Board of Education — September 9, 2025

Is that working? The regular meeting of the governing board of education is called to order by myself, Dr. Melinda Anderson at 4:03 p.m. on Tuesday, September 9th, 2025 at the district office conference conference center. Um, I would like to approve the closed session agenda now and then after we meet in closed session, approve the open session agenda.

Are you guys okay with that? >> Do I have consensus? >> Sure. >> Yes. >> That's never been the way that we've done it. So, I would like to do it in terms of best practices and the way we've always done it, which is to talk about the approval of the entire meeting right from the top. I'm with I'm with

Jen. >> Okay. So, it's three to two. We're going to go ahead. I move to approve the closed session agenda. >> Second. >> Do we have any public comments on the closed session agenda? >> You had one on uh approval of the agenda. >> We're approving the closed session >> Who's that? >> Uh Christine Masa. >> Christine, is that um open session or

close session? Well, it's related to the open session agenda, but if you're I won't have opportunity to make that comment before you discuss the open session agenda. >> We're going to re we're going to approve the open session agenda next. After close session, will you not be here? >> After close session comments? >> No, after close session.

>> Right. Comments at that point on the agenda. >> We don't. But you signed up to comment >> on the open session on the on the order of the open session agenda. It's not on an agenda item. >> Okay. So you so your comment is for the approval >> the order of the agenda. >> Okay. >> Not an agenda.

>> Go ahead. Let's go ahead and take that now because we have >> Can I ask you Dr. Anderson? This is really fast. Why do you want to vote this way? um because there's a lot of misinformation and I think once we are able to go through the open session agenda with the public here, they're going to understand information that's

vital. So, point of order, I'd like to request Mr. DeMarco weigh in because Mrs. Mossa brings up a good point. I think I did as well with doing the approval of the agenda right from the top. It doesn't make sense to do it that way. So, I would like to hear from so that everybody's heard appropriately. We

we already had consensus so let's go on. Thank you. >> Okay. Um I am not going to grant your point of order because we do have I look for board consensus and the board has agreed to do close session approval of the agenda. We'll come back and approve the open session. And just as a courtesy because there's a member of the public

here and she wants to speak now regarding the approval and order of the agenda. I think that's appropriate. I have no problem with that approval, but you're stying me as a trustee from speaking into it as well. >> No, you're not because you're gonna talk about it in closed. >> Okay. >> Is this on? Okay. So, it'll be quick.

Um, I just wanted to implore you when you're discussing the order of the open session agenda to consider information reports item 02 prior to considering action item N5. I there's a lot of really good information that Mrs. Das put in O2 that will inform N5 and you should discuss it before N5 because it could render parts of N5 moot. So that's

my request. Thank you. >> Okay. So Len, will you take a note of that and then when we approve the open session, we'll bring it up as a board. Okay. We'll discuss that as a board. Um all right then. I move to approve the closed session agenda. Do I have a second? >> Second. >> Len Schwarz. Yes,

>> Kamaroski. >> Yes, >> Barham. >> Anderson. >> Yes. The motion is adopted unanimously. We will now go into close session. >> Oh, we I'm sorry. We do have two I'm sorry. We have two comments on close session item. Christine Masa for both. Okay. >> Together. It's quick. It's short. Little short comments. Okay. So, um, I just

wanted to lend my, uh, support. I assume I know what you're discussing about E5 and E6, uh, the appointment of a new superintendent, an assistant superintendent. Just want to say, Dr. Woods, it's been a pleasure getting to know you, watching you take an interest in our schools and an interest in stunt because near and dear to my heart, but

to Dr. Velas and Mrs. Deas, as Liza would say, it's about dang time. Thank you. >> She wants to put it here. Thank you. >> Before we do five, >> so she wants a call to do >> in accordance with government code 54957.7, the board will now meet in close session to consider items listed in section E.

Good evening and welcome to the regular open session meeting of the Tmacula Valley Unified School District Board of Education on September 9th, 2025 at what time is it? 6:02 p.m. I've been asked to read this statement to start with. To ensure an orderly and respectful meeting, I'd like to review a few guidelines. Please treat all speakers, board members, staff, and attendees

attendees with courtesy. Public comments will take place during the designated comment period. Each speaker will have their allotted time to share remarks. Comments should be related to matters within the board jurisdiction, and we will ask that you stay on topic. Disruptions such as shouting, interruptions, or aggressive behavior are not permitted as they interfere with everyone's ability to be heard. Our

board designignate Brian Pastor has been authorized to act on behalf of the board in enforcing the rules of decorum. Mr. Pastor Pastor is empowered to determine if and when individuals may be asked to leave. Please be reminded that this is it is the board's duty to maintain a safe and respectful environment so that all voices can be heard fairly. Thank

you for your cooperation and for joining us tonight. Okay, now we're going to um go back to approval of agenda. So, are there any requests for changes to the open session agenda? Okay. Couple of requests for changes in regards to R1. >> I want to make sure that people know this was >> already took it up. >> Are you listening?

>> Um, no. I'm talking to Lenny. >> Okay. So, in regards to R1, um, this was agendaized by you without my consent. And while we appreciate PJI and their services that they provided, I know this form went to DeMarco, Mr. DeMarco, um, a week or two ago. So, that's another time that you've agendaized something when you didn't

have permission from a trustee. So, that's one point. R2, R3, and R4. >> Mrs. items. Let me speak as you promised, please. >> Okay. I don't understand what she's saying. >> I have no idea either. >> Okay. So, R2, R3, and R4 are items I requested for action within the 10-day window as per our governing handbook and

bylaw 9322. They fall within the subject matter jurisdiction of the board. On July 22nd, you agreed to the constitution day resolution, which happens in a week and a half on this deis. opposing AB495 was discussed and supported by the superintendent and was also brought forward by Dr. K. And the proposal to elect new new leadership that comes as a a result of the

president's catastrophic failure in judgment while abdicating a fiduciary responsibility to protect all children staff and the reputation of TVUSD. So those items need to be moved to action. In terms of consent, I do have three corrections to present and I'm going to pass these down to the board. These are the minutes on the consent list, M1, M2,

and M3. And I have those here tonight. So, those are my my changes. >> So, let me just start. I'm not quite sure. Um, is there did anyone did you guys have any changes to the agenda? >> Okay. You don't have any? Um, Mr. him, you wanted to make a change to the agenda. >> What I wanted to do is I wanted to

I think that and we had a uh somebody speak to this in close session, a community member, and I agree with her that O2 should come before N5. I think it would be a more fruitful discussion. >> Yeah. I don't Well, I don't think we did. I mean, we have to say we I I want to switch.

>> Yeah, we we didn't vote on it. >> Yeah, we didn't vote on that. We we need consensus or we need to vote. Okay. >> So move O2 just move information and reports and Ash just switch them. >> Okay. >> So we can have a more fruitful discussion >> with regard to O2 when we get to N5.

>> So just to make sure O2 will be moved to right below or before >> I would just say move information and reports both of them first. Let's get them over with and then do action items. >> Okay. >> Simple. >> Okay. So we're going to do information. You want to do information and reports first. >> Can you get consensus?

>> Uh, we'll vote on it when we vote to >> We got two things going on too. We got Jen's. >> I have to go back to her because I don't understand what changes you want to make. Okay. So, >> do we have consensus and then we'll vote on it. Do you guys want to move information? Okay. We have three people

that said they will move. >> Yeah. I don't consent to that, but just want to get it on the record. You consent to that? >> So, information and reports will come before action items. Ly, will you help me not make a mistake on that? Okay. And then um I wanted to Did you have any other changes? >> I don't.

>> Okay. I want to remove item six from the agenda. I want to make a motion to postpone that definitely. Does anyone >> want and which one? N6. >> Is that the right one? >> I don't know. You're >> Yeah, it is. Action item number six. the healthcare. Um, Mr. Barum, you brought that back. >> I did. And

>> for to reconsider your vote >> and I object. >> You object. You want to reconsider your vote. I do not want to bring that back. I >> uh do we have public comments? Because if we do, I'd like to hear those since it was agendaized >> before we remove it. >> I'd like to have Mrs. Dis speak for one

minute on this. >> Wait just a second. We're just approving the agenda. This is going to go till 24 hours if you guys have comment on every single agenda item change. We don't do that normally. >> So that's my question. Okay. So first of all, I move to postpone it. Is there a second? No. >> Postpone. >> I want to postpone definitely. meaning I

don't want this item to come back. We voted no to have the Riverside University Health System behavioral health. That was a 4-1 vote not to adopt that. Mr. Barham is reconsidering his vote and has put it back on the agenda. I don't want it on the agenda. I want to postpone it definitely meaning it will never come back. You voted no on it and

Mrs. Wears voted no on it. I did and Mr. Barham. Do you I'm asking to postpone definitely. Do I have a second? >> Yeah, and I may be up for that, but if you postpone it and it's not on the agenda, if you have comments on it, you're you're this is a disservice to the people that want to see

>> we already took public comment at the last meeting and nothing has changed. So, >> I know, but but hold on. But then you put it back on. So, according to the Brown Act, you have to allow public comments on >> or let's honor that. We'll leave it. We'll leave it and then Mr. Barham, you can make your case for why you want it

on there. Okay. I I obviously don't want it on there, but >> Well, Dr. Anderson, just just one second. Is there any public comments? Cuz if there's not, >> we are going to take public comments on changes to the agenda once we have completed our changes to the agenda. This item is still on the agenda. So, we'll take public comments on it at that

time. If an item is postponed definitely from the agenda, it's no longer part of the agenda and we don't take public comments on it. >> Right? >> They could do general public comments. you they can talk during general public comments on that >> but then that pushes them to the end of the meeting. >> Yeah. So my question is

>> Yeah. >> So you want everyone So okay so we'll just leave it. That's okay. >> Do it. So we'll go through that one again. Um okay let me just see the next one. Okay, the next one that I want to postpone definitely is mixeduse spaces and I want Len to pull this up. Mrs. Wearsma, I verified

with three emails that you demanded this be on and I'm not going to post the emails. And I also called I did not want this on the agenda. I asked Mr. Dedricch if I could not put it on the agenda. You demanded three times that mis mixeduse spaces be on your email. Please don't interrupt. >> Go ahead and then I'll speak.

>> I have the we verified with email. We verified and now I'm going to pull it up and explain why we're postponing this definitely. Okay. Why >> this is once again targeting me with misinformation and lies in this community. >> Point of order. >> Go ahead and make your statement then I'm going to correct you. >> That makes you spaces. This was never

agendaized for this with my permission by Dr. Anderson. This is a representative act of retaliation. >> No doubt. >> I think Yeah, I think we should just So, last meeting we said if people kept interrupting each other and we did this, we turned off Mr. Barham's microphone on him. So, I'm not being I'm not targeting you. I targeted Mr. Barham. He

interrupted you and I turned off his microphone. So, I'm going to give the board one warning. Please don't interrupt each other or what we'll do is the same thing. We'll turn off all the microphones and then you guys can raise your hand when it's your turn to speak. We had to do that before and I know, right? Did you like it, Mr. Barham, that

we shut off your microphone? I made you raise your hand. >> I'm going to do the same thing, Mrs. Wearsman. Okay, so pull this up and and if you want, I can I'll send you your emails, okay? Demanding and I sent these to I asked Mr. Dedric. I told him I don't want this on the agenda, but you

demanded it be on the >> Not for this meeting. >> Okay, pull it up. >> That's not the email. >> No, the privacy letter. Okay. Okay. I know why you don't want this on here. Um, this is this is the privacy policy that Jen submitted. Dr. Kamaroski, did you put your name on it? She keeps saying it's

both of yours. >> Back in May, but not for this meeting. >> Not for this meeting. Okay. So, back in May, this was put on the agenda and I met with Mrs. Wearsma for two hours and explained why we weren't adopting this. I have been on the phone twice with the Pacific Justice Institute with Matt. Um, let me look at his name. I even

talked to him today. Like I was like I want to know from the Pacific Justice in Institute if the statements about this privacy reasonable expectation of privacy I'm is true. Um where is my phone? Because I want to make sure I give you the right name. I've spoken to him twice. He said he was actually one of the original

authors of this privacy policy um that he created 10 years ago and that it's no longer compliant with California ed code and law. So I have been receiving um text messages and phone calls from people in the um community saying that this is being sold as a policy that that back in May and I think Dr. Kamaroski actually said it when he

was on TV talking to um who was the guy. >> Matt Gates. You said the policy that Jen and I and I have the quote written down. I watched it and then the person that was with me said write that down exactly what he said. The May policy. So talking to hold on Matt Mc Reynolds. Matt Mc Reynolds with

the Pacific in the Pacific Justice Institute. I've talked to him several times. They do not support this policy is no longer compliant with California Ed Code. They said, "Go ahead and use it as like an inspiration. We put this out here and then I asked Matt McReynolds how what would you like to do?" He wants to know who in his firm are you talking

to? because they I think it would be he suggested we all meet so that you can clarify this firm is this by the one of the authors of this policy that you have said is the cure all and legally sound what was the quote she used Mr. Barham >> why why the commentary Dr. So, we're trying to move the agenda here

>> because you guys are you guys had people come to my house and graffiti my neighborhood and I'm going to defend over this policy. I called the attorneys and I spoke to them and I told them that we are going to say we are going to speak the truth from the Pacific Justice Institute. Do you have a

>> So, they want to know which attorney from the Pacific Justice Institute told you to use this because they do not endorse this policy anymore. They sent me the next the policy that they do endorse and it's their religious opt out. They want people to opt out for religious purposes do because of the Malmood court case that was decided in

the Supreme Court. That's what they've asked. And I put a copy of the Pacific Justice Institute Advocates of Faith and Freedom has a religious opt out so that people can opt out for religious purposes. But they said they're no longer supporting this. Therefore, I think we need to >> point Dr. Anderson, you're not on a timer and she actually said she didn't

want this agendaized and you're not speaking to that claim. You're giving commentary. We're trying to approve the meeting. We're wasting time. Point of Let's get back to business. >> Let's I know it's it's tough to hear the truth. Can I postpone this? >> Oh, I'm so glad you're on mic. I am so glad. >> I'm I am. So, we're going to postpone

this definitely unless you'd like to schedule a meeting with the Pacific Justice Institute. They said they'll walk you through this form. Do you want to do that? >> What I want to do is be afforded my due process to speak to your comments and it starts now. >> Okay. So, I made a motion to postpone definitely a second

>> back in May. >> So, we need to >> Dr. Anderson, we met and I proposed this form as a template. >> This is regarding postponing definitely. And I'm not going to >> This is regarding your lies to this community and pattern of dishonesty. Let me address what you just said and give me consent to be able to put

>> call the question. Okay. Do post. >> You need to understand this tyranny >> right now in this boardroom because I am not being afforded the opportunity to set the record straight. >> This is Dr. Telling you the truth. this in May was ignored by it's embarrassing for you when I asked her to look at this form

and send it to the attorneys which she refused to do and did it two weeks ago. She is not telling you the truth. Please listen to what I have to say when she gives me the opportunity. I'm a dy elected trustee and deserve every opportunity. [Music] [Applause] Free ball. Okay, we had a motion to postpone. Definitely. We had a second.

I spoke. Mrs. Wearsma, before we decide, we should limit our time. We'll start the timers because we normally don't discuss postpone. How much time >> do you want to give point point of order? I want the com. So you need to keep a knife over there. Um Mr. Schwarz, how much time do you >> for each board member who wants to talk

on this >> on postponing this? Okay. So I had my two minutes. Mrs. Wesman, you have two minutes. Turn up. >> Go ahead and put on >> which item are we discussing? >> We're postponing definitely. Meaning your privacy policy that includes strip searches. The strip searches are not legal. You have two minutes to talk about postponing that definitely or do you

want to have it so you can bring it back someday? Because if we postpone it definitely, you can't bring it back again. And I I don't think we should for the reasons I gave. But go ahead and give your two minutes of why you would would or would not want to postpone that. Definitely. >> In regards to this item that you've

consistently misrepresented, Dr. Kamaroski and I brought this forward in May for a point of discussion along with legal guidelines from the California School Board Association. Those were presented both on this deis and in the committee when I met with you as not the template that we need to use but as a suggestion of something that PJI has put

together for families to use. I was also appraised that on the website it is viable. But we entered that committee and I talked to you about the items that we could use or not use. It was always open modification and delineation, understanding that TVUSD was going to do what was right for them. You told Dr. Kamroski and I on this day and in the

committee, me in the committee, that you would pass everybody's work and represent them by sending it to the attorneys who would then have the opportunity to look over it and make the best choice for us. You lied about that. And two weeks ago, I found out that the two attorneys had not received it. You, as a president of this board, are

responsible to present work of each board member so that our attorneys can do their due diligence and come back with the right of order. I ask for your respect in not speaking at the moment. I asked for the attorneys to come back with the best solution. You have consistently misrepresented, targeted, and retaliated against my work as a

trustee. So much so that as a dyeleed official, I have not had the right to operate in a full capacity with respect. The three of you here on this deis elected to choose the accommodations of mental health and religious persuasion and literally ignored what we had to say. You scoffed at us and now we are in the

predicament today because we have a president servant >> on the motion to postpone this definitely and not bring it back. I was just given a form from a member of the public saying that he contacted PGI and they said the form was still good. So there's there's a little contradiction for you. Maybe that'll come up later. >> Not not quite sure.

>> I I had the name of the attorney and they said that they will speak. It's my time to speak. Thank you. And then back in May when we agendaized this uh you might you might have called it a placeholder for the concept of privacy. Sure. The policy got agendaized. You said it was a burdensome policy. No

problem. Here we are. Jen made the claim. Never agendaize it for this meeting. You're trolling her right out of the start gate when she didn't even agendaize it. >> I need you to No, no, no. It is my right to talk. You keep on interrupting me. >> So whether or not we use the Brad Dasis policy is almost like a nonsequittor. It

wasn't agendaized. I don't even know why we're talking about it. You gave me permission to talk to the attorney to work on a privacy policy, which is what we're going to talk about tonight. And you know, it's so funny. You're so disrespectful when people are talking and looking at you. This is what you do all meeting long. This has been meetings

long. Which reminds us of that future agenda item and it talks about the presidential reorganization or the or reorganizational leadership. Dr. Anderson, I'm sorry to say this, but this is a train wreck and it hasn't even started yet. We haven't even freaking approved the agenda yet and you're coming out with your commentary against another board member and she's telling

you she didn't agendaize it. Going back to the incompetence, this has been months on end where you misagendize. It's in the wrong action item versus information reports. You put a name on it, it's not supposed to be there. It's it's it's absolutely insanity. So, we can play your little game, but let me tell you something right now. You

are not our teacher and we are not in elementary school. I am an elected official and I've been representing the parents of this community and I will continue to do so. You don't have my permission to ask me to behave. How about you learn how to do it first? [Applause] >> Mr. Barham, did you have any comment?

No, I I just wanted to say I I actually I watched this footage today to to review what took place and I don't remember scoffing at this. I remember going through this for myself point by pointing out the issues and the problems with each of these points. And in addition to that, it was in the parental notification

section of um we were discussing parental notification at the time if you recall and the issue was notifying all the parents that this was going to be the policy and by doing that if there was a gender non-conforming student in the locker room that that would be against the law. Okay. So I remember specifically going through this point by pointing out the issues

and then it going into if I if I'm recalling that it went into separate you postponed the parental notification committee and then it went into separate separate committees where you dealt with Mrs. Wearsma and you dealt with Dr. Kamroski and then when this came back this wasn't there and I I don't know why because I'm not privy to those

conversations. I don't know what happened there but the religious accommodation and the mental health accommodation that's what was present and that's how we move forward. So that's what I remember. Am I stating this correctly? >> I want to interrupt your >> No, I mean that's that's what I remember. I remember going through this policy. There's lots of problems and

issues with this policy point by point and then we went into parental not I mean we disbanded parental notification and you went separately but there there there are problems >> made and there was a second len please call role to postpone definitely and not bring back the um mixed use spaces form anymore. >> Yes. Wersma, >> no. Kamaroski,

>> no. >> Barham, >> yes. >> Anderson, >> yes. Um, we were invited, Mrs. Wesman, to meet with Pacific Justice Institute. They said that they would explain it to you, so I can set that up if you'd like. >> I have the founders's name in my phone. >> Okay, perfect. Um the next one is um the I want to move to postpone

the resolution for the constitution day observance >> which you had previously agreed to. >> Um definitely. And Mrs. or Mrs. Anna Sebar, would you pull up those questions? Do I have a second to postpone the resolution? Um, >> can I see it? >> The con? No, it's the constitution. >> This resolution right here. >> No, no, pull up the pictures that I

sent. >> Oh, sure. >> The week you're talking about. >> Um, no, just the just the resolution because we said we weren't going to do resolutions anymore and so I want to postpone this resolution. >> Um, definitely. Do I have a second? >> Wait, point of order. Did we vote on a motion? Could we vote on that? Cuz you

said we and I'm thinking I don't remember. >> The committee actually. So, let me explain. Um I have a motion and I have a second. The committee met and it was a committee with people from um outside of our district. We met with um board members from Muretta and another district and um several community members. And at the committee member

meeting, Mrs. Wearsman, you were supposed to be on the committee. You weren't there. I explained to the members that we are not doing resolutions because we currently are in litigation for a resolution and we are trying to eliminate not unnecessary resolutions. >> It has nothing to do with the CRT resolution. You'd already guaranteed it on the day of order and agreed to it.

Point of order on your dishonesty. >> So, um, Mrs. Wearsman, we please. Um, so this is I want to show the public the these pictures. I sent an email to all of the board members and what we're doing like Christine Schmidt, she has her costume. We agreed not to do the resolution in the committee and instead we're hosting events in Mya and in

downtown Tmacula and we've sent this um celebration of the Constitution Week out to the public. Um Mayor Calus is actually going to dress like George Washington he said and we have a Betsy Ross and you've been invited Mrs. Wema to also put on a costume. I have a costume. Um they would like another male there. So I don't know if one of you

guys want to dress up as a founder, but we also know we also have um like a Martha Washington and a few different things. This is for the kids and the committee agreed that because Tmacula was having um that we have expensive litigation with some with a existing resolution. We're trying not to do unnecessary resolution has nothing to do

with this. >> Mrs. The committee agreed that to to make >> the committee is not a fellow colleague and trustee. Your onus is on this deis when you talk to a colleague. >> Do you want to um >> I want to approve the agenda and get past this. >> I want to I want to postpone this definitely because we're not we've said

that we're not going to keep putting unnecessary resolutions on. I don't want Steve Schwarz to bring a celebrate Pride Month resolution. Um he hasn't but I'd appreciate it if you don't. And I don't want all these other unnecessary resolutions. Sorry, that was an example. So the question is, >> are you going to dress in a costume? I'm

assuming not, but the committee said that Tmacula didn't have to do the resolution that we were going to just do. >> Just do it. >> Yeah. And these are the things. Um, scroll down. If you look like, do you have the other picture with all the boxes? because there's people people in the community have raised like thousands of

dollars and they bought constitutions. Um Kimberly Valz has helped us like we're really working hard to make this a positive thing, but we didn't want to do the resolution just due to current litigation in our district. So I have a motion and a second. Would you like to speak on this? Two minutes. The only thing I'd like to say is again,

you have a president trying to lead, not honoring her word. When she gives that on the day to a trustee, that's where she has to honor what's said, not another committee. And God bless the committee that's working on this. This is simple. This was something we all agreed to. Constitution week is in a week and a half. The resolution itself

is not really the conflict here. It's that this doesn't make sense. We could have had this discussion with an action item and she needed to keep her word. She's not done that. And so I don't know if I'm dressing up. I'm more concerned about proper governance and procedures in this boardroom. Does anyone else want to comment on

postponing the constitution resolution? Okay. So, um I have a motion in a second. Len, will you call role? >> Schwarz, >> yes. >> Wearsma, >> no. >> Kamoski, >> Barham, >> yes. Anderson. >> Yes. Okay. >> I'm not postponing that one. Um I'll come back to I Jen wanted to make changes. I'm going to come back to her

because I didn't understand her changes. Um the next one is the Are were you guys going to postpone that one for me? proposal. >> Yes. >> Can I speak on that? >> Yes. Uh I would like to postpone uh number four until December when we set the meeting at the last meeting. We decided we would follow board policy

which says the reorganization meeting comes elit second Friday. >> We have a just real quick we have a motion. Do we have a second? >> Second. Okay. To postpone until >> the the scheduled meeting. Correct. Okay. >> Continue. Mr. Barn, two minutes or Mr. Schwarz, two minutes. >> No, I that's it. >> Okay. >> I have a point of discussion.

>> Okay. Mrs. Wearsman, two minutes. >> So, I don't need two minutes because I think everybody's seen in the last half an hour why this should be considered due to the extenduating circumstances. If a president decides to step down and resign, which I believe should happen, there would be an organization needed right away. We cannot have somebody

leading this board with a disaster like we're we're watching tonight. These are circumstances that can be dealt with and we can indeed move forward with asking for a new president. It's imperative for this community and quite frankly the whole nation's watching. I'd just like to uh refer to bylaw 9121. president. There's nothing in here that says other than the

reorganization meeting is after I believe the second Friday in December, there's nothing in here about willy-nilly having a reorganization meeting whenever you feel like it. So, this is the policy. This is the bylaw. This is what we follow. And I'd like to uh call the question. Did anyone else want to comment on it? Okay. I just want to comment that um

I think I I just want to make this comment since it's about me. Um people did come into my neighborhood and trespassed on my property putting these signs up. I live in a neighborhood that has um is is mostly conservative. I've known my neighbors for over 10 years and some of these people have been in this community for over 50 years. when they

saw that people had grievated our neighborhood. Um, they weren't upset at me, Mrs. Worersman. They were upset that you would like invade our personal space. Um, I go to church with the >> point of order. You're accusing me of participating in whatever it is you're speaking of. I deny that. >> I will take that back because all it was

was it was the the message of proposal to elect a new TBSD president. So, you're correct. the assumption was made that the same person that put this on the agenda might be doing that. And I I want people to know like we're spending a lot of time and money dividing our community. I I'm curious why people wouldn't spend money on signs to like

elect Sheriff Bianco or oppose the redistricting in California. I know some people don't like Chad Biano, but I actually support him. And so that's my question. And why are we spending why are we dividing our community when we should be coming together and like supporting things that matter? Um like the redistricting that Governor Nuome's about to do. And that's all my point is

like we should stop wasting time on this. Um the motion was made and there was a second. Lenny, please comment. >> I'd like to make a comment. It's going to be quick. I had nothing to do with Dr. Anderson's property. I I don't support anything like that. You accused me and and and that accusation is so unprofessional. So I'm just going to

you. You're interrupting my time. Say, "Dr. >> You're interrupting my talk." >> Okay, go ahead. Go ahead. No, I I didn't mean to accuse you. >> Anybody who's campaigned with me knows that I'm highly against anything like that before recall, after recall, anytime during the election. Don't mess with other um >> people's signs when they're running. Don't go into the I'm I'm not for any of

this. No. And don't don't you dare accuse me and then act like you didn't say anything. I mean, this is the problem, man. Going back to the lies. You lie all the time, Melinda. Literally, stop lying. >> No, he's going to do >> You got to slow down. You got to slow down and be genuine. Be genuine. Take

your time. Put it in first gear. Be genuine. You will earn respect from people. But when you fly through things and you lie constantly, you're not going to have any respect. This is why we're here. 40 minutes. We're just trying to approve the agenda. Long story short, I didn't do I didn't have anything to do with Dr. Anderson's property. Sorry that

happened to you. >> Okay. I didn't know it came across. I was accusing you. Um there was a motion and a second and um Lenade, go ahead and call roll. >> Schwarz. >> Yes. >> Wait. Yeah. Motion to postpone definitely. >> Motion to postpone definitely. Schwarz said yes. >> Where's >> no >> Kamaroski? >> No. >> Barham

>> yes. >> Anderson >> yes. Okay. Okay. I just need to know if you can make clarifying statements because I'm not quite sure. Do you want to make changes to the agenda? Like could you just clarify? Like I want to move item 8 before item seven. Um will you go back through your your changes and help me

understand those? >> What we need to go back to is the resolution having to do with AB495. Okay, >> that was not something we just voted on. I brought it forward after actually having a great discussion with our superintendent and he mentioned this would be the hill that he would die on in terms of advocating for parents and

protecting children which is why I brought this forward to have her make a motion. [Applause] >> Mrs. Mrs. Mrs. Bearsman, do you have a motion to make regarding item two on future agenda items? >> I'm going to leave the motions to you. Leave them to you because I don't understand what you're doing at the moment or what you're asking.

>> Okay. Um >> Um No. So, is there any other There was no motions made. Is there any other changes to the agenda that anyone wants to >> We still have to vote on that particular item. >> Wait, what are we voting? There's no motion >> to move it into action. >> To move it into action, which was

>> Dr. Do you have a motion to move? >> Sure. You know, my name's on it. Well, let's move it into action and let's take >> Can I get a Can I get a motion and a second for that? >> I just moved. Do I have a second? Do you have a Do you want to >> So, let me be straight. This is a

resolution which you just said we're not bringing resolutions to the agenda and yet you're bringing this one. I just want to make sure things are clear for everyone. >> I don't want to bring resolutions to the agenda, but Dr. Kamaraskki just made the motion and now he's asking for a second because I don't decide. I'm looking for

board. So, Dr. Komraki made the motion and he's asking for a second. Would you like second you? >> Okay, there we go. So, the motion has been made to move item number two, resolution opposing Assembly Bill 495 to parental rights in education from future agenda items to action items. Um, I guess we'll say number nine. There's been a motion and a second.

Should we uh >> discussion? >> Discussion, Mr. um Schwarz. >> Yeah. Um, as a member of the CSBA legislative committee, we have talked about this bill. I passed out to our board members the CSBA talking points on the bill. Uh, I I'm assuming that my you know where the bill is and you know where the bill is now, Joe?

>> Out of the suspension file could be voted on any time. >> The bill was passed by the assembly. It was passed by the Senate committee. It is now on the Senate floor. CSBA took no position either for the bill or against the bill. And I am not going to vote against the CSBA position which they took on the bill.

>> Okay. Is there any more comments? >> Schwarz. >> No. >> Where's Would you please clarify the motion >> to move it into action? Yes. Sorry. Sorry. >> Kamaroski. Yes. >> Barham. >> Yes. >> Anderson. >> Yes. Okay. So, we're moving the resolution on 202526-11 opposing Assembly Bill 495 to defend parental rights and education to action item number nine. Um, and then we'll get

to that then. Are there any other changes to the agenda? Yes. I'm pulling M1, M2, and M3. correction to minutes for public comment on the 21st, 22nd, and 29th. I have only three. I can explain them to the public in real time with transparency. And Len does have a copy of it. >> So, Mrs. Wersma wants to pull the

minutes again. Do I have a second? Okay, there's no second. So, we're going to we'll leave the minutes on >> Oh, I'll I'll second it. >> You'll second it. Okay. So, Mrs. Weman is going to pull the amendments again and Dr. Kamarasi is going to second it. Mrs. Wearsman, go ahead and speak to p pulling the minutes. Oh, we haven't got

to consent, don't we? >> We do that. >> We got to approve the agenda first. >> That's right. Go ahead. >> The confusion is hard to keep up with. >> Um, when we get to consent, but we haven't got to consent yet. Okay. >> Do we want to pull consent now? We usually will pull consent so that the uh

staff Okay. So, we're going to pull the consent items. We have a motion in a second. Is there anything else that people want to pull from consent? >> M1, two, and three. >> We're just letting we usually let the staff know that we've pulled consent items. We won't we won't address them till we get to consent. Okay.

So, let's go all the way back to I move to approve the agenda with the motions that were made and accepted. Second. >> Second. Okay. Len, please call roll. >> Schwarz, >> yes. >> Wema, >> no. >> Kamoski, >> Barham, >> yes. >> Anderson, >> yes. Okay. The motion was adopted um 3 to two. Okay. In attendance this evening are governing

board Dr. Melinda Anderson, Mr. Emil Barham, Dr. Joseph Kamaroski, Mr. Steven Schwarz, Mrs. J Jennifer Wearsma, and Mi Melissa Chai, student board member, secretary to the board, Dr. Gary W. Woods, and the executive team. We will now have the pledge of allegiance. Okay, hats off everybody. Hand over your heart, please. Ready, begin. >> I pledge allegiance to the flag of the

United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. >> Hallelujah. Okay. Um, actions taken in closed session must be reported to the public once closed session ends. Let me see real quick though. Today's close session began at 4 p.m. The board of education took the

following action in close session. Mr. Barham. >> It was moved by myself and seconded by member Schwarz to deny the claim for damages for LB dated August 8th, 2025. The motion to approve uh was ratified by a vote of 4 to one with the one being a recusal. It was moved by com uh member Kamaskki and seconded by member Schwarz to

appoint Dr. Kimberly as the next superintendent succeeding Dr. Gary W. Woods subject to contract negotiations. Dr. Kimberly Veles's term will begin on January 1st, 2026. And the motion uh to approve was adopted unanimously with a vote of 5 to zero. No, one more. It was moved by member Schwarz and seconded by member Kamroski to appoint Mrs. Nicole Deis as assistant

superintendent of educational support services beginning January 1st, 2026. And the motion to approve was adopted unanimously with a vote of 5-0. [Applause] >> And that's it. >> Melissa, do you want to um call for student board or student comments? Good evening everyone. As your student board member, I have the honor of introducing tonight's important school organizations that support our student

and staff every day. From our teachers association, we have President Edgar Diaz. Good day. order threw me off today. But have a good evening. Hey, Ed Diaz, president of Tmacula Valley Educator Association. We're in like week four of school coming back and still going out to different sites, seeing a lot of great people um at their work and

conditions trying to figure out what they're doing, interacting with their students. We have people who moved to different sites. So, all of them have been taking it right in step. But TVA is focused on delivering top-notch instruction, living up to proven leaders of student success. Our union members ensure that students have access to learning experiences that challenges

that challenge students services that support and opportunities to advocate for safe and effective learning conditions. Uh what is a safe and learning what is safe and effective learning condition? That can involve a lot of different things but at the moment TVA is looking on how we can as staff be able to advocate for what are the things that helps our students and

teachers learn the best they can. To have safe learning conditions means that all students have proper supports and environments for success. That means we are have placements for students that match up for what they need. Teachers are alerted of previous violent behavior per California Ed Code. Safety measures are in place at each site so classroom teachers can reach out for support. Uh

TVA has requested the log for OSHA workplace violence and prevention over the last year to evaluate where and what areas we can work with TVs to improve school safety. In regards to effective learning conditions, we have quite a few things that have popped up as we've started meeting with different teachers in different grade spans. Elementary teachers having access to time to plan

and grade. Uh accommodations for combo class instruction, appropriate staffing to support students uh not only in their learning goals, but also to keep them focused and moving in class. And in addition, we're also gearing up to make sure that TVSD has the funds it needs to be able to continue much of what um TVSD has to do, which is instruct students.

Uh in 2030, there's going to be there's going to be a a tax thing that kind of falls off for California that's going to blow a $40 million hole in the TVs budget. Uh this ex expires in 2030, but the movement to try to have this will start over the next fall. So that' be the election in 2026.

This tax that provides public education with significant funding. We're going to need everyone's help in the community to gather enough signatures to put it on the ballot and make sure that TVSD can continue the instruction that it has. Without $40 million just in personnel, that's one in six educators losing positions, which also means increasing class sizes and also demolishing student

programs are available uh that TVD can offer. $40 million is not anything small. It takes us back to the days of 2008 when we had the Rockus board meetings had to do with where to buy toilet paper so that we have enough for all students. Thank you for your time. [Applause] Thank you. Sorry. Thank you. And from our classified

employees association, we have administrator Ruby Alvardo and President Jennifer Chrome. [Applause] >> Good evening, um, board president Dr. Anderson, board members, superintendent Dr. Woods, and members of the community. My name is Ruby Alvarado and I am the current administrator for CSEA Tmacula 538. Today I am joined by the chapter president, Jennifer Crum. So I want to give an a brief update on what we have

going on in the chapter. Since I introduced Jen last week, I didn't have an opportunity to give the community an update. So since June, CSEA has welcomed over 50 new members through new employee orientation, which is a great milestone for this chapter. We now have site representatives at 26 of our 33 school sites, which is also a really big win.

These connections strengthen communication, support members, and help us work more closely to fulfill CSEA's mission to improve the lives of our members, students, and community. I also want to take a moment to thank our classified school employees who serve in support roles across the district. From classrooms to offices, cafeterias to playgrounds, they help create a safe, welcoming, and successful learning

environment for every student. Their work often happens behind the scenes, but it is essential to the daily operations of the district. We also have negotiations this Friday and look forward to a productive session as we continue building a stronger chapter and a stronger community together. Thank you for your continued partnership. Have a great night. >> Thank you. and from our PTA Council

President Stephanie Mcoli All right. Thank you all for the work that you do to keep our schools strong. >> Do we have any student comments at this time? >> Okay, first up is Kylie, followed by Brooklyn. Hi, I'm Kyla Wool. I was one of the girls who spoke at the previous school board meeting with my friend. I want to

start by thanking Dr. K and Miss Wisma. Their support has given me the confidence to speak on an issue that matters deeply to me. Many of the girls at school feel the same way as Brooklyn and I. We don't want to change in front of a biological male and don't want to labor ourselves as mental or religiously

extreme. I know that signing a mental or religious exemption is not the right thing to do because I'm not mentally ill nor extremely religious. Students shouldn't be forced to justify their feelings with a mental or religious label in order for their privacy to be respected. At 12 to 14 years old, we should be busy being kids, not worried

about being forced to change in front of biological males or attach a label to ourselves for being uncomfortable with it. This has consumed our lives for over a month now, and we're looking to you to help us girls feel seen and protected. So, we won't stop until the school board has a better solution other than this accommodation form that mislabels us as

something we're not. Even though I just turned 13, I'm smart enough to know that wanting this privacy amongst my own sex shouldn't require a mental or religious form to make me feel comfortable. I hope you consider never never putting forth policies like this again. And we just want to be kids and have our innocence protected. Thank you.

[Applause] Heat. Thank you. >> Next. >> Okay, next up is Brooklyn Hendris followed by Brooklyn Barbaro. Forgive me if I pronounce that wrong. >> Hi, my name is Brooklyn Hendricks and I spoke at the last board meeting. Today I would like to bring to attention the fact that the solutions that have been proposed are not working and there needs

to be a change. I would like to make it clear that this is not against any specific person and isn't political nor is it religious. This should be this should just be common sense. As of right now, we are going into locker rooms in waves. This is causing us to only have around 10 to 15 minutes of PE in total. Therefore,

this is not a good solution. Falsely signing something saying that we are mentally ill or extremely religious is an even worse solution. This can hurt young girls self-esteem and cause problems that weren't there before. Instead, I ask you to consider better solutions, such as creating separate locker rooms filled with privacy stalls, not only for trans students, but anyone

who is uncomfortable changing in front of people. This solution will help everyone who is uncomfortable for any reason. Thank you. Thank you. Next, Brooklyn, followed by Alina. Hi, my name is Brooklyn Rivero and I go to James O Day Middle School and I would like to talk about the start of change and privacy for all. I first want to say

no one at my school hates a transgender student and we do not support any hate or homophobic comments made about anyone. We love and support her decision to transition. We are protesting for change, not against her. We believe there are better solutions than signing a mental health form. For example, adding curtains or more changing stalls to the locker room or creating a

genderneutral locker room, not just for transgender students, but also for every other boy and girl who have body dysmorphia or severely uncomfortable changing in front of people. These are all better solutions than having us falsely sign forms saying we are mentally ill or extremely religious. I hope you take these plans into consideration and hear our voices. Thank

you for your time. >> Hello, my name is Elena Resto and I'm a student at TVUSD. I would like to discuss the issue with having biological males in a female locker room. To begin with, locker rooms involve undressing, showering, and intimate personal care. This means that females are in a very physically vulnerable state. Sharing these spaces between male and females

can lead to discomfort, embarrassment, and a loss of personal dignity, especially for minors or individuals from conservative or religious backgrounds. Even if no harm is intended, the mere presence of someone of the opposite sex can cause distress to others. Sex segregated locker rooms are a long-standing norm because they respect physical boundaries and social expectations surrounding modesty, especially in environments where people

are exposed or undressed. If the biological male is highly affected by changing in the male's locker room, then they should be offered different accommodations, such as a non-binary locker room or the option to change at the nurse's office. This will help both the females that are uncomfortable with males in their space and the trans students that are uncomfortable changing

in their designated locker rooms. I say no more. No more putting minor females in adult situations. No more biological males in our locker room. So, do we have any comments on the consent items? >> Okay, three comments on the consent items. Who's first? >> Who's first? For consent, we have Janice. >> Hello. >> Oh, sorry, Jan. I'm gonna get that

right. Oscar, followed by Oscar. >> It's the consent agenda. Um, M1 July 21st meeting minutes. >> Okay. at the last board meeting as one of the plaintiffs who filed the ACL lawsuit against the district and seemed proud to have cost the district $23,000 in legal fees just to protect only her and the other plaintiff's first amendment rights implied that I was

threatening litigation because I had asked for corrections to the board meeting minutes. Therefore, I wanted to clarify that I asked for corrections because accurate minutes are essential for transparency, accountability, and public trust. Furthermore, I'd like it noted that I still feel the July 21st minutes are lacking. Under item G3, the minutes do not indicate that the item

was removed with no board discussion about whether public comments would be allowed, nor do they reflect how many public comment slips were submitted on this item. Under item G4, the minutes reflect that the board majority voted to withdraw from further involvement in the sexual harassment UCP CP complaint submitted by Trustee Wesma without raising questions about whether the

district to withdraw jurisdiction. And Trustee Anderson indicated she would not submit her personal letters to outside agency, but but also implied that members of the public should submit complaints. Then a community member indicated during her comment that she would submit a complaint to the civil grand jury. Moreover, it seems likely that Trusty Anderson would have followed through with submitting her letters if

not for the fact that a sworn declaration revealing that she had been dishonest during the sexual harassment investigation was made public before this meeting. But the sworn declaration was not mentioned. And under item 5G, the board majority voted for Fikmat oversight without declaring the scope of the oversight, but indicating it would be connected to Trusty Wearsma's UCP

complaint, even though the board majority had just voted to withdraw from further involvement. And um there was no estimate of the cost involved in this oversight um given. Finally, I also question why the minutes from the August 26, 2025 board meeting were not included on this agenda. Thank you. >> Oscar, is there an Oscar for consent items?

Okay. >> Danny Molina. >> Danny. In accordance with board bylaw 92322, I respectfully request that an item be placed on the September 30th, 2025 board meeting agenda under information report section. Specifically, I'm requesting that Dr. Melinda Anderson and Mr. Email Barham provide a report to the community regarding the recent decision to have an attorney sit on the deis for 5 and a

half hours, have a second attorney present to frontload their justification of reasoning for their attempt to vote in their poorly thoughtout waiverss that failed. we can include the fees for this attorney as well today. Please um in the interest of accountability and transparency, it is important for the community to understand how public funds are being used and whether such

expenditure contributes to improved outcomes for student learning. As elected leaders, board members set the tone for the district, modeling the value of professional conduct while explaining specific cost to having attorneys present for a policy that fell flat on its face. I believe a public report from Dr. Anderson and Mr. Barham would offer valuable insight to the relevance, specific cost, and

justification for the decision to bringing lawyers to force the community into a clinic on why their policy would work. Cuz that's what you guys did. Please consider adding this to the next agenda to ensure thorough reporting and avoid a superficial overview of legal expenses that this warrant list provides. 10 minutes total, five minutes each for Mr. Barham and Dr. Anderson

should be sufficient for this topic. Do these words sound familiar, Dr. Anderson? This is actually the exact verbiage with a few changes from the email from Upneat that's been pulled by the public records report. You now have an opportunity to show the community that you aren't emotional, biased, and controlled by extremists in our community. I hope you're willing to move

as quickly on this request as you did when it was Dr. K and Mrs. Wearsma in the spotlight. Let's see you lead by example. Thank you. >> Oh, she had one. That was the approval of the >> Oh, the approval of the agenda. >> Yes. >> Yeah. Did it not get pulled? >> I'm I apologize. Would you like to speak

now? >> Thank you. >> Okay. Up. >> She filled out a form and Len didn't pull it. >> Show the form. >> Yeah. Hold up the form. There's a form. We just forgot it. Uh uh my comment on the approval of agenda is thank you Mr. Molina for calling it out. I submitted a request for a report

on coast to coast conference which by the local conspiracy theorist has been uh spread around as if there is some conspiracy going on where I am supposedly controlling everybody on the other side. I'm just a mom and uh on somehow I'm also the mafia at the same time. I don't know how both can happen. I'm a software engineer and I have a day

job. So, the other thing is, and if you're making comments on your social media, please remember that you blocked me when I corrected you on spreading misinformation on Prop 28. Uh the agenda item still has not been put over there. Tax funds were spent to send to board members on a conference and we haven't received a report what they did over

there. They spoke about title one, title six over the summer. The funding was blocked. I did not hear a peep out of the two board members. They we had the AI discussion. They did not contribute valuably to the discussion, what they learned at the conference, how they're going to use it, how it's being used in the district. Nothing. They have

provided nothing. Why did we spend $10,000 on that? Thank you. >> Thank you. >> And that agenda item has still not been put. [Applause] >> Okay. So, we're going to go to approval of the agenda. We had the minutes pulled. So, I move to approve consent items 4 through 22 that were not pulled for separate action or tabled. Do I have a second?

>> Second. >> Is there any discussion? Okay. >> Yes. >> Kamoski, >> yes. >> Barham, >> Anderson, >> yes. Student provisional vote. >> Yes. >> Okay. The motion is approved unanimously. Um Mrs. Wearsman, you pulled these minutes again. Did you want to talk about them? >> Yes, I did pull these minutes with three specific corrections. Having heard Mrs.

Hulqua tonight if you can email us a summary of your points if you haven't already. I would like those. But for my three tonight, here's the correction for July 21st, 2025 as the most salient point on page seven. It wasn't acknowledged that Jason Craig brought forward an affidavit with personal testimony regarding President Anderson's dishonesty in the sexual harassment

investigation. M2, correction to minutes for July 22nd, 2025. Page 21, number seven, the Constitution Day policy. Dr. Melinda Anderson agreed to bring back the resolution. Let it be noted in the minutes for tonight that she did not honor her word on that. M3, correction to minutes for public comment for July 29th, 2025. It needed to delineate that as a citizen

and parent speaking on accountability, Mrs. Wearsma was denied her first amendment right to speak by Mr. Barham and Mr. Schwarz. Council later corrected the error. >> Okay. Um I move to approve the minutes without the changes. Do I have a second? >> Second. >> Len, please call role. Short. >> Yes. >> Whereersma? >> Of course not. >> Kamaroski.

>> No. >> Barham. >> Yes. >> Anderson. >> Student vote. >> Yes. Okay. The motion. Point of order. The motion passes um three to two. So let's go. >> So, do we have um public comments? >> Will you see how many we have? Take your time. You're fine. >> Let's count. >> Okay, that's perfect. Okay. So, we're on information and

reports because that was moved um during approval of the agenda. We have Janice for number one. Hi, I filed these because I believe the board has repeatedly failed to comply with the Brown Act. First, the district has been holding special board meetings without justifying the urgency or necessity or justifying that the matter could not wait until the next regular

board meeting as required by the Brown Act. For example, TVUSD held a regular meeting the very next day after the July 21st special meeting, which strongly suggests this special meeting was not justified. In fact, records show that Trusty Anderson Schwarz appeared to be coordinating the content of this meeting as early as June 30th. Furthermore, a sworn declaration was publicly released

on July 16th that indicated Trustee Anderson had been dishonest during the sexual harassment investigation. If anything, the special meeting should have addressed this sworn declaration, not focused on Trustee Anderson's personal letters to outside agencies. Similarly, the July 29th special meeting also lacked justification as the same matter was reapproved at the August 26th board meeting. and the posting of the

September 2nd special meeting before it was taken down reinforces the concern that this board protect particularly Trustee Anderson does not intend to take corrective action. Second, I want to point out that at the July 21st special meeting, an agenda item was pulled without allowing for public comment and the same thing occurred again at the August 26th meeting. Third, despite the

board approving a bylaw that guarantees public comment before or during board discussion and before a vote, this has not been followed. On July 21st, the board concluded the discussions before hearing public public comment. On July 29th, public comments were not allowed until after the vote had already taken place. This raises a serious question. What are the consequences for board

members who fail to comply with their own bylaws? Thank you. [Applause] Okay. Um, we did discuss this in close session. Did you want to comment, Mr. Barham? >> And we have a letter that will be sent. >> Yeah. Um, >> so the only thing that I'd like to say to the speaker, with all due respect, >> the affidavit that you're calling an

affidavit, a sworn statement, is not a sworn statement. >> Point of order. You can't direct conversation to somebody out in the crowd. Mr. >> I'm making a comment. >> Okay, just a minute. That's it. >> Wait just one second. Mr. Let me just take the point of order. Point is well taken. Mr. him. You can speak to the

universe, but please don't. >> That's all I'm going to say. With all due respect, with all due respect, because I want to respect the speaker. >> Okay. >> An affidavit. >> Don't. Yeah. >> It's It's not in this case. The premise of this argument, >> point of order, >> is not >> this document was not a sworn affidavit.

>> It was a letter and it was notorized, but there was no oath taken. And that is my only comment. It is not that letter by Mr. Craig was not a sworn affidavit and that's all I have to say. >> Second warning right here, Brian. >> Okay, I'm going to ask um people when others are speaking just please be

respectful and listen to everyone. Okay, the next um did anyone else have a comment? Okay. Um, and it's so we will be we already have prepared a letter and you'll be receiving a letter. Um, can we say that we're not fine? >> Okay. Are we on to >> the next item is um item two. >> We have three public comments. First is

Janice, followed by Gabriel. >> Did we move this item? >> Okay. So, we're actually going to we move this item to action. >> Oh, it's in information. Never mind. Okay. So, let's go. >> First speaker, Miss Janice, followed by Gabriel. >> Yeah. 02. >> The opt out right here. Okay. Um, trustees Anderson, Barum, and Schwarz, frankly, you should be ashamed

of yourself. Your handling of state law that affirms students rights to use the restrooms and locker rooms consistent with their gender identity has been absolutely horrific. Your approach, including suggestions that parents could opt out their children from using the same facilities as a transgender student by declaring a mental health issue without any professional diagnosis is appalling. Not only does this stigmatize

mental health, it sets a dangerous precedent and creates a hostile environment for transgender students, including what seems to be just one trans girl at one middle school in this district. Um, Trustee Schwarz, your statement that the district will not ask students if they are transgender leaves the door open for anyone to use any facilities without um regard to their

gender identity. that does not make students safer. In fact, it f fosters confusion, fear, and mistrust while further isolating transgender students. And Trusty Barum, when you said the district is trying to work around the law to help families and keep boys from looking at girls parts and girls looking at boys parts, I have to ask, is the

district actually requiring students to strip naked? Why should any student, transgender or not, be forced into a sit situation where they must expose their bodies? Middle and high school students develop at different rates. Many are self-conscious. Some struggle with body dysmorphia, and forcing childrens to change in this way only increases the risks of bullying, eating disorders, and mental

health struggles. Finally, the three of you are exhibiting the opposite of leaderships. Your actions are negligent, discriminatory, and a breach of your fi fidiciary duty to protect the integrity of this district. Instead of fostering a safe and inclusive environment, you are creating division and hostility. Thank you. Thank you. Next. Next speaker is Gabriel. Next speaker is Gabriel, followed by

Daniel Molina. Thank you for your patience. Okay, >> you finished talking, R. We're just discussing the parliamentary procedure and whether or not people are on topic and we're going to let the public continue to speak whether they're so that's what you think. Okay. Go ahead. >> Okay. Thank you. First of all, it's uh very shameful that children should have to come up here and

defend themselves to adults of having to deal with nobody on this panel ever had to go to school and worry about the opposite sex coming into the restroom while you were in the bathroom. Now, I'm here to tell you a story about my son on May 21st. He's a 10year-old boy and a girl came into the bathroom and watched him while

he was using the restroom. When he came out, he went and told five teachers and you know what every single one of them said? Yeah, we know about that. So when I picked him up from school and he told me, "Daddy, something happened today." When he told me what happened, I immediately sent emails to his teacher, principal, vice principal. I got a call

the next day from the vice principal telling me, "Hey, you know, pretty much our hands are tied. There's nothing we can do." And so I asked, I said, "So, do you realize that you've opened the door to unlimited scenarios?" >> Yeah. >> To where boys can start going into the bathrooms and touching girls and vice versa. So, it's not just girls, this is

children. That's >> right. And then I, if I'm not mistaken, I saw everyone get up and put their hand over their heart and say the pledge allegiance under God. Then I've heard church mentioned and I'm assuming you're Christian, right? So if we're talking about Christianity, then we're talking about God's laws, correct? >> Okay. Let me read you what Jesus said

when it comes to children. Matthew 18, it says, "At that time, the disciples came up and asked Jesus, who then is really the greatest in the kingdom of heaven? And he called a little child to himself and put him in the midst of them and said, "Truly I say to you, unless you repent, >> change, turn about, and become like

little children, trusting, lowly, loving, forgiving, you can never enter the kingdom of heaven at all. Whoever will humble himself therefore and become like this little child, trusting, lowly, loving, forgiving, is the greatest in the kingdom of heaven. And whoever receives and accepts and welcomes um this little child like this for my sake and in my name receives and accepts

and welcomes me. That's Jesus speaking. But whoever causes one of these little ones who believe in and acknowledge and cleave to me to stumble and sin, that is who entices him or hinders him in right or wrong conduct or thought. It would be better, more expedient and profitable or advantageous for him to have a great milestone. >> Thank you.

[Applause] One more. Daniel Molina. >> Um, I would like to thank uh Dr. Woods. I saw that this was on the agenda on the 2nd and your name was on it. So, thank you for that, sir. Um the the important thing to point out here is that parents have rights. We don't have to wait for you to create

policy to exercise our rights. And and the issue the issue that I'm having is it took this situation for our district to say, "All right, let's unleash the bag and let the parents know they have rights." And I think that is extremely disrespectful. You know, in the May meeting, you said something, Mr. Barham, when the privacy document was presented,

you said, "Yeah, but if if 30 kids, 30 parents present it, it's going to overload the staff." And even Mrs. Wearsma said, "Yeah, yeah, your priority is protecting the district, not representing parents, and that is not your job up here." Listen, I understand. I understand. We have elected officials and we have staff members. And to the staff members, you

guys do a great job. I would never go after any of you. I think you do your best. I understand your hands are tied. But to the elected officials, it is on you to represent us and keep us informed. You know, one thing that nobody's talking about, just recently, just recently, they put uh uh uh menstrual material in the boys' bathroom

in Crown Hill Elementary. Okay, just recently they did that and I understand what you're going to say. Ed code, ed code. Well, let me let me talk about ed code because I did the research. In 2022, they passed ED code. It was 6th grade to 12th. Then in 2023, they changed it down to third grade for whatever reason. And and what EDC code

says is on or before the 2425 school year, which was last year, on or before, we did not meet that deadline. So now it's 2526 and you guys are rushing to meet the needs of the demand of EDC code. You should have demanded EDC code to restate their policy because we are not on or before. Their policy should

say on before or after. But it doesn't. And you didn't say well you know what you guys got to remake the policy. None of you did. Parents need to know. We need to know like when we pass this policy God willing it does pass the privacy rights. All parents need to sign this. And here's why. Is because the

district and the teachers and the staff cannot tell any of us if there is a trans student in the bathroom. The only way you will know is if your child experiences that. So if you fill out this policy and submit it, it puts the onus on the school to ensure the privacy of your child. Remember that and don't

forget it. Do better board. Help the parents. inform us. >> Thanks. Thank you. This is a document our entire team has been working on. All of these opt out options currently exist right now and are being utilized in the school district. We know this is a hot button topic. We are actually audited on a federal and state level to make sure we

do this. It's currently required. But it's amazing when you start going through this how many options parents really have to opt kids out of a variety of things. >> Mrs. D Point of order. >> That's the first warning. Thank you. Um >> Mrs. D has >> Yeah. Thank you, Dr. Woods, and thank you, governing board. Um and thank you

for the opportunity to explain this document and just wanted to say on behalf of staff, our appreciation for your ongoing commitment to ensuring that parents are informed and as Dr. Woods noted that there are a lot of opt out opportunities and options. In fact, if you're a parent in this district, and I'm assuming some of you out here are,

um, I am, we got our email yesterday that was our opt out form for the survey. And we are really good at being timely and within law for opt out timelines, especially as they relate to grade level optouts and uh secondary versus elementary optouts. So there's a lot of different optouts that happen depending on the grade level of your student and uh what

they're going to be encountering through that year. So, one year may not look the same as a parent for optouts as another year. Or you might have multiple students. At one point, I had elementary, middle, and high school all represented, all different optouts. But my point is is that I think that sometimes what happens in the midst of

all the information and the quest for information because our cabinet works in alignment with the board in consistently trying to inform parents and answering questions for whatever comes forward in transparent ways. that we are looking at things sometimes through a deficit mindset of all the things that we have access to but we don't know where to find it. And

so the inspiration behind this document, thank you to the governing board was parents, there's one spot for you to go to see all the places that you can access this or know that it will be coming to you when it's the appropriate grade level. Um, there are some optouts that you may not even need to worry about till your students in eighth

grade. And so I think that with all this information, we get a little wrapped around the axle sometimes of all of the places we need to go. So we wanted to look at it not from a deficit mindset but really on behalf of our families that we trust and support so readily from an asset oriented mindset that this

is a document that demonstrates all those places you can go or where you can wait for the information. So thank you Dr. Woods. I appreciate the work on this form and I hope all of you take the time to read through it. I would make one other suggestion. I know we mentioned the surveys here. I think that privacy from

tests, questioning or assignments that probe the student or family's beliefs, practices, customs regarding something like gender identity, sex, sexual orientation, political views, morality, family life or religion. I think that is a very important caveat to delineate in this form because we are dealing with an issue right now where that does in fact happen in one of our high school

classrooms and we need to honor these parents who prefer that there is never any form of proitizing propaganda unbalanced viewpoints and I think this district needs to call it out and deal with it the parents and make sure our children are protected in this capacity. [Applause] Um, and I wanted to uh bring this up um this work in terms of N5 when we talk about

the religious and privacy exemption because there's already work behind some of these optouts. For example, under how do I request a privacy accommodation for my student for shared facilities, if you click on that, and you can't, but I got this. If you click on it, here's some of the questions because I think what needs to happen, Mr. DeMarco and

Dr. Kamaroski and Dr. Anderson is the questions that you created on that form need to go in here because it's more contained and it's more private instead of just having those questions on a form. I'm going to make that suggestion because here's some of the questions that are already in here which are very similar to what you're going to present

in N5. Um >> to clarify, you're talking about the new opt out form. >> Yes. The one you're going to talk about in N5. There's already some >> And that Dr. Dr. Deco's my new opt out form. >> Yes. And I think some of those questions could very easily go in here because it's more private and more contained

than just a piece of paper. So I can just tell you for example what's in here right now under privacy which is very similar to what you guys did. What is the nature of your concern regarding your students privacy? It's already in there. What accommodation are you requesting to ensure your students right to privacy? It's already in there. Do you have any

additional information you would like to share in regards to this request for privacy for your student? So, I guess what I'm asking for is that when we get to N5, if we approve the policy, that those questions be placed instead of on a piece of paper in here. >> Thank you. >> Okay. >> Any other comment about Okay.

>> All right. We're going to go to action items. Um, >> yeah, Dr. Anderson, real quickly. Sorry. >> Did you have comment? Okay. >> Yeah. I wanted to thank um Dr. Woods and Mrs. Deis hopped on the phone with me last week and they were going over what they wanted to agendaize that was supposed to happen that last Tuesday.

The meeting got cancelled and postponed. I just want to give a shout out to the district for taking action because I know things were happening in the community and it was a little unsettling and I'm glad that you both came together with other admin and tried to provide realtime solutions to parents and now we're talking about that now. But I just

want to give a shout out for that. And then part of that language I put into the AR because I didn't know that this was coming back to the meeting. So that's a shout out to Mrs. Davis and Dr. Woods for that language because I didn't know if we're going to see this or not because I don't approve the agenda. So

anyways, thank you. >> Um Dr. Karaski, I actually want to agree with you on that. I think that it's it's kind of been ugly how we got to this point, but I really feel like our district needed to address this with more scrutiny um and more seriousness. So, um I do agree with Dr. Kamaroski like it isn't pretty how we got here and I

know that we have on on our agenda to resend the other information related to this. Um but in the end the goal is to provide more privacy and it wasn't that we were trying to force the district's hand but I do think it brought it to everyone's attention that we need to address this with the families that are asking for

more privacy. So, um I do agree and I want to thank the district for working on it. Um is there any other comment? >> Yeah, just real quickly based on the uh number of emails and uh communications I got and I just want to remind people in the audience if you want an answer from your representative, just send your

email to that person. When you send an email to the superintendent, the cabinet, every member of the board, the policy is the president of the board is the one that responds. So, if you live in my trustee area and you want an answer to something, if you send it to me, I will answer you. And I just want

to go along with um my fellow board members. This is an issue we're all wrestling with. This is not something easy to deal with. Um, this is something that affects not only the the students but the staff and us and the cabinet. And we're trying to work out a solution that works for everyone. We don't want anyone to be punished. We don't want

anyone to be singled out. We don't want anyone to be embarrassed. We don't want anyone in a position where they're uncomfortable. So hopefully by the end of the night, what we do come up with and propose will be good for everyone involved. Thank you. Thank you, >> Dr. Will. Shout out to you, too, when I was mentioning Mrs. Davis and Dr.

>> All right. So, now we're going to move on to action and let's see, we've got the public hearing >> number one. >> Yes. But I believe that when we get to um number five, I thought it was really valuable that the board got to have discussion and then public comment and then action because it allows the

there's a lot of different um there's some misinformation and I think that people are going to make comment on um ideas that are may not be after it's like they're going to comment and then we're going to talk about and they're going to find out that their comment was moot. So, I would like to ask the board

if we can do what we did last time, if we can deliberate as a board, take public comment, and then take action that's within the guidelines of the Brown Act. Do I have consensus to do that? >> I oppose that. I want to hear from the public first. >> Okay. >> Point of order. >> Public comment should always come before

deliberation. >> That is best practices and what we should honor from people to being here tonight. I think there's going to be a lot of confused comments that are going to speak on speak with due process. >> Okay. >> Then we won't do that. Um >> the next item is action item number one. >> How long? >> Do we have any public comment?

>> No. Okay. Okay. I move to schedule a public hearing for September 30th, 2025 meeting regarding resolution number 2025-26-05, sufficiency of textbooks and instructional materials compliance for fiscal year 202526. >> Second. >> Is there any discussion? Len, will you please call role? Schwarz, >> yes. >> Wersma, >> Kamoski, >> Barham, >> Anderson, >> yes. The motion is Oh, I'm so sorry.

>> Yes. Okay. The motion is approved unanimously. Um, next is the I move to adopt the resolution number 2025-267 for wire transfer payments. >> Second. >> Is there any discussion? >> Okay. Len Schwarz. >> Yes. >> Wersma. >> Kamoski. >> Barham. >> Yes. Anderson. >> Yes. Do >> Yes. >> Melissa, I'm gonna sit you right next to

me next. Okay. The motion is approved unanimously. Um I move to adopt resolution number 202526-08 adopting the GN limit. >> Do I have a second? >> Second. >> Is there any discussion? Len Schwarz. Yes. >> Wearsma. >> Yes. >> Kamroski. >> Barham. >> Anderson. >> Yes. Student vote. >> Yes. >> The motion is approved unanimously. I move to approve the 2024-25

unodudited actuals financial report. Do I have a second? >> Second. >> Is there any discussion? >> Yes. I just I just want to thank Mrs. Lash for all her work. I I don't know if people realize we're talking about $450 million budget and the fact that when we actually get an audit, her projection is with half a within half a percent of the

projected budget and to have someone with that kind of skill on board is really amazing and I just want to thank her for all her work. >> Thank you. Um, Len, will you call? >> Schwarz, >> yes. >> Wearsma, >> Kamoski, >> Barham, >> Anderson, >> yes. >> Student vote, >> The motion passes unanimously. Okay. So, now we have a amend board

policy 5145.3 and resend the previous policy that was adopted by the board and administrative regulation. Um, can we just clarify, Dr. Kamaraskki, you're you still want your name on this because you worked with Mr. Demarco and myself on it, >> correct? >> Okay, let's go ahead. How many public comments do we have? >> 27. >> 27. How many minutes?

>> One. One. One. >> One. >> Just kidding. >> I know. We've got >> one. Okay. So, we have one minute for each comment. Um, the first person >> I need a minute. >> I'd like to reconsider two. They brought their best here and has spent the time listening to our 45minute delay in getting this meeting started. Give them

two minutes at least. >> For two minutes. >> First up is Julian Murray Cibby followed by Edgar Alvarez. You should get three minutes. >> Thank you. >> First up is Julian. >> Is this on? My name is Julian Murray Cibby and I'm a TVD employee. I'm born and raised here by two teachers. As students addressed earlier on, I also

advocate for the addition of private spaces and accommodations for all students. But there's a room full of people here tonight who want to deny the existence of trans people. Parents fearful of the unknown. Just people who simply wish to protect those they love from those they don't understand. I identify as trans and it's my responsibility to stand firmly as a

member of my community in solidarity with those who cannot speak here tonight for fear of retaliation. While I don't expect everyone to understand what it feels like to be misaligned with their gender, we all know what it feels like to not live up to the ideal of a man or a woman. We bully ourselves and others when we fall

short of these ideals. We judge others and how they navigate life and how they identify politically, religiously, culturally, and at the root is the fear that we will never be enough for our parents, our partners, our children. But this fear does not protect. It only fers and morphs into hatred. Thank you. >> Next up is Edgar Alvarez, followed by

Sylvie Ajo. My name's Edgar Alvarez. Thank you guys. And it's just appalling that that we have to come here and defend a common sense issue. This is not about a political issue. This is not a religious issue. It's common sense that boys change with boys and girls change with girls. What What has happened here? Have you pulled your brains out and played

with them? >> This is not that difficult. You say it's a difficult issue to navigate. It truly isn't. Everywhere else, people know where to go to the restroom. That's why they're labeled as male and female. And for you, Emil, you're as a man, you're supposed to, you're called to be a leader and protector and protect these girls and lead in a professional and

honest manner. You should be ashamed of yourself as a man. And I won't offend any female here, but I'll ask you, would you like me to watch your woman, your wife change into the in the restroom? I bet you wouldn't. So, why would you expect that for any of these young girls? Shame on you. Thank you, Sylvie.

Sylvie, followed by Jack. >> Sylvie followed by Jack. >> Hello. So, it's unbelievable how we have to come here today. >> Can you hear me? Hello. Hello. It's unbelievable how we have to come here today to speak on this policy that degrades young women, biological young women. You guys are so caught up in protecting trans youth. You guys are

forgetting to protect biological girls. >> You guys are bullies wanting them to feel like they have a mental health issue because they're not comfortable changing in front of biological boys. That's that's crazy. That is I don't understand how you guys think that's common sense and right and fair for them. The ones who need to fill out those forms are the little boys who are

confused thinking that they are females, >> not our biological daughters. You guys need to do better by our daughters. Protect them. Let them feel heard. Having them to take five minutes extra to change in the bathroom because they don't want to change in front of a biological boy. Do you want your daughter to see a penis? Even though

that young man wants to identify as a female, he still has male parts as a straight man. Tell me how that's fair to them. You guys need to do better by our daughters. Jack Marston, followed by just one mom. Hello. Hello. Good evening, school board. When is enough enough? Trans people are less than 1% of the population of California.

So, why are we catering to them? So, these biological males can undress and expose themselves in front of biological females. This is absolutely ridiculous. And these girl students deserve better and should not be labeled as mentally ill or extreme for just wanting the basic necessity of privacy. Thank you. Emil, you still owe me that apology for sitting on my DIS and labeling me a

terrorist because I spoke here in Tmacula warning parents about this insane mental health policy and what it meant for their children. A policy you claimed as a victory for parental rights, affirming students dignity and privacy when it is the exact opposite. You should have listened to me. You may have been an educator for over 30 years, but there's one lesson you seem to have

not learned. That's the lesson of Fafo. I may be just one mom and just one voice, but Tmacula parents listened and they are fighting for their children's right. If you FA with the children, you're going to get the FO and all these parents and America is giving you the FO right now. This is going to be your legacy, Emil,

your legacy. Thank God you don't have children of your own. rescend this policy and resign. >> Mary Davis next. >> Mary Davis followed by Savannah. >> Mary Davis and then Savannah. >> Hi, good evening. Mary Davis. and I held my raised my arm and I held the constitution and I was told that I was not allowed to do that and that is a

violation of my first amendment right and I want this district health to account for that. Now for the privacy accommodation there should not even be the need for accommodation. It's called the 14th amendment. The privacy and the equal protections clause has already been established by the Supreme Court. So, knock off the nonsense of telling the girls that they're a problem and

have to come up with some phantom reason for wanting their dignity and privacy respected. Honor their personal autonomy and their freedom and common sense. We're in an upside down state. Please let the girls be valued and let them know that you value and uphold them and that you are not prioritized. >> Thank you. >> Thank you, >> Savannah.

followed by Jennifer San Nicholas, Savannah, and then Jennifer San Nicholas. Okay. Um, good evening. My name is Savannah and I'm a mom of three in this district. Um, we need to get rid of this ridiculous mental health crap. Um, I'm here tonight to show my support for the new student accommodation request form by Dr. K because we finally have a form

that respects families and protects students privacy and doesn't shame kids for having needs. I want to thank Dr. Kay and Jen for listening to parents, legal experts, and the community for making a version of privacy that makes sense. Um I'm also a believer in accountability and so I want to make say this clearly. Um Emil Baram, you are one

of the people responsible for this mental health accommodation form. Um a form that requires students to declare themselves as mentally ill just because students do not want to change in front of the opposite sex. You made our district a laughingstock of the country, making national and even international news. Well, news flash, needing privacy is not a medical condition, and wanting

to feel safe and supported is not a disorder. If we're going to do better, then let's start by owning the mistakes of that first form and recognizing the harm it has caused to parents and kids. I hope you'll take responsibility for that and support this new form, which actually puts students first. Thank you, Jennifer San Nicholas, followed by

Christine Masa. So, um I believe a blanket privacy policy is the way to go. Um I believe all students deserve privacy and to feel safe at school. To be clear, the previous proposed policy was never voted in, never enacted, never enforced despite some on despite what some on social media said. even though they don't even go here. Members of this

board have railed on and on about local control. Yet, you have people from Florida influencing policy in Tmacula. I am hoping the board will listen to the people of Tmacula, the parents of TVUSD especially, rather than outside agitators, some of whom have felony rap sheets that could rival those in a biker bar or the Mos Eisley Cantina. Today, a

robocall went out blaming one board member for the draft of a policy that was never put into place nor written by that trustee. Dirty tricks and lies are not very Christian of you. Everyone, let's just do a blanket policy and get back to business of educating our kids who are wasting time and money. >> Thank you, >> Christine Masa followed by Cali Mom.

>> Hello. Actual TBUSD parent of three kids and I also actually read the agenda. So, I have a procedural matter to start with. At the June 10th meeting, only the amended policy for 5145.3 was approved and the exhibits were removed from the motion and not approved. So, I don't believe they need to be formally rescended because they were never

approved. Just pull them from consideration as the agenda shows. Um, regarding 5145.35, it's moot as evidenced by the cases already handled at DMS and the proposed communication from Mrs. Dis and Dr. Woods. The district already knows how to handle these situations. Um, we don't need additional documentation on that. However, if you insist on a policy of this type, remove the words sex

segregated and simply reference shared facilities as O2 does. There's other shared facilities that have nothing to do with gender or sex, like a school gym where they may play the national anthem and kids may not want to remove their religious headwear. Um, some of these reasons have nothing to do with gender. They just have to do with being a kid.

So, take those into account and just make >> Thank you. Uh, Cali Mom followed by Upnate. >> My name is Antwinet Jensen and I am not someone who comes here. Does that mean I'm an outside agitator, too? >> Because guess what? I'm a teacher, a mandatory reporter who made a report and lost my job for standing for a student

who was allegedly sexually assaulted. >> Is that a problem, too? >> Who? >> Miss Wearsma. I had the uniform process, uniform complaint process go against me. I lost my job. I can't support my family. It's wrong what they did to you. And I just wanted to remind you Psalm 37, do not fret because of evildoers. For they will

soon fade like the grass. And I stand here in faith that corruption will not stand forever and that light will outstand the darkness. I stand with you. Jesus hears you and his word does not go void. Amen. >> Thank you. Upnate followed by Miss Strange. I guess I'll have to speed it up a little bit. Two of the board members

stood outside DMS protesting the existence of a transgender student. So, it does not matter what policy you pass today, it will be considered discriminatory and targeting that one child. Uh, the irony of the next statement is not lost on me and I'm quoting President Trump. Republicans believe in the rule of law, not the rule of mob. The 14th Amendment guarantees

equal protections for everyone, including the girls. They should not have to fill out forms to have their privacy respected when a simple statement to the teacher should suffice. Documentation is only warranted if a teacher ordered admin suspects that there is a problem with somebody abusing ed code 2215 and your policy does not address that. The privacy and free

exercise clause has already been litigated in parents for privacy versus bar in the ninth cir ninth circuit made it clear. Parents may direct the upbringing of their own child but they cannot dictate district policy on how the school treats other students. The mere presence of a transgender student does not violate anyone's privacy. All students deserve to feel safe and

valued, not treated as pawns in political games. This is a nuanced topic that deserves thought. >> Thank you, Miss Strange. Miss Strange, followed by Jenny Sigura. Millions are watching Tmacula Valley Unified. From Riley Gaines to White House attorney Har Dylan, this policy falls short. It must clearly state no boys in girls spaces or sports and vice versa. Period. Districts have already

lost in court. Jessica Tapia of Riverside County was fired for refusing boys in girls locker rooms. She sued and she won. Others have followed since and none have lost. Girls don't need an exemption. Nobody needs an exemption. Follow the legal state laws. Following the legal state laws are no excuse. Federal law rules. You ask what to do. Fight. Fight. Fight.

Fight. Nuome. Fight. California. Nobody. No child needs an exemption. Girls, parents, and teachers, if boys are still allowed in your girls private spaces, do not comply. Do not comply. Thank you. Next, Jenny. Jenny. >> Hi, I'm Kylie's mom. I'm so proud of you for using your voice, baby girl. Good job. I'm here because she asked me for help.

I have questions for the board members who came up with this terrible form that tried to label our kids. Anderson, Barham, Schwarz, is this the best you can do for our kids and for our community? Why did you wait on this serious matter? Congratulations. You three now are responsible for bringing politics and bad policy to our kids.

You guys have to face the fact that children are pleading with you to advocate for them and to protect their rights. I suggest you all start to take this seriously because you have our attention and now our kids. Start making policies for the next generation of voters. It looks like the majority are raising kids to advocate for themselves

and fight back. Melinda, this was poorly led by you and I suggest before you allow any more damage, you consider resigning. Let the people who are more educated on this subject to actually care for our kids and handle creating policies for the community. Time >> then followed by Gabriel. >> Okay board uh Melinda Emil Schwarz you guys are trying to back step now. It's

obvious to everybody. You guys got chilled out on the last meeting. You know, you guys got embarrassed. You got ridiculed and all that, but you deserve it for being so stupid, right? I said it last time. Um I'm I'm going to tell you, um as as board as board members, as leaders, you know, you you were chosen

by the community to lead, right? And you're you're a bad example. Um you're causing division in the community. When when these middle school girls got up and shared their heart to be protected, you know, this side clapped, this side didn't clap, right? So, you got a community that's divided. You see that? It's because of what you're doing. You

know, you're not united and because you because you're separated, you're spreading the community. So, be united as far as the kids and their safety. You know, understand that girls need protection that boys should not be in the restrooms. Agree to that. You know, I mean, I know you want to you want to back away from that, which is fine, you

know, but understand that the little girls that came up here and shared their hearts, this side did not clap. And that's due to you guys, okay? What you've done, you've divided the community instead of standing strong and supporting the girls, you've allowed this to happen. Thank you. >> Is there a Gabriel? Okay. Next is Lindsay. Is there a Lindsay?

>> Okay. No. >> For N6, not >> followed by Christopher. And then Kristen followed by Christopher. Let's talk about Over the Rainbow. It's a great book. I see lies, ugliness, and evil from this school board. I saw one man without any compassion in his heart, a body of empty tin. Another man who clearly doesn't have any brains,

Emil and is a complete straw man. and a woman who should be a lioness because she's got a daughter not even affected in this district and you are a coward. You're not defending our daughters doesn't affect your daughter as you claim to be Christians and people of faith. Shame on each one of you. You are protecting the wizard behind the curtain

blaming it. It's just Governor Nuome. We're following state policy when federal law is on your side. His wicked henchmen Tony Thurman and Rob Bont as well. Girls, you have always had the power to take back Title 9. Refuse to comply. We will be faithful. We will defend you. And you stand with great women who never wanted this battle but

are winning. One, two, three. Take back your legal rights. >> Thank you. Christopher. >> Yes. >> Okay. Followed by Will. >> Good evening board. My name is Christopher Belout. I'm a local parent, local patriot. It's a it's a travesty that we even have to come and and defend this. But um Miss Anderson, you've become a national embarrassment. You've brought disgrace

and shame to our district. Your incompetence is astounding. And Mr. Barham, you are no better. You've done nothing but undermine from day one with your coup d'etatah every conservative every idea that Mr. that Mr. Kamaroski and Miss Wearsman have brought forth and you sit there with that smug grin on your face. It's just just oozing with arrogance and smuggness. You should be

ashamed of yourself. I'm surprised nobody brought this uh further, but um I submit that anyone any teacher, lawmaker or administrator or trustee uh who supports this should be held liable under >> next is who? Will [Applause] >> followed by Greg. >> All right. Um I'm just going to go and say I don't think that my daughter should have a to do a forum to protect

her right to privacy. I think there's a lot better options. Um I build schools for a living. The past seven years I've built genderneutral spaces for kids. So, and I know that those take time, they take money, but there are temporary spaces that could be implemented in less than a week. So, why has that not been brought up as an option? Everyone should

have their respect to privacy. Everyone, you guys are all so brave. Everyone came up, said their words. Just protect our kids. Stop making them political ponds. They're not your political ponds. They're our children. That's right. >> And they're the future. >> So, thank you guys. That's right. >> Thank you, Greg. Um, Greg, followed by Rosie. So, real quick, I want to thank you,

Joseph, Emil, Melinda, Jen, Stephen for for your courage in dealing with this issue. Many districts have avoided this issue and that's one way you can stop the controversy is you just don't talk about it. So, thank you for doing that. Um, I think you're on solid legal ground doing what you're doing. Um, you all take a note to the Constitution. We say

the pledge of allegiance. We hold these truths to be self-evident that all men are created equal. They're endowed by their creator with certain inalienable rights. And God created male and female. So you are just supporting our foundational document when you do this. So I do appreciate the work that you're doing. So thank you. >> Thank you. [Applause]

>> Then we have Rosie followed by Priscilla. >> All right. So I want to talk about trans terrorism by Matt Walsh. Trans ideology is anti-Christian, anti-God, and anti-traditional family. It is demonic and it permeates every facet of our lives. From Miss Rachel's preschool YouTubetubes to Disney, Budlight, Starbucks, Olympics, and state schools, children's throats everywhere they go. Transgenderism is a decision to in pride

turn your back on Jesus Christ. Decide that you will make yourself in your own image, live a life of self- worship, and adopt a new name in the >> Pause this and reset our time. That late, somebody right here has got their phone on. It's very disturbing. >> Yeah. Can we shut that off and reset her time? That's really unprofessional. I

don't know who it is. I don't know who it is. >> Dr. Kamaskki, you interrupted her. Keep going. >> I am doing it because somebody's interrupting. >> I think I I think you should start my time because the entire time her phone was going on >> the entire time. I would like my minute back, please. Thank you so much.

>> Does the board want to give her another minute? >> Absolutely. >> Whoever's got the phone on, please don't turn it on. Okay. Trans Terrorism by Matt Walsh. Trans ideology is anti-Christian, anti- good, and anti-traditional family. It is demonic and it permeates every facet of our lives. From Miss Rachel's preschool YouTubetubes to social media, Disney, Target, Bud Light, Starbucks, Olympics,

legislators, counselors, teachers, and state schools, which are indoctrination camps. All these entities by design have crafted an agenda through lies and propaganda that is forced down our precious children's throats everywhere they go. Transgenderism is a decision to in pride turn your back on Jesus Christ. Decide that you will make yourself in your own image. Live a life of self-

worship and adopt a new name in the process. Know who else did this? Satan. Here are the statistics that no one is talking about. Mass shooting rates by demographic from 2015 to 2025 posted on X. Public incidents within four or more fatalities expressed as rates per million. Trans and non-binary males zero. >> Okay, >> Priscilla. Priscilla. >> Brian, come walk her off.

>> Walk her out. Thank you. Everything's been said. The four girls said it all. I'm just a grandmother and I can't believe this is happening. and modesty and personal being um I don't know I should have wrote a script out but um it's just um the more things are going to come on down the line if the restrooms are opened people

have incest people have rapes people have a lot of issues more shit's going to happen if you let this one little thing I know a lady that was with a woman for 20 years and now she's happily married to a man. So children don't know exactly where they're at, what they're doing at a young age. And sterilization is real. It's deep.

It's deep on the psychology. And I don't know, I'm just a grandma and this is >> I agree. >> Okay. D. Daniel followed by Daniel followed by Sophie. >> I'd like to first address the straw man argument I keep hearing cuz I'm tired of it. Nobody's up here. This is nothing to do with denying the existence of trans

people. It has nothing to do with that. And it makes me so the the fact that this is a they're talking over me. Dr. Anderson, can you please uh give me 10 seconds? >> I'm gonna call quiet. Keep going. >> Okay. Uh the fact that we're having this conversation actually acknowledges trans people. And the fact that adults in the

room are telling our youth trans that people hate them is so disgusting and despicable. I have young children and let me tell you something. If my children decided to be trans and they were set on it, the first thing I tell them is they're not a victim and they don't get to tell other people how to think or believe how they think. And

that's how the adults should be teaching these young people. And it's just disgusting to see. The reason why we're here is because we've been put in the spotlight again. And it's embarrassing. You guys brought forward this policy. Email. I told you that this was horrible. You told me I should move and you bashed me in my platform. And now

look at where we're sitting. How embarrassing is this? We're only here because you guys didn't listen to the community. And that's the truth. >> is there a Sophie? Okay, next is Patty. Oh, Sophie. Okay, come on up. Sophie, followed by Patty. The three of you board members who want to label girls as mental health issues or religious because they don't want to

change in a restroom with a male or a locker room with a male is beyond disgusting. Dr. Anderson, as a woman, if a man came into the room you were in changing and he changed next to you, he started watching you change. Would you have a mental health issue because you're not okay with that? Would you be

deemed religious because you're not okay with that? Or is that sexual assault? But what happens to the girls in your district? You want to label them mental health or religious. You should be disgusted to be working towards the eraser of female spaces and to be working to harm these young females that are here. Also, let's talk about the

fact that in your district, if you were to have a student start peeing on a bush in the middle of campus because they identify as a dog or a cat, >> is that going to be allowed next? Or do are we going to recognize then that identities don't use restrooms, don't use locker rooms, bodies do. Protect the

girls. They should feel safe at school. Thank you. >> And then the last is Jessica. Jessica. Okay. Good evening board. My name is uh Patricia Kabada. I am here because I'm a biological woman and I'm here to defend the rights of biological girls. The rights that all of you keep st You keep disrespecting the biological girls that

are here in your district. It is so sad to have to see young ladies have to come here to defend themselves to have to ask to be able to undress in privacy. I'm sorry. It saddens me as a woman to listen to the fear in the young girls' voices. It saddens me as a mother to have to see

young ladies have to come up here to a podium to defend themselves. And as just as a concerning woman, my heart goes out to them because they have to listen to ridiculous adults that badger them, that name call them. >> Okay, All right, that's it for public comments. We're gonna Oh, did you Oh, are you Jessica? >> Yes, ma'am.

>> Oh, I thought that I had I thought that was Jessica. I'm so sorry, Jessica. >> So, normally I'm a very intense person. I've worked in the ER for a very long time. I don't think that that is what this calls for. I think what this calls for is I have a lot of questions. First one, how can a

minor sign a legal document >> without a parent? Is there a line for the parents? How did we even not even hear about this? I had to find out about this on social media. Like, how sad is that? >> Are you a doctor? Are you a medical doctor? Are you a psych professional? Because I work with those people.

They think this is asinine. >> Okay. H how long is it going to take to implement this? There are suggestions of how it could be implemented quicker. You don't have a plan for that. What's your plan of action if someone is raped or something happens? Yeah. >> What are the consequences? Because not saying that a trans person, I'm saying

that when boys get in there >> that have that idea in their head, they have testosterone. Like you're asking for things to happen like protect our girls. Jesus time. Okay. So, I'm going to make the motion and then we'll discuss. Okay. I'm going to ask some clarifying questions and I don't want for my clarifying questions because I'm going to first make my

statements and ask clarifying questions. Okay. So, first I'm going to move to resend the mental health and religious accommodation language in board policy 5145.3. Rescend the accompanying Well, we don't have to resend the exhibits, but I'll we can resend the accompanying exhibit and adopt new board policy and administrative regulation as written by Mr. DeMarco and worked on

by Dr. Kamroski and myself. 5145.35 privacy accommodation student privacy in sex segregated facilities and related form do I have a second thank you >> comment >> okay what so um give me a second okay >> give me a second >> um okay so just give me a second >> um I actually I >> got all your time back

>> I I I'm gonna ask will you guys just I was very quiet while you spoke. Will you just please >> start again? >> Go ahead. Take your personal privilege. She's going to talk. You know what she's going to say. >> Can we take a two-minute recess, >> please? >> No, you're good. Just Yeah, mind. We're good. We're good.

>> Never mind. >> Okay. I I think I need >> I'll call for a two-minute recess. Thank you very much. resign. Melinda, >> did you Look how everyone left. [Music] >> You can give it to him. >> I'll have you. Would you like to just engage in your conversation with us two minutes twice go back and forth?

>> Okay. Okay. We're ready to get started now. It's so noisy. Can we can we get people to settle down? Mr. Barham, >> Dr. Mr. Barham Emil, someone tell him. >> Get him over here. Everyone wants to talk. >> Nobody wants >> what? >> Yeah, they just talk and then they post it on social media. >> Mr. Schwarz, Mr. Barham.

>> Yeah, >> Miss Wearsman, can we get the meeting back going? >> He didn't sign up. He signed up in the wrong time. >> But isn't general contest that we >> go sit down, please? I I don't take comments from you. >> Okay. >> Okay. We're going to get back started. Thank you for your patience. >> Okay. Well, we we'll figure out the

public comments in just a minute. Okay. Um, I I want to take the pressure off of Mr. Schwarz and Mr. Barham and take responsibility for this policy. A few years ago, one of my friends came to me because her child was in this district dressing in a locker room with an opposite sex person. And when she approached the district in the

administration um group being female is a protected group and we weren't satisfied with the answer that there's nothing you can do about it. So, we looked at other protected groups to find a workaround to get the kids out of the locker room. And these may have been bad ideas, but I'm okay with that because it's giving us

solutions that we need. growing up, I want people to consider this. Growing up, I always thought the most powerful man in the world was the president of the United States was Ronald Reagan at the time. And I still think today the most powerful man in the world is the president of the United States. President Trump, the most

powerful man in the world, has signed an executive order that says boys cannot play in girls sports. But here in California, we still have boys playing in girls sports. That's because even the most powerful man in the world is having a difficult time fighting California laws. I believe that this matter will be settled in a few years either by the

Department of Education or the Supreme Court. But until then, we were looking at workarounds so that people didn't have to be in sex segregated spaces if they didn't want to. So I want I want to also say at the last meeting I asked people to help like help us come up with a solution for this problem. like, okay, I get it. Mental

health, it was probably it actually obviously is a terrible idea, but it is a protected class and it is a protected class and we weren't giving we weren't being given protections to opt out of our kids weren't being given protections to opt out of the LA locker room a few years ago. So, that's what we're looking for is protected classes.

The Supreme Court just ruled that parents can opt out of certain curriculum for religious reasons. And there's a lot of good reputable law firms like Advocates of Faith and Freedom and the Pacific Justice Institute that are providing opt out forms for parents because in California until it's settled in the Supreme Court or until President Trump and the

Department of Education can settle this, we ha we're going to have to have workarounds and that's what we're doing. So, I want to say I asked if anyone has a good idea, if anyone can help us with this, please reach out. And I had so many people reach out with help. But I had a lot of people reaching out with misinformation

that they've been given about the intent behind these policies. And I want to shout out to the one board member who offered to help, Dr. Kamroski. Thank you for working with Dr. with Mr. DeMarco and helping us come up with a more workable policy. This is still an opt out policy and this doesn't remove boys from girls locker rooms or girls

from boys locker rooms. But I think it is important that rather than come here and spit on each other that we give each other grace and try to come up with solutions until the Supreme Court can settle this for us. to stand. >> Dr. Kamroki, >> please point of order. Dr. Dr. Kamroski, you worked closely with Mr. DeMarco on

coming up with a solution for our district. Did you want to speak for three minutes or two minutes on it? >> I'd like to speak for four. >> I'd like to second that. >> God, >> whatever. or you can stop me whenever you want. I want four minutes. So, I hear something. I'm a professional philosopher. I'm going to give a thought

experiment. I am I am definitely not politically correct. So, here it goes. This is um I I highly respect Tony DeMarco as a lawyer. I think he's the best to have on this issue. Whatever solution we come up with tonight is just a band-aid, but it's the best band-aid we got until these corrupt legislators in office are removed. What we had many

months ago is Kate Sanchez and Bill of Saley trying to stop Assembly Bill 1266 in its tracks to reverse the ED code. It got shot down. Here we are stuck. But I hear, you know, and I always think about this. We we raise our right hand and we swear to defend the Constitution. How about triggering the supremacy clause?

Here's where I'm going. Here's the thought experiment. I'm going to put the lawyer on the spot and I definitely respect him. Imagine a school district similar to ours in every single scenario, but this is called Um, Goldland School District, they have the exact same scenario. What if Goldland School District stood firm and said, "No boys in the locker room. We're

going to trigger supremacy clause in the United States Constitution and generate legal pressure towards the lawfare of the state of California." Here's where I'm going. The United or the United States Constitution guarantees us our privacy, which literally comes from God. But the state constitution also does it. But the state constitution seems to contradict ED code 221.5 because if a

biological boy now turning into the social construct of I identify as whatever doesn't that itself violate privacy which is already guaranteed to us in our constitution can we can we trigger not not we excuse me goldand can that school district same in every single aspect as ours would that be feasible or not because it's something that is worth considering. We have

national attention. We didn't want it, but we're here. And the national attention might provoke lawfare to stop to where your kids are not held hostage in this binding situation, which sucks. It truly sucks. But we as board members, we're trying to do the best we can. Same with district admin. Same for the principal, God bless his soul, trying to

deal with this. But what I'm trying to say is, can this turn into a a a a lawsuit in Goldland school district similar to ours? >> Can we stand firm and say this is not happening? Can Goldland do it? >> Uh so thank you Dr. K. that um hypothetical school district could take a position that it was not going to

follow the education code with respect to access to sex segregated facilities, programs, etc. But much like has happened in other districts, the state of California uh Department of Justice Attorney General Rob Bont would likely bring some sort of action against the district that could implicate pretty large um takeover possibilities, funding possibilities. Um it would be it would be a huge risk to

that school district and the local control of that school district for its electeds. >> Thank you. There's the hypothetical of Gold Land School District, which I wish we could pursue. I'm telling you, I hear your voices in the community. I know this is a travesty. Maybe somebody up on high in the federal government can help us, but here we are. Thank you, Dr.

Anderson, for giving me the opportunity to work with Tony DeMarco to bring this forward to the community. I'd like to set up the scenario. This is like a cage match, old school wrestling. Nobody leaves the deis until we work it out right now. Forget the freaking timer. We work it out in front of them. And we do

not leave the deis until we have this policy and we go home. >> There's no more pushing it off. >> I actually I actually think >> so you're talking about the policy that's that's >> right here right now. You guys want to add to it? Let's get it all out of the way. And then Tony says yes because he's

got to have it legally defensive. >> And I think we're going to be able to I want to talk. >> I just wanted to say that we're going to take comment. So, we spoke and then we'll take turns and then we'll take amendments cuz I was going to um amend the name. >> Okay. >> Um but other than that um let's take

turns. >> Okay. So, I like the words, but I want to go back in time a little bit to TCI because that's the kind of that's the stand that we took. Okay. But when push came to shove, we we folded. I wasn't here, but we folded. Okay. So, if we're going to take a stand like you say, are we going to

fold? Okay. Because a lot of a lot of horrible things are going to happen like like Mr. Demarco said. Okay. >> Clarify for him. I think >> I I think he might be confused. I'm not sure who he thinks folded. >> But TCI curriculum. Yeah. >> No. TC when we did TCI when we were standing up to Governor Nuome.

>> That's right. >> Okay. >> We had a special board meeting and we folded when it came time for the big fine. >> That's a very generalized statement. >> Can I clarify? I think there's I think I understand the confusing. Mr. Barham, just a sec. Mr. Barham thinks that you want to that you're >> Joseph just said he understands the

legal repercussions that the state would take over our schools if we did this. and he doesn't support that. >> Okay. >> So, I just want to clarify. He said he doesn't support. >> So, here's I just want to clarify before we talk about the policy because you worked on this policy. Okay. You worked on it and you're bringing it forward.

So, I just want some clarification because I think I know where you're going here. So, yes or no? Does this proposed privacy policy prohibit transgender students from using the locker room or a mixeduse space that aligns with their gender identity? >> I'll defer to Tony DeMarco. And I think he's going to say no. That would violate you. I'm talking to you, Mr. Beectful.

Let Tony answer. >> He's bringing this forth. I want to talk to him. >> Why can't you answer that? >> Oh, >> I want you to answer that. >> Oh, I will. But you're pointing your finger at me. >> Okay. You know what? Stop deflecting and answer. >> Okay. Wait, wait, wait. Point of order. I call the question Mr. Barham. When I

call point of order, please. >> Okay, I'll ask the question. >> Nope. Stop. >> Listen, we need to start working together. >> I am. I'm trying to get clarification. >> Wait, stop. Quiet. Dr. Kamaroski asked the attorney. Let the attorney answer. Thank you. I know. Thank you for asking him. >> We're paying him big bucks and he's here

and he's awesome. Let him speak for Let him get in there. >> Okay. I You want me to ask the attorney? >> No. Dr. Kamaraski wants to ask the attorney. >> Okay. >> Just Just make a choice, Mr. Barham. Do you want to work together or do you want us to grill each other? >> I am working together.

>> You're pointing your finger trying to use a bully tactic and I see right through it. >> I'm trying to get clarification on what you're trying to accomplish. >> The best man in the room for that, Tony DeMarco. >> All right. So, >> so may maybe it'd help if I just answered a couple of legal questions without them being asked because one of

the efforts of this policy and why it's legally defensible is because the rules in the policy, the application through the administrative regulations and the administration's journaling of what goes on through use of a form. These are all of universal application. They're not applicable to any specific sex or gender or gender identification or gender non-conforming individual. There's equal

protection under these laws. They're of uniform application. The students in California have a right to privacy under both the federal and the state constitutions. So, we're rooted now in three principles of constitutional law, three sources. The California Department of Education itself has specifically and in writing articulated the right of students to privacy. So we have citations to state

guidance that say that students have a right to privacy. Students may choose different arrangements for changing for a variety of reasons, but they're all going to be rel related to these constitutional and state law policies. No. No student who identifies as one gender or the other or as gender non-conforming is going to be procluded from using the sex segregated facilities

of their choice because compliance with state law and recognize the constitutional rights of our students. >> Yeah, that's what I'm after. That's what I'm after hearing. So, one more another question, Mr. DeMarco. Can this proposed privacy pol policy physically remove transgender students from using the locker room or the mixus space that aligns with their gender identity? >> This policy does not do that. It it

complies fully with state law on the topic. >> Okay. And I have one more question. Can this proposed policy encourage trans students to use other private facilities, for example, nurses stations, bathroom stalls, when they don't want to and they prefer to be changing in the open with other students in which their gender identifies with? >> I don't know that I fully understand the

way that you stated that question, but >> can I clarify it first? >> Go ahead. He wants to know will this policy >> encourage >> encourage or make transgender kids leave again. He's just >> transgender and gender non-conforming students have the statutory right to use a se segregated facilities that conform to their identity. This policy doesn't do anything to change that.

>> Okay. Thank you. >> Mr. Schwarz did >> Yeah. I just have uh I'm glad that we're coming up with something that's workable. I would just like to change several words in the policy. I would like to remove the word segregated because it has a negative con connotation in history. The word segregated has a a negative connotation and it implies separating

people rather than uh a place where people share. So, if we could use another word other than segregated. And I also um would like it to say um rather than um sex segregated, I would rather have it say shared facilities. Those are my two comments. >> Steve, can I can I show you this right here? I I agree with you. Our board

policy, the re the revised title was student privacy accommodation in locker rooms and the AR says student privacy and sex segregated facilities. We could just delete that line off and replicate what we have in the board policy. >> That's it. There you go. I agree. >> Thank you. Hey, >> there you go. >> Okay. So, Mr. Schwarz made the motion to

amend. >> No, I have some thoughts you haven't included. >> Wait, I need to make a We're going to first amend and then >> before we all deliberate. >> No, no, we're amending. We're making amend just I promise we'll get to this is a parliamentary. So the motion was made to amend and remove some language to the policy. It was seconded by Dr.

Kamaroski. Do we want to does anyone oppose that a amendment? Okay. Then that amendment will pass unanimously. Mrs. Wearsma, you had a change or a comment. >> Yes. I'm also going to ask for about four minutes to make up for the four months that I've been trying to communicate exactly where I stood with my research and what I brought forward

to you long ago. >> Do you guys >> just because something's lawful? >> Excuse me. >> I was looking for board consensus to give you four minutes. So, they said yes. >> Okay. Len, if you could help me claim my time, reclaim it. To those of you here tonight, just because something's lawful, it certainly doesn't mean it's moral.

>> And just because you want to uphold morals, it doesn't mean you hate other people. Do not fall for the progressive mindset that if you stand up for what you believe in, you're a bigot. The truth is, God did create man and woman. And if we separated our locker rooms and bathrooms by testes and sperm and ovaries and eggs, we'd be scientifically

safeguarding our sports and spaces appropriately. So tonight, we are creating the best stop gap that we can for staff and students. But I'm telling you this, it's not done. And I'd like to see us consider pursuing the next level in developing sound moral and judicial argument for aligning with title 9 and federal guidelines to protect all students while leading the way. Here in

California, parents be courageous. Students make bold decisions. We do need a group of people on the deis and in this district to develop the grit to challenge the system that yes came from Sacramento. But I do believe we have the ability to do it because I'm banned from talking to our attorneys here on the school board. I go out of my way to

contact constitutional attorneys in my network who know how hard I'm working on your behalf. And through their conversation and research, I know this isn't the ending point tonight. We do not want to be reckless. We do not want any student to feel like they are being targeted. That's why I brought this forward in June to be sure that we could

have this privacy centered form before the school year started. I was ignored. These forms tonight um it represents a start. I'm going to pass down what I would also like to add as the possibility for discussion because I think we all have something to contribute to contribute. So, let me just say um the form should only be

completed in my opinion by a parent or legal guardian if the student is a minor. There should never be a burden for students to explain themselves in regards to the nature of their privacy request whether religious or otherwise. If there is an oral request by a student, it should be immediately documented and a parent notified to submit that form within 24 to 48 hours.

The nature of the accommodation should be very very brief because again, no student should have to bear that burden and neither should you as a parent for really your constitutional constitutional right to be protected. Obviously with these administrative regulations, we have more to talk about. The annual notification is here, but we need to create a common thread of

conversation and activities on our campuses. If this is all we're doing tonight, sex education, that would be an excellent place to reference the issue or privacy and issues with changing or any other aspect of sexuality. The physical education syllabus, talking about a uniform, send it out with the syllabus. We need to communicate consistently. So, as a parent

recommended tonight, you're not in the dark. We're going to do our best. Joining a sports team, I think this should also be talked about. I do feel for the principal that's had to navigate this. But you know what? We've had people complaining about this for three or four years. We have not done staff training. We have not offered

professional development. We have deflected until we come to a point where incompetent trustees have passed something instead of listening to veterans who begged them to balance the conversation with what we had to offer. That has always been my heart's interest is to do what's best for the kids. They deserve to be protected. Our staff deserves to be protected. And at the end

of the night, I'm going to read to you a staff member's email about what they've experienced here in TVUSD as a result of the reckless form that did indeed pass in June. I'm going to set the record straight. It was live. It's just school wasn't in. So, you didn't find out until it started. I spoke with Mr. DeMarco about this and

he said it would be the appropriate time to bring it up. Um, I think that we need to um call for um immediate action regarding some misinformation about what has happened at our district. Um, Dr. Woods, do we have any cases where I I know one case, it was a person here tonight that I shared the forms with as

and I told them these have not been approved. We're experimenting with this idea. Um, and the over and over it was like we're still trying to figure it out. Um, but other than that family member, do you know anyone that has been forced in our district? Any girls have been forced to sign this form in order to opt out of

the restroom? >> Not that I'm aware of. Cabinet, any have you had anything come across your desk? >> Okay. So because because the misinformation that and that what's being said in the public is our district is forcing girls to sign mental health forms in order to opt out of the restroom. And that's not true. Um I've had parents call me

concerned. And so I think that we need to one send a letter to all of the parents in the district and let them know this never happened. Like we did not force any students. this this form was never approved. Um it was always a discussion and a work in in pro progress and I and I noticed um Dr. Kamaroski

pointed that out. Um Dr. Karaskki I watched your interview with um who's the guy again? >> Matt Gates. >> Matt Gates and and he even pointed out like we have not implemented this. So um I think that we need to send a letter to the parents there. A lot of them have been concerned about the scrutiny. They're worried that we've put um

targets on our schools. I've heard from conservative and liberal parents that they're worried that we've put targets on all the students backs. So, I think we should send out a notice like first of all, this is misinformation. We no one's been forced to do this in our district. Um and then the next thing is point of order. Um,

I've talked about and I maybe we should just drop it and let it go away. >> No, sending a polite clarification, not a cease and desist. Sending a polite clarification because I this is my community and I want to stick up for our community and our our community has been dragged through the mud with misinformation saying that we're forcing

girls to sign this policy and we're not. And I think we could send a polite clarification to some of the news outlets and social media people letting them know that the information that they've shared is not true. Um and maybe just ask them to take it down or to reach out for um the the actual clarification. >> So So that's one thing. Excuse me. Point

of order. I'm just asking if we can clarify the truth of what's happening at our district and our district is not forcing girls to sign forms in order to well to sign a mental health form. No one has been co coerced or required to do that. This was a topic for a discussion. We were looking for protected classes that would help opt

girls out. it. I'm not I'm going to admit I already said I'll take full responsibility and it was a terrible idea, but terrible ideas are going to lead to better things. We had a Dr. Kroski and Mrs. Wearsma had a parental rights and notification policy. That's not a terrible idea, but California law made us resend that. I kind of thought

about you guys like how much time and effort you put into that parental rights and notification policy. And it's humbling and it's embarrassing, but sometimes we have to resend something that we're working on. But I think that we can make it better. Just like rescending this tonight will make it better. Rescending the parental notific. So what is the consensus? Do we want to

send a letter to the parents? >> Yeah, >> we need to give direction to the staff. I think a letter and a press release stating what we are actually doing, not the rumors. While I was sitting here, I got about 40 emails from people saying, "I don't want my daughter saying she's mentally ill." That was never part of

what we were talking about. We were trying to come up with an accommodation. And if it was something that bothered you mentally, not that you're mentally ill, >> mental health Yeah, we're rescending it. It's okay. It was a bad idea. I admit it. It was a bad idea, but it got the conversation going. >> The same thing with If I can finish. I'm

sorry. Same thing with the religious accommodation. We're not saying that you have to be religious, that you have to follow a religion. We're trying to make it a way for the students to express >> to opt out >> to express their desires and opt out. Were they bad ideas? Some people say yes. Some people thought they would

work. In any event, they're not enforced. They were never enforced. And that's what we're talking about here tonight. >> Mr. Barham, what is your thought? We just need to give direction to the district. >> I know. I wanted to >> No, go ahead. >> Then Dr. com. >> I would say while we're while we're deliberating, can can Tony look at what

Jen sent out also and see if that's doable because again I don't want to leave the deis until we get approval like, hey, this is good. We can we can pretty much defend this in court. Jen, you pretty much sent out a new handout. >> It also has overnight trips and camps. So >> I know. Yeah. And so because I want to

make a decision. Yeah, it's the one she handed us. >> So Dr. What what I'd ask is is if if it's okay. I I would like some time with it. The form's not up for adoption tonight. I think that the concepts in here can be merged in into what we already did. >> Well, I guess I prematurely was talking

about waving the second reading and voting tonight. But this is the first read, >> but you said it's not up for adoption. Yeah. >> No, >> the form's not up for adoption. Just the policy and then the AR is also here. >> So, the form can happen after the >> That's correct. This is an administrative function. So I think if

we spend some time with it, the concepts are are workable. >> I was assuming we're voting on all three right now. Okay. >> Because it was agendaized. >> Just this was not >> on the agenda. >> Well Well, right. But she wants a motion to put it on. She wants it synthesized with this form that we had agendaized.

Right, Mrs. W? >> So So my motion is what it's always been, which is to get all the information to the attorney and then be advised as a group. Yes, I feel like in looking at these things, I didn't make a lot of changes, but we shouldn't have people disclose sensitive personal details. Overnight trips and camp should

be considered. The privacy from tests and questioning is on here, which I think is so important. The parent needs to submit this form. Really, the student signature should be optional, though welcome. Um, so I think the ARs even need additional work, but if we're here to pass it and it's a breathing document that we can continue to speak into, I

think that's important and Mr. DeMarco, I appreciate you being willing to take this and look how we can how we can make it better if needed. >> So, are you saying that we can uh vote in the board policy, the AR right now and then give Tony DeMarco these two forms, he can push them together and then next meeting we could vote them in?

>> Not only the two forms, though. I mean, I'm fine with that. Yeah. But I think we also need to take into consideration what's already in the O2 document because those you weren't on the phone with him. I was >> okay. Okay. Just a second. We submitted it to him. Can I can I ask the >> Mrs. Das does he have that document?

>> We don't ask the lawyer when I was on the phone with him. >> I think we're all talking about something that's actually the same. >> The document that I think Dr. Kamaroski is referring to is the one we presented and that form was available and presented. I think what you're referring to, Mr. Barham, is also right. It's the

survey that you and I kind of spoke about when you asked what we would send to parents as an internal form, right? >> And that is something that very closely matches what's on here, but uh that has not been released or linked. It's something that is um it was it was available and in creation but not associated with this conversation

>> the only ones who have seen it. But I mean I'm just saying it's viable as well. I mean I think we should look at all three. >> So when you say that I I I hear you but unless the board has it tangibly in front of us. I I can't read your mind. I don't know what you mean.

>> No. >> She just revealed it wasn't made. >> I'm not going to decide that. I mean we're going to have the lawyer. >> Good. I'm in agreement. Give it to Tony. All right. But I wanted to see what you were talking about. >> Okay. >> Can I make a suggestion? >> I I think it's important and I think

there's some urgency. >> To get this passed tonight and make amendments at future board meetings because I know Mr. DeMarco burned the midnight oil. You were on the phone with him. There was he took kind of the the best of all worlds. We did provide the district document and so everyone's except for the one everyone's kind of brought their

information to the table. I really think it's important that we pass this tonight and then we can bring it forward bring future amendments forward >> and Dr. complicated because other than changing a word like these two did we to >> perhaps what I add right now might also help >> ours was a it's a Google form we find

that to be more accessible to parents but the information that's on the what was presented on the board agenda is almost identical to the Google form so I don't even need I don't even know if anything needs to be submitted it matches so closely with the exhibit that's been presented this evening I think that what is what Mr. Mr. Barham

is saying, >> "Okay, since the attorney did the exhibit that was presented, could we as a board come to a consensus to turn that exhibit also into a Google form >> or good? >> I got an even more magical question. Mrs. Dis, can we look at that form right now above?" >> What is it a one pager? Are you ready?

>> We might give consent right now if we can just eyeball it. >> I will tell you that the it it's it's one of those examples when things merge appropriately. the Google form is exactly the questions that are on the exhibit. >> Okay, so let's do this. >> I I really think it's important. We We've >> I mean, we've been dragged through the

mud to get to this point, but look at everyone working together. >> He's good. >> I'm good. >> You're good. >> I just looked at it. >> We're all good. >> Let Jen look at it. >> I want the attorney to look at it. >> And then Mrs. Wears, yours is very detailed. Can Can Mr. DeMarco have time

to review your AR? Mine's actually pretty simple and it's just a couple of additions. If I have your word on this deis right now, if you will be able to review it and that we can make additions and that you will listen, I'm happy to do that. And then as far as the AR, there's an additional ad that I'd like to make sure of because

for one, I think middle school students should have the right not to dress out. I think under retaliation in the administrative regulations that should be considered um along with some other aspects of where we can cover this particular form or an idea of a policy whether it's sex education, physical education and I do not want to um not

have him look at the fact of the tests and the information that students might be subjected to in a class. So, if we can do that and I have your guarantee, then I think we can make it better. >> Um, can I ask the rest of the board? >> Um, I think that it I think this is what

I was asking last week. Like, we've got to stop working in teams and start working together. We're working together. >> That's what I'm saying. Look at how well this is going. >> Would can we My suggestion would be we pass this tonight. We form a committee. Dr. Kroski and I have already been working on it. Jen, you know, Dr. Dr.

Kamroski will make sure that your forms are submitted to Tony Demarco. We've kind of had like an impromptu committee going anyways. So you give them to Dr. Kamroski. He can s submit them to Mr. Demarco. Mr. Barham can give me the Google form and we can make sure that all groups in this right now on this board are working together and being

represented by their fellow comrade on the board. Like I think that's going to be the best thing because we're just going to have to clean up a few loose ends. >> I agree. But we don't need a committee. We can give you direction and then funnel it through Tony DeMarco and we see it next meeting. Outside of that, we

have a board policy in AR that we can have tangibly right now tonight. Correct. >> Okay. Let's do that. >> We don't need a committee. >> Okay. So, I'm going to ask the board because it's it's not just me. The three of you have more power than I do. Um, will Miss Wema wants to put her item on

the next agenda? Someone just Mrs. Wearsma just like ask for >> You have a whole bunch of items. So, like whatever item you want. I don't understand what you want on the >> Why are we revisiting this? Let's just continue with closing this up. >> Okay. So, do you want something on the next agenda? >> That's not what we were just discussing.

>> And I think what she's trying to ask you is the edits that you want. Do you want that on the next agenda? But before then, filter through Tony. So what I thought I heard is that if we had any edits or recommendations, yes, that that would go through Tony. If it needs to come back, yes, I would say on the next

agenda would be appropriate. >> Do I have board consensus? There's three board members that say that that will be on the next agenda. So it will be on the next agenda because we got a consensus. Okay. >> So do we need any more discussion or do do would someone like to make the motion really quick about this?

>> Oh my goodness. Oh yeah. >> Yes. And every time I'm gonna get you a little flag to hold up. Sorry. >> She needs a gabble. >> Yeah. >> All right. Um, thank you. I mentioned this at our last meeting, but as the student representative here, I tread very carefully. My words reflect my own views, but I do my absolute best to make

sure I'm still representing at least a large portion of the student body. I've been a student in the district for the past 12 years. So, I hope you all listen to what I have to say in the same way that you have listened to the other students who have bravely spoken tonight. This amendment was a change that I along with many other community

members recommended be made to the original religious and mental health accommodation during our last board meeting. And I appreciate that this idea is being considered. This type of accommodation offers the best of both worlds. If a student has concerns about being in a shared facility for any reason, they have the right to their own privacy, which is great. This amendment

addresses the concerns of the public on both sides of the argument. I just want to remind this room, including members of this board, that we are here to better the lives and the education of the students, not to push any political agenda. This item has been overly politicized and escalated during our last meeting and this one. We've gone on

and on arguing details about gender and biological sex, but this policy is about privacy. I thank Mr. Schwarz for bringing up the change of the language being used because that has incited unnecessary division. We're on the same side. We're all on the side of the students. And if you're not, you're in the wrong place. There's been a lot of

disrespect in this room, both within the audience and within the adults sitting beside me. Years ago, I've sat in the audience. I've given public comments in front of the board when I was 14. Now, I've been elected to sit here behind the deis. And still, disrespect gets us nowhere. When the community continues to point f point fingers at one another, we

lose sight of the reason we're here. I hope we're able to come together and have productive discussions from this point forward. >> Dr. Anderson, could I make the motion? >> What are you gonna What? >> Oh, um I >> think it'll be good. >> Um I'm so sorry. One last thing. >> Yeah. So, we agreed on a change of name

of the policy, right? Okay, that was good. >> To the AR, >> the board policy has the correct name. We're changing We're replicating that to the AR title. We're swapping out titles. >> I think the posted one has the same. >> Oh, it does. that was the same. a public a member of the public con contacted me and I told

them that we would change it to shared facilities. So you guys are all on the same page. >> Okay. And then would it would it be I think this is a good idea if if Emil and Jen both email you separately and link Gary and Tony. That way there's transparency with communication. The lawyer's on board and there's no loss of

information. >> Yeah. They have to do it separately with Tony as a CC. Okay. Do you >> And if we didn't make a motion, I'm motioning that. >> Okay. I'm gonna pass the motion to you if you want to read it. I I kind of scribbled on it. >> No, he's gonna remake the mo because we made amendments. He's going to make the

motion with amendments. >> Just go ahead and read it out. >> Did amendments. >> No, she's >> No, someone read it out. Any three of you. >> Are we read? >> Yeah. Are we are we rescending first or are we >> It's all one motion. >> Yeah, just if he reads it exactly like that, we're good. >> Yeah, he we we

>> he's going to remake the motion with and just add the words with amendments. >> That's direction. >> Excuse me. There's a bunch of scribbles on that paragraph. >> You want me to read Oh, read through the scribbles. >> Oh, okay. Just just Sorry. And what I made clear was it says student privacy accommodation in locker rooms. Is that what you have for the

board policy, Tony? >> The title. >> The board policy reads student privacy and sex segregated facilities. The AR reads student privacy in sex segregated facilities. So those were the two that were posted with the agenda >> and you guys just said to change them to shared facilities. >> There's references throughout the the documents to sex segregated facilities.

So I think >> they'll be shared facilities throughout the Okay. >> Thank you. >> Okay. I move to resend the mental health and the religious accommodation language and board policy 5145.3. Resend the accompanying exhibits and adopt new board policy and administrative regulation 5145.35 privacy accommodation student privacy and shared facilities and related forms. >> Second. >> Okay. Len

Schwarz. >> Yes. >> Where's >> Kamroski? >> Barham? >> Anderson? >> Yes. Student vote? >> Yes. >> Okay. The motion passes unanimously. >> Yeah. Thank you. >> A clarifying question now. Um, so the forms, Mr. DeMarco, >> you're going to take care of that where they go where they you guys with me? >> Dr. Woods. Yeah. No, I'm talking about

where where somebody is going to be able to access like the privacy because I want it to go. This is my personal preference. I want it to be a Google form. >> Okay, >> that's what I'm looking for. >> So, we'll bring that back for discussion. Right now, we have the form that was adopted and then we're going to

talk about adding it as a Google form, but he's going to review that and we'll bring it back. >> Okay. >> With Mrs. Wearsma's. >> Okay. So, we're on to the >> Sorry, can I mention one more thing quickly? Yeah. >> Just let the parents know out there in the community, we uh added a section >> and it was because of Deas' phone call

with me and Dr. Woods last week. Complaint form. If you are not satisfied with the process of how this works to get privacy for your child in any circumstance and you have a problem, we have a downloadable form you can you can lodge or trigger the mechanism for complaint. Okay? and then just follow up with the appropriate staff or a board

member and we'll make sure this is streamlined for you. Thanks for your patience. I know this is long. >> Okay. >> Yeah. >> I have one more thing. >> I think out of fairness. >> I No, because I just I want to just give some direction. It's something different. It's >> Is it regarding this policy? >> It's It's about PE in the locker room.

>> Keep giving direction. >> Yeah, it's I want to give some direction to the superintendent on maybe considering some other options here. We've passed the policy. >> We just passed the policy. What do you think? I think we need to bring it back next week because we just passed the policy. We're on to the next one. >> Next meeting.

>> Next meeting. I'm I'm talking to the attorney. Once it's passed, we need to >> No, it has nothing to do with this policy. We're done. >> It's not on the agenda. So, we can't >> I can't give any direction to the superintendent about something else. >> Nope. Not if it's You need to email him if it's not on the agenda. I already

try. So, just trust me. It's parliamentary procedure. We don't want a brown ad complaint. >> Okay. it. Honestly, we don't want another. >> No, that's cool. I'm good. >> So, um the second the next one is the second reading of the new or amended. >> Oh, I'm on number eight. I need to turn back my page. Okay. Memorandum of

understanding. Okay. I'm going to try this one more time. Before we get going, I want to just Oh, I can't. So, do we have public comment on this health thing? We have Mr. Barham. >> What? I'm sorry. >> We have nine public comments. You wanted to reconsider. >> So before we even go to public comments, we need to see if the board is going to

reconsider your vote on this. Okay. >> So, can you make the motion to reconsider your vote? This was already voted no >> for the um behavioral health. So, can you make a motion to reconsider your vote? I move that uh we uh reconsider our vote or I'm going to reconsider my vote on the Riverside uh program on substance

abuse. Do I have a second? >> Second. >> Okay. Uh does anyone oppose? >> Point of clarification. Does any of this have to do with hearing the nine comments because we need to hear them. >> No, this has to do with parliamentary procedure. So, can you just let us go through that? Mr. Barham made the motion to reconsider his vote. It was seconded.

And then at this point, we need to >> vote on >> Yeah, I >> we need to vote on reconsidering bringing back the mental health that we already voted no on. So, is there any discussion? >> What? >> On theou. This is theou. So, go ahead and call. >> One second. One second. >> Are we going to reconsider this? We need

to We There was a motion. >> I say we take it to vote. >> Okay. The The vote is on reconsidering, >> but where does the vote lead based on does nothing jeopardize them speaking tonight? >> No, I think no matter what to putting it back on the agenda. So, we are going to reconsider this. Do I have anyone that

opposes >> the reconsideration of this vote? >> Wait. Yeah, I I oppose. That's why I want to go to a vote and then we can hear the comments on it. That's what Jen's trying to ask. >> Correct. >> Why would you hear the comments if we're >> Because they at the beginning of the meeting I said >> I'll tell you why. Cuz the attorney just

told me yes. That's why. >> So let's do it. I Okay. You want to reconsider? I vote no on reconsidering. Raise your hand if you want to reconsider. Two. Okay. We're not going to reconsider it. >> Yeah. My votes no. >> Okay. We're not bringing it back. because people want to talk about it. You we have nine speakers. This just the

speakers please know that you want to do one minute because it's getting late. One minute. You didn't look at Mrs. Wearsma. Well, you want to cast your vote. >> She didn't raise I did look and her hand wasn't up, >> right? >> I'm with Dr. Kamaroski. >> Okay, we got 32. It fails. >> It fails, but we are going to listen to

public comment. Just bear with the procedure. Okay, we're going to hear the public comment. We have nine public comments to the public. This is not going to be reconsidered by the board and this did not pass, but we are willing to listen to your public comment on it. So, the first person first up is Allison followed by Cali

Mom. Kaylee, just make sure your mic works before you guys go, you know. >> Hello. >> Okay. >> Hi again. My name is Brooklyn Marba. >> I'm Kylie Wool and I'm Brooklyn Hendris. >> And we all go to James Oday Middle School. >> We just need to see you who did. I would like to say that what changes

are we trying to make for us to go back to school tomorrow and there's going to be no changes made where we still have less time in PE. We're getting going in ways making us late to all of our other classes. Point of order. So here's the thing there. We actually have a time for this comment and it's in comments right

now. We're talking about what's called anou. >> I appreciate that. But you guys, what I've been hearing since sitting here is that we are making no accommodations for us starting tomorrow and for >> Okay. So, so point of order, it's just the way we do the meeting and we are going to hear from you. It's just the

the meeting is organized in a way that you you speak on each agenda item. So, right now we're on a mental, it's called um Riverside University Health System Behavioral and Health. So, we will call you back up. I promise during general public comment >> these students need to get up for >> Mrs. Wema we're doing >> we need to prioritize them and the

>> point of order Mrs. Where's Ma? The first person to speak on agenda item six is >> it's Allison followed by Kelly followed by >> it's shameful. >> Can we move it to public? >> Okay. Allison wants to move to general public comment. Okay. >> The next person >> Kelly. Is there any way we can let the

students speak and let them go home? >> Let them speak. >> The problem is >> that's another bad decision. >> Actually, no. I just talked to the attorney and I'm going to go with what the attorney said. We can't give exceptions to like one member of the public and not other members of the public. And we're going to be consistent

with the way we've run our meeting. If we do that, we're going to have another Brown Act violation. Then have the public general comment go now. >> Okay. So next, >> who was the first person? >> Now we have Callie mom followed by Lindsay. >> Callie. >> Mom. >> We do have We do have time. We just got

to get this ridiculous. >> Lindsay followed by Savannah. Well, I waited a very long time. Uh, so thanks for getting us here. I've heard I've heard all five of you say, "Let's do what's best for the kids." I'm here to speak that the memorandum be adopted. I was surprised that it was shut down at the last board meeting and

I was actually happy to see it back. I read this memorandum from beginning to end and I honestly don't know how any one of you would deny assistance for students with substance abuse, alcohol, tobacco, and elicit drugs. Let me say this is a contract with the Riverside University Health Services Behavioral Health. This costs us no money, literally nothing. Again, this is a

zerocost collaboration uh for the district um to aid the assistance to students who are ne excuse me who are negatively impact Oh, sorry. >> When did we say it was a minute? >> Uh the >> I didn't hear anybody say that it was a minute. So, I had no direction. >> So, okay. I'm sorry. >> Excuse me. It's not.

>> Just a sec. When I looked over and Mr. Schwarz, we said it's getting late. We're going to do one minute. And I thought I had board consensus for one. >> I heard no board consensus. >> Okay, let's >> I'm almost done. Let's pause your >> You're clearly not voting. >> I want to clarify this with the board.

>> How many How many speakers on this item? >> Nine. >> Two minutes a piece. >> There's nine. >> I already said three a piece about fast. How about two? >> Two minutes on this topic. Okay, we're going to add one more minute. >> Do I have So two minutes. Two minutes. We have board consensus for two minutes.

>> And for public comments? >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> Okay. Hold on. I lost my place. So, >> okay, just we'll pause. >> Okay, one second. Um, I've heard tonight that we want proper governance and procedures. I agree. I've heard from you, Mr. Kroski, that we should slow down and take our time. I agree. It states specifically that this was no

cost. And I I believe the one thing that was in this was that RHUS would not do anything without the consent of the parent or the legal guardian and that was the spec the specity between the policy and there's no reason to not approve this memorandum. Students need help. Parents need help and this was a great resource

to help struggling students in their academic and home life outcomes when there are um gosh point of order. Any anybody that says that substance abuse and control drugs don't affect student outcomes. It's outrageous. This was a free service. I have no idea how we aren't putting this into place. There was no financial burden on the district. And at the end of the day, this should

have been approved. Thank you. [Applause] >> Next up. Next up is Savannah followed by Oscar. Two minutes. Okay, cool. Um, as a mom in this district, um, I want to speak very clearly. Thisou is not right for our kids or our families. Um, schools are for learning and they are not healthcare clinics. Bringing behavioral health systems into classrooms is a socialistic

push that shifts responsibility away from the parents and hands it to the system. That takes resources and authority away from families where they belong. >> Will you pause your time? I'm going to ask everyone to please be quiet and respect the speaker. Brian, will you help me out? This side over here and in the back. I just want

people to be quiet so that she her free speech is respected. Okay, we're going to start your time. I'm sorry to >> Okay. >> Um, we are an educational district, not a healthcare center. Families who need help already have access to community-based resources, and we do not need government programs embedded in our schools, eroding parental authority. Mr.

Barham, you brought back this exactou when it was voted down last board meeting. In fact, you yourself voted no at the last board evening. So, I'm confused why you're bringing it back now. Parents already made it clear we don't want this. So, what has changed other than trying to push it through against famil family's wishes? And let's

not forget this. This goes against our own district mission, vision, and board values. TVUSD's mission is to elevate experiences, opportunities, and each other. Our vision is to create high levels of learning in a welcoming collaborative environment for our future leaders. Our board values emphasize education, trust, and family partnerships. Turning schools into healthc care sites undermines all of

that. This is not about support. It's about control for the sake um it's about control for the sake of our children and our community. >> Very good. >> Thank you, >> Oscar. And then um Mr. >> Langworthy. >> And then Danny, you're after Mr. Langworthy. >> So, real quick, I I agreed with not approving this the last time. I I think

it takes local control away. I think you want uh local control over anything that has to do with behavior and and drugs and those kind of things because that's what the board does. You guys provide oversight. Um letting Riverside County come in and and provide these things that I don't think is a good idea. So that's it. Thank you.

>> Thank you. And then Mr. Molina >> and then up you're next. two minutes. I am very familiar with UHS and their behavioral health agenda. This is the same organization that tried to exploit our city with their four-story mental health facility at the Tmacula Valley Hospital. They held a public Q&A for the community a few months back and it was a

complete joke. They were trying to paint our community as needing this facility for our families as an entire story will be reserved to serve children. However, it will be servicing all of Riverside County. They were telling the community halftruths, laughing and dismissing our concerns, and then at the end let us submit questions on flashcards that were reviewed and picked through for

questions only they wanted to answer. There was great community outrage over UHS's attempt to exploit our city and dismiss our concerns. My platform did two different podcast uh episodes covering this poor conduct of the concerns and the organization's leadership, including a call to action to community members to address our concerns with city council, which actually had decent results. How many

times are we going to vote no on this policy for it to end up on the agenda again? Mr. Barham, what has changed from the last meeting where you already voted no? Are they planning on cycling through every board member for the next decade to butter up an influence until it gets voted in? At what point does the

organization reach its limit on its attempt to force its will on our school district? The agenda item has nothing to do with educational outcomes and performances. This is another way for UHS to try to leech off our community and it is now at the expense of our children directly. Bring forward an organization that wants to provide free

athletic busing or free training that has an impact on positive educational outcomes directly. Leave the health care decisions to the medical doctors and the parents. Please stay in your lane. >> If this is about behavior, health and providing >> to >> Can I get another 10 seconds, doctor? Is that okay? >> Well, my my time's almost up and I lost

my spot. >> Just keep going. We'll give you extra 30 seconds. I mean, you know, that's extremely unprofessional. It came from a board member. I thought it came from somebody behind me, but it was a board member. >> Account as part of your time. So, let's give you an extra. If >> this is about behavior, health, and

providing for families, then give them an opportunity to communicate with us parents directly and let us decide if we are interested. Let them provide their services from their facilities for free at our discretion. If that doesn't interest them, then that means their attempt to infiltrate our schools really holds exterior motives. Email, you have already tried to force our daughters

into a mental health form. they shouldn't have had to sign and now you are overstepping your position again. I urge you all to vote no. The people are looking to exploit our children for their financial gain. Are you here to represent a for-profit company or are you here to represent our community? >> Thank you. Then up [Applause]

>> and then the last one will be Patty. Now, I'm really glad that nobody over here has ever had to struggle or see a family member struggle with substance addiction. And all of us come from a place of privilege where we can access services or our family members. U I somebody's talking in the back. Could you >> Okay, pause her time.

Hold on. Yeah, it's that group that keeps talking. Okay. I'm a terrorist. >> Oh, you ready to work? >> I'm sorry. I didn't know that was my first time talking out loud. Okay. Um, can I just ask everyone to please respect the speaker whether or not you agree with them? Let's just give them their free speech and let them

speak under uninterrupted. >> So, >> so are you are you ready? Yeah. >> Okay. >> And u I'm going to restart anyways. you don't have to add the time back in. So, I'm uh really uh glad for all you people that you're very fortunate where you can if your child ever was like, you know, everybody keeps worrying about the meth

epidemic, fentinel, this and that. A child, a girl did die in our community because of uh drugs. Not that she was a drug addict or anything, but just because of like bad drugs. So there are drugs in the community and some people who might get addicted to these drugs might not have the same amount of resources available to uh a lot of

privileged people. There are foster kids do who might not have the same resources available and this is misinformation again that the somebody's coming into the schools to do any treatment. This was an option for the parents who do not have the resources to seek help for substance abuse on their own to be able to utilize the Riverside uh healthcare

system, the Riverside University's healthcare system. So, I just want to clarify that this was not going to cost our school district any money. This was actually we were going to provide resources to some of the um uh most struggling families who uh would not who did not have the resources and at the same time their child was struggling

with addiction. But all of you have voted no for these people. So they might succumb to their addiction because they do not have the resources to seek help for that. Uh that was a very that that was a bad idea. But when we are coming from a position of privilege, maybe we don't have empathy for people who do not

have the same privileges as we do. Thank you. >> Thank you. And then last speaker, mental health can be very broad. A lot of school districts have pushed in a lot of different things under mental health. It's actually a Trojan horse for many things. One thing, one day it could be drugs, another thing it could be gender

affirming care. I want to give you a little hint on, let me tell you a portion of a mother's story. So, a mother lost her child to the LGBTQ community because her daughter was confused and encouraged to change her gender through school, through mental programs. It's not a lie. Abigail is the mother's name and her daughter's name was Jayen.

Jayen figured out one day that she would never be the boy that she was promised that she could be. So, she kneled in front of a train, an oncoming train, and she committed suicide after trying to commit suicide before. That is what mental health can open the door to. So, I'm asking this board to please be very

careful what Trojan horse you're going to allow through that mental health because doctors, they can tell you that they're going to help a child get off of again narcotics, but how do you know that at the same time when they're not evaluating them psychologically, they're going to say that they need care in other areas and that'll be a way to start giving them

treatment for something else. So, please do what your constituents have voted you in to do and read and vet every single entity that wants to come through that Trojan horse to make sure that you take care of every child in your district to make sure that no one is coerced into having any kind of mental health treatment or being put on

psychiatric drugs because that is allowed. Thank you. Thank you. [Applause] >> This one I was going to remove from the agenda because I thought that Dr. Wood's position would be open for another board member, but then I realized they gave your spot to Kimberly. So, um, >> you know what? >> Yeah. >> I can give up my spot.

>> You want to give up your spot? >> And here's the debate. We We have said that we're going to So, let me make a motion and second before we start debate if we're going to consider this. Um, I move to reconsider the vote on board member attendance at the 2025 CSBA annual education conference in Sacramento. Do I have a second?

>> Second. >> Okay. I thought Dr. Wood's spot was open. We have agreed to limit um unnecessary travel. What do we call it? >> Only we're saying in our in our district, we've said only essential travel and our board has chosen to break up which board members travel. Two board members went to DC and then the rest

were going to go to Sacramento. So, I thought there was a spot open for um Dr. Woods to give up and I was going to have us look at that. We're limiting we're limiting this to two board members to save the school money. We just I think it it shows that one we're being fair to everyone because then each board member

gets to go to either Washington DC or to Sacramento. Um but also it it makes a statement to the rest of our staff that we're also going to limit our travel. So Mill said that he would give up his spot which opens a spot for another board member. Do you guys want to vote on who that board member is or does one of the

other board members want to >> I would like to comment. The genesis of why this is here is because I shared this idea with another district employee. I'll keep the name confidential and I said, you know, I might bring this up during my board comments that since Dr. VeZ will be the new superintendent in December. If Dr. Woods didn't care,

wouldn't it be nice if Dr. Fez could have a full board with her at CSBA. That was my idea and I was going to float this to the public. It's a collaborative effort. We value professional development. >> Comments that we missed. She didn't realize they were on the table. Let's start over and take or we can deliberate

and then take public comments before we take action. >> Did you hear what I said about the original idea? the genesis of it. >> Yeah. And I'm I >> It was a collaborative effort for the new superintendent. >> Are do you agree or do you want >> So it was my I it was actually the timer was on me, but I'm

>> It was a mistake that we missed public comment. Let's just pause. Okay. So, we forgot to do public comment, but as long as we take public comment before we take action, we're okay. So I want the members of the public to know that we're not going to take action until you get a chance to speak. Okay. So we had

two members of um I w Dr. Kroski I was going to I have three minutes to introduce the topic and then we can debate it two and two. So I'm okay though you can keep my timer going. Um, doc, you did mention it to Len and I felt like if we're going to do this when Len showed me the agenda, if we're going

to do this, time is of the essence to get flights and change names. So, I put this item on action because I thought it was urgent to the district to get the flights um if we're going to reconsider who we send to CSBA. So, that's all I was going to say. Now, Dr. Kamaraski, I'm going to give you all your time back

so you can start over. Okay. >> This wasn't about me. It was about the board collaborative efforts to work together professional development with the new superintendent. I am not in agreement with well I I'll not go you can go. No no no my idea that I would have floated on my own board comments would have been the whole board

go superintendent. We value professional development. It's a moving towards collaborative role. It's a maiden voyage for the new superintendent and it's a CSBA event. We all learn. That's my position. I'm not going to vote for me to go unless the whole board goes. Okay, >> that was my idea. >> Okay. And I just wanted to put it on

there so we could talk about it in time. Okay. So, I hear your idea. Um, does anybody else have comment on this? >> I would just like to say I totally concur with Dr. Kamaroski. That's the presidential move indeed to want to be collaborative and to have our superintendent travel with her full team. We have a $450 or $60 million budget a

year. Getting this board's act together on one page by December would be a great goal for us to aim for. I totally advocate for what his original proposal was, which is for the entire board to go for professional development and training. >> Okay. Um, so any other does anybody I think we should just stick with the one. Do you have

>> Go ahead. >> I just think we should just if one person wants to go. >> Why don't we if there's no more comment, we can take public comment now. >> Sure. >> Okay. >> Perhaps you might ask Dr. Veles if she has a comment after we hear public comment. >> Do you have a comment? CSBA is always at the board's

discretion. So, I will I will leave that decision up to the board. I will say that I do think there is um having the experience of of working with all of you in a collaborative nature. There is value to that. But I will also very much say we have limited travel and conference. And so I understand the the

other stance which is really being fiscally minded knowing that we kind of are going into a little bit of a budget crisis. So, I'm going to actually leave this one to the board. >> So, let's take public comment. Who's the first one? >> We have two. First up is Christine Masa, followed by Upne. >> How many? Two minutes. Okay.

>> Did I get three people to say two minutes? Okay. Hello. Board actual parent. Just as a reminder, um it's my opinion that the board should not approve sending any board members to any other conferences unless and until trustees and Kamaroski provide a full readout of what they learned at Coast to Coast, sending them all the way to Washington DC

with justification that what they participated in could only have been handled there. We still haven't heard any report out from either of them. From what they shared on socials, they only met with people who all reside within an hour of Tmacula and had to go all the way to Washington DC to do it. I'm sure that money could be much better spent

elsewhere. So, let's think about where that money could be spent rather than sending board members on boondoggles because for all we know that's all they did. Thank you. >> u good evening. I've already gone on about the coast to coast conference. My agenda item has not been put on and we haven't received any report. I don't think we should waste

any more money for people to travel and go take pictures on social to put put them on social media. That's all we've gotten out of that conference. And thank you for trying to give it up to the staff since we are on a limited budget. We have discussed this frequently that the least painful option for the school

board to consider is 3 million a year to be able to sustain their thing through 2029 depending on and we are not sure financially things are I don't know if you follow the stock market and how how volatile it is right now. So things can change a lot for the school district. We should be responsible. Set the good

example on how to use the resources fisc responsibly just traveling. And the other problem is there have there have been like multiple reports of board members arguing with the presenters and not in a respectful way when they've uh our school at the last meeting we've discussed what can we do to improve the reputation of our district. We do

excellent things in this district. All of them are overshadowed by the constant drama that is being spread around everywhere. So I don't think we should give more air to this drama or more avenues for people to travel out to different places to spread this drama. I think our school district works really hard. All of those programs, all of the

achievements that the district is having are all being overshadowed by this drama and we shouldn't like give any more air to it. So I think like if you want to give it up, give it to a staff member who can go and who can actually utilize these in the classrooms. That would be the most effective use of these

resources. And even if you don't go the next year, it is in San Diego. And another thing that was offered was like uh you've worked with Dr. Velas for three years now like having collaboration in that like special place is not going to be there. You've been around she was assist interim superintendent for a while. You've attended a conference already with her.

So that's not a reason to just send everybody on a vacation or something like go because we're going to collaborate. Collaborate here. Do the work. Thank you. >> Okay. Thank you. [Applause] >> Mill, do you want to You are willing to give up your seat. Should we just not Should we just cancel it and have staff go?

>> I think that's a good idea. I mean, >> I would rather give it to the teachers. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> And and Dr. Vez or Dr. Vez and her team and let them go. >> And Len because I feel like she gets a lot out policy. >> You don't want to go? >> I'm happy not going.

>> You're happy not going. >> So you So Kimberly, we could give it to the staff. >> Let's give it to the staff and let Kimberly decide who goes. >> Okay. Because we have those positions. You can change the name of the person. So I'll motion that um the board. So, Emil, you you want to make the motion

that we give up our positions to the staff? Okay. So, the motion is made that the board members will give up their position so the staff can attend the CSBA. Do I have a second? >> Second. >> Okay. Um, >> so yeah, just to clarify, no board members will go. I'll give up my position to a staff member and Mr. Bar

will give up his position to a staff member as well. Okay, >> let's vote. >> Let's vote. Schwarz. >> Yes. >> Whereersma? >> No. It's called the California School Board Association for a reason. I want us all to be >> point of order. Let's just vote. Okay. So, >> Kamaroski, >> no. >> Barham, >> yes. >> Anderson,

>> Student board, >> Okay. So, the motion passes and um we're going to send our staff. >> I love that. >> I love it, too. Okay. The next thing is the second reading of new or amended board bylaws 9123.2 and 9241. Um, do we have public comment? >> Okay. >> Okay. And we'll do the number. We're almost there.

>> Lenny, can you pull these up for me? Okay. So, this this is the position that I created for a vice clerk so that if um the president is gone, we still have an acting president and an acting clerk. I know Mrs. Wearsma was acting president for a long time and she didn't have an acting clerk to support her. Um

and so that's why this was created. I also thought it would tie in with the board advisory committee liaison like we could tie those together. And so that we put this on the last agenda if anyone wants to read over it again. I think ideally we again this comes back to breaking up the teams and working collaboratively

with each other. Um I think Mr. Schwarz deserves a position. He's been on the board for a long time. Ideally, I would like to see I want I I'm okay like when we do the reorganization meeting letting um someone else step in for a while. And I'll say this in public, I would like to see Mr. Schwarz and Dr.

Kamaroski work together next year as a leadership team, unless Mr. Mham's still interested, but I really this put this puts three positions together and I want to see the three of you start working together collaboratively more because I've seen a lot of wins. Mr. Barham, when you did the accountability committee with Dr. Pomroski. I thought that was a huge um

that was big great progress and I thought the two of you worked well collaboratively together. So, um I don't know where your positions are, but that was the goal of this. Let's make more positions. It'll help break up this idea of like two against two or three against two. Um and that's that's it. So, >> bring up the other one.

>> Yeah. The next one is um of the site visits. It's the photography language. >> Y >> there's been a lot of complaints and people don't want pictures of the staff don't want pictures. Parents especially don't want pictures of their kids during scheduled site visits. Those should be for the we have official scheduled site visits. That's when the board members go

and tour the schools. Um, so because of the feedback that staff and parents don't want that to be a campaign opportunity, I added the photography that we were not going to film and take pictures while we're doing those. We talked about it last meeting. That doesn't mean if you go to a football game, you can't take pictures, but when

we're doing official site visits, I think we should be more professional, not be filming and taking pictures. Um, so that's it. We talked about this last time. Is there any more comment on it? Okay. Um, I want to move to approve the board new board bylaws and also um I wanted to make a motion to appoint the leazison

since it's on the agenda. Can we do that right now? >> So, will you click that first second reading of the vice >> clerk? Where does it say on the agenda? That's to appoint people. >> We didn't. So, do I need to do that the next one? >> Okay. So, we'll do He said Dr. Um, Mr. DeMarco said that we'll do the

appointments next next time. Um, >> okay. So, um, do I made the I I move to approve and I do I have a second >> you seconded. Any more comment, Len? >> Oh, yeah. Dr. Karaski, >> my conservative kicks in here and just says this is more bureaucracy on the board. I'm fine with the two positions we have. Um, that's just my

>> I I actually think it gives you >> Okay. I think it gives you a position a leadership position um in December or Mrs. Wearsman like >> in December any of us can vote for the two president and clerk in it. >> But we do have it's not it's not like it's not obvious that there's like a 32

split and I was just trying to break that up. So, okay. Um, any other comment? Okay. Lenny >> Schwarz, >> I don't know. >> Uh, just to have the vice clerk and no pictures. >> Vice clerk. >> Oh, yes. >> Yes. >> Wearsma, >> I'm a no. >> Kamoski, >> no. >> Barham, >> yes. >> Anderson, >> Student vote,

>> Thank you. >> Okay, so the motion passes um 3 to two. And the last one is item nine. >> Yes. AB45. We have >> AB4495. >> 495. Sorry. We have four comments. >> Um, we have four comments on AB495. So, who's the first person? >> Okay. First up is Masa, followed by Mary Davis. >> Am I doing two minutes?

>> Uh, two. I need one more board member to agree to two minutes. Okay, two minutes. Just in case you didn't know, I was an actual parent. I will point out my Puma earrings custom made on Amazon. So, um, so first I'd like to object to this item being moved up from future board agenda to this current agenda as I don't

believe it's been properly noticed via the Brown Act. Uh, this item was no one knew that this item was going to be deliberated tonight until we got here. So, I don't think it's been properly noticed and there's no exigent or critical circumstances requiring a discussion or a vote on this tonight. So passing this resolution doesn't mean anything. Don't need to discuss it

tonight. Nobody was properly noticed. However, if you're going to discuss AB495, I implore you to get some of the facts right. Caregiver affidavit are not new. What AB495 does is expand who may sign an affidavit to an adult with an established relationship who lives with the minor. There's no activist adult gaining control without parental input. Additionally, AB AB495

states the parents wishes supersede the unless the parents wishes jeopardize the child's welfare. AB495 doesn't grant anyone custody. It only authorizes school enrollment and school related medical care. Um, emergency contact cards already exist. They already suffice and AB495 actually reinforces the updating of emergency contact cards. Schools don't have a secret mechanism to override parents. So, please stop mis

spreading misinformation about AB495. A simple Google search and a read of the bill would have prevented this being put on the agenda. Thank you. Hi, good evening. Mary Davis and I am in uh opposition of AB495 and for any type of resolution that would be in opposition of it. Um, real quickly before I dig in, I do want to point out

that when I was told by your staff that I could not hold up my pocket constitution as a form of 1A protected speech, it is even a little bit smaller than the size of my cell phone. So, if you are really going to do that, then you better be telling everybody that they cannot hold up their cell phone and

film. So, my rights were infringed and please consider a formal complaint on that. Um, going back to AB495, what she did not say was that it's extending the mentoring relationship. So, it's not just a caregiver or guardian. It's basically any kind of person that can claim a relationship. I also want to point out that um for the

Riverside County Library, there is actually a a form where it says to get a card, you have to show show a driver's license, a photo ID or two forms of ID. And yet there is no such requirement. You just scouts honor which is honor um say that you're that person and you check a box that yes, I've talked to

Jane Doe and she you know lets me have the kid. So we need to be accurate about what information we are spreading around. Um again ex the extended mentoring relationship is the problem on that. Um as well as taking advantage of u great immigrants who are already involved u subject to human trafficking. So it makes them even more vulnerable.

Lastly, real quickly, I did make a document about defending Title 9 as well as AB495. So, I'll give you each a little my flyer and I hope you check that out because we need factual information. Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Real just real quick, I had 13 seconds. I wanted to ask, did you all get the

copy of the book that I gave you last time because I handed it to the staff member. It was everything the state of California knows about raising your child. Did you guys get my book? >> I don't remember getting a book. >> It was It was a gag book that was completely blank right there. It was more like a journal that the state knows

nothing. But I gave five copies and they >> I actually got a copy. >> You did? Okay. I hope you laughed. Okay. I did. Remember the state? They're not your kids. Thank you. >> Okay. Thank you. >> Ma'am, you can't do that. >> No, you can't give us anything. >> Just give it to Brian for security. >> It's okay. I We will take those.

>> I will give it to the proper procedure. But you were very assumptive. >> It's okay. >> Okay. M Mr. Schwarz, it's okay. Brian, should will you give those to Brian and he'll pass those out to us? Thank you. >> Thank you, Brian. >> I don't I think it's just trying to help. We weren't assuming you were going

to do that. We just wanted to let you know that Brian he can hand them to us. That's all. >> Like just like I did last time. >> I was going to say she brings us gifts every time. So, I think she knows. It's okay. >> Thank you. The quote unquote Family Preparedness Plan Act of 2025 sounds harmless, but it

dangerously weakens safeguards and makes it easier for children to be taken without proper checks. as you know, next it goes to the Senate and then if it passes there, which it probably will, then it goes on to the governor. AB4 495 allows anyone to take possession of a child without ID, without a background check, without parent permission, or even court proceedings.

Without court proceedings, this is a gift to criminals. Laws like AB495 put kids at risk being kidnapped, trafficking, or disappearing. I would urge this board to fight AB495 because a teacher, a coach, a neighbor, anyone who knows information about that child, their name, their age, where they live, can go down to your school and pick that child up. And like the last

speaker said, you you you you it's easier to to take out a library book than it is to pick out a child or pick up a child. Library books, you have to show ID, proof of where you live, address, get your child. None of that's necessary. Fight AB495 because your child may get kidnapped. Thank you. [Applause] The last public comment form does not

have a name. Is there someone that signed up for this that I didn't call? >> Oh, it does. It has something. Okay. >> Okay. Before we deliberate, um, Mr. DeMarco double checked with Mr. Dedric and if we take action on this tonight, it will be a Brown Act violation. >> So, so the way I would state it is my

concern is that it did list it as a future item. So, if a member of the public read that they may contemplate that they don't have to speak to it tonight. So, that that's just my concern. I'd be more comfortable deferring it to to a future item. >> Yeah. My question too is Mrs. Worma remind me we both had our names on this

and we agendaized it for this meeting not for future and you Dr. Anderson put it into the future subjecting us to this tension point where now we can't vote on it because of what you did not because of what we requested as elected officials. Do I got that right Mr. Worsma? >> That is 100% correct. >> What a shame.

>> I mean >> how many times Dr. Anderson, are you going to misagendize things that elected officials? No, this is a point of order. I'm point of ordering you cuz you do this so many times. >> We're not done talking, Dr. Karaski. You can you can take action on it and cure and correct if you want to violate the

Brown Act. >> Can't you just do the right thing and agenda what an elected official request by law? Can't you just do the right thing instead of >> constantly running resistance on us? I mean, this is ridiculous. This is like the fifth or sixth time you've done this. >> He's not attacking you. He's asking for accountability. >> Okay.

>> Okay. So, I'm going to ask again and would you put this in the notes, Len? Um we have talked about that we currently are in litigation for a resolution and the majority of the board has said we don't want to keep putting resol unnecessary resolutions. There are some that are necessary but um there's one to two unnecessary resolutions brought onto

our agenda and this could I mean Dr. Dr. Woods I mean Dr. Woods and I when we make the agenda we can determine is this business of the district. So it's up to him and I to decide that. I want it in the minutes and we're going to take consensus so that nobody forgets that we did this because we've done it before.

Does the board want to keep putting resolutions, unnecessary resolutions on the agenda or should we wait until the current litigation is settled? I thought that we said we're not going to keep bringing unnecessary resolutions because we are in a little bit of trouble for a resolution. Um, can I get board consensus? >> We're in more trouble than you think.

>> No, no, I know. But let's say like so we can't deliberate. Okay. Okay. So we've deliberated it on. We've deliberated it on before. We've talked about it before. I'm going to keep doing this until >> like >> it's already been said. It's already been said, >> but we have not deliberated on it and it doesn't relate to the CRT resolution.

That's all dishonesty. >> Okay. So I was under the impression that Mr. Schwarz and Mr. Barham both did not want resolutions. This we're just going to have to just move on from this one anyways because it's a Brown Act. >> Can I just make a comment on No, it's not. I just want to be clear. What I'm

saying is >> the idea of debating whether to have resolutions on the future agendas is not on tonight's agenda. Correct. So debating tonight about whether to have certain resolutions is not something that you can discuss. >> So we won't discuss it anymore. >> We won't discuss it. >> Okay. So, and then um this was moved. Should we just postpone it? Would

someone like to make the motion to postpone this till the next meeting? >> I I I don't know exactly what it is. So, I can't vote to postpone it or to vote >> to postpone AB495 resolution. >> I don't know what the resolution says. >> I don't know. Okay. >> I don't know. >> Okay. It's it's moot. Okay. We'll go on.

>> Thank you. So, California school. So, so that's it. >> Uh, Dr. Anderson, for clarification and accountability, the next time I request, because this has happened multiple times, if I request something to be put on the agenda as an elected official, are you going to honor my ability to do this or are you going to put it in

future agenda items? Again, >> Dr. woods are >> I want you to publicly tell me because we're on the fifth or sixth iteration of you doing this >> and giving us red herrings and straw man arguments. I I could just name them on and on. >> Further, Mr. Huff has already spoken to this in the past as our board council.

>> You cannot stifle an elected official for agendaizing items as long as it's within a 10day window. >> That's right. >> It's part of our bylaws. [Music] If it's submitted submitted compiance with the board bylaw. >> Okay. >> Okay. So, if it's submitted within compliance of the board bylaw, we will put it on the agenda. >> You mind telling us what? Because we we

just said 10day window and now you're saying compliance with the board law. I got specific. You went general. Can you specify? >> I I don't recall the specifics in in your bylaw. It had a window. I want to say within a week. I want to say seven within seven days. >> Can we agendaize this nine days ago from

the date that it dropped? Correct. >> I brought the governing handbook for him to take with him if he needs it because I counted on this being a problem. >> Okay. Can I ask a question, Mr. DeMarco? >> I'm sorry. >> I always thought that >> we can't Yeah. I always thought that if we're going to put something,

>> we're not supposed to have that conversation right now. >> Why? >> Okay. Okay. The qu the question is is I always thought that if we want to agendaize something like I'm going to ask that something be put as a future agenda item tonight, okay, for a future meeting that we need to reach consensus that that thing can go

on as a future agenda item. Mrs. We're Oh, >> that's not what the governance handbook says. There's two tracks. >> I'm just asking just brought it. I'll give it to your attorney. It's okay. They pulled up the governance handbook and we've read over it already. So, we were we were >> You can't have unilateral authority through a super president.

>> It's not your turn. >> Or for the tyranny of the majority to make the decision. That's not lawful and it's not legal. >> Okay. Point of order. >> Okay. >> Uh we talked about this. We knew this was coming. So, right now we can't agendaize the the matter. they cannot talk about we've got you've future agenda item needs to be how are we going

to address agenda items. Okay, so we knew this was coming >> and so we're going to move on. >> The next is the next item is um general public comments. >> We have 19. >> You have 19. I say one minute. >> I agree. >> One minute. >> One minute is horrible. We've never at least since I've been a board member,

we've never done this. Not even a minute and a half. Two 2 minutes minimum. They wait all night long to speak and then to go to one minute. >> One minute. You got one minute. >> You know what? >> Let's do three minutes. >> Amen. Three minutes. >> Let's do three. >> There you go. You guys want three?

>> Three minutes. >> I got nothing to do tomorrow. Oh my gosh. >> I haven't. >> It's good to be retired. >> No, I don't I don't agree with that. >> I want to be retired. >> Wait, m Mr. Schwarz. Mr. Schwarz, I don't agree with three minutes. I want two minutes. >> Let's just do Let's just do two. That's

>> two minutes. >> I'll I'll go along with you for two minutes. Let's go two. >> Okay. And you said two minutes. Mrs. Wearsman, >> I'm fine with two. >> Okay. Two. We have consensus for two minutes. >> Okay. First up, we have Allison followed by Michael. >> Allison had to leave. Um, this turned into a meeting that wasn't a safe space.

So, I'm going to read the comments >> for her. >> Just let it go. >> Um, like so many of you, I love Tmacula. We moved here four years ago to build a life for our family. I admired the mountain views, the parks in every neighborhood, the highly rated schools, and the simple joy of having a backyard.

My childhood didn't look like that. So, when I became a parent, I made myself a promise. My kids would never live in fear. They would never wonder if they'd have food to eat. They would never feel unloved. Isn't that what every parent wants? So far, I've kept that promise. But tonight, I feel that confidence slipping. One thing that sets me apart

from many of you is this. One of my children is transgender, and it weighs on my heart every day, knowing her path will never be easy. I can't put a band-aid on the world and kiss kiss it better. I can't keep her in a bubble and I refuse to lie about who she is. She is kind, funny, fearless, sassy, beautiful,

and yes, sometimes a pain in my butt, but she will never doubt my love for her. Not for a single second. As parents of transgender children, we carry a unique weight. I can't count the times I've cried from the anxiety of imagining her outed in a cruel or unwelcoming way. Right now, she is still young enough not

to understand what this country is doing. How some are trying to erase people like her and turn them into something to fear. For now, she blissfully wears her favorite dress to school with the perfect shoes, a little lip gloss, and she has a great day. But I know the day is coming when she will feel the sting of rejection. And as her

mom, I'm doing everything I can to prepare for it. This is why I cannot support the forms that you'll be looking at later. They should never be a piece of paper at school linking a child's identity to mental health unless there is a real diagnosed condition that affects their learning. This form doesn't protect kids. It puts them in

danger. It stirs the pot of transphobia and tmacula. Can I have 10 seconds more? >> No, I can't. Sorry. Thank you. >> Michael followed by Mary. Is there a Michael Davis? Davis. >> I didn't hear the uh last name. I'm sorry. >> Thank you for allowing me to speak with you this evening. I also come to you

this evening as a parent of a transgender child. This evening I watched the power of fear take place in loud voices, screaming remarks and pushing of fear such to an extreme that a fear takes away the opportunity to really hear the problems that are taking place. I too went through a journey with my son. I saw the freedom of a new

haircut. I saw the freedom of being able to use his name and his identity. I saw a smile that disappeared for years return. Every time I sit and I hear fear-based language, fear-based language creates villains even within the attempt of caring for other people. Now, as I share this with you, I want to tell the entire board, thank you. You are trying your

best to take care of children. And within that process, we trip over ourselves sometimes as we try to do our best for everyone's children. Some children end up getting hurt. And sometimes it's the ones that are accidentally villainized because of what we think the right path is. Sometimes we lay our religion and it gets in the way.

Sometimes we lay our personal beliefs and understandings. We let the things that we don't understand take control. and they become stumbling blocks that begins to hurt another person. I would like to thank you my dear young friend for the language that you used earlier this evening. The language that you used earlier this evening was a challenge for

us to actually listen to the voices of the individuals that are becoming hurt and or villainized. The voices that are being villainized don't feel safe to come into this place to speak because of the loud fear-based language. This is a battlefield that could harm them. I'm begging you to do your best to care for LGTV. Mary Davis, followed by Jennifer San

Nicholas. >> Hi, good evening, Mary Davis. Um, and this is as much a comment to my younger self as it is to any board member or parent that may need to help this. This is truth spoken with compassion and grace. Society has yet again been sold off to an egregious lie by those who would profit from it, both politically

and monetarily. As an older mother now, I see the societal shift where we gave up our motherly intuition and common sense and instead outsourced it to the expert class who profited off of our children under the pretense of care. Is there any coincidence that a generation of kids that had the box ADHD checked and was put on aderall and rolin has now

succumbed to a life of drug use? They were the Pabloian trained, imprinted by an establishment that was supposed to protect them, not turn them into lifelong patients and drug seekers. And now I pivot to a message to all moms and dads. Your child is perfect the way he is. He does not need to have his body altered or be pumped full of drugs by

those who would seek to turn him into a customer for life. I truly believe most of you want your what's best for your kids and love them. But too many have seemed to fallen into the trap of seeding your parental authority over to others and abandoning your parental discernment. I want to urge all parents to reclaim that authority. Do not be

cowed by those telling you that your children need to change or that they will harm themselves if you don't play along. That is not science, medicine, counseling or therapy. It is manipulation and emotional blackmail. History is chalk full of endless examples where the medical and expert class got it long wrong like theomide and labbotoies. Do not let your sons or

daughters be this generation's sacrificial lime lamb sacrificed on the altar of medical >> time. Thank you. Jennifer San Nicholas, followed by just one mom. >> She She left. >> All right. I'm going to let others cover the walk out that wasn't a walk out that two trustees protested a child in a protected class despite being asked by

the principal to stay away. They will mention the out of town clown show you spurred on and the lack of support from actual Tmcculins. So, I'll let them go there. Instead, I'm going to talk about how Dr. Dr. Kamroski had the audacity to reply to emails from constituents, including staff members, with a clip of your interview with Matt Gates, the

former congressman who had to resign in disgrace. He resigned in disgrace because a report was about to come out that would out all of his proclivities with underage girls. The investigation into his participation of trafficking of underage girls would become public. If he resigned, the gory details would stay under wraps. The man paid underage traffic girls for their

services with Venmo and you thought that it was okay to brag about this. So if you're all for protecting girls, why are you affiliating yourself? >> Thank you. >> So just one mom isn't here. >> Um Christine Masa followed by Miss Strange. So, I want to start by paraphrasing the original parts of policy 5145.3 that nobody's talking about. It states that

the board prohibits unlawful discrimination, including discriminatory harassment, including sexual harassment, intimidation, and bullying targeted at any student by anyone based on the student's actual or perceived gender, gender identity, or gender expression. The bullying of a TVUSD student cannot be tolerated. What is Kamroski and Weisma of the walk out organized and led by parents with no affiliation with

TVUSD and promoted on social media by them both. The mostly San Diego based crowd were on video standing right next to Jen while trespassing on campus property. And this was all after Principal Souza requested that no school board members attend. And Jen, I was really surprised because you always say you work so many hours that you can't

even talk to lawyers until the weekend, but you had time for this. So later that week, both Wema and Kamroski reposted content from just one mom, boasting factually inaccurate information about the mental health and religious accommodation forms being required even though they both knew that those forms were never approved. And then Mr. Kamaskki, you doubled down appearing on

a news outlet talking to who was it? a known drug abuser and person who's used Venmo to pay for sex with underage women. I guess reputable people, reputable people won't even tolerate your lies. But the bright side of last week was seeing the affirming messages and drawings written in chalk on the sidewalk surrounding DMS, drawn by a

much larger group of actual TVUSD parents and students the night before the walk out. Those messages remain long after the sentiments of the walk out to remind those kids who TVUSD really is. Thank you. >> Thank you, Miss Strange, followed by Janice. First, I want to thank the brave girls who refused to undress in front of a

male, even when they were pressured. They were right, the others were wrong. You sparked national mo a national movement that made millions proud. Do not comply. Second, as a member of the Rainbow community myself and formerly a manager of an adult transgender trans transgender safe house years ago, I can assure you that none of those individuals took cross- sex hormones or amputated

their genitalia. Why? They told me it made them sexually dysfunctional and emotional volatile. Kids and parents, if your child is transgender and all I can say is do not, please do not medicalize them. Love them unconditionally. Be supportive, but do not medicalize them. Why? Because it halts brain development. It makes them volatile or can it also turns them into a lifong

big pharma patient and statistics have shown that more transgenders have committed suicide after being medicalized than not. I suggest you you look Google dtransitioners and hear their stories. They will tell you what they've been through. You won't hear it on mainstream media, but if you Google dransition, excuse me, dransitioners, please listen to them. Melinda, your presidency has brought chaos,

humiliation to kids. Time maybe Um, first I want to say that if a board member during the board meeting requests an item to be put on the agenda and there's a second, it must be included on the next agenda. I will send you the government codes and you um, I'll include you, Mr. DeMarco. Um, but okay. that also and pursuant to education code

section 35145.5 NTVUSD board bylaw 9322 which guarantees the public's right to place district business on the board's agenda. I formally requested both verbally and in writing that the implications of the July 16th declaration I'm leaving out the word sworn um be placed on tonight's regular board meeting agenda. That request was neither included on the agenda nor acknowledged with any

explanation from the district. And in even if it was just a letter and not a sworn declaration, the implications still need to be addressed. Therefore, I'm reiterating my request that this matter be included on the next regular board meeting agenda. If it is not, I will have to file a compliance complaint with the California Department of Education. I believe it is critical for

this board to address the questions that were raised about Trustee Anderson's potential dishonesty during the sexual harassment investigation. This issue clearly falls within the board's jurisdiction as the board majority voted to release the Nicole Miller investigation report. And this declaration or letter directly calls into question the validity of the findings and the conclusions of that investigation report which was publicly

released including as an attachment with the July 21st meeting agenda and therefore it is a matter of public record. Finally, for the sake of transparency, accountability and public trust, I urge the board to ensure this issue is addressed openly at the next regular board meeting. Thank you. [Applause] Mariah, followed by Christopher. Hi, my name is Mariah. My husband and I

have a son in fourth grade and a daughter in sixth grade here at TVUSD. Tonight, I just want to speak briefly about our children's safety in locker rooms. I'm incredibly proud of my 11-year-old daughter. She's private. She struggles with social anxiety, but she's also deeply empathetic. Just last week, she and my nine-year-old son helped me chalk the day middle

school sidewalks with positive messages. She says she doesn't care whether someone was born a boy or a girl. What matters to her is feeling safe, not being stared at, pointed at, whispered at, or bullied. And she wants that safety for everyone, not just for herself. Let's be clear, transgender kids are not putting themselves in danger of scrutiny

and bullying so they can creep on other students. That narrative comes from fear and prejudice, not reality. What's truly unsafe is inappropriate behavior, staring, unwanted advances, threats, or bullying. That's not about gender identity. It's about conduct, and it should be addressed by responsible adults under the law. I have heard a lot lately about precedent that the majority shouldn't have to make

accommodations for a minority. But I believe that a healthy community shows that the moral responsibility of a good majority is to lift up the marginalized with openness, empathy, and compassion. That's how we build safe schools and safe communities. Thank you for your time. Thank you, Christopher. Followed by Kristen. >> Is there a Christopher? >> Christopher Kristen. >> Uh Kristen. Okay. Followed by Greg.

At the start of this meeting for 50 minutes, I heard multiple personal attacks from Dr. Anderson and other board members who made statements tonight. Specifically, you came to my house and had graffiti in my neighborhood. Dr. Anderson, that is liel. Tik Tok, libs of Tik Tok, the Department of Education, and the assistant attorney general at the United

States are likely watching this meeting because they watched the last one. I know because I notified them on X. They saw the last meeting and John Murray's Cybel who harassed parents and children at the walk out didn't help. It made national news. I am recording this as an independent journalist to X. And as a teacher with 19 years of

experience, because the world has seen the actions of members of this board that would not be tolerated in a kindergarten class. Julie Hamill, US assistant attorney out of LA, who now works for US attorney, the former representative, Billis. I will personally be notifying them as well as the assistant attorney general Harit Dylan and her assistant Jesus Ostate as well as the president of the

United States by filing a civil rights complaint against the district of Tmacula. I will be writing each of them a personal letter as well. for the girls that had to go home because they had to study. I have to be at school tomorrow morning. It's 4 7:45. I stayed because girls, I want you to contact Dylan Law Group or Paul Jonah of

the Thomas Moore Society, Riley Gaines, Jennifer Say, Pamela McNab as well by X. We will fight for you. You are not alone. and board. You answer to the state, but you answer to two, three, four higher authorities, the parents, the federal government, and your God. Think about that tonight when you go to sleep about the lies you told.

>> Next, >> Greg, followed by Rosie. >> Okay. So, I I have two comments. Um, I appreciate it. Um, Melinda, you're trying to get people working together. One of the things that I remember a while ago was you and Jen kind of committing to work on dress code because I think, you know, the two female people on the board attacking or not attacking,

but addressing that issue. It's a big issue in high school. I I taught high school. um dress code is not an easy one to address, but maybe you guys could consider working on that one. Um the other issue, uh I just came across this article in Epic Times about AI and I kind of agree with Joseph that this is

something we really need to pause and consider. I'm an English teacher. When you teach English, you have to have the discussion that that helps kids learn how to write. uh you don't want kids in front of a computer all the time. That the essential part of education is really that interaction between a good teacher and the student. And I'm afraid

if if um a we don't really know the the um effect AI is going to have on kids. It's kind of a petri dish right now. Uh so I'm concerned. I think one of the things you guys can do, your school board members, you go around and see how AI is working out and every so often you

have a discussion on it because it is new. I know as an English teacher, it's a easy way for kids to write a paper and and they're not learning how to write. They're not learning how to think and it's tough for teachers to figure out is that really their own writing or not. So anyway, just encouraging you to to

tread slowly on this. You know that be be careful with it. So thank you. >> Thank you Rosie followed by Gabriel. >> Rosie's gone. Gabriel. >> I'm Rosie. >> Oh >> no. >> Oh. Oh. I can't I can't identify as Rosie. >> So reality matters. Okay. Yes. I just want to >> Who's the next one? Gabriel. Gabriel.

>> No. Daniel. Daniel. Just 10 days ago, I emailed well, excuse me, I called PGAI and uh asked for their right to form privacy um their reasonable expectation of privacy resource and they emailed me with the link told me use it freely. Uh what's interesting though that I'd like to point out is that I went through the

proper procedures and I gave it to somebody to give to the president and then you ignored it. You didn't even bring it up. Uh, and it's funny. I was scolded for giving it to my trustee representative during a five-minute break. I didn't realize that there were rules for this. But you know, Dr. Anderson, as the president, you're not

the gatekeeper of the information. If something gets presented to you that that relates to an argument you're having, you should present it whether you like it or not. And this lady spoke earlier about how she gave books. No, nobody else got it, but you did. Again, that shows that you got the books for all the board members, but you acted as

the gatekeeper. That is horrific leadership. That is just I I just I just can't even believe it, Dr. Anderson. You know, I'm I'm I'm sorry. I I It has nothing to do about how I feel about anybody personally, just as a leader. You have to represent all of us, and you're not. You gatekeep information that you want to say that you don't want

to say. It's embarrassing. And you know, there's people on this side that I know you like and you work with and you you meet with them to make these policies, they didn't clap at all for the girls standing up here. But I understand why. Cuz the mom of the one transgender students there and they didn't want to

disrespect. So, let me get this straight. We're okay with standing with the people that we feel like are oppressed, but we can just on everyone else. We could just treat other children like crap. What a poor example. These people who are your people now, they are setting for our district and you're leading them and it shows in your

leadership and I'm so disappointed. >> Thank you. Next. >> Up. >> Up followed by Rachel. >> Upnate. We can tell you what that is about. >> Um, I'm going to finish out the mom's comment because it's pretty similar to what I was going to say. Anyways, Christie started the comment. It stirs the pot of transphobia in Tmacula and

gives hatred and misinformation doorway into our schools. And we've already seen the result. Adults standing outside of a middle school protesting a child's existence. That is cruel. It has no place in our schools. Do you think that the po poor child believed it was just about a form? Do you think her parents are not terrified for her physical and

emotional safety? These are our children. They deserve better from all of us. Please remember at the end of the day, every parent wants the same thing for our kids to get a good education and feel safe while doing it. I'm going to come back. Pas are in progress. We're going to find out the source of misinformation who has been given this

uh misinformation to everybody. and uh one of um uh Mrs. uh Versma's friend who like led a battle against the transgender people, the fifth place swimmer. Every all the transgender athletes medals have been stripped, everything's gone away. She is still a fifth place swimmer. Nothing changed for her. Uh another thing I want to call out, um this is from the national parks.

When they say they designed the trash cans, they have to be good enough where the bear can't get it. But the like the smartest bear and the dumbest human have the same amount of intelligence and that's how hard it is to write policies. There's a wide range that you have to cover. But I think the proposed policy

today has added no value beyond what state and federal law already guarantee in instead it has created red tape forcing parents and students to fill out forms and file complaints just to access the rights that are already automatic. The girls who came and spoke up over here even if they don't fill out the form they have every right to privacy

today. There's nothing new that is being offered to them. They can go talk to the teacher whatever accommodation they want. They want more than 5 minutes, they can go today to the health office or wherever they want to go change to get more time. There's nothing all you cannot discriminate against trans the trans uh student. But there's nothing

stopping them from getting it. Okay. Time >> Rachel followed by Ted. >> Hi, thank you. My name is Rachel Dennis. Um, I have been a minister in the valley for about 17, 18 years. When I heard about the protest against a child, I became very alarmed. It reminded me of the trans children that have shown up on my doorstep because

their parents are kicking them out of their house. The misinformation and ignorance in this room tonight has just blown my mind. You have so many scared people here over a trans child that you're pulling mental health care away from foster kids and kids that are truly struggling. I have a mentally ill daughter that did not receive appropriate care in the

public school systems and you're taking this fear and you're harming other kids with it as well as the transgender student. Cannot believe you guys went and protested a child. I am also the mother of a queer child and I watched as Christian people in this town came after her to the point that I had to withdraw her from

Christian school because she attempted suicide at all of the hate and the fear and the ignorance going around and what you guys are doing is perpetuating that amongst our kids. I don't see any of you or I have heard of any of you come and speak to us as parents because we're trying to navigate this with our kids despite what we've

been told and taught and we are simply trying to keep our children alive and you're protesting them. Your morality is not my morality as a Christian because I don't see love in you. >> Time time. >> Ted, is Ted here? Okay, Dr. Reev. Hello everyone, Dr. Nrev here. Anderson, I see you hired the probably one of the

most expensive parliamentarians in the world and you're penny pinching about going on a trip to DC. Let's enumerate your accomplishments, Anderson and Barham. one, you took the helm with no experience whatsoever and look where we are right now. You made us the ridicule of the nation. The re actually internationally the first thing I think one of the first

thing that you did is resend the flag policy. What's happening with that? You told me in text me message that you're going to reinstate it in a in a pace that the left heads are going to roll. What happened with that? I'm going to post this um post this message that he sent me online. All right. You both of you, you left at

Kumlaskki and Wesma on May and June when they offered a responsible responsible alternative and look at where we are now. Maybe you should have listened to these two veterans. What do you say? And more and more and more. And let's not forget, I don't have a lot of time, but let's not forget why we are speaking now at almost 11:00 is because the three

of you think that the public comes last and our words are peace and vinegar. That's your words, Dr. Anderson. And the unions, they come first in a spotlight. You all three should be ashamed of yourself. I want I call am Emil Baram and Dr. Anderson to resign. Dr. Anderson resign >> time. >> Who's next? >> For what?

We pulled it earlier. >> I'm off. Sorry. Where am I? >> This. Do we want to do this? >> No, that was just that was future agenda items. >> Okay. >> So, um >> I I just put on future agenda items. um the religious accommodation that's just on the agenda because I I put the forms from Advocates of Faith and Freedom if

we ever want to bring those back, but we don't have to. And Pacific Justice Institute. So, we're Are we on future agenda items? >> I totally got Okay. Is there Okay. So, Mr. Mr. Barham, you have a future agenda item you'd like to propose? I would like to um give direction to our superintendent and our superintendent designate

to explore what it means to be PE ready because I think that we PE has been institutionalized as something that we have been used to for years and maybe we need to start exploring other options as to what PE ready could mean. In other words, maybe we don't dress out. >> Okay. So, >> I mean, those types of things, it's

thinking outside the box, but it's it's it's something to consider and it's an option and I think we need to explore it with our PE teachers and our staff. And I would like to give direction to you and to our superintendent designate that we explore those options because I think that it would possibly alleviate some of the some of

the issues that we're having here. >> Okay. So I want to clarify you want on the future agenda under information items a discussion about PE dress out. Yeah. >> Is that is that maybe brought back maybe what do you think in November October or November? >> Yeah. So Mr. Barham, I would suggest probably November. That would give us

some time to meet with our administrators and PE teachers um and community representatives. >> Okay. So, does the board are you guys get good if we put an information item on dress out for PE one two? >> I have one other point of note. >> Okay. Is it regarding putting this on future? >> Yes, it is. It is in regards to that

because there was a previous item uh I had looked to agenda specifically regarding physical education and some goals. So I would like to if Mr. Barhamm is proposing that to bring back what is not yet come so that we can discuss a couple of different areas of physical education and where we can go especially in light of um federal government

looking at the presidential fitness and the benchmarks that we have here in California and where we can go to continue to get better. So that was a dual conversation that I think we can have and it was something already on um the radar. So, um, presidential fitness, do we want to put that on future on next week's ag next meeting agenda or the

>> are we discussing this? >> No, no, we're talking about putting it on agenda. >> No, I don't want to put it on the agenda. >> It was on an agenda. Did we remove it? What happened when was on the agenda? We already spoke to our uh physical ed people about what they do and most of what we do already parallels what uh

President Obama when he updated the physical uh president's physical fitness test. So most of that stuff is already in play. >> Can you remind me we had it on an agenda and I can't remember >> did we remove it from the agenda? What did we do with that? >> I think we removed it. >> Mrs. Okay, let let me Yes, let me delineate

on what happened. That was something that I asked to be on the agenda. You agreed to pull it off and said, I know you might need some more time to prepare. It goes beyond the physical fitness award. I am honored to know a number of PE teachers here in the district and I have spoken with them and

I think there's some really good points to bring forward that I have in notes at home. So, I'd like to propose it's a full context decision. Information is fine. we can weave in um not dressing out. That's what I said earlier for the AR regulations and looking at new policy. It most definitely should be considered. >> So, real quick, information item

regarding PE fit like physical fitness. Is that a good topic? Sure. Okay. Physical fitness. >> Could I just comment? I'm sorry. >> Yeah. I I don't I don't want to overstep the bounds of our athletic people and put something on the agenda without running it by them first. I I think we need to talk to our uh the high school

uh the people like Tony Calfano and at Great Oak, all the high school people who deal with fizzed, the principles of the high schools, the principles of the middle schools, okay, >> the PE teachers before we rush ahead and put something on the agenda that we want them to implement and they may think is not good. So I I don't want to overstep

our bounds as a board and put and put policies on that the school district uh may already have and >> Okay, this is uh >> anformational item though is a proposed policy. It's >> Dr. It's Dr. VeZ's turn. >> So Mr. Schwarz um and Dr. Anderson, I with the direction of the board and the consensus of the board, we can actually

bring back not only the PE ready, but we can also pull our administrators and PE teachers and have the discussion about the physical fitness assessment and kind of talk about what we currently do and other direction. So, with the with the board's direction, we can go ahead and do that. And I would also suggest we bring that back in November. That gives

us some time. >> Okay. So, on >> so yeah, go ahead. You want to we're talking about making the agenda. So, I'm all for this. And what I would say since it's being pushed to October or November, can we send out a survey to the PE teachers? It gives you enough time to collect data. >> I'm all about surveys when we can do

them. And what do you think? I'd like to give direction and agree to all of it with the survey. >> So, Dr. Karaski, I think that's a great idea. What I think step one would be was pulling together a committee first of teachers and principles to help create that survey and then we can send that survey out to kind of to really get the

idea of of so many of our PE teachers. So I'm completely open to that. >> Okay. >> What's the rest of the board think? >> So anyone opposed putting that in November and then they'll work in committee getting all that ready. Okay. physical fitness is um the next meeting will vote on the assistant clerk. Can you put that?

>> Is there any other future agenda items that we're going to put on? Student board member, you could put agenda items on. You know that, right? >> Okay. >> Yeah. Let's talk about how we're gonna how we're going to So, um, we we'll talk to the attorneys. We'll have them look over our governance workshop. I think this gave you an

example of how we'd like it to go that we like to talk about future agenda items and then decide as a board where they go um so that there's consensus and that's kind of what we need our policy to reflect. >> Okay. So, on the next meeting we're gonna Oh, I'm sorry. Real quick, I was just on the next meeting, we're going to

talk about maybe even changing our governance handbook so that we have this consensus of how the agendas are going to look. We can always bring it to future agenda items. And then just like what we're doing right now, we'll just want to hammer it out so it's clear to everyone. So, that will be on next meeting. And then did you have another

item? >> No, I was just going to say that the city actually has a policy. >> Yeah. where they bring forth agenda items and they I don't know exactly how it's done, but it is a formal policy and without violating the Brown Act, they they're able to bring forth policy items that they know are going to get three or more

votes. They're not wasting their time with, hey, if I if only one person is in support of this. They don't even bring it forth. And I think that's one of the reasons why they get along so well. >> Can you look into that? I mean, yes. Bring it. Could you send it to me and we'll send it to the

>> Yeah, I mean, that's that's how they do it. >> So, I don't know what it is that they're doing, but I'll send it to you. Okay. Um, any other future agenda items? No. Okay. Um, next is board comments, I think. How many how many minutes do we usually take for Can we cut that tonight to like one?

>> One? >> Absolutely not. >> Wait. Well, it it's board consensus. >> Okay. >> I don't know. >> I'd like to ask for best practices of three minutes. So, if you're going to do two and a half, you might as well do three. Joseph wants three. >> No, I've got three. We've got consensus of three. People want three minutes.

Okay. Well, I tried. >> Yes. So, um, due to the continued focus on the Nicole Miller Oh, I'm sorry. Due to the continued focus on the Nicole Miller investigation by people who have no idea what they're talking about, who don't live in our community, I am compelled to read from it so people know what's going on. And if anyone wants the whole

thing, you just let me know and I will send you all 53 pages, not a half page signed affidavit or declaration by someone. Page two, Nicole Miller and Associates did not sustain Mrs. Wears allegation of sexual harassment by Mr. Schwarz. Nor was there evidence to suggest the district acted negligently in its response to Mrs. Wearsman's complaint. Page eight. The investigator

noted several inconsistencies in Mrs. Weisman's account throughout her interview and her statement seems to have lacked consistency over time. Page nine. The investigation found Mr. Schwarz to be straightforward and consistent over time, providing concise responses in a non nonsens demeanor. Of note, no other witnesses heard him make the remark alleged of him, including Dr. Anderson, whom Mrs.

Wearsman named as a direct witness. It further feels necessary to point out that the likelihood of Mr. Schwarz making this alleged remark is questionable. given his commonly known contentious relationship with Mrs. Wearsma. Page 14, Dr. Anderson, wholly denied Mrs. Wearsma's allegation that she heard Mr. Schwarz make the comment, saying, "That's just Steve." First, she pointed out that she did not know Mr.

Schwarz prior to her being elected to the board. She said that when it became apparent she was going to win the election, she made an effort to meet with him. Mr. Schwarz initially declined her request to meet. When they did ultimately meet, their interaction was cordial. Dr. Anderson said that because of this contentious history, when the board attended CSBA, she asked Mr.

Schwarz to move on and let bygones be bygones. However, he was not interested in dinner. He initially said, "No, I will never break bread with her." Then when Mr. Schwarz came down to meet the group for dinner. She stood next to him in an effort to make him feel more comfortable. That's Dr. Anderson. And uh we took the photo. The conclusion. In

accordance with our findings, Nicole Miller and associates did not sustain Mrs. Wears allegation of sexual harassment. The investigation found concerns about the credibility of and motivation of Mrs. Wearsman's complaint. Tmacula through thick and thin. It's been an honor to serve you as a trustee for nearly three years. Having just visited Alamos Elementary the other day, I always leave those site visits

reminded of the very reason why God brought me to this place in a purposeful way. Time and time again, I've seen his divine providence in my relationship with others, both within and outside this district, and I have been blessed with the opportunity to be forged by fire with a colleague like Dr. Kamroski. I aim to tell the truth, and I will

always call balls and strikes to the best of my ability. The truth will be heard with this investigation because it seems it was held in a kangaroo court due to the dishonesty of my two colleagues. Time is going to tell that story. I now face the challenge of being limited by this board president in serving you to my fullest capacity as a

dyeleed official. My voice along with many of you has been consistently stifled in a controlling, dishonest and unethical manner. When I am unable to contact legal counsel with basic questions, agendaize proposals as per our bylaws or even introduce myself at a parent engagement conference. One has to ask, is this an abuse of authority and position? Bylaw 9271, the code of ethics, is where

a board member's position requires devoting sufficient time, thought, and study to proposed actions to be able to base decisions upon all of the facts. Trusty Anderson and I met in a May subcommittee, discussed the proposal Dr. Kamski and I brought forward. She agreed to have attorneys re review the work. two week two weeks ago it was confirmed

by multiple voices she had not done so here's a quote from one of our staff as a school psychologist to say I was appalled by the proposed policy of religious and mental health exemptions would be an extreme understatement we have not done our best to maneuver through this situation hateful comments and lies have been directed at kind-hearted good people I'm confused

how we got here and I question the confidence of the members who felt these exemptions were appropriate I'm sorry but tears seem to be a form of manipulation, and I'm not falling for it. The egregious fallout of last week's protest, coupled with the worldwide repudiation of TVUSD, has forced our staff and students to bear the burden of

a president who had no experience and was unable to listen. It seems her refusal to submit the honest work of her colleagues means there is an inability to prioritize this district over a personal struggle with pride and power. I'd like to ask yourself, does this person have any business leading a board or serving as a representative of the

people? In December, Dr. Kamroski and I encouraged our newest board members to work with us instead of usurping leadership roles they were unprepared to fill or even collaborate on. And to this day, they are looking to sty us. Yes, you too, Mr. Bar. Mr. Barham, every step of the way. >> Next. [Applause] >> Is it Dr. Kamoski? Are you next?

Yes. >> And then bar him. Okay. >> Okay. I just want to give a shout out to Kaylee, Brooklyn, Brooklyn, Elellena for bravely speaking at this board meeting. It takes a lot of courage to get up and speak at a mic. Even adults driven from a three-minut to a two-minute to a one- minute speech under psychological pressure. That's a lot. I'm proud of the

go I'm proud of the girls for doing this at the middle school level. Shows uh character and leadership. I condemn any attacks on this young boy at DMS um and any other student involved. I am sick and tired of the hate speech from the progressive liberals trying to impose that I'm pushing out hate speech by standing with girls at a protest. There

is a simultaneity with me representing the values of my community and at the same time praying that this boy doesn't get harmed or any other boy. And I've said this at church in multiple interviews, and I'm just going to diffuse one of these straw man arguments accusing me of something that I'm not even doing at all. I I I literally am

opposed to anybody threatening this little boy or any other girl with any sort of gender dysphoria. And at the same time, I have values. I am not for gender dysphoria. I am against it. I was elected for my values. I can stand at a protest. Yes, I wasn't even planning on going. But guess what? Those two girls,

Brooklyn and Kaylee, and their mothers asked me to go, so I did, and I stood with them. And I think that it's worth standing for because I don't want this issue being pushed on our schools, pushed on our kids, where they have to come up and demand privacy. It just sucks. And it goes back to Mrs. Worma's idea of agendaizing this on the

May 13th meeting with the reasonable right to privacy policy. Even if the specific policy wasn't voted in, the concept of pro privacy was valuable because it leveled the the playing field with her idea of let's do this at the beginning of the semester so that nobody's targeted. Everyone has a right to privacy. Let's let's uh let's honor

it right then and there. And that wasn't happening. So, here we are. Um I just want to say I'm proud of all the parents that wait to the end of the meeting to speak for or against me. I look, you guys are all warriors. This is a long night and I push to have all these comments at the beginning of the

meeting. I'm traditional like that. I am sorry you have to wait. I am sorry your three minutes were cut down to one. I'm just I I'm against that. So, um yeah. Um I just want to give a shout out to the person that emails me these cards probably once a week. These thank you cards. Uh there's no name. I can't thank

him, but they're scripture. I'll read one. Zephaniah 3:17 to honor this person. The Lord your God in in in the midst. The mighty one will save. He will rejoice over you with gladness. He will quiet you with his love. He will rejoice over you with singing. I thought that's cool. So, I get I get these twice or

once a week, but shout out to that person for the encouragement. Um, let me see. I want to make sure I forget everything. Yeah, as an elected official, I like to agendaize things once in a while because I listen to community members or it's just something that I'm coming up with and and and I don't like the idea of

getting board consensus on. We'll let you Joseph agendaize this or not. That's stifling my voice and I'm trying to represent parents in the community. If you don't like what I agendaize, it's super simple. You just vote no. That's it. You have the power of the vote. You don't even have to say a word. You can say, "Yep, this is ridiculous. Let's

take a vote." Great. You have two minutes, three minutes, four minutes, or you say nothing and just say no. Honor the elected official. I would honor all of you. Even if I don't like your agenda item, let's hear it. I would never say don't agendaize that, dude. >> So, that's my that's my beef with that. We're elected officials. Let us do our

job. Let us agendaize stuff and stop pushing it off, Melinda. Do the right thing. Agendaize it the right way. Thank you, >> Mr. Barham. Okay. How many minutes? >> Go ahead, Mr. >> So, I have been working with um our CTE folks um and I'm happy to report um through my conversations which began months ago with Mr. Arce and uh Amy

Paradise, um Jenny Hooter and Amy Ricken. This week we introduced our education and family services pathway, growing our bench with Great Oak High School Capstone students. This week, 19 Great Oak High School Capstone students in the education pathway are being onboarded through human resources to become official TVUSD district employees. As paid student interns, they will work 6 to 12 hours per week at

various basis sites across the district. In their role, students will support academic tutoring, lead outdoor activities, and design creative classroom experiences for bases participants. This unique opportunity, one that very few districts in California currently provide, positions TVUSD as a leader in creating authentic paid work-based learning experiences for students. And I'm really proud to have been part of that.

Um, it's been a rough week. I'm very sorry that I've seen adults on social media create misinformation. I don't believe that those uh that that protest was parent or studentled because I watched it on Friday night starting with Sonia Shaw um outside agitators from Florida, Jason and Elizabeth Craig and then our board members. And that is where it started. And I saw it

materialize. And I think that and I'm just going to come out and say it. I reached out to Sonia Shaw over that weekend and I said, "Let's go on Fox News. I know the person who can get us on and so do you. Let's go on Trace Gallagher and clear up all the misinformation." You think she would

agree to that? Hell no, she wouldn't. Then I said, because she threatened a press conference, I said, "Let's have a joint press conference." You think she would? She responded to me. You think she would agree to that? Hell no. And let me tell you why. Because she wants to keep this fight going. She is not interested in solutions and I have the

emails to prove it. This woman wants to keep the fight going. She has no solutions. Watch her board meeting last night. This is what you're going to get if she's elected California superintendent of public instruction and it's going to be a chaotic mess. And that's all I have to say. Thank you. >> Then we have student board member

comment. I know it's late and much of the physical audience has already left, but I hope my message still reaches the rest of the community. I'm going to talk very generally because there has been a repeating pattern at every board meeting I've attended, which I've witnessed both as an audience member before and as a student trustee. Now, our community is

very politically active. That's not a bad thing. I would say I'm very politically active and living in Tmacula has encouraged that. Civic engagement is so important and I will always encourage an individual to use their voice to speak on what they believe is right. But time and time again, dozens of community members come into these meetings and use

intentionally provocative language. I respect free speech of course and you have the right to think whatever you want. I would just request to any community member, no matter your stance, that before you come into a meeting and prepare a statement, you reconsider your language and ensure every sentence explicitly ties back to the students and their education. To make sure our board

remains productive, we must stop yelling at one another, talking over one another, interrupting one another. This is the basic respect that all students learn and practice in school. If a TVUSD student speaks or behaves in the ways that I've heard some community members speak and behave, they would get sent to the office. Maybe there's something that we can learn from that. And this isn't

just for the audience members. It's for the board members, too. Language and word choice are important. I've gotten A's in AP English courses. I've been an editor of my school's newspaper for the past few years. As a student, I've learned that our ideas are strong, but language is what leads to change. And aren't we all in this room because we

want to see change? Your point does not become stronger when you use political language and shout. Your point becomes stronger when you can express your argument in a way everyone can understand. I would hope that this is all common sense and I hope that our community continues to stay involved. But I urge that the presentation of that

involvement be carefully considered. Thank you. I'm like I feel like you should do the president's comment at the beginning and then do the board. Like honestly >> I that's Yeah, should give that. Um so next is um Dr. Woods, superintendent. >> Yeah, Melissa, good job. >> Well said. >> Excellent job. And thank you all for being here after 38 years.

I shouldn't smile so much, but my time is coming to an end here in Tmacula. I've really enjoyed being here. It's been wonderful. And I want to thank the board members, Miss Barlays in the audience and all of you for allowing me to come and serve. Uh it really it really has become a highlight for me and

I'll I'll recall so many of the great things that are going on at the sites each and every day. It yeah if you want a boost in your your emotions just go to one of our sites and you'll see it because there's a lot of great things going on there. But I also wanted to give all of you a congratulations for

selecting one of our own, a longtime person who has dedicated her life to this district. I've worked right alongside Dr. Valz the entire time I've been here. And I I just I'm proud of you. I'm thankful for the board for stepping up and appointing you, even though I know they might receive some criticism for that, but you're you're

well deserving of that. And this group here is so talented. When you have a healthy organization that's as talented as this one is, of course, you look inside and you appoint someone. I was an outsider. I had a little mission to do. I've done that mission, but now it's up to you. And I want to just give you just

the last minute and 30 seconds to say something. Thank you. >> So, Dr. Woods, thank you. It's it's truly been an honor working alongside you and this team. Um, you came into our district at a time where you were really needed and I I share this with the board at one point. I have learned so much from you. Um, and I think you were

exactly what we needed at the right time. Um, but before we adjourn, I really want to take a moment to share my deep deepest gratitude with the board. um your faith in me and our collaborative work, which I know we will all collectively do together for the betterment of this district and the students in this district, um really is

at the core of who I am. I've spent 25 years in this district. This is my home. Um I'm honored to serve in the superintendent role alongside an incredible cabinet. um moving forward. Um and you know, in my 30 years of education, I will say that being selected as the superintendent in this district is is really the crown in my cr

it's it's the jewel in my crown. So, I appreciate all of you um your faith in me and I really do think that we are going to do some great things um for kids and for families and for this community. So, thank you. >> You deserve it. All right. The next regular open session business meeting of the governing board

of education is scheduled for September 30th, 2025. This meeting is adjourned on Tuesday, September 9th, 2025 at 11:09