it out in another language. I want a

notification. This is this is what we received and in kind this is what has come in so that they're alerted. So I say we move this off to the next meeting because there's no notification in here. Okay. I motion I I think we should pass it and then why don't you write an amendment for it? Well, it was it I mean my amendment is

to have a mechanism for parental notification a one on a monthly basis. I I just think I think that there's a point where we're we we're creating a lot of work and as parents we can like it's just like how at what point I I don't want to get to the point where the parents are going to not be listening to

us because we're sending email after email like hey we got this book you know pretty pink princess has been added to the library. It it's going to water it down. I mean the the the discussion that I recall we were having was a a parent can have access to the library at any time by appointment. That was the

discuss that was the discussion we had. This was not part of the discussion that we had at Yeah. But you didn't have the discussion I have with Dr. Anderson. We actually met in private to discuss these four items. Student protest in kind library donation. Um, the other one was, oh my gosh, there's four of them. Sorry, I haven't

printed out. Me and her specifically sat down and talked about these. So then my my recollection was my concern was the access to the libraries as presented on the previous agenda. The part that I modified was that we wanted to and this is what I added to clarify that parents have access to libraries but we needed to let them know that they couldn't just

come storm the schools and have access to the libraries that they needed to make. So I I'm going to motion that we um adopt this and then you can submit an amendment on the next um agenda with the language that that you feel like is important and we'll deate it. Do I have um you know that that language is on the

um I think it's the May 16th meeting. It's it's it's written already. You say have the language. Do you want to pull it up or have Len show it to you on the screen? It's one sentence. So, I I don't support sending emails every time we have a new book come into the library. I think we're going to water down our our

notification system if I mean, we probably have hundreds of books a year come into each and every but on a monthly basis. Hey, this library received this amount of books. Not every single one, but on this month, this is what we received. You're against that? So, I'm going to motion that we adopt this and then you can make that

amendment to it. Um, I motion that we adopt I don't I'm not opposed to what you're saying, but we need to just amend it. I'm trying to get through. Um, amend we adopt the amendment to board policy 6163.1 library media centers. Do I have a second? Second. I have one question before we vote. Can you guarantee that

that will come back? I you've expressed your opinion, but my vote is going to be contingent upon that because we have a great technician. I know the system in the libraries are stellar. So, they track all of those things pretty easily. It could be an Excel form. It could be something that we already keep. I'm not opposed to it. Len, will you add that to

the next agenda? Thank you. I have consensus to add that to the next agenda. Um, Len, please call role when you're done adding that to the next agenda. Schwarz, yes. Wema, yes. Koski, yes. Barham, yes. Anderson, yes. The motion is adopted unanimously. um suicide prevention. Dr. Karaskki, I think you pointed out that there wasn't a specific timeline. So, in this one, I

I added the three days. We had most of the language that you had. Um this is not have superintendent. That's a different one. This is the suicide prevention. We didn't have a an official. It just said we'll notify and your policy that you submitted had um like 3 days. So, we added that language. Is there any other No, no. So that okay

just to just to back up are you referring to the placentia yorbalinda mental health policy? No this is suicide prevention. Okay on the placenta yorbalinda is that coming I mean me and you met specifically on that is placenta yor your belinding and the difference in the language that they had and we had was we did not we had almost identical

language but we did not have a time frame in which parents would be notified. So we because it was so similar we just took the suggestion I think you had three day they had three days within 3 days we could say immediately um what let's see do you want to change that to as soon as possible so what

you're saying is the potential or meinda policy is being conflated with this one that that's a you're not bringing that forward is what you're saying you're because these are two different policies I actually have a breakdown and I can read this all from my I looked through on the meeting two meetings ago when I compared their suicide policy and

ours we had a very similar policy except we didn't have and you and you and Mr. Barham were argu kind of debating this and I pointed out the difference is we don't have the 3-day notification. So theirs is a 24 hours. What else would you like to add 24 hours? Yes. Okay. Theirs is 24 hours and you can find that

in the previous agenda. So should we put let's amend it to say 24 hours? Yeah. And and to be clear theirs isn't just a suicide policy. It's a mental health policy. It can deal with anxiety, depression, many other things. Now, I did read through your language. I think I would be satisfied if it was a 24-hour notification. And to be clear, can you

pull that up, please, for us, Len? Which one? Um, it's right there. F. It's right here. Oh my gosh. Sorry, my vision's so I won't even It's um It's the It's the part. Can you enlarge or Sorry, I'll go to it. It's the part that talks about the three-day notification. just it's in blue right there. And and we'll I I'll

make the motion and amend that to 24 hours or Yeah. Oh, because Okay. When I read this, I because me and you didn't talk about So, this is something I want to be clear. When I work with you and sit down with you, you're supposed to reciprocate. Hey, Joseph, I'm going to agendaize this. Are you okay with the

blue language? You agendaize it, but you didn't get back to me. Me and you met in private. So this is like hey um I made this decision hope you agree with it on the deas. I thought that we decided that so when I compared the two we compared the two. Yeah. So you're getting I compared then we compared but then it

was me and you and I'm just it's it's very convoluted. I I met with you and you said last board meeting that you would bring. Yeah. So, no. What do you guys want? What do you guys want to do? Do you want to do you want to amend this and move on or we already went through this? I was under

the impression that you were satisfied when I said you look at placential your Belinda and you look at Tmacula and we are almost exactly the same. We don't have a timeline of notification and you've had two months to compare our policy with placenta yorbalinda and then highlight and outline exactly what you want from placenta yorbalinda that we

don't already have because my perspective is they are very similar and what I could see we didn't have was a timeline. So I'm okay. Like I thought we were in agreement that the timeline for the suicide prevention and notice that we have not taken placenta yorbalinda. We've taken pieces of placenta yorbalinda that were missing in our board policy and amending our board

policy. So it's updated. If we just took their policy then we're going to have a lot of redundancy and a lot of confusion and there may be some conf conflicts. Um yeah. So, so I just want to know where are we going to go here? Are we going to pull this or what are we going to do? Well, I I what I wanted to say to

you and I understand you I understand where you're coming from with that placenta or Belinda. I promise you the language is exactly the words are exactly the same. It's already there outside of a timeline. We didn't have the timeline. Yes. I'm but I'm saying not gonna you know debate what I'm what I'm saying is I hope this

is a point well received with you Melinda when you want to work with me in a group you have to communicate with me hey Joseph you did not say any of what you just said in that meeting you should have and I would have said oh no problem let me compare policies you did not I thought that I did but you know some

things sometimes we just misunderstand each other so I move I move to adopt the agenda item 35 Five F with amended language of the principal or designate shall notify the student's parent/guardian within 24 hours of the incident. Do I have a second? Second. Len Schwarz. Yes. Wersma. Yes. Kamaskki. Yes. Barham. Yes. Anderson. Yes. The motion passes unanimously. And Dr.

Anderson, I just would like to make it clear. I appreciate the 24-hour notice, but an incident like this would be almost an immediate notification. I agree. And I just think having something having something in policy just lets the public know where I agree where where we stand on these serious matters. The next is the AR for suicide prevention.

I think this might be where there's additional language that you might have been looking at. Yeah. Dr. Anderson, I'm going to hand this to you and Emil. We've already voted, so I'm satisfied. Like the needle's been moved, but I'm going to let you know the differences, but we're beyond it. But I'm still going to show you this. Okay. Okay. And and

I'm I'm more than happy to we we should if you think this needs to be amended again, we should amend this again. Um Lenny. Okay. Here we go. We can amend this again. So, we're going to update this this AR to be reflective of the current board policy that we passed. So, I don't think we need to take

action. Um, Dr. Kamaraski where she's pulled it up. Um, if you want to just review it, we can make more amendments to this policy. The nice thing is on the agenda, you have the regulation 5141.52. So, if you want to cross reference it, I will not deny having any more amendments. We can amend this as much as

we want. If you feel like we need to tighten it up, will you please submit it for the next agenda? Um, the next one, this is the suicide one, right? Yeah, that's just the AR. If you want to add 24 hours. Uh-huh. That's it. 24 hours done. We need to um No, because it will or less. The or less. Yeah, the AR will

follow the policy. You'll just amend it. Um, healthcare and emergencies. This is, am I on the right one? Healthcare emergency and emergencies. Um, this is the this is more language from I think this is more language from Placentia or Belinda. Parents and guardians shall be notified as soon as possible following the incident and no later than one school day after

accident, injury or onset of illness. Is that is that also from Placentia your Belinda? That's what I thought like you pulled parts and distributed throughout on this because we had because we and that's where I think the confusion was is we had so much of the language that we took all of the strengths of placenta your belinda and just made sure that ours was

stronger. Yeah, I'm good with that. Okay, I'm good with this. So, does um I have a motion to um Oh, I'm on G. I skipped F. Okay. Oh, no, I didn't. Okay. So, I have a mo I motion to approve amended board policy 5141. Do I have a second? Second. Does anyone oppose? Then the motion to amend passes

unanimously. And then bullying. This was part of their healthcare, too. And we still there's still more. I mean, I had a list of 15. So, if you think that something's left out, it is because we're still got a few more things. The language on this one, just scroll to the blue. Yeah, we're on a roll. Um, we have three school days here. I

think that three, my opinion is three three school days is probably reasonable to just to make sure the staff has a a clear understanding of what happened. Sometimes the perpetrator is act actually the victim or something like that. But I'm open to any other suggestions if people want. I'm in alignment with this too because there's the factf finding process. I'm not sure

how long that goes. Uh Dr. Woods, can I call Mrs. Deas? Please do. Is is that reasonable? 3 days for the bullying because of the factf finding interviewing and everything that goes on behind the scenes. Yes, I appreciate the question. So two things. If you look through this board policy, which is really robust, there are already some

statemandated timelines that we have in there for when we have to report to administration. when an administration reports to home. But I think that the factf finding also comes in with the connection to the definition of bullying because sometimes it's a moment of disagreement. It's when we start getting into the definition that's outlined here that creates a little bit more of an

opportunity for us to investigate and this language emulates what our current practice is in terms of our efforts in parent communication and transparency. Um, I'd also like to highlight that we discussed a phone call shall be used because there's times when I think a phone call is essential and not an email notification. So, I don't think bullying, suicide is the kid coming home

and complaining. Yeah. Call mom and told her. Yeah. So, um I I motion to approve I have a discussion point. I'm sorry. Yes, Mrs. Um, so I appreciate talking about the bullying aspect and it does um pertain to this whole issue with parent notification. I just wanted to let you know um with Chino, they won with PERB

with a notification policy and just had to change one aspect and it had to do with bullying which they're going to be doing. So I just wanted to make that clear that their notification policy is is solid. Um, but that was something that they spoke to. So, I'm glad that we are looking at this. I just want to be

sure the right context is out there um with with the truth of what they're doing. And and I think that doing things a little bit different doesn't mean that one person did it right or wrong. Like we're just we're trying our best and and the reason that I again I'll go back to email is we want to avoid litigation and

per and this is good. Yeah. I'm grateful for your guys' support. I think we're all it's nice to see the board come together. So, I motion to amend um board um action item 35H, bullying. Second. Second. Do you mean do you mean approve or amend because you said amen? I think I'm sorry. Approve the amendment that we're adding language. Second.

Okay. Thank you. Um do we have anyone that opposes? Then the motion to approve the amended board policy 5131.2 bullying passes unanimously and then I was pulled. And so we're done with that. We are going to do um reorganization of Oh, can I make a brief comment? Yes. Do we want to make comments? Uh I removed that one

from the agenda. Oh, good. That one was removed. Um that's related to the book. That was just me trying to navigate a mature book. Um, so parental notification is done and thank God. Yeah. No, thank you. Thank you everyone. Um, Dr. Kamaroski, thank you for giving me grace and I'm okay if you point out the mistakes. I'm open to amendments.

Okay. Um, Mr. Barham, thanks for the many, many hours I mean that you spent going over all these policies with me and Mrs. Wearsman, I appreciate the time that you took and met me with me at the office as well so that we could all understand where we are headed on these different topics. And Mr. Schwarz, I mean contributed he

contributed because that's okay. What Mr. Schwarz, what you did is you gave us unanimous votes and I feel like that's really important for where we are. as a board with the community. Um there are some things I respect when you have to vote no and stand by your principles. Um but you've been very open-minded to a lot of these ideas. I always stand with

our principles even some of them are out in the audience. Yeah, principles. Okay, there we go. So, thank you, Mr. Schwarz. I I mean honestly you could have you could have came to parental rights and notification is like a wall and peace out but you you've been so willing to listen and let us go through this. No

and I it's just that I always see it as two-sided issue. Yes. Parent responsibility, parent notification. Someplace in the middle they meet and someplace in the middle they're far apart. And people need to know that like we might things might still need to be amended like if something comes up and an attorney call one of our general

counselors or Mr. DeMarco calls us or someone and they say like hey we need to change this language or this language is stronger. I think that we have to be open to further amendments. So I'm I'm open to your suggestions too. Can I get board consensus to meet with Dr. Woods and somebody from the library so that

next meeting I can act at least have some good verbiage from somebody who's trained like library staff. If you give me permission then I can easily work on something. I I present it to the board. Do we have board consensus? Thank you Dr. Kamaroski. Um Dr. Woods, are you okay arranging that? And then he can put something on the agenda. Thank you. Um,

so the last thing is I'm going to turn this one over to reorganization of subcommittees and we will have to take action. Do we want to do that at this meeting? Yes. All right then. I don't even know where I'm at in my script. I will say I'm going to remove myself from the board policy review. That was

uh Mrs. Worman and I did that a year and a half ago. We were being federally audited. We actually had to go through many policies and we did that with Huff. Somebody else can hop on that committee if they want, but I'll remove myself from that committee. So, let's start with that. We need to dissolve. We want to dissolve that.

Well, I'm open for that too. Yeah, we we let me tell you the reason we need to dissolve it because I think it was established in 2023 and you and Mrs. Wearsman were on the subcommittee. Um then you got recalled and there was never any action taken on that on that subcommittee and Mr. Schwarz stepped in to that without

any approval from the board at that time. You just stepped in if you recall. I do. And so we're kind of messed up there. So we need to dissolve it and then reestablish reestablish reestablish it. So I'm going to move that we dissolve the current board policy subcommittee. Um, do I have a second? I'll second it. Okay. Does anyone

oppose? Do you have Okay. Then the motion to dissolve the board sub board policy subcommittee passes unanimously. So I have a few. Okay. Um, uh, we don't we don't need to keep talking about the future meeting location because God, but I will say I like the other setup better than this one. I wanted to ask talking about another room or I don't like this

one but the the old school way of doing it on the wall. We don't need a we don't need a meet on we don't need to meet on second one is so let me I motion uh to Mr. Schwarz motions to dissolve the uh location of the school with Brian about it. Okay. Do I have a second? Yeah. Okay. Even though

we're not in committee. We could just talk about it with Brian. Second is um student board members. We have Let's dissolve each one. Where is that one? That's right. Board meeting and I second the dissolving of it. Okay. Does anyone oppose the motion to dissolve the future board meeting location? No one opposes. So the motion passes unanimously. We'll dissolve that

committee. Mr. Schwarz, what is your next student board members? We've elected a student board member. We we worked it out and I don't think we have to meet on it and talk about it anymore. Okay. I met with the student board member and she and I discussed her amending the policy. Um so she would like to submit her duties. Um she might

sit in for a little bit before she she decides like and then she'll present it to the board and we can debate it. So I second the motion to dissolve the student board members committee. Um does anyone oppose? No one opposes. So, the motion to dissolve student board members passes unanimously. And the last one is ethnic studies. Um, I was at CSBA legislative

committee on Friday. Um, the legislature has not uh passed an ethnic studies bill. Um, they decided it is not a graduation requirement. They're not funding it and it's not required. So right now we don't need to do anything until it comes back into vogue. Mrs. Wma, that was our hesitation from the beginning even though we wanted to work

on it gung-ho and then we stalled it. So I'm in agreement. That was our foundational statement right from the beginning. What we So we have a second and that's a second. So there was a motion to dissolve ethnic studies and a second. Does anyone oppose? But I will say go VAPA. Okay. Get those two. Vapa. Yeah. Go. So the ethnics um it passes

unanimously to dissolve ethnic studies. I did have a question for Steve. Yeah. Within that particular meeting, did they give a trajectory or did it seem pretty nebulous that there was no timetable, no future plans, no dates given because of what's going on with the budget and the money, the Prop 98 money being cut by, I'm not sure right now,

it's maybe 1.2 two billion or 1.5 billion where the go the governor is going to put it in a rainy day fund and give it to us at some time. So a lot of the things that might have been funded are not going to be funded. So, uh, they just didn't want to they didn't the the thing with CSBA legislative is if

they're not going to give us money to do things and we're going to have to pay for it and take it away from somewhere else, we're not going to support it unless it becomes a if it's a requirement for graduation, then it's a different story. But right now, it's it's just there as a an idea. It'll probably come back around. So whatever

whatever work was done on the committee that's great we hold it and and if we get a point where we can implement it we will but right now um there's no money and no requirement for it. Okay perfect then um is there any other sub committees? I'm going to make a motion to form a board policy subcommittee with

you and me because we have a ton of work to do with all of these policies backed up with Len to to we have to we have to deal with it, right, Len? Yes. Yes. See, it's it's I mean, it's just it's a massive amount of policies that we're behind. The new board policy subcommittee will be updating with the

recommended CSBA language. what you what I think it's going to be a lot of what you and um Mrs. Wearsman did in the past and then we'll just make a change of guard. Does anyone oppose that? So, there's been a motion to form a new board policy subcommittee with Mr. Barham and um Dr. Anderson. Do I have a

second? Second. Does anyone oppose? Then the motion passes unanimously. Is there any other suggestions? public general public comments. How many general public comments? Six general public comments. Didn't we cover those prior? Those were action items. Got it. It was the same number. Six. Um, first up is David Zola, followed by Michael Davis. Good evening. Disagreement is part of the democratic

process. It sharpens ideas, exposes blind spots, and helps us serve this community better when it's done in good faith. But that's not what we're seeing all the time. We saw it tonight and we see how productive meetings can be when we actually take the time to listen to other perspectives and actually get policies that some people have been

working on for years across the finish line with some community input. What we see most of the time is performative outrage, theatrics dressed up as leadership, a refusal to engage in any dialogue that doesn't result in total validation of their worldview. You don't want discussion, you want domination. And when you don't get it, you resort to silence, sabotage, or

personal attacks. I spent my life in service. 20 years in uniform, three deployments to places where apparently the religion makes you blush. And now years working to support students with special needs across the country. I try to show up prepared because our students deserve no less. Contrast that with those who treat a few hours a weekend reading as contribution.

Or those who never completed their own commitments to service but lecture others on what sacrifice and patriotism look like. Or those who shake hands in public but ignore emails, skip briefings, and have nothing to say in the room where the work actually happens because they quit when things get hard. Leadership is not about posing for pictures or delivering zingers on social

media. It's about doing the work. All of it. Not just the parts that get applause. Our students and teachers can't afford this culture of shallow posturing. They need adults who can model respect, resilience, and readiness. If you're more interested in virtue signaling and counseling people than collaborating with them, this board and this community deserve better. Finally, the arbiter of values for the

community. That sounds next, Michael Davis. Thank you for letting me share with you one more time. This may be something that's already on your agenda and something you're already processing many times that I come forward. I'm I'm normally here to advocate for LGBTQIA+ siblings, but I want you to start thinking about something else over the summer as you move back into the new

school year as the idea of marginalized students continues to grow, especially our very afraid students that deal with immigration fears. There is so much that has been seen of students taken from schools, principals having to stand outside of schools to block access from ICE agents. And we're kind of in this pause time in the summer break that would allow all of our

higherup leaders to start processing, as we shared earlier, how to care for every student. things that we need to do as a school board, as parents, as teachers that will protect afraid students who are afraid to come to school because of their skin color and the perception of who that they are. We see frequently and we hear accounts

so many times of legalized persons that have been abducted by ICE agents and that reaches into their families. So, as we're in this time and you already care for so much, I really do want to give you one more thing to process in the carover is as this process, as it begins, as it amps up, maybe it'll slow

down, who knows? But this is a level of conversation that we need to be having for truly every student. I share the lives of the students that are afraid to come out and how their parents may react. These are students that truly exist outside of any control of what they're dealing with. Many of their siblings, their parents, their aunts and

uncles have been taken because of their skin color. And I just ask for you to process that as well over this summertime. Thank Thank you for letting me share that with you. Josh Sherling followed by Greg Langworthy. I'm not a doctor. Not a surprise. I don't understand things to a great deep level, but I will I've learned something

recently I want to share with you guys. Um it's about trans so we can know get our heads right. Um in uterus your genitals start developing at 9 weeks. Your brain development for gender is at 18 weeks. So in rare cases, because it's pretty rare to be trans, something happens between week nine and week 18. That's where it comes from. They're born

this way. If you believe in God, you believe that they were knitted in the womb this way. God made them this way. So I see trans rights that are as civil rights. This isn't a new category. It's the same thing that we've seen before. When black students fought for equal schools, it was called disruptive. When women demanded to vote, they were told

to wait. When gay Americans wanted to marry, people called it a threat to tradition. Sound familiar? In every case, the message was the same. You have rights, but only if they don't make us uncomfortable. That's what trans students are hearing now. They're being told, "You could exist, but only under your legal name. You can transition, but only with a

court order. You can be respected, but only if your parents approve. This is not equality. That's conditional humanity. And let's be clear, supporting trans students doesn't mean we're hurting girls. The idea that transinclusionist sports erases girls is a false choice. We don't need to exclude anyone to protect opportunity. We need we need better support for all girls, not just

scapegoats. Civil rights don't depend on comfort, consensus, or convenience. They're about protecting people, especially when it's hard. We don't need to create new rights for trans students. We just need to stop denying them the ones that everyone else already gets. Thank you. Thank you, Greg Langworthy, followed by Melanie. So, uh, I'd like to, uh, start by giving

a, you know, we had this little discussion about the sociology book. Well, as a English teacher, I was often faced with choosing a textbook. Sometimes those selections in the literature book were not at all good for the students. So what did I figure out as a workaround? I would select novels, literature according to what I thought would be best for the students, chose a

grammar book and then develop my own curriculum. I don't know if that would work for this sociology question, but it definitely worked for for English. So that was one suggestion. Uh the other thing I I do uh appreciate the the discussion tonight. I've got all sorts of notes. So you guys really make me think as you're having these

discussions. Um I think and I've said this before, I think you're modeling constitutional government. What's constitutional government? You got a lot of people with different ideas trying to bring them together, different personalities. You've got emotions, but you've got to take all the emotions and harness them under law. Respect for each other. Uh listen, um kind of uh take a

deep breath, be patient, and and I can see all that happening. And it's not easy. So, I'm not I'm going to give you guys credit. It's always tougher when you're up there and everyone's watching you and then they may write down and put on social media or whatever what you did wrong. So, you're willing to take the

pressure. you're willing to have the discussion. Look at all the the uh uh progress you made tonight on parental rights. You know that you guys really are being an example for other boards that these things can be done. Oftentimes are avoided because they don't want the difficult discussions, but you're having the difficult discussions. Sometimes they're sparks are flying, but that's part of the

process because you're willing to have these discussions. So, I think you're modeling a good example for students that this is how we work things out in a constitutional republic. Um, we elect representatives to represent our views. You argue vigorously for your views and then you vote and that's how you have consensus. So, anyway, just like to congratulate you on the meeting tonight

and the progress that you're making. Dr. Woods. I want to thank you. I had my previous comments and I I came in really hot and I I brought you into that. But when I had been doing all of this research, looking into Chino and it it resurfaced stuff, I had to go through our old emails and I thought about all

our phone conversations and it kind of brought me down memory lane when you came in here and the first thing you did was you called me like your first week here and you said, "I absolutely want to meet with your kids. I want you to bring me the LGBTQ kids and I want to have that conversation and I want to know

what they're going through. And you did. And you sat there and the kids were crying and and you said the truth to them, the hard truth. And you got an ugly policy and you did the best you could. And I did not like it and I came at you hard. and you still answered me respectfully every single time.

You have had to deal with awful lawsuits. You've had to deal with with this tumultuous school board. And you are still here. You are still showing up. You're still here for our students. And I still get the best emails from you. I know I came in hot right now, but I just wanted to say thank you for

for showing up for us and and thank you for everything you're still doing for our kids. good evening. I have two stories. Hope I hopefully I can get through both. Um in uh we're talking a lot about sports in 100 years ago in 1925 there was a woman named Gertrude Adurl who attempted to cross the English Channel and but she could not complete

it because she was like her coach her saying is her coach could not do it. So she he had somebody touch her so she couldn't complete it the first time. She didn't play the victim like you know oh my chance was taken away from me or what happened to me. She went back, she trained with Bill Burgess, another

person. She came back next year and she beat the men's record by two hours. She crossed the English Channel and she beat the record by two hours and that record held for a pretty long time. So if any fifth place swimmer ever tells you like, you know, athletes always work towards bettering their own record. All good athletes. That was my first story. The

second story is from last summer. I took my daughter to Central High in Little Rock right after the recall election so she could understand what was the problem with the CRT resolution. That was rescended today. I learned quite a bit that day and I would like to share some of it right now. In 1957, 3 years after schools were ordered to

desegregate, 15-year-old Elizabeth Ecford walked alone to Central High School in Little Rock. Her family didn't have a phone, so she never got the message not to go alone. A mob was waiting. They hurled slurs. They threatened to lynch her. She later said, "I tried to lo see a friendly face somewhere in the crowd, someone who maybe could help. I looked at the face

of an old woman and she seemed a kind face. But when I looked at her again, she spat on me. Even surrounded by hate, Elizabeth looked to the adults for decency, and they failed her. We learn history so we do not repeat it." Elizabeth hurried towards a bench where Grace Lorch, a teacher, inserted herself between the mob and Elizabeth and

shouted, "Stop! She's just a child." The echo of history was heard in Tmacula outside the CRT workshop where people had to insert themselves between a grown man yelling at a young girl. We have grown adults that travel to youth sports events to bully a transgender athlete in the name of protecting girls sport as they want to go down in the right side

of history. Anyone who thinks this morally reprehensible behavior is acceptable needs to reexamine their life choices as this is not protecting kids that's targeting them. I ask you this question today if it were 1957 in Little Rock where would you have stood with the mob or quietly and courageously beside the child like Grace Lord the woman who

shielded Elizabeth and her family was harassed so badly that she had to flee to Canada? We are still writing history. Let's choose a better path where every child knows that the adults in the room will stand up for them when it matters the most. Thank you. Thank you. Ne. Next we have board comments. Mrs. where would you like to start with

board comments? We can go out of order if you're not ready. You'll go out of order. Um I will need a point of priv personal privilege. So, can I start? Can I start? Okay. Um I just wanted to clarify a few things. I wasn't going to make any board comments, but um I wanna I want to just point out

some of the um language in our revised policy and why I think this is such a win is because um somebody was mentioning that they felt like we I we were targeting um certain groups of students, but the religious accommodation is for families that want privacy. It's not to um single out any any certain group. So if

if you read if you read the language, there's um one statement that says this approach reflects California's legal commitment to affirm the rights and dignity of all students, including those who are transgender and gender non-conforming. And then um we were really careful making sure that when we worded the AR, let me pull it up, that we didn't single

out any students. And so, um, we have two groups. We have accommodation groups and we have the general population. So, if you're not requesting an accommodation to dress um in a in a same-sex environment versus a mixeduse space, um then then that that's one group, the accommodation group. The other group is the general population, and that is everyone else.

And that's all you need to know. It's everyone else. We don't have to highlight like who's in that population or who's not. We we've said that we have mixeduse spaces and the parents should all know we have mixeduse spaces and we have these policies divide the accommodation into two groups. Families that whose students may want um privacy

and then everyone else. So I I just think that that's important that you note that everyone else is everyone else and we don't have to make a list of who everyone else is. And this policy is just answering to community members who weren't quite sure and also giving direction to um site administration administrators when they're not quite

sure how to how to um follow up with a request for uh religious accommodation. Um I think that's a win for both sides. But again, that's my opinion. Um, and that was the only clarification I wanted to make is that we're not trying to single out anyone with these policies. Mr. Schwarz, yeah, I'll be real quick. It's uh I

already missed the overunder. 9:30 is the overunder. It's going to cost me a few bucks, but it's well worth it. Uh, I did get to go to summer school um the other day. Is Joe still here? Bowwig? No, he left. Uh, Joe Bowwig is the principal of summer school. Uh, I went with Nicole Deis. We visited um kids who were doing credit recovery.

We did visited kids who were doing advanced classes. We visited our ESY kids, kids who get extended school year. And it was an amazing amazing Oh, my friend Kelly's out there. Hi, Kelly. Kelly Ort is one of our great special ed teachers and Drew is over there too. Hi Drew. I saw the both of them there at

Chaparel. Um if you get a chance go visit it is just amazing to see what goes on in the teachers volunteer to do summer school. They don't have to but the things that were going on were really amazing. The second thing I want to talk about is but we have to start improving our schools and without a new

uh bond measure from the state because all the measure Y money is gone. We need the money to improve our schools. We want them to be safe. We want them to be up to-date and we want our kids to get the best possible education that we that they can. So it's really important that we did this work. I know it's all of us

are going to have to dip in our pocket a little bit, but I'm okay with it. That's not right. It's only the taxpayers. You're new, not the rest of us. I know. Yeah. Mrs. Wearsma Tmacula. These next three minutes are going to be really important for me and for you to hear. These are the words that I want to leave you with tonight.

Though I'm imperfect, I'm a woman with integrity and I'm a Christian with high moral standards. I'm ethical to the best of my ability. I always speak truthfully, even if it's awkward, even if things are hard. This is what I've built my trusteeship on. with words that I've spoken in the past. I'm not changing them. Let it be said,

I'm not changing the record of what I have shared. So many times, women are afraid to come forward if they feel they have not been treated right because there's risk. There's public humiliation. There's condemnation. They are afraid of being seen, not seen, not heard, and even worse, not believed. It's where the Me Too movement came about and I understand some of that now.

I want to let you know that with the way that some of these things have been orchestrated tonight, I feel it's clearly punitive and its retaliation intended to harm me personally and politically. I think it sets a terrible precedent for women or even students in this district who may never come forward for the fear of being doubted or made a public

spectacle. I don't know what you're going to see in the future. I'm just speaking to it now because it's important for you to know my heart and that I do speak truth. And so if there are things that you read in the days to come and there's an opportunity for me to speak into context and what's lacking,

if it's appropriate, I'm going to do it. I still have such joy in serving no matter what. And here's the thing, truth always matters. Proverbs 12:22 says, "The Lord detests lying lips, but he delights in people who are trustworthy. He loves us all. He knows what's happened. I know that each one of us will be accountable to him

someday. And I don't take this lightly. And it this is a little out of the norm, but I want to share this with you in the last 30 seconds because it's what encourages my heart. [Music] I live for the approval and applause in an audience of one. God bless you and your family and enjoy your summer. Thank

you, Mrs. Where's my uh Dr. Koski? Okay. Is the timer going? It's great. Oh, sorry. Okay. Um, so yeah, first thing, um, this will be brief. Three things I want to speak to. Number one, Mr. Barham, please stop with the straw man mischaracterizations, the Islam terrorism. I I simply stood with the Hindu community. I teach my students

and logic and critical thinking to follow the principle of charity. And that means you give the benefit of the doubt, the highest possible interpretation from somebody you're listening to. Even if you disagree with them, you want to represent them clearly so that you don't fall into straw man mischaracterizations and straw man fallacies. So I would just say,

especially if we are going to be working together in the future, please limit that. I'm happy to have a conversation with you outside of this about my views about other religions and my view of Christianity. We can do that. But until then, I I think your comment was egregious. Um, there was a comment from the member of the community. I'll

address that. I don't do this very often, but it it was just a gross mischaracterization of this leans towards communism. When I said I'm the final arbiter of values, I just want to clarifi clarify something. I mean, as an elected elected trustee, I'm accountable to the parents of the community, not outside of act activists or bureaucrats. Um, that's not authoritarianism

or communism. That's representative democracy in a constitutional republic. You are a member of the core. That person did that for I believe 20 years that you just dishonor to the core even making statements like that. Just check yourself at the door. I was elected to stand for the values of this community. Faith, family, safety, fairness, all that. And I took the role seriously. I'm

not a rubber stamper. I don't represent Sacramento leadership of the activist teachers union Washington ideological driven consultants. I'm expected to stand firm for this community. They elected me and I represent one fifth of this board and I will speak to that. But that's what I mean when I'm the final arbiter of values to where even if the

parents don't know what's going on this board, I will vote on their behalf. That's why I was elected to vote and I told them what I would be voting on. So yeah, just rebuke that comment. You ought to be ashamed of yourself. And I wonder if you're trying to run a soft campaign up at the board meeting

trolling me. I mean, it just get over the election. It was it's already done with since December. Parental rights. Um, yes, I'm satisfied with this board, all five of us moving the needle tonight. It's been painful. It's been like a a gasket blowing, you know, an engine blowing a gasket with leaks coming out, but the car is still

moving. It's taken four iterations. We'll probably be on the fifth with maybe one additional thing, but that's actually not a concern of mine at all. Um, so I'm very satisfied with us moving the needle in the subcategory of parental rights with parental notifications. I'm really stoked for that because it's what I ran on uh multiple times. So, that's good. Um,

yeah, that's all I got to say. Excuse me. I think we did better tonight. I think this was our best meeting. Um, good news out of our transportation department. If you recall about two or three months ago, I asked the transportation department to look into the possibility of adding additional conditional bus routes for the 2526 school year. Currently, bus routes

support only families in the Summersbend community that attend Tmacula Valley High School in Margarita Middle School. Today I am happy to report that a new conditional area supporting families and students attending TVHS and Margarita. That area will cover the area between Caya Medusa, Caya Gurusell Chapos, and Butterfield Stage. We are hopeful that adding this new area will help meet the

needs of families and support attendance at Margarita Middle School and TVHS. Thank you, Mr. Lee Darling, our transportation director, and Mrs. Lash for your efforts and continued work in supporting our families and students. I want to address the statement by the Tmacula Republican Women's Club. I have asked who wrote this because I would like to say well done. Especially the

part where the author stated she supported Governor Dantis and as a result her conservative credentials were questioned by many. I understand this because I feel this has been the central issue revolving disunityity um surrounding this board since the swearing in on December 17th, 2024. There were some conservatives in the community who expected members of the previous board majority to fill the seat

of president. Since the election of Dr. Anderson to president, there has never I feel there has never been true reconciliation by certain members on this board or some of their supporters. As a result, there continues to be like with the author of the Women's Club statement, criticisms of our conservative credentials. Why? Because we chose a different path. I saw it as

the district needing a fresh new direction. And I took that path. I spent over $50,000 of my own money because no one knew who I was and so that that I wouldn't be beholden to any one person pack or any group any other group's methods of executing policy. Conservative, yes I am, but one who chooses to work with others who might

think differently. One who chooses to work within the boundaries of the law. One who strives to represent everyone within the boundaries of the law, not to target or discriminate. One whose priority is the long-term financial health of the district and one who chooses Tmccula first over other districts and how they choose to operate. One who chooses to think for

himself, collaborate when necessary and feasible, but not to be forced into group think. and one who above all is a teacher first and ran on a platform of student achievement, academic excellence, and safety above else. Let's reconcile ourselves to the positions we're in. It's the right thing to do for the sake of unity like the author of the

Republican Women's Statement did. Thank you. Let's move forward in to a period of peace and celebrate the success of TVUSD. the next reg. Oh, Dr. Woods. Yeah, I'm glad you didn't forget me. Thank you. Have a superintendent statement. Thank you, Melanie. Thank you for your comments. Greatly appreciate it. Thank you. Our team in the last couple of weeks have met

with 29 principles. It's actually the third time we've done this now in 12 months. Those are all about strategic plans. We're talking about specific schools. We're seeing progress which the board will learn soon. U but thank you to the principles and to the team that joined me uh in in uh discussing with them on what they're attending to do in their particular

schools to help move the the needle with many many of our kids. And as it was mentioned, summer school's off to a great start. The ESY kids were fabulous uh as always. And I want to say a special thank you to our M and facilities team. If you're around the district a bit, you will see activity just about everywhere. Modernization

activity, maintenance and operations type activity. They are they are unbelievable. It's going to get hot here in the next couple of months, but they'll keep plugging away. And I'm excited to see uh some of the results of of all the work that they've done. I have to leave really early in the morning tomorrow from LAX to Washington

DC, but it's a privilege because I'll be going with Principal Morton will be receiving a national middle schools to watch award in Washington DC. So on behalf of Tmacula Middle School, Mr. Morton and his tremendous team, I'm so excited to go and receive that award. Have a great rest of the summer to all of you. Thank you.

Thank you, Dr. Woods. Um, the next regular open session business. Oh, we have future agenda items. Okay. I had those crossed off because we didn't have them clarified. Dr. Carowski, will you I'm going to ask board consensus to be able to pick up uh an issue that I was already working with Brian on. Since before my recall, I worked with uh Jason

Vickery, Dr. Veles. she okayed that back at the time when she was interm superintendent. It's to work with kids with behavioral problems to get a pilot program in the school that could be uh grant funded and um now I've picked up that with Brian, but I want to ask board consensus to continue to work on with him. It's not a rush, but then present

that to the board. Could you put an information item on and ask for consensus because I don't know what you're talking about. Can we put information on? Well, I don't want to reveal all the intellectual property before I bring it to the information. That's what I'm saying. I need time to work with Brian to get information to

present to the board. Gary knows about it or Dr. Woods. He's already known that I've worked with Brian. You know, I have Let me get you a pen. I just I have no idea what a program that works with kids with behavior um that helps them mold their character. Are you listening, Dr. Anderson? You're asking. I'm kind of looking at the board

to see if they're paying attention. I'm looking but I I I need more. I'm looking around trying to get everyone's I'm seeing if people are Yes. Vote for it. Yes. Okay. So, I got three yeses. I was just looking for Yeah, I'm just getting information. Okay, that's all I was looking back and forth like is he a yes?

What is Gary saying? I'm looking around for body language. Okay, so you have consensus. We just got three yeses. Um so that's and then you'll present something on information and it'll probably be in August. I'm not even thinking July. It'll So board consensus for um you to work on that. Is there any other um future agenda items?

I have one. Yeah. Yeah. Um Mr. Balawag is scheduled to present in July for the grading subcommittee based on what he learned um in terms of uniform grading policies in math. Yeah. And inflation and the D for high school math. He was scheduled to do that for Okay. Yeah. He's just going to present presentation on high school on grading practices. Um

is there anything else? I have a thought. I don't know if this is going to be discussed. I haven't seen it on any future schedule, but in terms of cell phones, there's a lot of talk throughout the state in terms of what districts are doing, making sure it's limited, how it affects the academic environment. That might be something to

I think we're going to have to eventually do something about it because it was so we can put that on future agenda item. Yeah. Okay. Agreed. Len, will you keep track of that? So, if I try to pull them off the agenda, you'll let me know that we had consensus to put that on. What? And the Yeah. And then we have the

governance handbook. Governance handbook. We'll have it done. We'll have it done. Okay. And I think you guys are going to meet with other people about that. Okay. The next regular open session business meeting of the governing board of education is scheduled for June 24th, 2025. This meeting is adjourned on Tuesday, June 24th, 2025 at 11:09. I'm sorry, 10:09

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