Board of Education — February 24, 2026

>> The regular meeting of the governing board of education is called to order by myself, Dr. Joseph Komrosky, at 4:00 p.m. on Tuesday, February 24, 2026 at the district office conference center. Approval of the agenda. Are there any requests requests for changes to the agenda? A call for motion and second to approve. And I'll be the first to say I'd like to pull action

item two. The new online textbooks, Cognity digital textbook database. Um I thought I was going to be able to look at them all hard copy. They're all online, didn't have enough time. I've asked the superintendent, she said it's fine. So I'd like to pull that item, bring it back next meeting. Any other changes? >> Yes. >> Mr. Schwartz.

>> Yes, I would like to uh remove uh info and reports item number four. Uh disagreements between board members should be settled according to board governance handbook policy, not aired in public at at open session meetings. >> All right, you want to remove four? >> Dr. Komrosky, I was going to remove that as well. >> Okay. >> wanted to inform the board that I'd sent

that letter without violating the Brown Act. >> Okay, so we have consensus. I I agree. So we have two items, Cognity action item two. We have information reports four. Any other changes? >> Yes, I I would like to remove uh and action item one, adoption of revised bylaw parliamentary procedure. I've not had a chance to have this uh

looked at by my attorney. And so before I can vote on it, I have to find out if there are any uh legal or constitutional issues, which I believe do exist with this item. >> Okay. >> I second. >> Okay, second. Um so let's do this. Are those the only changes? That's three. Let's let's vote on this last one.

There's a motion in a second. Linnea, would you call roll on this? It's this is to be clear to remove action item number one. >> Wiersma? >> No. >> Anderson? >> Barham? >> Yes. >> Schwartz? >> Kaminski? >> No. Okay, item stays. And then with the sweeping vote we can approve the agenda. >> Oh, I had one more.

>> Oh, Dr. Anderson. >> Um, just when we get to some of the policies, can there's a few that I worked on that other board members, can we just have a minute to if we want when we get to adoption of second read. So, like graduation ceremonies, can I have 1 minute? >> Yeah, we're going to >> I I didn't know if I should bring that

up now or later. >> On information or reports, we have [music] 2 minutes times 2 minutes for each item as a whole. So, you'll have time there. >> Okay. And then my last one is Um, and I'm open to to this, but if the board wants to consider moving action item number 12 to information so that we can get all our ideas

together and then either create an AR or a board bylaw for 9323 and then we'll have it written we could write it out and have it documented. >> All right, Dr. Anderson's requesting reorder the agenda for comments to be put into information or reports. >> But we don't have to. It was just so that we could after we discuss and come

up with like what we want to do, I would like to have a a bylaw that we can enter officially into the record. >> Any other board members? I don't care if it stays on action. >> I I'm sorry, I don't see the item she's referring to. Could you tell me what it is? >> 12, reorder the agenda for comments.

Mhm. >> Cons- action 12? >> 12, yep. >> Just give me 1 second, please. Action 12. >> Dr. Anderson wants to remove action item 12 into information reports. >> For what reason? >> Rather than vote on it. >> And then bring it back and then write a bylaw, so as because I think we're going to discuss it and come up with a plan.

Once we have that plan, I would like to have a bylaw or an AR written and then adopted at the next meeting. But it's a >> to the board. We can >> I'd like to vote on it tonight, but that's just me. >> I I would second your motion to remove it and move it to the next meeting.

you've got a Wiersma proposal and you've got a Kamrowski proposal. So, if we were going to vote on that tonight, are we voting on Wiersma proposal and separately from Kamrowski proposal? >> That's up for the board to figure out. Do they want either or or merge? Yeah, it's >> I I would like to vote on it tonight,

but I would like to see those proposals separated. >> Yeah. >> Because I think that there's merits to both >> Okay. >> and that that's my proposal. >> So, we got Okay. Jen, looks like you're going to be the tie breaker on where you want it. >> So, my thought is >> get into the parameters. We just want to

know, do we want to keep it on action or keep it information? But the rules of debate will apply there. We'll have plenty of time to discuss it on action and on information, two and two each. So, oh wait, excuse me. Yeah, on action, yeah. >> So, my thought is keeping it in action. I think having the two together was to

discuss all of it in context and figure out the best suggestion, which would be editing the motion based on the discussion and then moving forward. And I think if there's an AR or a bylaw or anything later, we could always revisit it. If there's three of us that want to just have it as an action item, I think

we could just move forward with that. >> All right, I'm for action, so it's going to stay under action and then >> Excuse me. We have a motion and a second to postpone it. Can we vote on it, please? >> Oh, excuse me. So, who motioned? >> Um >> Me, Mr. >> Dr. Anderson made a motion to postpone

it. I I set it to the next meeting. I seconded it. So, unless we're doing amendments >> To Oh, so we're talking about reordering >> Yeah, the motion >> and you're talking about pushing it to another meeting. >> No, she said to move it to the next meeting. >> I motion to move it to information reports, write a bylaw, and bring it

back in action at the next meeting. >> Yeah. >> So, not to discuss it, just to move it to information and reports. >> But, to discuss it. >> what I seconded. Yes, that's fine. >> Okay. So, we'll vote on whether this moves into information and reports. >> Perfect. You have a motion, so >> Wiersma? >> No. >> Anderson?

>> Yes. >> Barham? >> Schwartz? >> Kamrosky? >> No. >> Okay, item stays in action. Now, for a sweeping vote for approval to the agenda. >> I have one more suggestion for a change. Uh can we move general public comment to the front of the meeting? >> I would second that. >> I'd like to do that. >> Do we have any third takers?

>> That would be after student comment. >> We have two no's for Mr. Barham and Mr. Schwartz. You were talking >> by a teacher that asked when public comments was and I told him it was at the end of the meeting. >> Okay. Then >> So, mine's no. >> Okay, so that that uh that doesn't go. Um

and I'm trying to navigate all this. Yes. >> Can I be recognized? >> Yeah. Mr. Barham. >> So, when we I just want to be clear on how it's going to proceed in the when we get to the item on subcommittee goals. I'm assuming that it's one item and that the rules of debate will be two and two for the whole thing.

>> Correct. >> And not two and two for each goal. >> Okay. Okay, so then we have um the cognity which is action item two pulled and then we had one more. Number four and information. That's right. Okay, so do we have a motion and a second to approve with those amendments? >> I move. >> Uh moved by Dr. Anderson, second by Mr.

Schwartz. Lanai, would you mind calling roll? >> Wiersma? >> Yes. >> Anderson? >> Barham? >> Schwartz? >> Komrosky? >> Yes. >> Motion adopted 5-0, so the agenda's approved. And announcement of closed session items in accordance with government code section 54957.7, the board will now meet in closed session for consideration of the items listed in section E. >> We got public comments.

>> Didn't ask. Do we have comments >> We have three public comments. >> Okay. >> First up is Rob Claus followed by Edgar Diaz. Uh green means go. Uh my name's Rob Claus. I'm a teacher at Chaparral High School. Uh for consecutive years we've had negotiations linger well into the spring semester, which is a sign of dysfunction.

TBUSD lags in timely settlements and we've now reached a point in which teacher compensation is no longer competitive in our district. This is bad for morale, bad for recruitment, and bad for the district. As things stand today, a veteran teacher in Murrieta will earn about $10,000 more this school year than a veteran teacher here. That's 8,500 in

salary and 1,500 with the off-schedule payment. This discrepancy has a lifetime of consequences. >> [snorts] >> For years, our veteran teachers have been $2,000 behind Murrieta, and we were told that the structure of the high school schedule was largely responsible for this. But that compensation gap has now tripled, and we need to find out why. We're much larger than Murrieta, so we

should achieve efficiencies due to our scale, but we aren't. Yesterday at Chaparral, a colleague with 5 years of experience and an excellent teacher told me that he will be applying to Murrieta this spring because the long-term compensation is superior over there. This has happened before and will certainly happen again. Most TVUSD teachers beyond year 13 have lost 4.7% of purchasing power this year.

The 2% pay cut in July and 2.7% inflation. This is tough in an era in which affordability is a leading national discussion. The unaudited actuals in September showed an ending fund balance millions greater than what was projected in June, so we're not broke, and our reserves are robust. School Services of California always claims the sky is falling, but that

doesn't seem to be the case right now. Murrieta does not have a significantly different socioeconomic profile that would create dramatically different funding. In fact, we have a few school sites with a Murrieta address. As our enrollment has gradually decreased over the years, DO staffing has exploded. For example, for much of my career, we had one or two directors

in ESS. Now, we have enough directors to field a basketball team plus a couple reserves. Yet enrollment has decreased. You'll recall that Rancho Vista High School used to be housed at the DO. That could never happen again because we filled this facility with so much staffing. It's time to take a serious look at where our inefficiencies lie and take

steps to get things on track. Perhaps we need DOGE in TVUSD. In 2016, the board approved a large increase to the executive salary schedule in order to attract and retain the best talent. If this goal has been fulfilled, then we should have timely settlements and competitive compensation while maximizing opportunities for students and value for taxpayers. Let's work in a cooperative rather than

adversarial manner to get this done. Thank you. >> Thank you. Next up is Edgar Diaz followed by Kimberly De La Cruz. >> Turn it off. Good afternoon staff and board members. Edgar Diaz, president of Temecula Valley Educators. Uh educators made a commitment to TVUSD and the students of Temecula to be able to do what you ask. If there's a program

change, if there is a pilot, if there is responsibilities that we need to take on. And part of that commitment that the board makes is to make sure that they plan to support not only students, but also the employees that work here. At the moment, TVUSD is a race to the bottom. I mean, the literal bottom as

far as comparables to our districts around us. Employees have increased in cost as far as what they have to pay for and be able to to live in this area as Rob Claus just mentioned. Medical contributions by employees have skyrocketed. I know I came to this district because it was free for a family for medical care. Now, most of

our people are paying a thousand to six hundred to five hundred dollars to cover their family. So, in reality, when we're looking at compensation over the last couple years, it's been a pay cut for most of our people. We are the top performing district as we keep being told. We are a family, but yet we don't put together a plan

to appropriately compensate, give fair compensation to the employees of this district. A few years ago, TVUSD and every single other district received a 2% increase to the base LCAP funding formula. We had settled early. And when we went back to ask for it, they're like, "Oh, no, we're not going to we're not going to make that happen.

That's not going to be part of the table." And you know, what? Part of it, I'm okay with because that provides a district some flexibility. And we can always go back to what the COLA is there for this next or this current year. But when a district can't even put together a plan on how to provide ongoing compensation to its employees,

it becomes very difficult for employees to want to continue to work here as my colleague Rob Klass also mentioned. We will become a district that brings in younger teachers and they will go to another place to become seasoned veterans. That is not what Temecula has always said they're going to be. So, if that's the kind of district

you're looking for, please don't add more compensation to employees. Don't add to the district contribution for medical. Just let us know that we are priority zero and there's not going to be any plan to help our employees say that they are proud to work here when they have no ability to be able to support their family goals,

to live in this community, or to support their families during medical conditions. I'll have more comments on medical leave at the spotlight. >> Okay, so I just want to agree with everything the past two speakers said and I didn't prepare anything formal tonight. But when I look at um at previous years with funded COLA, there were many years where COLA came in

and we settled at a much higher percentage than Cola. So at one time this district actually cared about teachers and our well-being and our health to provide us with Cola more than what the state provided. Now we're at a point that teachers are working harder than ever and the compensation package that has not been settled for this year, it's

absurd. And if you think we're going to take anything off schedule, we need to think again because that does not help cover costs on a daily basis. As you all know, prices are rising, our medical went up and we are earning less now than we were a year ago. So please consider this as a priority with your actions

by providing us with a decent compensation package. Thank you. >> Okay, that wraps up comments. We'll now go on to close session.

I know you all met Mr. Marble and he definitely um that middle school principal came out giving everybody direction in terms of what they're supposed to do. So Mr. Marble, thank you for that. I first want to start with um an acknowledgement um in terms of thank you all for what you do for kids every single day being part of the watchd

dogss and as you all are walking in in your t-shirts, your commitment to not only this district but the students in this district. We truly appreciate um your work uh your connection with students and your connections at the school site. It makes an impact in our entire community. So, thank you. And with that, I'll introduce Mr. Marble.

Okay, awesome. All right, good evening everyone and thank you Dr. Valz for that welcome. Um, actually rather than me kicking this off, I'm going to turn it over to Mrs. Wearsma who's going to kick us off this evening. >> I'd actually like to echo the comments of Dr. VeZ and I know Mr. Marble will be sharing some things with you. First of

all, I just want to say that I'm so excited to see the Watchdog program here and highlighted tonight. As a trustee, I've advocated from the very start for this program, and I know it's really taken a group effort. So, it's wonderful to have you here. The growth is a testament to the leadership of Brian Pastor, and the incredible work of

administrators like Taran and Aaron and so many more who are devoted to this program and building it every single day. I also want to give a special shout out to a couple of people who have been on the front lines. Danny Molina, you were one of the original boots on the ground and I appreciate your work and

mentorship. Supermom Cole, you are a beautiful example of a selfless coordinator. For the endless time and the heart you give to the Abby Ranki community, I am so thankful. And finally, to all of the dads that are here, thank you for devoting your eyes, your ears, and most of all, your energy to our students because your presence on

the campuses is priceless. We are all better because you choose to serve and our students are better because they're loved and they are supported by you. So, thank you for showing up each and every day that you choose to be a part of this watchdog program. And thank you for being here tonight. We honor all of your

efforts. >> [applause] >> Thank you, Mr. Wesma. Okay. Thank you, Mrs. Wema. I'm going to now turn it over to our director of safety and security, Mr. Brian Pastor. [applause] >> Good evening, board members and executive cabinet. Before I start, I would like to um embarrass hopefully not, but if everybody that is a watchdog, a marvelous mom, a site

administrator, anybody coordinator, people that have bought pizza. I'm not going to call them out, but they're in here for the whole kickoff. Can you please just stand up? I'd love to see and feel. [applause] Thank you. I'd like to briefly highlight the importance of and the reintroduce the watchdogs program that so many people know about in TVSD but many people do

not and I want to explain how important it is when TVSD and the watchd dogss work together. What adds multiple benefits to our schools. I would also like to share my appreciation for having this program established in almost half of our schools with five new sites added over the last three months since just before December. As a reminder, the

Watchdogs program is a national initiative that focuses on increasing positive parental involvement in K- through2 schools. Through this program, parents and guardians, volunteers on campus, and many others help to supervise, assist teachers, and serve as visible positive role models for our students. The watchdogs are also an extremely poor extremely important part to bolstering physical security on the

site. As many watchdog functions support our campus security and site admin teams and their roles in creating safer schools, their impact has been significant. The presence of additional engaged adults strengthens school safety, reinforces positive behavior expectations, and deepens the connection between families and our schools. Students benefit not only from added support, but from seeing firsthand that the adults in their lives value

education and are willing to invest their time in our school community. The Watchdogs are a perfect example of strong partnerships between community members and TVUSD. And this is incredibly important for us moving forward to protect the safety of our district and our students. Students benefit not only from the added support, but from seeing the adults in the lives

care about them. This year, the district kicked off an initiative to fund the startup costs for any school that will be implementing a watchdog program. As mentioned earlier, five new sites launched their program after this district initiative was kicked off in December. To give some stats, the district currently has 111 active watchd dogs at 14 different sites. This makes up up almost half of

our schools. These gracious volunteers have donated over 2300 hours of their time just in this school year alone. By the end of the year, as these new five schools come on, I would expect us um relatively easily to hit about 3,000 hours of volunteer work from this incredible group. Looking ahead, our goal is to continue to expand

participation, increase volunteer training and engagement opportunities, and ensure the program is consistently implemented across grade levels. By growing this initiative, we can further strengthen school climate, student confidence, and overall campus support, safety, and security. I would like to offer my personal thank you and appreciation to all of our watchdog teams, supporters, coordinators, and site teams that all work together to

make this huge program such a success. Thank you to all the watchdog. [applause] Okay. Um, and as Dr. has pointed out, I did do my principal thing earlier, but I'm going to kind of do it again now. Um, so we're going to recognize six schools tonight. We have a couple of individual recognitions before that. And then when I call that school, I will

list off the top dogs for that school. If you are a watchdog at that school or a site administrator at that school, you're going to go over there. We're going to get a photo again of each one and then we'll get a group photo all together. So, first of all, we want to recognize three individual leaders who

have in their own way led the way with this program for special recognition. First, I'd like to recognize Cole Everyman [applause] and David Solenior. >> [applause] All right. Our first site we want to recognize is Veil Veil Elementary. The Veil Elementary Top Dogs are Freddy Sanchez and Timothy Davis. Veil Watchdogs, come on up. [applause] Okay, the next site we want to recognize

is French Valley Elementary. Top dogs are Trent Baskerville and Jay Patrick Strang. [applause] right, the next site we want to recognize is Alamos Elementary, Top Dogs, Bobby Moreno, and Jonno O. Davidson. [applause] Um, and I don't know the exact number, but I believe there are more than 60 watchdog dads at Alamos Elementary. [applause] Okay, next up, Abby Ranky Elementary top

dog Cole every man. All the Abby Ranky watchd dogs come on up. All right. And Isabelle Barnett Elementary top dogs, Bill Booth and Ron Larson. And our final school that we're going to recognize this evening, Tmacula Middle School Top Dog Thomas Renzy, [applause] Mr. Molina, you should join him up there, too. Okay. Before and we're going to we want

to get a p photo of all the site administrators and all the watchd dogs together up front if we can. Um I will just say one thing from a principal and a dad perspective. The great thing about watchd dogs and you guys have all experienced this when kids so thank you. All right, all watchd dogs up this way

and Jod will make it look beautiful. Okay, thank you everyone. That concludes our recognitions. Friendly reminder, I'm going to call us to order in two minutes. Can you Can you hear me? Let me see. Let me ask if he can hear me. Okay, good evening. This is open session. I'm going to call the meeting to order. Good evening and welcome to

the regular open session meeting of Tmacula Valley Unified School District. Audience, if you could please keep it down. Thank you. Valley Unified School District Board of Education on February 24, 2026 at 6 o'clock. The board has been in closed session since 4 PM. In attendance this evening, our governing board, Dr. Joseph Kamaroski, Dr. Melinda Anderson, Mrs. Jennifer Wearsma, Mr. Steven Schwarz,

Mr. Mrs. Melissa Chai, student board member and secretary of the board, Dr. Kimberly, and the executive team. And we will now have the pledge of allegiance. Now, I just want to know, will Bella and her dad come up from Bale Elementary? Yes. Thank you. Thank you, Bella. Proud of you. This is W from Veil. I >> I pledge of allegiance to the flag of

the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. And Bella, Dr. Kamaroski is gonna come shake your hand and say thank you. But we also have a gift for you that we're going to be getting to Mr. Bologona at Veil for you. So expect a little gift.

Thank you for coming up, Bella. Okay. board president comment for tonight. I am going to recognize and I have a couple of board meetings ago. It is it is tragic when we lose one of our students. We value each and every student here at TVUSD and sad to say from Susan uh H Nelson High School out of 10th grade a Landon Reed passed away.

So I want to ask everybody to silence. Uh give a moment of silence for um this young man, his family. Thank you so much. And everybody, please keep them in your prayers. That's all for president's comments. Uh, action taken in close session. Actions taken in close session must be reported to the public once close session ends. Today's close session

began at 4 p.m. The board of education took the following action in close session. I'll hand it over to Dr. Anderson, board clerk. It was moved by member Anderson and seconded by member Schwarz to deny the claim for damages for statutory purposes but approved for the reimbursement for damage to personal property for AW dated on 129 2026. The vote was 40 with

trustee Barham absent. It was moved by member Anderson and seconded by member Schwarz to ratify the approval and approve the resignation settlement agreement for classified substitute number 17881 effective February 5th, 2026. The vote was unanimous 500. It was moved by member Anderson and seconded by member Schwarz to deny the claim for damages for RA dated 116 2026.

The vote was 41 with trustee Barham absent and that's it. >> Thank you Dr. Anderson. Now we're on to recognitions announcements school related organizations. I'll introduce us uh introduce from uh TVA Edgar Diaz. Good evening board staff. uh coming to you for the second time today. Uh before you, you have representation from the northern part of the district for

schools that feed into Chaparel High School, Bella Vista, Day Middle, and all the elementarymentaries around it. This is the first group of our teachers that are coming here to ask and demand that you compensate our educators to the level that we provide services for our students. For years going on since CO, we've been asked to add on additional

responsibilities to our daily uh instructional day. whether it's keeping up in a in a digital version of our classroom, responding to parents on email on almost a hourly level uh when they're coming in. We've also had additional programs that we had to add on whether our digital digital platforms that we've had to learn to be able to

implement and they've taken it on. I mean, I came here last month to speak to you that the last time that we had to learn a large one to uh digital platforms for one-on-one, we had a lot of time to do so. While we had a whole afternoon to learn how to work through these platforms, how to communicate, how

to put things on there, how to be able to put that together so it's meaningful for students. There's been a lot of changes that have been happening and our teachers have taken that on. We've made sure that instruction at TVUSD remain top in the county. We made sure that our students have access to top experiences so that they can achieve the goals that

they've been looking for. And yet for these last four years and we've continued to engage board and staff, the district has failed to think about the educators. Our educators are now earning less with the increase in the medical plans. They're earning less compared to other nearby districts. uh as large as like a four or five percent gap just in the

last three years. I mentioned in my four o'clock comments that we are a race to the bottom. We are a race to the bottom in attracting our educators to come here because we're going to turn into a district that turns out our uh new educators as they come here to get experience and then leave us where they

can go earn more. As a top performing district, as a district that requires and expects our students and educators and administrators to do well, we expect that this team put together a solid plan every year to attract and retain the top educators in the valley. That does not happen by waiting for compensation or our contract to be

settled in March, April, or May. That does not happen when we're demanding that our classified employees are putting together a um retro package that has to go back and do a lot more work for them. We do it by thinking ahead of time. We do it by recognizing that a contract's about to expire and that there is a plan in place that we can

come to and we can agree on early on before the contract expires. We demand that our how can you actually demand that educators or students are the best out there if we are leaving our educators behind. We as TVA would like to make a >> thank you [applause] left off the script. >> Good evening. Can you hear me?

Sorry, I'm I'm much bigger in person. So, um, hi. Um, I'm Kevin Paly. I'm the new administrator for the CSEA chapter 538. Uh I've already set up some meetings with some of the staff here and look forward to meeting with you. I don't have any prepared remarks. Um but just getting out that they're meeting everybody. Uh you guys have a lot of

really good uh staff here. Um, and so as I'm learning uh who's where and who's who, uh, I know that uh somewhere down the road, obviously we'll we always uh agree to disagree. Uh, but I know that there's a happy middle ground uh when it comes to wages and health benefits. Um, for those that don't know, uh, I

represent classified uh, school employees as well as other school employees uh through the Kalpers board. Uh so all the way up to the northern uh tips of California to the southern tips of California. Uh and it's really about making sure that uh that individual that retires with a $600 pension that they can take care of their family in the

long run. And that's what I'm looking to to make sure that we can do here in Tmacula as well is make sure that the people that we hire can continue to take care of their families. So thank you. >> Thank you. >> [applause] >> We are next on action item in adoption of the revised board bylaw 9323.7

parliamentary procedures and we have one public comment [clears throat] >> excuse me excuse me >> student comments do we have any student comments tonight student comments I I thought but I Yeah, I skip that part and on to the public comment for the action item. >> Good evening. Um u I am going to go back to November 18th when this language was

added on the recommendation of Mr. Dedrich uh the board's legal council uh according to Dr. Anderson and it was voted in unanimously and formally enshrined in the governing bylaws. This is not a guideline. It is binding governance governance language that now controls how the board deliberates. That is why this particular change that you're trying to make warrants very

serious concern. Um under Robert's rules of orders limiting debate uh is a restriction of members fundamental rights. It requires a motion, a second and two/3s vote of the body. That safeguard exists to protect minority viewpoints and ensure de debate limits are imposed by the assembly, not unilaterally by the chair. This bylaw instead grants the board president the

sole authority to reduce debate to one minute per member, one time per item based on subjective conditions such as whether the meeting runs past 10 p.m. or whether the president believes business will not be completed in a reasonable time frame. Because there have already been concerns about how meetings are run. Giving one person this authority is especially troubling. I want to share

the same quote that I used previously when the board considered giving president the unilateral authority to limit public speaking time. You only need power when you want to do something harmful. For everything else, love is enough. If there's a genuine reason, I don't see why agreement could not be reached with colleagues. I urge all board members to consider this item

carefully before giving up your fundamental right to deliberate, which you were elected to do. This clause also raises practical concerns. If all items are placed on the agenda, the 10pm trigger could predictably limit debate on controversial topics. Since the board currently operates under Robert rules, any limits on debate require a twothirds vote. Ignoring that standard while enforcing limits on uh me and uh two/3s

rule means four out of five by the way and [snorts] ignoring that standard while enforcing limits on members deliberation would be classic case of rules for thee not for me. It undermines the very purpose of having the bylaw. So why go ahead and edit them if you're not going to follow them anyways. If efficiency is the goal then you should

allow reduced debate limits at the time when it is needed and take a vote at that point of time. Thank you. >> [applause] >> Okay, I just want to highlight the paragraph in the beginning. If you could pull this up, Len, please. Um, the blue highlighted paragraph, the board recognizes Robert's rules of order as adopted general parliamentary

guidelines, not law. These guidelines are applied at board president's at the board president's uh discretion when our bylaws are silent and do not conflict with the Brown Act, the education code or board policy. All trustees retain full participation in voting rights. Parliamentary guidelines simply structure how discussion occurs so that the board conduct its business sufficiently. So, I've just read off

that part and I'm going to make the motion in a minute here and then I'm going to go to page nine and asked to under board member final comments. >> Uh, same document if you just scroll down a little bit. >> Oh, okay. Well, I'll read it out. Um, under the under the current uh current bylaw 9223.7,

there is a section that says board member final comments. And I would like to strike out in order of seniority and add in voting order. So those two amendments are what I'm going to motion and second for. And I believe Dr. Anderson is going to pull the pink highlights that were agendaized. So, I'll let her speak, but I'm going to

um at least make a motion in a second to adopt the changes that I have striking the pink language with Dr. Anderson's consent. >> I'll second so we can open for discussion. >> Okay. So, we have a motion and a second. Now, we're open for discussion and we can go in voting order. I'm done presenting, but those are the only u

>> um additional changes that I'd like. Um, let's keep it let's keep it in. Um, yeah, you can go first since you made amendments. >> That's why I was going to say since since I made amendments, um, can I have a minute to explain? So, I made amendments because I'm just I think we're all looking for a way to have more

um, productive meetings. So, this was something I came up with another spo special rule of order, but I'm okay striking all of this if the board wants to. But there Lene I did email you one sentence that I would replace it with instead of having the conditional reduction of time. The only sentence I would want would go

underneath Dr. Komarosk's blue and you can um it's I just barely emailed it to you one second ago. Oh, >> and it says the board president's procedural rulings shall stand unless overruled by the majority v vote of the board. And that's all I wanted to say. So, um, but if you open the email, there's nothing else there that would be

>> that's that's what I want to know. >> So, we have a motion and a second on the floor. We have to vote on that first before you bring an additional edit because we already have a motion to second without that sentence. >> So it's conditional. >> Yeah, we have a motion on a four. So okay, if you're done with your time,

I'll let the other board members speak and then we'll take it to a vote and see if we need >> Could you repeat the motion, please? The motion in the second is to adopt all the highlighted blue language in that paragraph in front of you. You see that, Mr. Schwarz? And it's on the uh it's on the screen in

front of you outside of your own. >> I see it on my computer. >> Yeah. And then when you go down to board member final comments, striking out in order of seniority and replacing it with in voting order. and eliminating >> eliminating. >> Okay. >> Okay. Uh do you want to comment or Mr. Bar? Okay. Mr. >> I do want to comment.

>> Um >> we have rules of debate on this two and two minutes like you had. No, I'm presenting. No, I'm presenting. You have two and then two. >> Okay. I would I have one question. I'd like to know who wrote the uh blue who wrote the blue >> uh changes to the bylaw. Just simple >> DeMarco.

>> Okay, that's what I thought. So, uh here's my comment. >> It was run by legal. >> Could I have my time back, please? Because I didn't I didn't ask the second question if it was run by legal. >> You may not have your time back. I'm specifying the question you answered. In fact, it was almost word for word from

Demarco to answer your question very specifically. >> Uh I want to read bylaw 9200. Um the board of trustees recognizes that the board is the unit of authority over the district that a board member has no individual authority. What this is doing, it is giving one board member individual authority over running the meetings which is totally illegal and

unconstitutional. I also want to say Robert's rules of order are being used to selectively silence certain members. It ignores Robert's rules of order when it protects minority rights. It rides established parliamentary rights authority. It enforces rules inconsistently. And I believe it it um is illegal under the first amendment equal protection clause, the Brown Act fairness violation, and the potential

abuse of discretion. This is a move to consolidate authority in one person on this school board, and I am vehemently opposed to it. And if I have to, I will take legal action. I've already spoken to my attorney. If I have to, I will take legal action if this is adopted. >> So, a point of clarity. Are you

threatening to sue the board? >> I am not th I'm threatening to sue you, not the board. >> Oh, I'm glad you got that on record. Oh, okay. Threatening to sue me personally. Get it. Just get it. >> Point of order. Point of order. We're out. Everyone's out of order. >> All right. No, we're not actually. Mr.

Mr. Barham, do you want to speak or Mrs. Worma? This is the first round of two minutes. So looking at the blue language guidelines not law language is being weaponized. How? By emphasizing that Robert's rules are only adopted general parliamentary guidelines not law. The president implicitly downgrades them from authoritative rules of order to optional suggestions which invite

selective enforcement and personal interpretation. discretion is vested in a single person. The statement says these guidelines are applied at the board president's discretion when the bylaws are silent that locates control over procedure in one individual rather than in the collectively adopted parliamentary authority procedure as something the president uses rather than something that constrains the president. There is

no clear standard for how discretion is exercised. The statement does not require the president to apply Robert's rules consistently, to follow any written supplemental rules, or to defer to a parliamentarian. It simply states that he applies them at his discretion. That allows the president to invoke Robert's rules when it benefits his preferred outcome and ignore them when

they do not, while still claiming to be following board policy. procedure becomes outcomed driven rather than rights driven. How parliamentary procedure especially Robert's rules is designed to protect the rights of the majority the minority individual members and absent members and to ensure an orderly fair process. When the president reserves the right to decide when and how these rules apply, the protections

they offer to other members and to the public become contingent on his personal judgment rather than guaranteed by adopted rules. We're going back to 2023, folks. This is this is how it is and this is what happened. >> Thank you, Mrs. Worsw. So I'd like to make a statement that when Dr. Kamroski checks with legal counsel, none of them counsel Dr. Kamaroski as an

individual. It is always the entirety of the board. That is their job. So the narrative that we're hearing right now is their personal perspective and that's fine. But I trust what legal counsel has shared and with the pink being removed with the blue as written, I'm okay with that. I do want to say that a constituent reached out and had this to

say which I'll share with the audience. She watched the last meeting and said at 3 hours and 27 minutes of your last 6-hour 32minute meeting, here were the interruptions. Jen 1, Dr. K 1, Melinda 4, Emil has 14, Mr. Schwarz has 13. Dr. K's interruptions were those where he tried to keep the meeting on track and I

don't count them. So again, I would like to reiterate, we are going to trust the council reviewed this. >> Order in the audience, please. Thank you. >> We're going to trust the council reviewed this and I'm good to move forward. Thank you, Miss Worma. Do we have any second round comments? >> Oh, yes. Um, >> okay, Dr. Anderson order.

>> So, real quick, I I do want mine conditional. So, if Len could just strike the pink to see how it looks, and I will vote for the blue if we can add the one sentence that the board president's procedural rulings shall stand unless overruled by a majority vote of the board. um that still gives the board consensus and the power still

in the majority. And lastly, I really am a fan of Robert's rules, but for months and months, I struggled as board president um to manage the meeting, even at times leaving the back and asking council, what do I do with willful disruption. There was a time they even said to remove a board member and um as a as a member of the public I didn't

want to do that but we really need to try something else because these meetings the willful disruption and I think the sabotage of the meetings it it's too much. So if this is I'm I'm willing to give this a chance because we can always bring it back and change it if it doesn't work. But um I think I

agree like we went until midnight last time because of willful disruption and kind of abuse of the um parliamentary procedures. So I I think if if you're okay lumping the motion into one motion, the board president's procedural ruling shall stand unless overruled by a majority vote. >> I will amend the motion right now. Do I have a second to include that exact

language? >> Thank you. I will second. Seconded by Mrs. Wears. >> Okay. Then I'm done speaking. >> Okay. We have a motion, a second on the table. Um, we're done speaking. Second round of comments. >> Yes. Um, I would move to replace the blue language with the following. The board adopts Robert rules of order, newly revised 12th edition, as its

parliamentary authority. When board bylaws are silent, Robert's rules shall govern, provided they do not conflict with state or federal law. the presiding officer's procedural rulings are subject to appeal by the board. I'd also like to add um since uh one since one of our attorneys uh recognize this language, I did not have the ability to speak to

that attorney to ask him what his reasoning was. It seems like the attorney and the board president spoke about it. That's great, but not the rest of us. the rest of us did not have the opportunity to speak with the board attorney. So if the board attorney if the president's communicating with council while other trustees are denied

access that creates unequal governance. I'm requesting that any policy governing contact with legal counsel be applied equally to all trustees so we can all talk to the attorney, not just a board member. Our bylaws state that when you speak to the attorney, we're supposed to get a readout of what was said and we have we did not get that on this. I see

it on the paper. I did not have an attorney uh opportunity to speak to Mr. Dedricch. And nothing in the bylaws can override statutory obligations of the Brown Act. And again, I go back to 9200. No board member has more authority than other board members. And this is giving the board president authority over everyone else. And I think it is wrong.

And as I said, I have my own attorney researching it. And if I have to, I will bring suit if to override it if it is passed. I'm sorry. It's illegal. As far as I'm concerned, I am not interested in that one attorney's opinion. Thank you. >> Thank you, Mr. Schwarz. [applause] and a point a point of order. You cannot

amend the motion. Only I can cuz I brought it forward. So the motion in the second still stands. Mr. Barham, do you want to finish your second round of comments before we vote? I >> will. And I I want to talk about just for a second the willful violations. The willful violations are in response to in our bylaws, we adopted Robert's rules as

our formal uh form of governance. And when I was objecting, it was because we were breaking those rules. And that's why those objections occurred because I'm trying to myself follow what the bylaw says um that we need to follow Robert's rules of order. Um but we weren't doing that because Dr. Kamroski was implementing his own rules like he did

back in 2023 which got us sued many many times. And you know that's just part of the issue here. Every board follows Robert's rules of order. Every board that I know. And when you don't taken together, what do you get? A personalized ad hoc procedural regime. And this structure empowers the president to shape when members can speak, how motions are recognized, which

points of order are sustained, and how strictly time and debate times are enforced. All according to his personal preferences rather than a neutral, consistently applied parliamentary authority, which he refuses to learn. At the last meeting, I asked him, I said, "Let's learn together." Because we have chaos at every meeting going back to 2023 when he was president, when he was first elected,

when Dr. Anderson became president, when Mrs. Wearsma was the presiding officer. All because they refused to learn Robert's rules of order. If we learn Robert's rules of order, we're going to have great meetings here. It's not about the disagreements, it's about the rules. >> Thank you. Your time's over. And I'm going to do a point of order [applause]

before we take this to vote. This is for the audience. There were many false statements made. California ed code 35164 from Huff General Legal Council stated in this state's majority vote. So, California Ed Code trumps parliamentary debate, Robert's rules of orders, and our own bylaw. So, you have been corrected. Len, would you mind taking us to vote? Where's my

>> You're out of order, doctor. >> No, I'm not. And I've cleared a point of order. You are actually not following California and you're misinforming. >> Thank you. We're going to take this to vote. >> Did Jen have any comments? >> We did. We finish your second round? I thought we did. >> Okay, second round. >> The only final comment I would offer is

a lot of this conversation is pretty disingenuous. The former board majority changed how we were operating with legal. I didn't talk to a lawyer for a year. That was fine. The rules changed. Again, Dr. Kamroski ran this through the proper protocol, the proper channels. The board majority does have a decision to stick to Robert's rules, offer flexibility. The president does lead.

This is going to be done correctly. We don't have to uh focus on what I believe is a campaign narrative formulating to get through this. It's pretty simple, and I think we can move forward the right way, and I'm confident Dr. for Kamroski will lead us. >> Thank you, Mrs. Whisma. Len, would you mind calling role >> yes Anderson?

>> Yes. Barham, >> no. >> Schwarz, >> I don't know. I might have to take a minute to call someone to ask them how I should vote. >> Be respectful, Mr. Schwarz. >> I am being respectful. >> You see what I mean? Do you see what I mean? >> Please be respectful of what point of order. Mr. Schwarz, your off.

>> Could you please not >> You're not supposed to address the audience. Please vote. Mr. Could you please not? He's out of He's trying to You're actually out of order. Please vote. >> Uh, no. >> Kamaroski. >> Yes. Motion adopted. 3 to2. >> We're on the consent calendar. All matters listed on the consent calendar are considered routine and will be

enacted by one vote. There is no discussion of consent calendar items unless members of the governing board or staff request that specific items be removed from the consent calendar for separate action. Before I take a take a sweeping vote, I'm going to ask if we have comments. >> We do. >> And we do. >> Two. >> Two comments.

And let's hear the comments for uh what's the first item on Lenate? >> The comments. >> Both of them are on number two. >> Okay. So we can we can hear both comments on item two and then we'll do the votes. >> Okay. First up is Chelsea followed by Jamie. >> Good evening board members and superintendent Dr. Fez. My name is

Chelsea Click and I'm speaking on behalf of the preschool speech language pathologists in our district. We are proud to serve at the first point of contact for many of our families entering our school system. We guide parents through the IEP process, explain preschool uh service options, and connect families with district and community resources. Early childhood is not simply younger

elementary. Three-year-olds uh require play-based intervention, flexible scheduling um around family availability, developmentally appropriate materials, and close coordination with care coordination with caregivers. These are foundational to effective early intervention. We were recently informed this past week that beginning next school year, preschool drop-in speech services will be provided at each student's school of residence by TK through 5 SLPs rather than by preschool

SLPs at designated Alamos and Jackson sites. Although this proposed change was discussed at a preschool staff meeting, it was presented as a decision under consideration rather than a collaborative discussion. Significant concerns were raised, including scheduling challenges, materials, and furniture needs, bathroom supervision, and unpredictable case load growth as students turn three throughout the year. These are the same concerns that led to

this model being discontinued in the past. However, there has been no collaboration with our team about how these hurdles will be resolved. Additionally, many preschool SLPs anticipate reassignment next year. Yet there has been no acknowledgement of how this will impact staff roles or placements. Professional respect requires transparency and meaningful collaboration when decisions significantly affect both services and

personnel. We are not opposed to change. We are asking to be included in designing solutions that are sustainable and developmentally appropriate for our youngest learners. Thank you for your time. Thank you. [applause] Good evening, members of the board. My name is Jamie Styles. I'm a speech pathologist assigned to Red Hawk Elementary School. Red Hawk is an exceptional elementary school, and I'm

very committed to my site and to the students and families I serve. I'm also committed to all the students in this district, especially those with speech and language disorders. On February 20th, elementary school SLPs received an email stating that beginning in 2026 2027, preschool drop-in services will move from a centralized preschool from the centralized preschool sites of

Alamos Preschool and Jackson Preschool to the students home elementary schools. The email acknowledged that preschool students have unique developmental um needs and scheduling needs, but it also stated preschoolers can be grouped with TK students. The email did not outline what meaningful support would look like for elementary SLPs absorbing these additional responsibilities. This is my 26th school year as an educational

SLP. I've worked across all the settings that an educational SLP can work in in multiple districts including San Diego Unified, the Santa Barbara County Office of Education, and since 2015, TVOSD. I also previously served as a preschool only SLP within this district and worked under the established preschool case load cap of 40 through California ed code. Based on that valuable and

rewarding experience, this change does not make sense to me or to any of my former preschool colleagues such as Chelsea Click that just spoke. Why would we change preschool programs that have been effectively serving our most vulnerable students? I would like to focus on three concerns. Number one, the developmentally the developmental appropriateness of the shift. two, the

workload and compliance impact, and three, long-term outcomes. First, as far as developmentally, developmental appropriateness, three-year-olds are at the very edge of toddlerhood developmentally. Their needs look very different from elementary age students. They require intensive support with regulation, separation anxiety, toileting, and transitions. They require developmentally appropriate environments, including materials, furniture, and of course, restroom access. Grouping a newly turned

three-year-old with a TK student that is already five creates a significant developmental gap. A two-year age difference at that stage of development is substantial and limits effective therapy for both students or often my groups are four, sometimes five, even occasionally six. Second, workload and compliance realities. Each preschool student requires DRDP assessments twice per year, transition paperwork, and

mandatory spring transition meetings. Preschool assessments occur year round as children turn three in our district, meaning students would be added to TK through 5 SLP schedules continuously throughout the school year. Those responsibilities include case management that slippers cannot um that those case load management responsibilities cannot be delegated to our slippas. This initiative is not simply adding a few

students to our case loads. It is a significant increase in IEP compliance duties, schedulually complex scheduling complexity and intensive family support that differs greatly from the TK through5 service model. In closing, this initiative does not simply shift students. It shifts service quality, compliance demands, and developmental integrity. I became an SLP because I care deeply about providing high

quality. [applause] Thank you. Before we get to consent, I just want to give a shout out to the sign language interpreter in the back. Thank you so much for what you're doing with the rest of the crowd back there. Really appreciate you. Okay, we're on consent calendar. Do we have a motion, a second to approve items 1 through 14?

>> We have we have something to pull. >> Does anybody want to? Nobody pulled that. Nobody said that they wanted to pull anything at the beginning of the agenda approval. So I was in the I was >> he was he was ill. >> Okay. What what item would you like to prove? Uh pull >> warrant list. >> Warrant list.

>> Okay. So item three. Anything else? Uh Mr. Schwarz. Anything else? >> Okay. So I'll I'll call >> him. >> Call for a motion and a second to uh approve one and two and then four through 14. Do I have a second or a motion in a second? >> Moved. >> Moved by Dr. Anderson. Second. >> Second by Mrs. Worsma.

>> Len, would you mind calling role? >> Woresma. >> Yes. >> Anderson. >> Yes. Barham. >> Schwarz. >> No. >> Kamaroski. >> Yes. >> Melissa, our student board member. >> Thank you. >> Motion adopted 4 to one. Thank you, Len. And then Mr. Barham, I'll give you the floor for item three, warrant list. >> Thank you. So, I asked you in an email,

Dr. Kamaraskki. Um, and I appreciate your response um, regarding uh, the legal invoice from AALRO for $15,000. Um, there was an item, a line item for $1,340 that Mr. DeMarco worked on that said, um, mental health and gender [snorts] identity. And I asked you the question, how does mental health and gender identity at this >> point of order? Is this privileged

information? Because I think that those >> this is not privileged information. >> We'll stop your time, Mr. Barham. We're not going to >> Can you just >> We'll ask the superintendent. >> And just to be safe on this, I think we know what you're referencing. If you could go ahead and just maybe not not give the information that was on the

invoice, but go ahead and ask your question, I think that would help. Some of that we have we typically have to redact because it could be privileged information. >> There's no redaction. >> No, no, that wasn't redacted for the board because the board has access to that information. >> Can you can you is my time stopped? >> Yes.

>> Okay. Dr. Vez, so I attempted to execute my oversight responsibilities with Dr. Kamroski >> start your time just because you're >> outside of the deis and I did not get the response on that line item. So I feel like this is an open session item. This is not some this is something that I can speak to. What was the end

result in the policy formation in terms of that line item that said research mental health and gender identity? >> Point of order. I think this information we should run it by legal before we do this because it has to do with bargaining as well. >> No, it does not. >> Okay. Thank you, Dr. >> Asking the question which I have a right

to do in my oversight responsibilities. It's research mental health and gender identity. It's a simple question. What was the end result in the policy formation? >> To be clear, we can get back to you with you. There was a shift in the power from board president to superintendent. I don't believe the charge fell under our watch for Dr. Vez and myself. And so

there is there is >> I understand. >> We we actually don't know the answer. We can get back to you. >> Okay. I understand. But I I did ask you in the email if you if you read it to confer with your predecessor. Okay. because I understand the transition. I get that. But I asked you to confer with

your predecessor. I have a right to exercise my oversight responsibilities here for the public and to ensure that the taxpayer dollars are spent wisely and efficiently. And I'm just not sure. Like I said, there was an item on there. What's the end result in policy formation? >> Can we bring it back? >> Yeah, that's fine. But there's more to

it than that as well on that line item. >> There's more. So, for transparency sake, um, why don't you make a motion? We'll see if we get a second to bring that item back and then we'll clarify. >> Okay. So, but but I want to finish because we've talked here. I get that and I will make a motion, but there were

other items on that line item that I don't I think we can talk about. >> Your time's expired, Emil. So, how I mean, how how long do you want to talk for on the item? We're going to bring it back. >> I just No, no, no. There was there was there was two line two separate issues on that one line item. Okay. Okay. So, I

would like to to I'd like to talk about the other line item. >> What what we're going to do what we're going to do is have this item brought back. You can clarify all your questions to the superintendent and myself and we can address those. >> Okay. >> Fair enough. >> Okay. So, motion in a second to bring

the item back. Do we have a motion in a second? in its entirety. >> in its entirety. >> Moved. >> Moved by Mr. Schwarz. Second. >> Second by Mr. Barham. Lenny, would you mind calling role? >> Where's >> Yes. Anderson. >> Can I ask a clarifying question? >> It's just to bring this matter back. The entire >> open session. In open session

>> with no privileged information. >> With no privileged information. Yes. With no privileged information. >> You get it. You get it with the information. >> Yeah. Yes. >> Barham. >> Yes. Schwarz, >> yes. >> Kamaroski, >> yes. Motion adopted. 5 Z. >> Thank you. >> Ask Melissa. >> Sorry, student board member. >> Yes. >> I'm so sorry, Melissa.

So out um before I get to action items out of respect for the governance structure and for the staff who support this work, I want to remind everybody, especially the governing board, that questions during this meeting should be directed through the superintendent, Dr. Veles. We ask that members of the board refrain from calling on individual staff members or assistant superintendents

from the audience. When additional clarification is needed, the superintendent herself will invite the appropriate staff member to respond and that's up to the discretion of Dr. VeZ. This approach ensures clarity, consistency, and fairness for all involved. So to be clear, we are not instructing district employees. We will ask Dr. Vez, do you mind if we call upon

such and such person? So, I just want to make that clear. Action item O, we're on new textbook adoption. Amplify Desmos Middle School and High School. Unless there's discussion, I'll call for a motion in a second. >> Moved. >> Moved by Mr. Schwarz. >> Second. >> Seconded by Mr. Barham. >> No, no presentation. And I have no

discussion other than I've seen this curriculum and secondary curriculum. I approve. So, if we have no discussion, we could do >> Yes. A vote. >> Call the vote. Yes, this is a new textbook adoption. Amplify Desmos Middle School and High School. >> One second. >> She's going to vote. >> Just clarifying this with Dr. VZ. >> Correct. Okay. Okay. We're gonna back

up. Going back to the warrant list. Only the item that we voted on would be pushed. We have to approve the rest of the warrant list. >> Do I have a motion and a second? >> Moved. >> Moved by Dr. Anderson. Thank you for clarifying, Dr. Les. >> We have a motion. Do we have a second? I'll second it. Len, would you mind

calling roll? >> Sure. Wearsma? >> Yes. >> Anderson? >> Barham? >> Schwarz? >> No. >> Kamaroski? >> Yes. Motion adopted for >> Melissa. student. >> Excuse me. >> Yes, >> she's used to it because I skipped her all the time. >> Motion adopted port to one. Okay, now we're back to the action item. I'm going to clarify a question with Dr. Veles.

>> Okay. I I didn't think somebody was presenting on this. I thought it was a different item. Papa, Mrs. Emily Par is presenting. >> Yep. >> Right. >> Correct. >> Okay. Welcome up. >> I believe I saw Emily in the audience. >> She was here. >> She was. Oh, there. There you go. >> I'm sorry. >> No, they're they're at the end of the

meeting. >> There's one, but there's one, Miss Par. >> Oh, do we want to do public? You know what? Okay, clarify. Yes, we we'll do the public comment first. >> I'm so sorry. We're gonna get this. We're gonna Dr. Malone, >> I didn't think we >> I know. It's okay. We're good. >> Um, good morning or good evening. Sorry,

it's not morning anymore. Been here a while. Um, as the uh TVUSD K12 math specialist, I would like to formally just thank the whole TVUSD community for their participation in this pilot for the TVUSD secondary math adoption for our alignment to the 2023 California math framework. Uh first of all, thanks to our pilot committee who spent many

hours learning about the framework, evaluating 17 curriculum options, choosing two to pilot, and then using new materials for students with not for nine weeks, and then landing on a consensus recommendation for the amplified materials for math 6 through algebra 2. Also, thank you to our parent curriculum advisory committee for attending meetings after school hours, learning about the framework, and

providing guidance on how best to engage with our community. Um, thank you to our teachers, administration, and staff for all your work, questions, and support that led to a successful pilot process. And thank you to our students and parents for your engagement with the pilot throughout and for your feedback. We received over 3,500 student evaluations and 200 parent evaluations

that were very honest. Um, and yes, I did read most of them. I will say, uh, thank you to everyone who worked on any part of this pilot. We could have not not gotten to this day and to this point without your work. And I want to recognize that it is not easy work, but it is necessarily rigorous work in order

to come to the consensus that our team did finally reach. Um, and thank you so that we can have materials to help our teachers learn about the changes in the framework in which to align their instruction for the best mathematics that we can give our kids. So, thank you TVUSD community. Thank you, Dr. Malone. [applause] >> All yours.

>> Is there is there a clicker or Len, are you my clicker? >> Yeah, just >> Okay, perfect. All right. Good evening. Thank you so much for the opportunity to present on behalf of our secondary math pilot team. Um, we're just going to go over the process really quickly. I know so many of you have been involved in

this process with us since last spring. Um, in short, we did go through a rigorous 10-step process. Uh, Dr. Kamaskki, you'll recognize this. You and I had an opportunity to serve on a subcommittee four years ago alongside Mrs. Deas and Mr. Bowg um to really formalize our process when it came to putting together a major adoption. And

so, the result of that subcommittee produced this document that you see in front of you. All that to be said, we are in step nine of 10 tonight, which is my opportunity now to present to you the recommendation made by our pilot committee. And sorry to interrupt. I just want to give out a shout out to uh

previous trustee Danny Gonzalez. He was on that with me. >> Yes. Thank you. Um I actually had the opportunity to join this team this year, but in the spring, our pilot team began their work and they made a commitment um as a pilot team and they wrote their mission and vision. I just want to highlight the fact that about a third of

our secondary math teachers were involved in this process. So, we did get to hear from several of our teachers across the district when making a decision for all of our students. All right. As Dr. Malone mentioned, uh it was a very substantial process. Uh we reviewed all publishers available through California. We narrowed them down from 16 to 12 to 6 to two and we

engaged in two rounds of pilots with our curriculum, nine weeks each. We then brought the pilot teams back together and we made a decision on which curriculum to move forward with. I do also want to recognize the incredible work of this parent curriculum advisory committee. Again, this was another outcome of some subcommittee work we that we did four

years ago. We really made a commitment in TVSD to be very transparent with our parent community, which we've always been, but we thought rather than involve the parents as the pilot goes through the end, we want them to be with us on day one. So, this parent committee was incredible. Uh we got to engage with them through the new math framework. We

had some many publishers fairs with them. They gave us really valuable input throughout the process from a parent perspective. Um and their work was really instrumental in this process. Briefly, I just want to share with you the data. Um, in short, green is good. So, you can see that Amplify was rated higher in middle school across the

board. Uh, we also had over a 100 parent evaluations of the Amplify materials as well as over 2,000 student evaluations. The data looks similar on the next slide, Len for our high school data review. Again, Amplify was rated higher across the board than Imagine Learning for teachers, parents, and students. We had over a par 100 parent evaluations at

the high school level and over a thousand student evaluations on the two curriculums for our evaluation. We can see here this is our decision day. It's very formal. Uh we have posters up. We ask teachers to place dots for us. Really giving us some important feedback on where we're moving in the next direction. So you can see

that not only were we evaluating the two curriculums that we piloted in the classrooms, but we also really wanted to understand if a third curriculum was needed so that we were really selecting the best instructional materials for our students. Just one point of comments on that. Do we need a third curriculum to pilot from our middle school? You'll see

that there were several yeses in that column. Anecdotally, we pulled the teachers aside and just wanted to learn a little bit more about why they felt it was important to look at a third curriculum. And it was simply the fact that as seventh grade teachers, which is primarily where those black dots came from, seventh grade teachers were just

having a little bit harder of a time because the curriculum assumed that they had some prerequisite skills from sixth grade. But our sixth grade students were not metriculating to seventh grade with those skills. So it was a little bit harder to implement a curriculum without the students having the background knowledge in that curriculum. It wasn't necessarily the curriculum itself.

You'll see a similar consensus style that we used for high school. High school was a clear winner with Amplify. Um, and they really didn't feel that we needed to look at a third curriculum. We did have public displays at all of our secondary sites as well as up here at the district office. These materials have been on display all school year

long for our parents and community to come in and review. We also added that QR code for them so that after they reviewed the materials, they had the opportunity to provide us feedback. We also hosted two spring community events. Our parent curriculum advisory committee advised us to host one central in-person event which we hosted here at the district office as well as a virtual

event so that more parents had the opportunity to attend. Uh we didn't quite get the attendance we were hoping for, but um those parents who were able to join us and we even had some middle school students join us for the virtual opportunity really provided wonderful input and feedback for us and they had really wonderful questions to ask of our

amplified team partners pending board approval. We do have some uh upcoming trainings for our teachers. We learned last year when we implemented the bridges in the elementary sites that our teachers really appreciated the opportunity to get the training before the new school year begins. Um, our secondary teachers also provided us with feedback saying, you know, we love being

in our classrooms and it's hard for us to be out of our classrooms. So, while we would love the training, we would also love to not miss a day with our students, which is why you'll see our first training date is actually scheduled during spring break. Our teachers are coming in on one of their day offs. we will compensate them for

their time. Um, but about half of our teachers took us up on that offering because they really appreciate the opportunity to not be out of their classroom more than needed. We have a second training date for May 28th for those who can't join us. Um, over hires will be providing an opportunity for them to be trained in August on the new

curriculum. Amplified Desmos also provides strengthened training. So they come in a few months after we've started implementing the new curriculum. So they can come alongside and answer any questions as teachers get a little bit more into the curriculum. They also offer some coaching sessions for all of our math specialists. They come to the site. They walk classrooms with us. They

really want to make sure that we have a solid understanding of how to imple implement their curriculum. And that's it. So thank you. Thank you. Mrs. Whisma um wants some uh questions. I'll let her go first. Two rounds of two rounds for the other board members. >> Two minutes. Sorry. Yeah. >> So, first of all, thank you Mrs. Par and

Mr. Malone for sharing this information with us. I actually got to sit on the parent curriculum committee and uh Emily will tell you that I at times wanted to do things my old-fashioned traditional way and there's nothing wrong with that. Let me tell you, math is interesting and to see some of these new ideas. I had to

really listen and glean from that. Um Christie, I know I appreciate you. I don't know if you're here, but we had a phone call and I asked you about your daughter and we talked about the material and how she was absorbing it. really appreciated that. So, I just want to thank you. I really enjoyed talking to the parents within the committee. On

the flip side, I do have some questions because I know this is definitely highly respected. It's a trendy material. Many like myself might prefer the traditional merit-based direct instruction math, right? You're kind of dealing with um the older people looking at some of the newer math. And I do have my questions about the California framework. um they

they focus on the big picture and equity and kind of a discovery first approach which isn't wrong but I think my question has been all the way along and I know Dr. Z and I have had many conversations is how are we going to be sure that there's enough procedural solving, right? There's procedural fluency concerns for me and where that

takes me is can you tell us based on the data, the surveys, which I would still love to see by the way if if the board can look at that. Um, how would you answer that? Because this is highly screen dependent. Uh I think a lot of us would wish for more pencil and paper and maybe there's a combination and you can

correct me on that but what would you say about the procedural fluency concerns and then do you see any supplemental material that might need to come alongside because what I pulled off um as I was looking through this is something like the art of problem solving delta math that focuses almost entirely on the fluency. So tell me how

we can balance this because as kids tried to get into UCSD, they were telling us they don't know basic math. So this is a big deal. >> Sorry. >> No, it's okay. If I can just address the fluency piece, um because I think we think of fluency as speed and automaticity, but when we think about fluency in math, we really want flexible

thinking and students to have the ability to apply different strategies to solve a problem. So, I think when we were growing up, fluency was time tests around the world. Um, kind of high stakes things, but we really don't want kids just to know the answer right off the top of their heads. I mean, in some cases, we do. They still need to know

their fact fluency and pro procedural fluency, and there's certainly opportunities embedded throughout, but we also want students to truly understand the math that they're engaging with because a lot of our a lot of times our students go straight to the abstract. They're really good at applying steps and procedures to get the right answer. But math isn't just about

getting the right answer. It's about understanding how to solve a problem and there's a journey in that and it's not always fast and sometimes it's a little messy and we're okay with that. So I think Mr. Bow has spoken to our TVs TVSD data in the past and highlighted that we do well in procedural fluency. Our kids

do well on that portion of the state testing. It's there's opportunity for us to grow when it comes to number sense and reasoning and in our performance tasks where kids actually have to explain their thinking and reason with math. And so that's the area that we're trying to grow and bolster but not in lie of still practicing that procedural

fluency. So it's really finding the balance of both but giving students opportunities to think about things in different ways. So um when it comes to utilizing supplemental resources um it is not something that we are recommending at this time. Um we really want our students to engage deeply and meaningfully with the adopted curriculum that we have before we utilize any

supplemental resources. This is something that we do really in the first year of implementation of any curriculum. We ask our teachers to follow it with integrity um to truly understand the instructional resources that they're utilizing with students. At the end of that first year is when we come back together as a team and say, is there anything that we need to adjust in

the second year now that we know better? But to bring in supplemental resources without having the opportunity to fully implement the new curriculum would be hard for us to do. >> Thank you. Uh Mr. Schwarz. >> Yeah, just a quick comment. Uh, I've been out of the classroom since uh, 2002 and I taught math and we did drill and

kill and we did worksheets and we did reexographs and mimographs and and I want to thank you and and Dr. Malone who I know and I've spoken with him for bringing us to where we ought to be. You guys are the experts. You've piloted these with our teachers. They've recommended them and I fully support what you guys have put forward. Thank

you for all your hard work. >> Thank you. >> Thank you, Mr. Schwarz. Mr. Bara. So, as a former math teacher, it's it is and as a board member now, it is hard for me not to involve myself in the adoption process. And I feel like I don't do that. I I stay clear because I realize that this is a teacher adoption.

So, but I do want to say now that we're at the point where we're ready to take a vote. I prayed, Lord, don't let it be Imagine Learning, [laughter] okay? Let it be amplified Desmos because and Mrs. Weisma, this curriculum does balance conceptual and procedural fluency. I believe that it does it very well. I believe that um the curriculum

supports the new math framework very well. Um and the data shows traditionally in TBUSD that students understand mathematical concepts and p and proceed you know in terms of procedural fluency and where we you're absolutely correct where we need to improve is in communicating reasoning problem solving and application which I believe this curriculum lends itself well to so I'm I'm very uh I'm I'm I'm

very much into supporting this um adopted curriculum. So that's it. >> Thank you, Mr. Barum. Um I remember thank you uh Mrs. Parr especially for even reminding me it's been a minute since this had been worked on this adoption process, but being on secondary curriculum, I really enjoyed hearing from you, Dr. Malone, Mr. H Cummings, everybody in the room. And as a logic

professor, I teach a highly abstract subject. And I remember saying in math, anything to get a highly abstract subject, to get some concrete particulars down into a visual like with the lizards racing, you know, wherever. And I got to um, you know, see um, Mr. Cummings in action at Great Oak High School with you. You were there.

Somebody else was there, and I'm drawing a blank. I know Dr. Lane was there. And it was really good to see the students take those abstract concepts, work on them with iPads with particulars, but then get into groups and work with them further. So, I'm really stoked. And I remember saying in secondary curriculum, you know, back in my day, old school

math, when we heard word problems, sometimes we were like, okay. And we didn't really get to visualize as much. So, I'm really excited for the new curriculum. And I think it's a proper balance with technology and hands-on, you know, learning and getting the abstract subject. uh to to a teachable and actually a fun way where the kids

are really involved racing lizards. All right. Um but I'm excited. I'm going to vote this in. I got no more um comments. Mr. Schwarz, second round. >> Thank you. >> Let's go. Let's call the vote and move on. >> Okay. But there's a second round from Mrs. Wearsmith. Thank you, Mr. Schwarz. >> I just wanted to add that this clearly

does engage students. So, I appreciate that. And Mr. Baram and I sat on this committee together and we discussed concerns collaboratively. we were actually more like-minded than not and it was good to talk to the parents too. So I hope that in a year as you mentioned we can kind of come back and talk about it because there are a lot of

curriculums to choose from. I respect the fact that this is where we land and I hope moving forward we can have some benchmarks to evaluate things and for parents out there who still do the drill and kill keep the flash cards going for your younger kids and make sure that they are doing math. I think that families can really help and be

complimentary in the whole education process and that makes all the difference too. So I appreciate all your work. >> Thank you. >> You Dr. Anderson >> and just a just a shout out I think Jody and Mike Marble were there and a shout out to Mr. Cumins because he knew D. Morgan's law which impressed me. >> All right. Um thank you and we'll take

this to vote. Do we have a motion in a second? >> Moved. Second. >> Moved by Mr. Schwarz, seconded by Mr. Barum. Len, would you mind calling role >> yes >> Anderson? >> Yes. Barham, >> yes. >> Schwarz, >> Kamroski, >> Student board member, >> Thank you. Motion adopted 5-0. Thanks, L. On to uh item two was pulled for

members in the audience that didn't know that. That will come back next meeting. Items three and four. I'm going to attempt if we have no comments to call an omnous omnibus motion for these two items unless we have board comments. >> Moved. >> Moved by Mr. Schwarz. And this is okay. Specifically, new course ALS dev culture and then item four, new course film

studies B. We have a move by Mr. Schwarz. >> Second. >> Second by Dr. Anderson. Len, would you mind calling role? >> Sure. Guysma, >> yes. >> Kamaroski, oh, sorry, Anderson, sorry. Yes. Barham, >> Schwarz, >> Kamaroski, >> yes. Student board member. >> Yes. >> Motion adopted 5-0. Thank you, Len. On to five. Contract True North Research

Incorporated. >> Two comments. >> We have two comments. We'll invite those speakers up. >> First up is David Hatch, followed by Caroline Hoffman. >> Good evening. Uh just wanted to comment about where I stand on this bond issue. Uh this issue was first raised publicly in May 2025. Since that time, the district has completed a bond feasibility study. That study

[clears throat] concluded that the measure is viable. Noted public education and messaging are important components of the success as are this board. According to the district's own data, 97% of voters believe ensuring a quality education is extremely or very important. I am one of those voters. Quality education is not an ab ab ab ab ab ab ab ab ab ab ab ab ab ab ab ab ab

ab ab ab ab ab ab ab ab ab ab abstract concept. It includes basic learning conditions, safe and functional classrooms, reliable air conditioning during extreme heat, roofs that don't leak and facilities that allow instruction to continue uninterrupted. So this bond is very important and I have seen this district drag its feet regarding this bond and the financial

context really upsets me uh and this delay really upsets me. The district is currently facing a $19 million deficit. At the current trajectory, approximately $59 million will be absorbed by the general fund over the next three years. This bond measure can help with that. The general fund cannot address major facility repairs at scale without cutting teachers salaries, teachers

jobs, reducing programs, or impacting student services. Delaying a facility's bond does not protect the budget. It increases long-term costs and risks. Now, we've had a successful bond before measure Y in 2012. That was quite a while ago. We had a bond meeting earlier this month. Thank God this is finally on the agenda. Timing is critical. The next

realistic opportunity for a facilities bond is 2028. So, with inflation, by then construction costs will be higher, facilities will be older, emergency repairs will be more frequent and more expensive. Delaying does not save money. Delaying worsens conditions and limits options. So in my opinion at this point the question is not whether the facilities need attention. The data

answers that. The public has answered that. The schools have answered that. The question is whether parents and the community will be given the right to vote. You guys talk about parents rights a lot. I hear about it a lot. Give us the right to vote on facilities for our schools to improve them for our children. >> [applause]

>> If this board does not move forward on the bond, the community deserves a clear public alternative plan that explains how facilities will be prepared at scale and how this will be addressed and how instructional time will be protected without relying on vague assurances or emergency fixes. Trustees again frequently speak about parents rights and parents have the right to vote on

the condition of their children's schools. Thank you. >> [applause] >> Thank you. >> Thank you. Next speaker is Caroline Hoffman. Um so yeah, so my notes for this just talk about the fact that can we just approve the contract? Um we've seen from this day when people hem and haw over well what about me and I don't

want this like this is important. The people have spoken. Let's do a second round and let's not try and say we don't need it just because seven people we know have anecdotally said that they don't want to do it. Let the people speak. [applause] >> Mr. Bar. >> Yeah. I mean, the only thing that I want to say coming out of the meeting that we

had, I I believe on the 4th of February when the board advisory committee was here, with all due respect to the to the board members that were asking for possibly funding our facilities through the general fund. As a finance person, I just don't see it happening um long term. Um, we need the right number to complete to do the job without

excessively burdening our TmAcula taxpayers. And I think we can get there. Um, but you know, with all due respect, the general fund is not going to do it. It's it's impossible to me the way that I see it. And uh, we need to move forward with this bond. You need four people on this board to vote yes to put

it on the ballot. And I'm just hoping I'm hoping based on past history that we're going to be able to get four. Um I believe our board advisory committee will come back with the right number hopefully. And uh we can put this on the ballot and like Mr. Hatch just said, let the people decide. They have a right to

vote. you have a right to vote. So, let's let's get this done and let's let's get our matching state funds and let's get the get this thing moving for our kids. Thank you. Yeah. Our our primary responsibility as board members is to the students and if we don't have safe, up-to-date schools, then we are not meeting our

responsibilities. And as Mr. Hatch said and Mr. Barham just said, "It's up to the voters. It's up to us to put it on the ballot so the voters can vote it up or down." And I'm 100% in support. I don't think a lot of people realize if we whatever amount of money we put in the bond, the state matches. So if we

put up um Doc, Mrs. Lash, would you just give me the number? If we put up 50 million, >> Mr. Schwarz, call upon Dr. Vez, please. >> I'm sorry, Dr. is if we get I'm sorry if we get 50 million on the bond how much will we get from the state? >> Okay. >> And that's a perfect question for Mrs.

Lash. [laughter] >> I'm sorry I didn't mean to sidestep. >> You're fine, Mr. Schwarz. >> So for modernization this for eligible projects, the state will match 60% to our 40%. >> Wow. Okay. Well, there you go folks. We want to leave it up to the voters of the district, but I'm going to vote yes. >> Thank you, Mr. Schwarz. Any other

comments, Miss Worma? >> So, as the vice clerk, I've been the liaison to the board advisory council, actually the bond advisory council, and it's been really good. Uh, contrary to the public comments that were shared, I really think we have done our due diligence. We're not heming and hawing. We're actually going through the numbers. We're tasking people to give us

the information we need to hear. And it's really not something you can gloss over quickly. And I'm actually proud of this district for taking the time to educate people, to have an additional workshop to go through all the aspects of really important topics because measure Y was passed long ago. Are we still paying on the interest? What's the

interest look like? Those are issues that we face. If we're going to take on another bond, perhaps that is the best thing. But what about the interest? What are we looking at long term? We can't just go with the idea that it's going to improve the value of our homes and leave it at that. You've got to look at the back end.

There are many people who are encouraging us to consider this bond. There are many people on the other side saying, "Nope, I've got several homes here. I don't want to pay an additional $500,000. I'm being taxed to death in the state of California." So, I'm just saying that it's good that we've gone through this. And with the survey, I'm

not going to vote this down. In fact, I do think we need to ask the questions. And I asked the advisory council, be sure the questions are good ones because, you know, and I know with surveys, sometimes you can skew things according to what you want to hear. Do you want our children to be safe? Of course, we all do, but we need to ask

very specific questions and see what comes back with that survey before they send it out. There's oversight there as well. So, a lot of thought has been put into this and I don't think we need to scold each other about that. It's the right way to go through with this, especially in light of the era we're living in where most things need a doge.

There's a lot of fraud throughout the country. We just want to be sure we're doing it right. >> Thank you, Miss Wman. Dr. Anderson. >> Okay. I'll just say, yeah, I just want to thank um on the February 4th uh special workshop meeting, the board advisory committee specifically dealing with the bond issue, giving us all the particulars and the professionalism from

each member of that um group that night and each board member. It was very well done and we gave a lot of direction to the uh to the board advisory committee to report back with specifics and I'm good on this and I'll be voting this in tonight as well. So the workshop was a successful um outreach and ability to um

share good information with the board so that we can process it and then give back and then you know we'll do a round two. So, that's all I got for this and I'll be voting it in. Okay. Any more comments? All right. Um, I'll move Oh, yeah. I'll call for a motion in a second. >> Move to approve the contract with True

North Research Incorporated. >> Move by Mr. Schwarz. >> Second. >> A second by Mr. Barham. Len, would you mind calling role? >> We >> Yes. >> Anderson, >> yes. Barham, >> yes. >> Schwarz, >> Kamaroski, >> Student board member, >> yes. Motion adopted 5-0. Thank you, Len. [groaning] Number six, resolution number 202526/24 authorizing the procurement of contracts

for district-wide land mobile uh radio MR, excuse me, LMR system and related products and services pursuant to public contract code section 201182. Unless we have discussion on this, I call for a motion in a second. Moved by Mr. Schwarz. >> Second. >> Seconded by Mr. Barham. Len, do you mind call? And by the way, thank you, Mr.

Pastor, for your efforts behind the scenes to effectively give us a safe and secure campus with >> definitely >> better technology. >> Where's Anderson? >> Yes. Barham, >> yes. >> Schwarz, >> Kamaroski, >> Student board member, >> Motion adopted 5-0. Thank you, L. On to seven Benton and Paroy project update to scope and budget. Do we have any

presentation on this? Dr. >> One comment >> Lindsay. I have to get over here. [clears throat] So, I am genuinely excited about this project and I fully support adjusting the budget to reflect current construction reality. So costs have increased across the board. Tariffs, labor shortages, material pricing, and industry demand are real factors. If we want this done right and done with

lasting quality, we have to fund it honestly and responsibly. I will say there was a big jump. Um I want to hear, you know, I I read the rationale. Um maybe we can clarify a couple of things though because when I do look at it from tariffs and labor shortages, you know, it did increase a lot, but I do fully

support it. I don't believe that cutting the scope to fit an outdated number would undermine this long-term impact. This project represents investment in our community vitality, neighborhood pride, and our district growth. Its thoughtfully designed spaces elevate surrounding areas and strengthen long-term value. And I have to say, I am especially excited about the splash pad. That feature alone will create a

gathering place for families and children. It transforms a facility into tr into a true community asset. As someone who lives directly across the street from this build, I see the potential every day, and I am thrilled for it to come to fruition. Thank you so much, Mrs. Lash, for spearheading this project. Your leadership is appreciated, and I can't wait to see it completed. I

do support the staff recommendation. Thank you. Okay. Do we have any discussion on this? Mr. Barum, Dr. Alles, can I speak to Mrs. Lash? >> Absolutely. She's prepared. >> Okay. Perfect. And I apologize, Mrs. Lash, because normally I email you first with these kinds of questions, but I didn't have time [snorts] um today to do that. But um so

this is a big increase from when we budgeted this I think when in July of last year August. Um so can you elaborate on what why the increase is $10 million? >> So first I'd like to point out that Got it. >> L on the spot. >> Okay. So, first I'd like to point out that the motion is accurate at 22

million. The financial impact has a typo. It's not 26 million, okay? >> It's 22 million. >> Um, so I apologize, there's a typo. I'd also like to apologize for not having more detail in the topic sheet for the increase since it is a it's still $6 million increase. And um, so the biggest Well, let me talk about the process

first. So this project was first approved the scope included by the board back in July. At that point, we were only about 50% of the way through schematic design. That's because we had only engaged an architect to kind of draw out what our initial plans are. Since then, we've hired on a construction management company and actually brought in engineers and got

actual costs. So, we are now 100% of the way through schematic design with real numbers. The largest increase by far is the amount of or the cost for site preparation. So, if you've passed by Benton and Porroy, you know it's a big lumpy property. That's what we call it. Um, I mean, and so we completely underestimated the cost for sidewalks,

widening the road, bringing the utilities that are above ground right now underground. Um, and then just preparing the site, bringing in utilities, drainage. Apparently, where we're putting the building is close to EMWD property. So, then we have to update the um the drainage system that's on that side of the property. So about $3.5 million of this increase is due to

the site preparation work just to start building and bringing in those uh those costs. Also the cost of goods has gone up specifically for things like lumber, steel, aluminum, all of which we get from other countries like Canada and Mexico. And the cost of labor is increasing. We've talked a lot about escalation costs in construction being about half a percent a month going up.

So those have all um lent itself to this project. But I want to assure you we're not adding scope. This isn't because we're making it a bigger project. It is taking the design that you've already approved and putting real numbers to it that is causing this to go up. And like I said, um the site preparation was

about three and a half million. the off-site costs are a million dollars higher than we projected. Now, off-site includes all of the things that other people are charging us to do. Um, so the county and outside utilities, not the work that we're doing on the property, but to bring that work to the property was about a million dollars higher than

we originally projected. The only added scope that we have added since we last saw you is what the kids are going to do while they're outside. So, we did add a wall ball. Uh we did do uh basketball courts like painting and um asphalt and the one thing that we did add is also a backup generator. So we are going to be

having students on this campus in the hottest months of the year. French Valley gets much hotter than the rest of the city, the city, and we have power outages, it seems like, intentional power outages almost every summer. And so we'd like backup generators to be on that campus in the event of a power outage. That is adding about $600,000

worth of scope, but it's during the hottest times of the day, in the hottest uh times of the year. So those are the only added scope items, the wall ball, basketball court, and backup generator. All the other increased costs are just the costs uh the budget being updated to for the existing scope that's already been approved. >> Okay.

>> Okay. And and I do want to say >> it's a great schematic. I mean this is going to be a very cool >> facility for kids in the summertime. Um and for the st we're going to use it for staff development >> out out in French Valley. >> Yes. And we're really a lot of our younger families do live in French

Valley and we're really trying to offer them a great program for spring camp and summer camp for their kiddos to go to. >> Okay, perfect. Okay, and you know this question is coming because there's some concerns from in the community. Is there more than one bathroom for staff? [laughter] Because some of us had a hard time finding a second bathroom. So, there is

one bathroom for staff when it is summer school and spring camp when the number of adults on that property is very low. Okay. We will open up all bathrooms when we're using it for professional development, which is a lot more than one. >> Okay. And that's you you've made it very clear. Thank you. >> I apologize if it wasn't more clear. But

this is going to be a very cool >> place for kids to be. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. In the summertime, >> we're very excited. Yeah, especially the splash pad. >> Any other board comments? >> So, quick question. You've done a great job going through the overview of why some of these costs have increased. Um, who who did the initial projection? Is

that a team that comes together to do that? Is it the people here who are then looking a year later and expanding? How does that work initially? So initially it's done by an architect who just takes a per square foot cost approach. And so they'll look at the site and they'll say it's x number of square feet times a

factor. So the building size has not changed. And in fact the building cost hasn't changed. But when we started actually um placing the building on that site, it expanded the footprint of how much we needed to develop by 16,000 square foot. That automatically made the cost go up. And like I said, it's just the initial this uh cost cor per square

foot amount that we applied and not knowing what it would actually cost in the you know, and this is not uh the city of Tmacula. This is the county property and we didn't know exactly what that would cost to bring that site up to or even what the county would require. Like widening the road wasn't something we anticipated have having to do. It's

only when you go through the process do you find those things out. Thank you. Yes, it's interesting to look at traffic management and some of the other aspects like electrical is pretty high. A million dollars allocated to electrical and low voltage systems and all the things. It's interesting. It's it's a big project. So, thanks for clarifying because it seemed like a big

jump. >> I Yeah. Okay. And um again we have that initial scope so that way the board can review the the design and give it approval. So then we have our marching orders to move forward with asking the architect to work with an engineer and a construction management company. So we have an idea of what the board is okay

with. But you're right those dollar values change significantly once we actually involved real numbers. So I it is a big jump. I agree. Thank you, Miss Lash. Any other comments? Uh, >> Dr. Is this your first round, Mr. Schwarz, or second round? >> No, it's the first round. >> First round. Okay, got it. >> Uh, just a quick question. Um, can I ask

Mrs. Lash a question? >> You may, cuz she's the expert in this area. Thank you for asking. >> Mrs. Lash, um, you said some of the materials were imported from Canada. Is that correct? Could you tell me which ones? >> Okay. I should have known you were going to ask. hard one. Um, hold on. I know you said

>> um, it is I'm sorry. I can get it to you. I um, let's see here. >> Canada, uh, aluminum. Aluminum we get we mainly get aluminum from Canada. >> And you said steel. >> Steel we get from Canada and Mexico typically. >> Okay. And lumber I think you said >> and lumber we get uh from uh quite a bit from Canada as

well. >> So I if um up on current events all of those would have been affected by the tariffs that were put in place by the Trump administration. Is that correct? since there's a tariff on Canada for imports. So those costs would have been passed on to us because of the tariffs. >> Thank you. That's all. Just wanted to

clarify. >> Okay, Dr. Anderson, >> I have no comments. I I've looked at the uh plans and the building structure. Looks pretty exciting. So, I'm ready to go to vote unless there's a second round of board comments. Mr. Barham, two minutes. Here we go. >> Um, so Mrs. Flash just to be on the safe side with the number of staff that are

going to be there. Is one bathroom enough? [laughter] I really I mean because if something happens in that bathroom, if there's a plumbing I mean and students are there then we have an issue. I mean that's why I'm asking. >> I believe it will be enough. There will be a single occupancy restroom as well for students. And in a pinch, we could

designate that for staff if need be. But this isn't like a a school where there's lots of staff. This is a summer camp and spring camp. Um, so the number of staff members isn't significantly high while students are there. Now, when we have it for professional development, like I said, there will be a lot more than one

bathroom >> and we can open up the student bathroom. >> Exactly. We would open up all the restrooms, including a single occupancy restroom. that's also designated for students currently. >> There's some people shaking their heads. >> It would significantly add to the cost of the project and we it would also we'd have to go back to design to build that

into our DSA approval plan, which we could do if that was the board's priority. >> My fault. >> Are you done? >> Okay. Um, anybody else for round two outside of Mr. Barum, are we ready to go to vote? Mr. Schwarz, >> I move. >> Second. >> Move by Dr. Anderson. Seconded by Mr. Schwarz. Len, would you mind calling

role? >> Wearsma. >> Yes. Anderson, >> yes. Barham, >> yes. >> Schwarz, >> yes. And I can't wait for the groundbreaking. >> Yes. >> Uh, student board member? >> Motion adopted 5-0. Thank you, Len. Okay. on this. Um, next item 8, uh, resolution 202526/26, elimination, discontinuation, reduction, and layoff of certain classified non-management employees for the 2026-27 school year. Do we have any public

comments? >> Okay. >> Yes, just one. Edgar Diaz. Good evening. Uh while this falls on the CSI CSCA side of the house, uh TVA's was incorporated last month. TVA will continue stay stating that there will be that we're not supporting any layoffs, cuts, or closures that affect students uh in our school district. Our district must exhaust every possible option to

maintain vital resources for students and stop any layoffs from happening. Students and families deserve better. They deserve the services they can to help their students be successful. TVA is fighting back against any risks and we will continue to protect the rights of our members who have received rift notices. Uh, cuts to any program has impacts. Cuts to students mental health

has impacts. Cuts to students able to access school by going to HIA has impacts. As a union, we've been able to work to fix California's broken school funding system. Over 85% of our members have signed a petition to not lose money for TVUSD. That's not lose $40 million in 2030. I invite any staff member sitting on the desk. I

invite any board member to join me in the back with Cindy. We have some petitions if you're also willing to join our effort to make sure that we don't to put on the ballot on the measure to make sure we don't lose $40 million in TVUSD in 2030. Thank you. [applause] Okay, then we have I know but I'm asking

the board first. So, no discussion over here. All right, Miss Chai. Um, I understand that these reductions are being recommended due to uh like fiscal considerations, but from a student perspective, I don't know who would be the best to answer this question, but could we clarify how these changes will impact support at school sites, particularly for students in

special education programs and those receiving behavioral or mental health services, and how will we ensure continuity of services and student well-being during this transition? >> Miss Chai, thank you for the question. And I'm gonna have Mr. Arce go ahead and address your question. That's a great question, Melissa. >> Uh first off, uh thank you for asking that question because it comes down to

making sure that students are supported and students continue to receive uh services. What um what I need to explain about this particular resolution is that there are some that as you know the board gave direction on based on some budget related reductions and all of that. So those are home instead positions, right? But there are also some that the law now

prescribes that we provide a certain deadline and a timeline for notices to classified staff when there's going to be any kind of reduction in force. So a layoff, for example, in a position that's sped related, an instructional assistant position, for example, may just be related to that student no longer receiving those services. Nonetheless, we still have to follow

that same process, the March 15th deadline. I have a uh director of classified staff who works uh with CSEA directly and with employees and meets with employees to go over what are called assignment rights which means that employee may not end up providing services to that particular student at that school. But there are bumping rights, seniority processes and other um

factors that play in including open vacancies and we very often have open vacancies and pair of professional positions that it is likely the case that they may end up working in a different capacity. Um it is always our priority that we try to um do whatever we can to maintain uh appropriate levels of staffing particularly in the area of

student services. So thank you for that question. Thank you. Okay, we will Do we have a motion in a second? >> Moved. >> Moved by Dr. Anderson. >> Second. >> Second by Mr. Schwarz. The name, would you mind calling a role? >> Wema, >> yes. >> Anderson, >> yes. Barham, >> Schwarz, >> Koski, >> yes. >> Student board member,

>> Thank you. Motion adopted. 5-0. Okay, we're on to number nine. 2026 California School Boards Association CSBA delegate assembly election. We have one comment. >> Caroline Hoffman. >> I would [clears throat] just like to um suggest that we don't burden Joe with more responsibility. Um and you know he's as he showed he can't follow parliamentary procedure so he just wipes

it out. So, I don't think that it would be in the best interest um of of that. Um sorry, my notes are scattered like my thoughts. Um he's ruining this valley with his culture war issues and he shouldn't have a seat on the table impacting the state. Thank you. >> I have I have one comment. >> Okay. Dr. Anderson. Um, I just wanted to

point out, um, it says we can vote up for up to six delegates and, um, Len and I worked on a a form so that we can go each board member at a time and they can vote for their delegates up to six. Um, I do want to point out the more people that you vote for, the more it waters down the pool.

And I wanted to talk about bullet voting that they did in Muretta last year. was suggested by one of their board members. Um, if you have board members that you really want to be elected, it's better to concentrate your votes and focus on those board members. And I'm going to suggest that we focus on the board members at Tmacula so we get Tmacula

representation. Um, other than that, that's all I was going to do. I think that um Lenny has the chart so that she can um ask each person in order who they're going to vote for. And we did it if if you're okay, Dr. Kroski, we just listed it in normal voting order. So we'd go Jen, me, Barham, Schwarz, Kamaroski, and

then we'll total for each delegate like Eleanor Briggs is listed first. She would need the majority of three of us to support her to be one of our district choices. >> That is correct. >> Okay. Thank you. >> So, if you don't mind, Dr. Anderson, I'm going to hand it over to you and you can work with LE and call on a board member

at a time and they can give their they can cast their votes. We'll just do one at a time and be done >> and then we can do a motion and a second on who passes the >> the three board member test and we could do a sweeping vote in When he comes up, I'll ask. >> Okay.

>> No problem. >> Is that clear? Somebody was talking over there. >> Say it again. >> I'm going to hand it over to Dr. Anderson. She's going to use this grid. Len is going to call on us one at a time in proper voting order. Cast your vote for each board member that you want on the sheet.

>> Are you going to up to six? >> Up to six. >> Up to six. So, for example, let's say if she calls on me first, she'll say Dr. Anderson, Elanor Briggs, and I'll say yes or no. Then I'll say Joseph. She'll say Joseph Kamaroski, and I'll say yes or no. She'll go through and I'll say yes or no on each one. I can say yes up

to six times. Correct. And then I'm just letting everyone as a board me member know if you want to concentrate your vote and you vote for six people, it waters down the pool. Um and that's how Muretta got who what was Steve? What was the lady's name last year from Myetta that >> Linda Lund? >> Linda Lond this was her she she

presented this to try and get more Myetta delegates and I like the idea of getting Tmacula delegates. so that our school district can be represented. That's my personal opinion on it. Okay, let's go. >> If I could comment. >> Okay, short. So, as a comment, okay, >> as someone who was a delegate before, um it doesn't work like that. Okay, you

vote for six, you the fact that you vote for someone who is not from your area doesn't knock you out. If you vote for your people, then their vote is counted from our district. So, you vote for the six people you want. Unless you only want two, then vote for two. But the fact that um you vote for more or less

does not uh change how the result is. >> All right. Thank you. >> Sure, >> Len. I'll have you work with in tandem with Dr. Anderson. >> All right. I have them on the screen there, one through nine. So, I won't say what city they're from, but it's up there if you need it. >> And Mrs. Vers. Yeah.

>> Jen. Uh Eleanor. >> Yes. Kamroski, yes. Leonard, >> yes. Dodd, >> no. >> Navaro, >> Schwarz, >> Johnson, >> yes. >> Porus, >> no. >> Williamson, >> Dr. Anderson Briggs, >> yes. >> Yes. >> Kamaroski, >> Leonard, >> no. Dodd, >> Navaro, >> Schwarz, >> yes. >> Johnson, >> no. >> Porus, >> Williamson, >> Mr. Barham, Briggs,

>> Kamaroski, >> no. >> Leonard, >> Dodd, >> yes. >> Navaro, >> Schwarz, >> Johnson, >> yes. Porus, >> yes. >> Williamson, >> Mr. Schwarz, >> one, two, three, four, five, six, six. >> Uh, Briggs, >> no. >> Kamaroski, >> uh, can I ask Dr. Kamaroski a question? Uh, Dr. Vez, before I vote, >> you sure can.

>> Okay, thank you. Um, do you know which region of CSBA we're in? >> 18. >> Okay. Do you know who our director is? Uh, Sea Blank. I have his name in my cell phone. >> Okay. Do you know who our pacer is? >> No. >> Okay. Do you know how often the DA meets? >> You know what, Mr. Schwarz? I hope you

find the answers to your questions. I'm not going to be questioning like this. Go ahead. >> No. >> Yep. >> I thought you were going to ask another question. >> No, you said I know the answers. I I was a delegate. I know the answers. I'm Since you have shown no in I'm sorry. I was asking questions to see if you

really were interested in being a delegate and if you did some research. So since you haven't and you don't know the answers, I'm going to vote no respectfully. Thank you. Just like you excuse me, just like you did to me last time. >> Okay, Leonard. Mr. No. >> Okay. Um Dodd. >> Uh no. >> Navaro. >> No.

>> Schwarz. >> Yes. >> Johnson. >> Porus. Yes. >> Williamson. >> Okay. Dr. Kamaskki. Uh, Briggs. >> Yes. >> Kamaroski. >> Leonard. >> Dodd. >> No. >> Navaro. >> Schwarz. >> No. And I'll make a comment. It's funny that Mr. Schwarz denied me going to many CSBA events. So, I showed motivational attitude and he did not. So, there's

another contradiction. And that's why I'm voting no on you. >> You did it before. It's okay. And we're on to Johnson. >> I won't take >> Johnson. >> Yes. >> Porus. >> No. >> Williamson. >> And now we can take a tally on the full votes. Um, any candidate who got three or more, >> I think we should vote at them one at a

time. I second >> because we can't obviously there's a at least a board member here or two who's going to have conflicting votes. So maybe we start with Elellanar Briggs. Can I get a motion in a second? >> I'm sorry. I I didn't hear what you just said. >> We're going to vote one at a time. Eleanor all the way through. Motion in a

second for each candidate and then >> I'm sorry. Excuse Excuse me. Did we just vote for everybody? >> Didn't we just vote go through everybody? We have to we have to take an official motion in a second. Mr. Schwarz, you want me to lead the meeting because I would like to. >> I'm I'm simply asking you a question.

What are you proposing? >> I'm trying to tell you. >> Go ahead. >> We are going to vote. We are going to vote >> one at a time. Yes. >> Motion in a second. Unless you have a better idea. Len has the tally on each candidate. >> The tally is already >> get the tally. Get the tally from Len.

She's telling it up. We had um one with four votes which was Ben Johnson. >> And then we had three with three votes which was Schwarz, Kamaskki, and Briggs. And then we had a two-way um we had three members that had two votes. So those that was Leonard, Doris, and Williamson. >> So maybe we can take the Eleanor and

Johnson and do a first vote and then we'll separate Kamaroski and Schwarz and we have divi since we have divided votes. >> No. >> No. We already voted. We're not voting again. We already >> Mr. Schwarz, you are not leading the meeting. You're out of order. >> Dr. Kamaraskki, >> you can take a recess if you want. And

I'm going to leave the meeting. >> Recess. We Excuse me. >> We have not taken an official motion and second. >> We have to. >> Thank you. >> I do. >> If you have a better idea, fine. But we do have to take a motion. >> We should do a motion and a second on each. So we all we all kind of cast who

we want. And then we need to do a motion and a second, >> right, which I'm asking for >> on each board member and officially send it in. I think it's best if we make it official with a motion and a second. And we need to read out the motion. I move Eleanor Briggs second and then vote and

go down the line. >> That's exactly what I just said. >> Okay. So >> So I I agree with you. So Len, would you please call roll for Elanor Briggs? >> Dr. Kamaroski, can I be recognized? Where's my >> Yeah. No, you know what? Uh Mr. Mr. Barham wants to be recognized. Yeah. >> Yeah. >> I mean,

it seems as if we've already voted. >> Wouldn't it Let me talk to him, please. That we would just motion based on the votes that we just did. >> Okay. And >> take a vote. >> Here is the problem. You can't have two contradictory votes with Mr. Schwarz and me. >> What are you talking about? Because you

have to separate them out. >> I'm not voting for him. He's not voting for me. So, let's separate them out. >> Also, Mr. Johnson, >> you know what, Melinda? We're talking right now. >> Yeah. >> Thank you. >> I don't get it. >> Unless we've Okay. Unless we take a motion on a second for each board member

that got three or more. That actually Yeah, let's do that. >> Let's do that. >> All right. Call for a motion to second on any candidate who got three or more votes. >> Okay. >> And that would specifically be Mrs. Briggs, Dr. Kamroski, >> Leonard, >> Mr. Schwarz, and Ben Johnson. >> Mr. Schwarz and Ben Johnson. Three and

above. >> Good. We have a motion to second on. >> So, we're only going to adopt four. Okay. So, it was motioned by Kamaroski and seconded by Schwarz. >> Yes. >> Okay. Uh, where's my >> You're not you're not you're not um when we do this vote, we're not, for example, I'm not voting for Schwarz. He's not

voting for me. We are collectively voting on each candidate who got three or more votes from from the majority of the board. That's all we're doing. We're recognizing that they have a majority. >> Okay. And are we splitting them up individually? >> No, we are just a sweeping motion now. >> We know that three people voted for

Schwarz. We know that three people voted for me. And we are voting us in collectively even though you and I Yeah. >> Can I read out the motion? I move I call for a motion and a second to choose Eleanor Briggs as a candidate for the 2026 2020 28 delegate assembly >> in Riverside County. Do I have a second?

>> We already Excuse me. >> We already have No, no, no. Dr. Anderson, we already have the motion in the second. Len, please call. It's just expedient. Let's just get through this. >> Thank you. >> We You were not Steve. >> You were not voting for Steve and neither am I. The the motion is the motion is to approve

>> Ben Johnson, Mr. Schwarz, Dr. Kamaroski, and Eleanor Briggs for the CSBA delegate assembly. >> That is correct. >> We have a motion and a >> Excuse me. Dr. Anderson is >> I'm so confused. >> Are we voting for everyone? >> We are collectively voting for Let me make this clear. I'll try to simplify it. We are voting for everyone who had

three or more votes. We are not. For example, when I vote, I am not voting for Schwarz, but the board collectively is voting for Schwarz because he got three or more votes even though I wasn't one. >> Thank you for clarifying, Dr. Kamroski. >> And same with him and me. >> Same with him and me. >> We are going through

>> sweeping >> one sweeping motion. And we already have the motion in the second. It's like an omnibus within the action item. >> Only voting those four candidates. Thank you. Miss moved by Kamaskki and seconded by Schwarz. >> Miss Anna Seabar, just for Miss Ana Sebar, just for clarity, can you read the motion again as it stands?

>> A motion and a second to approve Ben Johnson, Steven Schwarz, Dr. Joseph Kamaskki, and Eleanor Briggs for the 2026 2028 delegate assembly subregion 18A Riverside County. Is moved by Mr. Kamaskki. Dr. Kamaskki and seconded by Mr. shorts where >> this is frustrating to me because this I would have edited to vote for the three >> that I voted for with my yes I'm not

voting for Mr. Schwarz so I wish we had done this differently >> we made that clear Jen that goes we have made that clear >> thank you >> okay >> we smith no >> no Mrs. Yes, please. >> Oh, where's Miss Yes. Anderson? >> My vote is also yes, but I was under the impression we would vote for

>> Dr. Dr. Anderson. Let's get through this, please. >> Barham Barham Schwarz. >> Yes. >> Kamaroski. >> Yes. Motion. >> Student board member. That's right. Thank you. >> Yes. >> Motion adopted. 5-0. And if anybody wants clarity on what we did, just listen to this again. I made it very, very, very specific. Each board member voted individually who they wanted. That

remains. >> Thank you, Dr. clarifying it. I appreciate it. >> Thank you. Uh 10 subcommittee goals and adoption. >> We have four public comments. First up is David Hatch, followed by Edgar Diaz. >> Okay. Wow. It is pretty much impossible to underestimate this board at this point. And [laughter] uh so my comment is is not surprising to me

that this is going on anyways. Uh so the board adopted a formal subcommittee governance process February 10th. It required clear purpose structured documentation defined timelines, standard reporting and transparency so the public can understand the trust and work being done. And yet the subcommittee goals were released that didn't they do not follow that process. What the public received was not

structured governance. It wasn't a a documentation of structured governance. It was a vague list of general intentions, which is nice, but very vague. There are no consistent timelines, no clear sunset dates, no standardized reporting structure, no evidence that the transparency requirements you guys adopted are actually being followed. So, this is a failure of governance to me and this is

why people in the community are frustrated. You guys created rules, you adopted them publicly, and now they aren't being followed. Maybe there is a big report coming with all these details, but I uh not gonna hold my breath. So, that really under undermines the credibility of your this board. You guys, come on. We got to get some credib

credibility back in the community. Governance works when the rules apply to everyone, including the board itself. Otherwise, this is just performative and it gives the appearance of transparency without delivering the substance of transparency. Subcommittees, I'm just finding out about this, exercise real influence. They shape policy direction. They shape recommendations. And when they operate without structure, documentation, and the transparency you

promised this month, the public is left in the dark. And I find that unacceptable. The community should not have to question whether subcommittees are operating properly. The confidence should come from clear compliance with the governance process you adopted. Right now that compliance is not visible. So the board I feel like you should correct this. Provide some structured documentation, timelines,

reporting expectations and the transparency that your own policy requires. So, if they don't, if you guys don't do that, then those standards mean nothing and the public has noticed. >> Thank you. Next up is Edgar Diaz, followed by Caroline Hoffman. [applause] >> I'm speaking to the committee that's working on bargaining because I thought as a board you all were to provide

guidance to staff on what it is you're supposed to bargain. I saw that there's a sunshine committee to work on two particular areas that you want to bargain which is not really what the sunshine process is. Sunshine process is what are the areas that the district and the union are going to bring about to bargain in the ongoing bargaining cycle.

Yet this sunshine committee focuses on a couple different components of what you want to bring in which is the neutral policy and something else. But I'm just questioning how is it that two board members are providing guidance on these two issues without have being the whole board that decides what's actually happening and bargaining at the table. [applause]

>> Next up is Caroline Hoffman followed by Lindsay. Okay. I will lose my mind if you spend 45 minutes on this one item, but it sounds like you are going to go through each thing. I would have hoped that everybody would have done their research and read it and could have just voted this in, but that's not going to

happen. Um, knowing you all um, yeah, I won't hold my breath. Also, can you drop the desire to bring back the D? As we've heard countless times, a Dgrade Oh, wait. I'll wait. I can wait. Thank you. >> Your time is running. Thank you. >> Oh, I know. A D-grade does not make you proficient in a subject, but a D-grade

also doesn't trigger the need to retake the course. I thought we wanted to push students expectations higher, not lower them just because your friend's kid can't pass basic math. For crying out loud, if you pull students and staff and learn that there was an uptick of racial slurs, does that mean you will actually support the implication of CRT? Says

it's not taught here, so you can protect students of color rather than coddle white students. super curious. Oh, I still have some time. Um, what else was on that? >> Any other comments? >> Okay, last comment is Lindsay. >> So, I'm speaking mainly to the subcommittee goals. So when this grading subcommittee um grading subcommittee originally included Stephen and Emil the

focus was alignment and what I mean by alignment is when I took a trigonometry class I will never forget I had a proof um I missed a big portion in it got minus five neighbor next to me got minus three there was no consistency with the grading and that's what I consider alignment just so you guys are aware so

it was about reducing subjectivity it was about ensuring that point deductions were consistent across classrooms it was about making sure a student earned the same outcome in one class as they would in another for the same level of work. That is meaningful technical academic work that supports teachers and protects students. This new proposed purpose for the the grading subcommittee does not

reflect that mission. Instead, it centers on the D-grade, a structural change that does nothing to fix inconsistency. A D does not represent mastery. It represents significant gaps in understanding. Moving a student forward with a D sends them into the next course without real readiness. It creates the illusion of progress without ensuring competence. If we are serious about equity and rigor, the focus should

remain on consistent grading standards, shared expectations, and meaningful intervention. Not inserting a buffer grade that delays accountability. Alignment improves those outcomes. A D-grade does not. Now, my thoughts on the drug subcommittee. Three months ago, Dr. K, you publicly tasked Mrs. Wema with identifying an alternative provider if ruhs could not be finalized. That has not been done. That was done on this

day. I ask you to intervene tonight. There is still nothing before this board. There's no executed. There's no alternative provider. There's no implemented district-wide prevention or recovery structure. In that time, there's been dozens and dozens and dozens of students who should have had access to structured intervention services and they've gone without a coordinated program. Dozens and dozens

of families have been left without clear support, without a pathway, and without answers. This is not a framework discussion anymore. This is not committee theory anymore. This is a failure to execute a direct assignment tied to student safety. Corrective action and firm timelines need to be presented tonight. I have heard subcommittee come up almost every single month. Where is the action? It's been 7

months and there's been nothing presented. If our UHS is not finalized, Mrs. Wearsma, you were tasked by our president. What is the alternative? Who is responsible? What is the start date? If clear action is not established immediately and by immediately I mean tonight I myself along with Cole every man along with many of my neighbors in my community will be filing a uniform

complaint and I am aware of multiple community members prepared to do the same 7 months. >> Any other board comments? >> Okay. So to be specific, the rules of debate, thank you. The rules of debate apply to this to where it's two minutes and two minutes, but it's on all items at once, not each individual item. So we can take

any discussion if we have it. >> Dr. Anderson. >> So sorry, Dr. realiz you might not like this, but I actually wanted the minutes submitted, but that's not the direction that everybody wanted to go. So, we worked with district staff. These goals were created with staff and there is progress on all of these committees um to answer Mr. Diaz. We've provided

copies of ideas and asked for feedback from all board members and from the teachers association regarding neutral classrooms and sensitive topics. So board members are welcome to give us their input, but I haven't seen any emails or input on that yet. Um, so that's that's pretty much it. I think there's a real big misunderstanding. They that you guys think that like me

and and Jen did >> or Jen and I, sorry. and Melissa maybe came up with this on our own, but we did work with Dr. VeZ and we're going to continue to move forward with dress code um grading practices. I'm going to say that I put my trust in the highly qualified and trained individuals who some of them have masters and doctorate

degrees to align curriculum and not mediocre math teachers that are retired. So my trust is in the district and we are working our highly qualified individuals with the district and that's the direction um that we're going is letting the qualified people who have training experience masters and doctorate degrees in aligning curriculum and grades um to do that along with us um dual immersion

sunshine drug intervention we're going to meet again, but I'll just wait because there's a lot going on there and I'll let other people speak on CRT. That's all. >> Thank you, Dr. Anderson. I'm going to go next and then I'm going to call upon Dr. Veles. But I first want to just say something. I want to pause for a moment

and this goes for the rest of the meeting. Um trustees discussion should be directed through the president and focus on the item, not towards one another. Let's literally try to stay on that. >> Let's try to limit the personal attacks on each board member. Let's just try to vote and move forward. Dr. I don't want to be here till 12 and

let's just be let's just expedite the meeting and get through our votes. >> She apologized. >> I just >> I just want to provide a little clarity just in terms of the board subcommittee. So, Dr. Anderson's correct. All of the goals were developed in um kind of a collaborative nature with board members assigned to that subcommittee along with

district staff. The first step in the process is to develop the goals, get consensus and a vote from the entire board to allow the board and the subcommittees to continue to move forward. So, as I've shared with Dr. Kamaroski, at the next meeting, our hope is that every committee will reconvene. They will come up with a timeline and a

sunset date. And then for transparency purposes, all of the notetaking after this is approved tonight will be available online for anybody to look at. And then we will establish timelines throughout the course of the year or until the sunset date of each individual subcommittee that the board members will report out what's happening. So I just want clarity for the entire board and

for the community that there are still kind of next steps that need to be made. We just needed agreement from an entire board to allow the board subcommittees to work in consultation with the district to continue to move forward. >> Thank you, Dr. Fles. >> Any other board members? >> Yeah. >> Uh yes. >> Um the one committee that we're on, we are

moving forward. Dr. Bar, Mr. Barham and I met with uh Mrs. Deis and uh Mrs. Wadell. We've developed a timeline for how we're going and the committee will sunset at the end of that process of June and at the end of June our committee will sunset once we are uh we've planned to do some visits to see

programs of dual immersion since we do not have any here. We're planning on going either to Fbrook or to uh some other district that's close by. I know Mrs. Par's children are in a program like that. >> We might even uh go there and I I'll turn it over to Mrs. Deis just to finish up because we

>> call on Dr. Veles though. >> I'm sorry. Dr. Velesco, Mrs. Deas, finish up on our committee. >> Yes, I know you've been involved in that. Thank you, Mr. Schwarz. >> You stop the clock. >> You don't have to give her a >> We'll get a mic over to you. Give us some time. Give us some time.

>> Is this one working? >> Yes. >> Yes. Sorry. Uh the only thing I will add is that our goal in this committee is to lay the foundation for next year's progression towards an implementation of dual immersion. So what I appreciate about this subcommittee is the work and groundwork that will be laid this semester so that at that time when the

committee sun sets in June, the district is well poised to continue the work with what we learn and put a dual immersion uh program in place based on the information we receive. >> Thank you. >> Thank you, Mr. Deas. And do we have any other board comments? >> I do. >> Mr. borrow. [sighs] >> Okay. Having two sitting board members on a

Sunshine subcommittee whose stated goal is to provide input and support regarding the bargaining of the district's Sunshine items is dangerous because it blurs the legal and governance line between public transparency and direct involvement in negotiations, undermining both the district's position and public trust. Best practice, and this is where we were going, and then we veered off course, is

that the board sets parameters, delegates actual bargaining to a properly constituted negotiations team of management, and where appropriate, legal counsel. That's where we started. We have veered off course. A subcommittee whose mission statement is to provide input and support on bargaining specific sunshine items can look like a pre-cooked channel for a subset of the board to work things out

with the union outside the full board and outside regular meetings. a way to privilege one stakeholder in ongoing access to board members about negotiable items, undermining confidence that all stakeholders, parents, other employee groups, and taxpayers are treated even-handedly. A safe framing is a sunshine or transparency committee whose role is limited to ensuring legal compliance with public disclosure and notice

requirements, providing neutral explanations of what items are being sunshined and how the public can comment, reporting back to the full board without opining on bargaining strategy or specific positions on negotiable items. Anything beyond that, especially explicit input and support on bargaining of specific sunshine items, invites legal risk, weakens the district's bargaining posture and corrods both board unity and public

confidence in the process. That's it. Okay. I want to correct some misinformation. I believe you were reading from chat GBT but I don't really know so I'll just assume but there's misinformation just to the public just to clear things up the majority of the board sets the collective bargaining parameters by which a collective bargaining team that we are not on in

interacts with uh special interest groups like TVA CSEA that is exactly what happens so I'm going to want to correct that misinformation you spread related to a subcommittee two members of a board sub subcommittee they have input and that's what the subcommittee is designed to do. So I'm going to separate these out and just correct you. Len, if

you can please scroll up. I just want to read to the audience just to report out on the CRT. I'm just going to read in each of these just to remind everybody each of these a district staff member or two including Dr. Blaz had input on. So I'm just going to read this out and leave the comments as they are.

Um this is Mrs. worseman and I we have come together with this. Um before the end of the current school year, the subcommittee will reconvene with the superintendent to evaluate the experiences of the students, staff, and parents over the past year, including any racially driven complaints or campus concerns and determine whether any issues related to CRT or intercultural

relations warrant board consideration. The goal is to ensure respectfully or sorry, a respectful, orderly, and unified TVSD community. That's all I'll read out and I yield back my time. Dr. Anderson. >> Yeah, Mrs. Wman. So, I would like to add for the drug instruction intervention and recovery. We're actually meeting Monday and it's going to be a great meeting because

we've got a lot of people involved. The thing that I want to assure the public is there are so many moving parts and none of us take our subcommittee participation lightly. So there has definitely been a plan in place. We're talking to multiple individuals. I know the staff is confident that at the end of this we will have a robust program

that addresses things from the elementary age through middle school and up to the high school. The trajectory of the schedule is not something trustees control. We have to work together to figure out what works best. So for students here in the room that are wondering, just know we are discussing things. We're doing things and usually it takes a little bit more time, but I

want to assure you everybody's doing their part. >> Thank you, Miss Wman, Dr. Anderson. >> Okay. Um, we're on to second round of comments. Mr. Schwarz yields. Mr. farm >> with this uh sunshine committee. These two board members put the district at risk. They are not the employers. The mere existence of this subcommittee and its intended goal. We will more than

likely face an unfair labor practice charge costing the district hundreds of thousands of dollars in order to protect the district and safeguard taxpayer monies. And the warning has already come. He the the the union president, he just came up here and talked about it. In order to protect the district and safeguard taxpayer money, I move that this committee be disbanded. Do I have a

second? >> Second. >> You are a member of You are a member of you. Sorry, excuse me. You are not a member of the prevailing party. You are out of order. You did the same thing last meeting. You cannot. We will not grant that motion. >> Of course you won't. >> That's because I'm following the law and

I want to and I want to correct you, Mr. Barum. Thank you. You've already had the exact same motion and I think the other board members would recognize that we vote on the exact same thing. So is uh do you want to comment anymore? >> I am allowed to bring this motion back. And you are excuse me, it's my time. You

are putting this district at risk. >> Excuse point of order. You are put I've corrected you. You will not bring back the motion. >> This is my time. I >> Renee, I'll give him 20 seconds, but you will not bring that back. >> Yeah, this is my time. Okay. You are putting the district at risk. You are

putting taxpayer money at risk just like you did in 2023 because you don't heed warnings. Okay? That is the problem here. Okay? And it's my job to ensure the protection of the district's financial security. Okay? And that is what I'm doing. And the union president came up here. He's giving you a warning about the sunshine committee. So you should eat it.

>> Yeah. Now I will take my time and I will address the elephant in the room. Here's the elephant in the room. The union president is behind a lawsuit May versus Kamroski and is currently suing TVUSD. So I want you to think about that elephant in the room and I'm well within my ability to out of order.

>> No, I'm not. And please do not interrupt. >> Let him finish. >> If these legal fees come down and these teachers are complaining for raises and sped and all that kind of stuff, I just want you to consider I just Excuse me. I just want you to consider that your union president is suing the current district. Okay. Okay.

So, so let me be frank. When you cite a uh a union president coming up here, you can cry me a river of tears. Thank you. But I will still have Len pull up now the D subcommittee and I'll try to >> May I comment? >> No, you may not. It's my time. Thank you. I >> I thought you done.

>> No, I'm not done. >> After you're done. grading practices. So this was uh Dr. Anderson and myself. We sat down with Joe Balawag and um Mrs. Deis very appreciative. The purpose of the grading practices subcommittee is to conduct a structured datadriven review of the grading practices within Tmacula Valley Unified School District with a specific focus on

historic use, function, and impact of the D-grade while educating the governing board and community through transparent analysis of district data and research. As part of this work and community, As part of this work, the community may develop and revise surveys for teachers, administrators, and parents, analyze quantitative and qualitative findings, report publicly on outcomes, and return to the governing

board by June 2026 for consideration of next steps and potential continuation of work. And to emphasize, we know that this policy has been in place for over 20 years. So we want the parents and the teachers to be very informed when they take a vote and when we conduct this um survey of teachers and parents inside admin. We actually want them to know the

tension point. Hey, if you if if we take a vote to remove the day degrade, here's the systems that come in place that are affected for over 20 years. >> Thank you. >> I think we're done with second round comments unless Dr. Anderson >> I didn't get second comments. >> There you go. Your turn. I find it interesting that the suit you

cited is May versus Kamroski, not May versus Schwarz or May versus Barkley, but May versus Kamaroski. And I was on that board when that vote was taken to pass that CRT resolution at the first meeting when Dr. Kamroski and Mrs. Wearsma and Mrs. Mrs. Mr. Gonzalez were elected and they decided the very first meeting before we did anything

else. >> Mr. Schwarz, for clarity and I'll give you more time. What are you talking about on this goal subcommittee >> the CRT resolution? Just to make it clear, >> I'm talking about CRT. >> Okay. >> You mentioned the lawsuit and the union president and I want people to know where it came from. It did not come from

Schwarz and Barkley. It came from Weisma Gonzalez and Kamroski. Thank you. >> Amen. >> Point of clarity for the audience. Uh the Kamaros the Kamaroski title is aimed at TVSD. Did they just take the board president's name to just do a point of clarity with you? Nice try though. Okay, so I think we've exhausted comments. I'll take a motion and a second to

approve. >> Subcommittee goals and adoption. Moved by Dr. Anderson. >> Second. >> Second by Miss Wesma. Len, would you mind calling roma? >> Yes. >> Anderson? >> Yes. Barham? >> No. >> Schwarz, >> no. Kamaroski. >> Yes. >> Student board member, >> refrain from voting. >> Motion adopted 3 to2. Thank you, Len. >> We are on the second reading and

adoption of new or amended board policies and administrative regulations, exhibits, and board bylaws. My we have one comment. We'll welcome them up. >> First only speaker is Caroline Hoffman. >> Maybe don't want to welcome me up now, huh? >> [laughter] >> I don't have much to say, so I can wait for you to pay attention. Um, I'm just c

I'll wait. >> Please start our time. Thank you. >> Oh, no. It started. I'll wait for you to listen. >> Um, I'm just curious who goes over these because I noticed um an error with um with the revised board policy comprehensive school safety plan. um you reference education code 48901.7 and in section three it says this policy may also include enforcement

mechanisms that limit access to smartphones notwithstanding subdivision A. A pupil shall not be prohibited from possessing or using a smartphone under the following circumstances. in the case of emergency or response to a perceived threat of danger. And moving over to page four, number 17 on this uh revised uh page four. Uh you say explicit procedures to prohibit the use of smartphones in case

of emergency or response to a perceived threat of danger such as prohibited you. Such use is prohibited by board policy 5131.8, mobile communication device education code 48901.7. So, I'm just curious like who's spending the time to actually like do these if you're not even doing them right because we know your lawyer gets things wrong all the time.

Okay. Welcome uh board discussion unless we have a motion in a second. >> I I had a couple amendments, but I'm asking that you not to set the two-minute timer because they're really quick, but I want to go over the >> We're setting two minutes and two minutes. >> Well, I have to make motions and I don't

think I can be denied the opportunity to make a motion. So, I want to start by making a motion to amend. >> Okay. So, I'm yielding the floor to you. A motion. So, so let me start on action item 11. >> Wait, wait, hold on, hold on. To um >> I have two amendments I want to make to

two policies. How do you want to allow me to do that? >> I can I want to I want I want to be fair and have um >> Give me a second here. >> Can I show you on my computer? >> Yep. One second. We can't amend them, can we? >> We shouldn't. >> So, this is a two minute and a two

minute for the entirety of it. So, make your motions within your two minutes and we can entertain that right away. >> Okay. >> Dr. Kamar, >> that way I can be fair to everybody else with their two minutes. >> Can I just ask a quick question? >> It's it's a simple question. >> No, I don't yield the floor to you.

We're going to have Dr. Anderson go first and then we'll come back to you next. >> Lenny, will you know what? No, excuse me. If it's a clarifying question, go ahead. >> It's a clarify. >> Okay. >> Okay. So, if this is a second read, should we be amending these? >> We can amend anything on here we want.

>> Okay. Yeah, that's all I want to know. >> Yeah. >> At this point. >> As Okay, that's all I want to know. >> So, and then stop my time when I'm ready. Did don't start my time until Lenny gets my things pulled up. >> Uh, right. It would be action item 11 >> right here. Starting right there.

>> And to be clear, we can uh just as a point of clarity, Dr. Anderson, I won't start your time yet. We can bring these back for a third read, for example, on information reports, we can clarify that on the first read that it can go a first read, second read, third read. Just if the majority of the board decides on the

second read they want to vote it in, we can. >> All right. Dr. >> So, I'm going to start with I move to amend action item 11. Um, student board member 9150. I'd like to add the language. All communications related to board business between the student board member and the individual trustees shall copy the superintendent or designate.

Private social media messaging between trustee and the student board member is prohibited >> in real time. Dr. Anderson, I'm just trying to find the amendment and look it up like cuz I have nine in front of me, I believe. So, got it. And then >> there's a lot of highlighted pink language. Excuse me. Um, what are you what are you editing one

more time? Everything that you reading on top of it. >> Student board member 9150. I wanted to make a motion to amend and add this language to policy 9150. It's at the top of the screen. >> I see it. >> Okay. So, you want a motion and a second on this one item >> uh without additional language.

>> Yes, >> I second it. >> Okay. >> What is the What is the language? I'm sorry. >> This is a second read. All communications related. It's the first paragraph. >> Okay. First paragraph >> discussion. >> Yeah, discussion. >> Well, it's it's it's still your time. Uh >> so I made the motion and there was a second and then usually after the motion

in the second, then there's discussion. >> Correct. We agree. We agree. But you're also on your first two minutes and it includes all items here. So is it possible that you want to include >> this isn't going to work. >> Well, >> how how can we make a motion to amend a 20 policies in two minutes? >> We we're on it. We're we're entertaining

your first motion. Let's just do this. We'll pause your time and we'll finish up your other item after this. Okay, that's what I'm trying to get. >> So, all I wanted was to add this language to the student board member 9150 >> and I seconded it. So, now we have discussion and then we'll pause your time and come back to you because you

have another item. It's a little complicated, but >> So, Dr. Anderson, if uh Dr. if it's not out of order since our student board member is here. >> Is it Can I ask her a question? >> I don't think so. >> Technically, she's a member of Technically, she's a member of the board, but I'll have I'll have um

>> This is about her. >> This is a motion about her. She's sitting here. Are we supposed to am I supposed to ignore her like she doesn't exist? This isn't targeted at Melissa. >> We're We're Okay. It's >> Excuse me. Let him proceed. >> Dr. Anderson, I'm speaking. Why do you keep interrupting? >> Dr. Anderson, let him ask this question.

I still got your time to entertain your motion. It's well within our parameters to ask her if she um wants to answer. >> Melissa, do you want to answer? >> Let's hear the question first. The question is this what this amendment is saying that for example if I wanted to send you a email about uh chaparel winning the CIF

basketball tournament I can't do it or if I want to send you a message saying hey Melissa I know the um Ivy's are sending out their acceptance letters this week. Did you get yours? I can't do that. So, I want to know if you agree with this. And if you agree with it, then I agree with it. But if you don't

think it's okay, then I will go with since we're talking about you, I will go with your judgment. >> It's all good. I can read it on the board. Um, thank you for asking. I would just add private social media messaging between trustees and student board member is prohibited unless the student board member gives like explicit permission

>> unless you do it. >> Yes. Which on I don't know. Um I'm on Instagram a lot. I don't know if you guys noticed, but on Instagram um most accounts when other people DM you and you don't follow them, it comes in as a request and you have the ability to accept or deny. So, if I receive any

messages from someone that I do not know or I receive a question from someone that I do not want to answer, I have the ability to decline that request. Um, and I think that it's I think it should be up to the student board member. >> Thank you. >> Thank you, M. >> Thank you, Melissa. >> Okay.

We it's it's very complex because she has two minutes to entertain two items. So I'd really like to get this motion and second out of the way for this one. If you want to ask her a question. We're still on her time. >> I want to ask Melissa. >> If you ask Dr. Anderson. >> Dr. Anderson. I mean uh

>> Dr. >> Dr. Veles. Can I talk to Melissa? That's okay because she is a student board member. That would be Dr. Kroski. >> Dr. Kroski. >> I yield I yield the floor because she's already consented depending on your question. >> Okay. So Melissa, so if you were to remain the student board member, let's say for another

year, you know that I communicate with you on social media. I normally say, "Nice job, Melissa." exclamation point. So this amendment is basically asking us not to communicate that way because when she posts, she posts with intelligence, breath, thoughtfulness, and I just I just want to compliment. I mean, I'm a teacher. I love complimenting students. It's what I do. and and and the extent

of my of my praise from Melissa, which has been criticized, you know, by others in the community is nice job, Melissa. Good job, Melissa. Is that correct? And is that correct? >> That is correct. >> Okay. And you don't mind that, right? >> No. Okay. You actually bring up a good point. If you're done with your question,

>> I'm done. >> Okay. Um, I will also like to clarify that the communications that I have about like regarding the board and like on social media, which I assume like this is what it's referencing, I have a social media account dedicated to my campaign and to being a student board member. And everything I post on there

um directly relates to either my work on this board or academically focused work. And so that's also why on that account I um also have like some like teachers and administrators who follow me but they don't follow my personal Instagram account and people don't also like administrators and teachers and board members don't message me on my personal

account because that is my personal account though I do keep it public and I don't care if people message me but that's my preference but on I would say that if a student board member has an account that they have public and dedicated to their campaign or to their role like many other board members serving on this board have um accounts

that have TVUSD in the username, then I think that that welcomes communication. I also have in my bio that anyone is always um open to DM me and I have stated multiple times that I'm comfortable with people asking me questions and I will refrain from answering if I'm not comfortable with that. >> Okay. Thank you, Miss Chai.

>> Can I ask a question of you Dr. Kamaskki? >> Yes. and you have a minute and 28 and and I want to be respectful of your time because we're on your time and I want to entertain your first motion and second and then get to your second one. >> So, um, some of the student board members are minors, right? Is Dr. Veles,

some of our student board members are minors or considered minors. >> As long as they're a student in the district, yes, even if they're 18, they're still considered a they're still considered under our watch. So, yes. >> Okay. And just that's it. There's ED code and CSBA guidelines around this. So I didn't make >> Thank you, Dr. Anderson. Okay. So I I we

have a motion in a second to approve this additional language. Len, would you mind calling role? >> Wearsma. >> Yes. Anderson, >> yes. >> Barham, >> no. >> Schwarz, >> Kamaroski, >> yes. >> Student board member, >> no. >> Motion adopted 32. >> So uh Dr. Dr. Anderson will entertain your second motion in uh in second if

you're going to propose one on the which item so we can have it >> pulled up. >> Social media monitoring language. It's in um student records 5125. We have language that's very vague and it almost sounds like it's restrictive to principles and site administrators if there was bullying or sexual harassment that happened online. it. The language that we have sounds like the principles

cannot get on social media and use that for records of bullying or harassment, intimidation. So, I want to I just rewrote this so it would clarify the ed code and um let the principles know that they can include topic they they can put these um social media posts in a student's record for disciplinary purposes. So, it just clarifies the

difference between um the what's the word I'm looking for? Um just ga information gathering versus uh monitoring continued monitor surveillance. That's the word I'm looking for. That they don't sur they can't have surveillance, but they can monitor and put or they can put these things in the records. It it's not really political. It's just clarifying. >> Dr. Anderson, are you opposed to run

this by legal if we get consent from the board right now? another uh >> yeah I think it would be good and I think it would be helpful to clarify all this for >> so rather than a motion and a second I I propose on this to run it by legal >> and NCSBA so we have two converging

points of data on this because I want to make sure this is good to vote >> yeah I think so and I think it I do think the policy needs clarified so I would just say that we remove um student records from action item number um 11 until this is reviewed. >> Okay. So, uh would you like to motion

and then see if you can get a second to table this to the me next meeting with we'll see if we can consensus from the majority of the board to have CSBA and legal look at it till the next meeting. >> I just motion for to just to table to postpone 5125 >> and to have legal and CSBA look at it.

>> No. >> Uh yeah. Do I have a second? >> Second discussion. Motion. in the seconds on the table discussion. >> Uh I I don't know if you uh just made a speaking error, but we don't uh amend ED code. I I think you meant amend ED pol uh policy. Dr. Anderson, you said amend the ED code. We we can't amend ED code.

I just clarifying for the record. >> Well taken. >> Second of all, uh I if you want to clarify this, send it to CSBA. I object to spending another penny sending anything to legal. CSBA is the expert on policies. We don't have to have the lawyers look at it. Just send it to CSBA. That's what they do. They have a

whole policy division. Her name is Jennifer Santos. Jet Santos at csba.org. I have spoken to her many times. It's free. We do not have to send it to legal and spend of our taxpayer money on something that we can get for free. Okay, I'm gonna I'm gonna ask Len to call roll to to v vote this motion and

second in so we can entertain other board members two minutes comments because we're not going through each item two minutes and two minutes and that's what this is divulging into. >> Yeah, but but yeah, but this is the this is the thing though. This is your time and it's a two-minute round for all of these and another two-minute round. So,

I'm trying to keep us on track cuz it looks like it's going to divulge into two minutes plus two minutes on each individual item. That's what I don't want to do. You okay? >> All right. All right. >> Okay. The the only thing that I would like to >> I mean I think we're devolving or evolving into a pattern

that we have seen before. I think that we should send these things to CSBA first, come back again for another read, and if we're struggling with the language after CSBA looks at it, then we can send it to legal. I mean, that's what we were doing when Dr. Anderson was president before we started going nuts with sending everything to legal. I mean,

that's what we were doing and it was working. So, I'm proposing that we just send this to CSBA first because our legal bills are escalating again. I can see it happening. >> Okay. Uh, point well taken. So, give me one second. Dr. Anderson, you're the only one that could amend this emotion. Do you want to amend it to drop the

lawyer and send it to CSBA and bring it back? And then if we want legal to look at it after that next meeting, we can take a vote then. >> Yeah. I was just trying to add clarity to a very vague unclear language in our policy. So you guys, if you want to leave it all murky, >> what I'm what I'm asking though for you

specifically is do you want to amend the motion to just run this by CSP? >> Yeah, let's send it to CSP. >> Okay, so she's amended the motion and I second it. >> I agree. >> All right, Len, would you mind taking role? >> I have a question. >> Oh, okay. Mrs. V. So when I called CSBA

a while back to question them in terms of policy, what they told me is you don't pay for the legal and they didn't give me an actual opinion. If they have a policy, we have access to that and we can see it. But they weren't clarifying any legal counsel whatsoever. So is there something I'm missing in the

equation of what you all think can be accomplished in sending it to CSBA? >> Yes, obviously. because it's they don't do it for free and they said we're not subscribed to whatever it is legally >> where they would offer that >> legal is the go ahead you're >> No it's okay I don't want to say anymore >> I already I'm sorry can I clarify please

>> okay >> sure you're talking about two different things one is legal and one is policy CSBA revises our policies and revises board policy periodically If this is a board policy 5125 and we want to amend it, we send it to them. They look at the policy and they send it back with the amendments that are appropriate

different than sending it to CSBA legal. So those are two separate two separate things. >> Yes. And we have a motion in a second to do just that. And let me remind the board too on the last meeting I asked the board if you have any edits please send them in. We received no edits. So, this is real time on the spot now. So,

we're trying to work through this >> the best that we can. So, Len, would you please uh call roll? >> Yes. Anderson? >> Yes. >> Barham? >> Schwarz? >> Kamaroski? >> Student board member? >> Yes. >> Motion adopted 5-0. See this next meeting after CSBA. Additional language is added. Now, we are we still have >> I have two minutes.

>> I'll call on Mr. Barham for his two minutes and eventually we're going to sweep vote the rest of these in if we can. >> Okay. So, >> um, >> looking at, um, graduation ceremonies, there was some concerns from the middle school that if an eighth grader had a cumulative GPA from grade six to grade 8 below 2.0,

that that student would not walk in the ceremonies or would not be allowed to go have fun at Knottberry Farm, those types of things. Um, so there were cons some concerns about that. So Mrs. Davis and I, we talked and we shot it back to the principles. I'm going to turn this over to her if that's okay,

Dr. Bles, to let her know the results of that. And uh, I like what what came out of the principles um, with Mrs. Deis. It's the way it should be. It's like policy comes from the bottom up. I like that. instead of from the top down. I think it works better that way. Um, and it keeps us out

of lawsuits. So, Mrs. Dis, I'm going to turn that over to you. >> Yes. Uh, thank you. Is that okay, Dr. Veles? Okay. Um, I think what you're referencing is the second part of the graduation board policy or regulation has some information about middle school requirements for both extracurricular end ofear activities and the ability to participate in the actual ceremony

itself. So, thank you for giving us some time to engage in a collaborative review with our middle school principles. I wanted to just update that the team affirmed that the existing language regarding academic or behavior eligibility um should be maintained, but the beauty of the conversation was the collaboration and cons consensus of the importance of strengthening the early

identification and intervention systems that we use for our eighth graders. So, schools will start uh and continue to provide structured support plans, clear and ongoing parent communication, opportunities for students to demonstrate effort and improvement, and reviewing of established process with their site teams. In fact, if you're an eighth grader right now who's in danger of not walking in the ceremony our

eighth graders promote, you know, and our parents are working in communication and concert with our sites regarding that. So throughout the work, student care remains central. We don't think there needs to be a change to that portion of the board policy and we look forward to maintaining high expectations, but ensuring meaningful supports are in place for every student.

>> Can I just ask Mrs. Deis to make I think she left something out. >> You still have a little bit of time because it was yielded to her. So we can >> Mrs. status. So, can you please clarify the new GPA requirement to be able to I don't think you said what the >> the GPA requirement remains the same um

as it's stated in the regulation outlined here with the 2.0. Uh but we are looking at processes in place for intervention and support plans for students so that there is a chance for those based on site agreement if they need to work harder to get up to that point or an alternate plan can be put in place where students can demonstrate

their efforts even if a 2.0 might not be in the near future based on some earlier circumstances with their grades. So they can figure it out in the eighth grade even though their GPA was below a 1.0 or I think it's below a 1.0. They can still figure it out in the eighth grade and still walk. >> They have an opportunity to work with

their administration and counseling teams to put together support plans to develop something that might be unique for th that student. And that would be something that we continue to operate um that our middle schools are doing with a level of fidelity and will continue to do. >> Okay. >> So, yes. >> Yeah. So, yeah. I just want to make sure

because >> your six bar I'm going to I'm going to keep us on track. We got to move along. Yeah. I'm going to call on Mrs. Worman next. If if you're ready. So, with where we've landed at this point, the additional ad that I would have is BP1445 and BP 5145.13. >> Slow [snorts] down. Um, it's getting

late. Please, what was that again? >> So, it's BP1445. response. >> That is the response and it is replacing 5145.13. As I've done the homework on this and talked to a variety of trustees, there is some differing opinion in what is needed legally. And I know we've talked about CSBA being the beacon and the guiding light of policy. In some aspects

they are and we do rely on them for a number of things but they definitely have a bias in some topics and policies. And what I would like to do with these is actually run them by legal because there's some debate in terms of extraverbiage whether it's needed or not. And so I just want to be cautious

with this one. Continue to move forward recognizing what we support and what's important to do as per ED code and so forth. But because in my study I found differing opinions that I would like to put a pause on and continue to work. >> Okay. And just to give you a point of clarity too, DeMarco's already looked at

this and he said these are good to go. So I'm just just just for clarity sake, Dr. has already run the immigration policy through. So, it might be a mute point to run it by legal again, but go ahead. Go ahead. I didn't mean to interrupt. I just wanted to let you know. >> So, my point on that would be him

looking at it and saying, "Is this good to go?" That would be an easy place to go. But in terms of editing or giving additional verbiage in terms of how we're going to personalize it as a district in supporting federal agents and what they might need to do in addition to supporting families and students is a different factor alto

together. So it's one thing to look at it and give that and I never saw a synopsis nor an email from the lawyer and if I had I would have asked an additional question or two. So I'm not saying this is a no-go for forever. I'm saying I think there could be additional clarification before I would vote it

through. >> You can vote now. >> So, do you have a motion? Do can you make a motion in a second then? >> So, I would like to make >> very specific. Yeah. >> I would like to make a motion to table BP 1445 and bring it back for the next meeting which I believe is March 10th.

>> And that's that's the only item. >> That's the only item. and and have legal review it which they've already done. No, I'm trying to get the motion. You want to bring it back? Oh, you just want input that you can >> I have a whole page of notes that I took with a couple of trustees and people

today. And what I would like to do is ask some clarifying questions that go beyond I looked at it good to go because I think there's more insight there to explore. >> I'll second that and then if we get if we get the votes you can work with Dr. VeZ and then we can bring it back next

meeting. All right. Y >> Okay. and any other trustee. We can bring this back and and accept feedback on it. All right. VeZ or sorry, Len, would you mind calling ro? >> Where's my >> Yes. Anderson? >> Yes. Barham >> to push this item to the next meeting. Mr. Schwarz, >> the the >> I'm sorry. Just the motion is to table

this to the next meeting. >> Sending it back to legal again. >> No. So, >> I'm just excuse me. [clears throat] I just want to clarify. >> What is to what I just went through? >> You said you want to table it and bring it back so that you can have input into it based on information that you've

garnered in the past. Correct. >> I don't think we voted or I don't think the motion in the second was for legal. It was to bring it back. And I'm just trying to clarify anything legal already answered, she will know and communicate that fine then. And then if >> got >> next meeting we decide we need more

legal then we can then >> and so all of us all of us then can re-examine this policy and we can all ask other trustee other trustees from other districts as Mrs. Weisma has for input and we can modify it. >> Just follow through Dr. Thank you. Okay. And it's your vote. >> Yes. >> I was on Barham.

>> Oh, >> sorry. >> Okay. Thank you. Schwarz. >> Yes. >> Kamroski. >> Student board member. >> Motion adopted. 5-0. Okay. >> Thank you. And we've accepted comments from Dr. Anderson, Mr. Barham, Mrs. Wearsma, Mr. Schwarz. Your two minutes. >> No, I'm done. Thank you. Okay, >> I want to >> I'm done as well. Oh, excuse me. Excuse

me. I actually want to comment on graduation. I want to add something. See if I get a mo. Uh, I'll move and see if I get a second. And I know this will come back to the next meeting. Oh, excuse me. Um, correction. We're not on the information reports. This is a second reading. I want to add

um if you can pull this up for me please Len on graduation we can I can form this language. I want to add that if a trustee wants to a trustee can give a 1 to three minute speech at a high school graduation. We are elected officials. We are elected amongst the peers of our community. Each one of the

board members should if they want to be able to speak one to three minutes. Middle school 1 to two minutes. a motivational speech encouraging our young leaders when they leave the you know when they go from middle school to high school you know the transition or when they're leaving high school graduation out into the world we should

be able to give those motivational speeches and I can form that language as such to where if a trustee I don't know maybe Len can help me on the spot if a trustee wants to give a speech they have the right one to three minutes at a high school if there are two trustees. Each one of them have

the right to do this, but the second trustee that is accepting the class speaks last because they're accepting the class. And the middle school one to two minutes. I move for that. Do I have a second? >> I will second that. >> Can I just give comment while she types it up? One of one of my concerns is that this

policy was written with several site administrators like um there were principles, vice principles, board members and cabinet there. So I need to think about it. Can can you write can we adopt it now and then you could bring the adopted policy back and amend amend it later? I'm open for bringing it back to the next meeting and I can amend my motion,

but if I get the votes, I'd like to vote it in now. >> I have >> and each trustee, we have the option to work with the principal at the site and look at their own mission statements and formulate that motivating language. So, I'm up for tableabling it to the next meeting for board members to consider it

or we could take a vote right now. [sighs and gasps] Uh, can I finish my graduations with ceremonies was agendaized so everyone had time? I I think we should bring it back because I can't support it right now. Um, I need to I need to consider it. So, could we bring it back? >> I'll amend the motion to bring it back.

Each board member consider that giving a speech at a graduation. >> I'll second that. >> All right. We have a second. Len, would you mind calling ro? I'm sorry. What is the motion? >> The motion is to table this to the next meeting and each board member consider whether they want to give a speech on graduation, high school, middle school.

>> That's it. And we we could think about it, you know. >> I mean, I I I I understand. I mean, I'm >> I I like the idea, but can I I know you want to bring it back. Can I just ask Mrs. Deis something on this policy? I'm >> You got to ask Dr. Veles to ask.

>> Can I Can I ask her something on on this policy? >> On the graduation policy for high school? >> Yes. Yeah. >> I mean, >> if we can if we can make it >> I'm going to make it very quick. >> So, Mrs. Davis, question for you. >> Question >> because we're going to bring this back

considering Dr. Kamaroski and what he wants to do at graduation. And we had talked about very briefly the principles kind of struggling with what we came up with in the fall regarding the whole process in choosing speakers and that sort of thing since Dr. Kamroski wants to bring you know he wants to entertain that motion which I'm all about. Should we maybe at

that time before we adopt this talk about some of the struggles that the administrators are having in the high schools regarding how to choose their student speakers? Because we we talked about this in the fall, but Mrs. Deis was saying that the principles were kind of struggling with this. So, in addition to entertaining what Dr. Kamroski wants

to bring back with regard to this motion. Should we maybe talk about those struggles at the same time before we adopt this? >> I want to say that our high school principles do a really good job of following policy. So what's in policy, our principles will follow. I also want to say having planned a few high school

graduations in my career, those are timed down to the second and uh the priority is typically to engage as many student speakers as possible. If this is something that we're going to bring back, I appreciate that it's coming to another meeting because I think it will be important to have conversations surrounding it >> by the principles. >> All right. Thank you.

[cheering and applause] And to and to clarify, I have heard board members in other districts speak at graduations and I thought we're elected problem with what you're saying. >> I would just recommend that before we make it policy, we run it by the high school principles >> and see what they have to say and then bring it back.

>> Well, we're going to bring it back next meeting if we >> I don't mind bringing back the discussion, but I don't think we should make a decision without consulting the principles since they're going to be the >> Mrs. Deis made it clear the principles follow board policy. You are aware too that we dictate board [snorts] policy.

We are elected governing officials. This is within our purview. But there's one point you made, Mrs. Dis, and I'm really glad you make it down to the very second. So that helps me not say 1 to 3 minutes. It's either one, two, or three. A very specific time and not iffy because it's down to the second. So that

kind of input already helped. >> Can I just make one comment? >> No. Can I make a motion? Cuz he's had way more time to speak. >> All right, then. Let's just call this to vote. >> We have We already have a motion to second to table. >> Yeah, I second to table it. >> Good. Let's call it.

>> Okay. Where? >> Yes. Anderson, yes. Barham, >> yes. >> Schwarz, >> no. >> Kamroski, >> Student board member, >> yes. >> Motion adopted, 4 to one. We'll see this next meeting. Get some input. Board members, please think about it. uh reorder the agenda for com. >> Oh gosh, that was wishful thinking. Oh my god. Um all the other um policies, if

there's no board discussion, I can entertain a motion in a second to sweep those in and vote and then I'm going to recommend that we take a break and then start information reports. >> Are we are we doing action on those policies? >> Yeah, the rest of them. >> I move to adopt those policies >> except for the one that

>> except for the one that we ta I just made the motion. >> Mr. Schwarz motion that we have a second by Mr. Barham. Len, would you mind calling ro? Sure. All remaining board policies are being voted in with one voice with one vote to be clear. >> Where's >> Yes. Anderson, >> yes. Barham, >> yes. >> Schwarz,

>> Kamroski, >> Student board member, >> Motion adopted, five to zero. Thank you. And we are on to the final action item before information reports. >> We tabled it. Number 12, >> reorder the agenda for comments. >> We put it aside. >> We did not >> We didn't put it aside. >> We did not We did not table that.

>> We did not table that. >> Okay. So, Le, would you mind pulling this up and I'll let Whis >> We have three public comments. >> Okay. [clears throat] >> First up is Carolyn Thomas followed by Kelly Maxi. >> Good evening. I believe we all want the same thing, a board meeting that's efficient, productive, and gets everyone

home at a decent hour. [snorts] For years, I've watched the public comments first structure fall short. Citizens stand up to voice frustrations or ask questions that are then addressed in detail by staff reports many hours later after they have already left the room. Conversely, when we put public comments at the very end of the night, they're often presented to an empty room and

require constituents and employees to stay very late on a work night. We have been trapped in this eitheror debate. They're first or they're last. Comments first, comments last. And as I read the agenda proposed, I was really pleased to see Trusty Wearsma's out of the box thinking proposal, which offers a necessary compromise. Place information reports at the very beginning of the

meeting and then follow them by public comments. In this way, we ensure a better informed public. We want our public to know what's happening in our district. Increased efficiency and true accessibility. This is that Goldilock zone. Not too early for working parents to arrive and not so late that they have to stay until midnight. [snorts] I do

understand your desired trustee Kamaroski for early participation by placing comments at the beginning, but that does sometimes prioritize performative speech over substance. Participation isn't meaningful if the public hasn't heard the valuable staff information that informs them by our wonderful executive staff here and provides updates relevant to our district's business. Students first, school business first. Transpar transparency isn't just handing someone

a microphone. It's ensuring that they have all the facts before they speak. Moving comments to the very beginning is a myth of accessibility. It doesn't help the parents or employees who need to finish work or feed their children dinner. If we want informed decision-making, we must first inform through our information reports the stakeholders. Let's choose clarity over

in efficiency. Please support Trusty Wisma's agenda item to reorder the agenda to place information reports first and immediately follow them by public comments. [applause] Next up is Kelly Maxi followed by Sarah Bell. >> Good evening, Miss Wisma. I'm here tonight to speak about your agenda item regarding the reordering of public comments. I want to start by saying that I appreciate this

idea. I think adjusting the order could give more people a fair chance to share their voices. However, with that said, I do have concerns about the second part of your proposal to add an electronic component for comments. I understand the goal of making participation more accessible, but I worry that it might make it harder for the board to stay

focused and productive during meetings. Clearly, this is something that the board already struggles with. So, adding another layer of input could make that even more difficult. If however the electronic component option is included in the action item tonight, I'd like to suggest a few amendments for the board to consider before it's voted upon. First, electronic submissions should be limited

to people directly connected to our district. Students, parents, guardians of enrolled students, district employees, and residents of taxpayers within district boundaries should be included. Submissions should include a name, address, and a connection to the district. This ensures we're hearing from the community you were elected to represent, not from people who have no stake in our schools. Second, email

should relate directly to district business or items on the public's agenda. We don't need our meetings sidetracked by personal grievances, rumors, or unrelated claims. This will help keep discussions on track and centered on what truly affects our students and schools. Third, the review process should be handled by district staff, not by individual board members. Submissions should go to a designated

district email and the superintendent, board secretary, or another neutral administrator should screen them using clearly adopted criteria. That would help ensure fairness and transparency and avoid any perception that particular voices are being amplified. Lastly, you should consider reasonable time limits like word count or maximum number of emails read aloud because we certainly don't need any more unnecessary time added to these

meetings. Thank you for considering these points. As board members, you should strive to hear the voices of all of your community members. However, this proposal, as it's currently written, needs more guard rails to ensure that it is equitable, orderly, and reflective of our community. Thank you. >> [applause] >> Hi. Um, I also really appreciated this, um, reordering of the agenda items. I,

many of us have witnessed, I mean, many of us stay until the end or as late as I possibly can. Um, and for me, the hardest part is actually watching the district staff give their information at reports at like 10 or 11:00 at night. Um, so I'm glad to see a proposal that addresses that. Um, I have the same

concern about the e comments. Um, just the burden that it will bring to you guys of additional information that you need to read. Um, when that same information can be sent already to you over email or um, through the Let's Talk platform. it just seems like it's adding another thing for you to do. Um my real concern is the general public

comment and you know just the shift in how it's been discussed. Um as the other speaker said, there's no single placement um that's going to work, but putting it after information and reports um could possibly work. But my concern goes above the agenda order and it's a shift um in how the public participation is being addressed. So like one example um if we go back to

last year um like trustee Kamaskki there was September 9th 2025 meeting it was an agenda item that was established no board action would take and you strongly supported allowing all nine speakers for the full 3 minutes. Um, but now at the meeting earlier this month, the conversation shifted towards a very limited uh general speaking uh time of

30 minutes. And so I'm concerned about the change in consistency there, access to public speaking, like what changed? What happened to that expectation and the commitment to hearing from everyone? Like why did that change now that you're board president? The district has experienced the consequences in the past during your board presidency of restricting public comment, diminished trust, heightened conflict, and lasting

damage that the board majority created. And those outcomes are harmful. And so I just want to say that that should serve as a clear caution when you're making this decision to go forward. Um, my concern is not so much where you put them, but how you put them and how you um, you know, address and hear from the

public. Um, because we do sacrifice to be here because it's important to us. Thank you. [applause] >> I can go first. You can go first. >> I'd like to um go first. I'd like to clarify. So, there's two options that could be a merge. Uh mine is to have stu uh sorry mine is to have public comments then board comments

then consent calendar. All I'm doing is giving you the context. I don't need to list the entire agenda. It's it's the same. I'm just shifting public and board up. And I'm going to motion to remove the student comments but prioritize student speakers in public comments which the board has always done. In fact, we have a color-coded sheet that

lets us know if a student is speaking. And in the past meetings, we've always prioritized them. This student comment section was never voted into a bylaw. It was added to the agenda back in February of last year. So, it actually can be removed since it was officially never codified into a bylaw. So, that's my that's my request. And then, let me just

address something else. It's never the board president who decides the time. And the time per speaker, it's the majority of the board. That's always how we worked. We assess how many speakers there are, how many minutes we want to take, and is it two minutes, one minute, three minutes. And recall, I don't think I've ever wanted anybody to speak for a

minute. It's just too fast. That's been my track record. Uh sometimes it's two minutes, sometimes it's three minutes. That's a majority of the board that decides that, not one person. So that can be flexible meeting to meeting depending on how late it is. For example, last time the meeting, I think board com or public comments happened at

10 or 11. It was so late. So, the majority of the board said, "All right, we're going to go down to two minutes." That's not me. That's the majority of the board. So, um I will let Jen take over that, but that's my suggestion. I'll call for a motion in a second to to have public comments at the beginning of

the meeting, which I've advocated for my entire time on this board, and then board comments and then consent. >> Joseph, can I Virginia. >> Sure. Mrs. Worma, I yield my time. Now it's Mrs. Worma. So ultimately the board has to figure out what kind of motion and second we want to have. >> I want to thank the speakers who just

commented. I really appreciate your insight and I've had several conversations with people in the public and it's been helpful because I think what we want to do is compromise and meet in the middle which is why I'm for having the public general comments in the middle. I think it makes sense. We don't have it at the beginning or at the

end but kind of a midpoint. So that is why I advocated for that and thank you to those who have had conversations with me. In terms of the e comment, I understand the concern there that came through watching the San Diego County Board of Supervisors and seeing how they operate. There are many people who don't want to come to the meetings. They

cannot make the time and that's understandable. But if there's a link on our page where the TVUSD agenda can be accessed, it would be an easy thing for them to click on to have a form. And I absolutely agree. It should not be anonymous. They should state who they are with important information. I agree with Mrs. Maxi that the amount of words

should be limited. And I too don't want to see staff burdened. However, I think there's a way to do this where what I would like to tell parents is please when you see a board agenda drop, go ahead and make a comment on the Google form. It's short. It's sweet. We can review it before we go to the day that

evening. I just want to accommodate everyone. >> You have more time. She was actually on mine and I was going to make an emotion in a second. Jen, we're going to give you more time. >> So, I don't know at what point you jumped into my time. We didn't reset your timer. >> That's fine. I think I'm about done. I

just want everyone to understand that the goal is to hear as many people as possible and not have e- comments weaponized. That's not a hill that I'm going to die on. I'm just trying to get more people in the conversation. In terms of the board comments, I'd like to keep that at the end so that the community actually hears from us um kind

of to wrap a bow around it and we can always send that out onto social media and beyond for those that know it's late. But I would rather reserve my board comment for the end versus doing it right at the beginning or midpoint. Thank you. >> Okay. So, I'm going to yield the floor to Dr. Anderson, but I'm going to make a

motion in a second. And and if we don't get a second, it dies. I'm going to motion to bring public comments to the beginning of the meeting, then board comments, then superintendent comments with eliminating student comments, but they get filtered into the public comments prioritized. You're first students. You always have been. So that's my motion. Do I have a second?

>> Can you say it again so I can write it down? >> Exactly what you're looking at right here except for the addition to after board comments, superintendent comments. So it'll say it'll say public comments, board comments, superintendent comments, consent calendar. That's my motion. >> Wait, >> public comments. Public comments is not working. So, I public comments,

>> okay? >> Then board comments. You can look up there. You can look at this. >> I'm looking at Jen's thing and I'm trying to do this. >> Okay. Public then board >> then superintendent. >> No, in the very beginning >> Dr. actually commented to me that if this gets moved, she wants to have board comment or her comments right after

board comments. Okay. And it might get shot down, but that's my motion. Do I have a second? >> No. [laughter] >> Okay. There's no second. Good. >> Can Can I make another proposal? >> Kind of a hybrid. >> Uh first, Dr. Kamaskki, can I have two minutes to explain why they are the way they are? Is that okay?

>> It's your two minutes. >> Okay, it's my two minutes. So I moved public comments to the very end. It was sort of liability protection so I didn't have to throw people out of the move meeting. I could move them to the end when their comments weren't gerine and also to prioritize comments that were related to business. But I'm open to

switching it. I added student comments without anyone's permission. When I made the agenda, I made a special place for student comments because I didn't want them to stay up really late at night waiting till the end. So, I would support doing away with student comments now that they don't have to stay up late. Doing recognitions, student organization, information and reports,

public comments, action board comments, and and superintendent comments, and then future agenda. So, everything like Jen did, but remove student comments. And I think that was the only change. Is that the only change I just said? Yeah. So, I'm okay doing it the way that Jen has it if we rem because I just added that no one really approved it. That was

just something I did. But I don't I think that we're risking interfering with the meeting. So, we don't need that anymore because they aren't going to stay up past their bedtime. So, I would move to accept Jen's policy minus student general comments. And wait, I had one question about are we going to read all of these out during

the meeting? No, it's just to read privately. Okay, then I would I would accept this policy written minus student general comments. >> Okay, that's what you're motioning for. Is there a second? >> And add superintendent comments after board comments. >> So board comments and superintendent comments are at the end. Okay. Um, and so essentially, Jen, you're putting

public comments in the middle of the meeting. That's what you desire. If Dr. If we get a motion, a second. >> That is what I would second. >> All right. So, Dr. Anderson, you have a motion. She seconded it. >> We can we can discuss this motion in second now. >> So, I'm just trying to understand you

want to remove the general student comments. Is that what this motion is? Yeah, but but specifically incorporate them into the public comments prioritized. >> Oh, I kind of like my policy that I that I put that I voted on but that was voted down. Yes, absolutely. >> I understand. I do find myself treading in strange waters cuz when I read this

uh proposal that Mrs. Wearsman made, it makes perfect sense to me. I like [clears throat] everything. I like putting the comments in the middle so that people who come late can be there. people who come early can speak. I I don't like taking out the section on student comments, but if that's if if that's going to get this passed, then I

will uh agree to uh what she said. Take out that prioritize student comments and general comments and take out that other student comment uh area. So, I vote yes. >> Stage, but I hear what you're saying. Uh Mr. Barham. >> So, does this include does this motion include the e comments? >> It includes the e comments. >> I didn't hear e comments. Or did it?

>> I didn't. >> Yes, it did. I said policy as written with the e comments. >> E comments. >> You just get to read them. You don't get out. >> Okay. As long as the e comments >> I'll verify that >> come with Mrs. Max's >> provide. Yeah. As [clears throat] long as those e comments and Mrs. Wearsman

seems to agree with [snorts] that. As long as as long as the e comments come with Mrs. Max's recommendations, I like this. Um, and I think it's re not only do I think it's important that public comments come in the middle, but I think it's really important that information comes before action >> because information informs action and

information means we get to hear from our staff on educational matters. And that that's what I'm looking for. That's what I've always looked for. and and in the previous administration I think it was like that but Dr. Kamaskka you like information different which is fine but I think it's important information informs action public comments in the middle board comments at

the end superintendent comments at the end after you hear everything that's going on in the meeting um to get it past student comments in public comments but students prioritized I'm getting a yes out there. So, I'm for this. As long as Mrs. Max's recommendations are incorporated into the e comments, I'm going to vote yes. >> Okay. So, we're on first round.

Everybody's spoken. We're on second round up. Okay. Yes, Miss Ch. >> Yeah. I'm trying to deliberate to see if I spoke. Yes. on presenting, but I yield anyway. So, yes, Miss Chro, you're up. >> Um, for e- comments, what what makes what would make that system different from like the existing systems that we already have to like receive comments

about things online >> cuz I don't I don't know exactly like what we already have. So, I just wanted to know. >> That is a great question. I think when I let the community know you need to go here to look at the agenda, people like convenience and so if they see you click here for the agenda and you click here

to go ahead and submit your e comment, that's helpful. They could send an email, but sometimes it's complicated because you have to spell it out and they have to remember it. So, I just think if you've got it really simple for people, here's the agenda, go ahead and submit it. I'm good for all the parameters that Mrs. Maxi mentioned. It

makes it simplified and it's just one more aspect of the community being able to get in touch. >> And those e-commerce would be available to all the board members. >> They would have until 12 p.m. the day of the meeting. It would be available and there would be copies in the back if people want to look through it. We're

not reading them out loud in the meeting. Um it doesn't take the place of general public comments and they're not all written into the record, but they are available. So it's for us to see those additional people. >> Okay. Gotcha. Yeah. I was just wondering like if someone were to send an email to like an individual board member about

like a comment that they would want to make like would you would that board member be like required or to like direct them to like the e- comment section or is that like >> I don't know if it would be required but it could definitely be a suggestion and I think if we incorporate it we'll see how it it goes but people will talk and

they'll know that that's one way they can submit. I know so many folks who would prefer >> to send us something and not have to sit and and be here. So, >> okay, sounds good. Thank you. >> I have a clarifying question for Dr. Vez. Would this burden the staff with these e comments since we already have

email and any member of the public can email all five board members and including the superintendent. So, I feel like this is a redundancy. That's just me. But I want to ask a clarifying question if I may. Does this put an undue burden on staff? I do think that there is an impact on staff in regards to um public comment or

coming in as e- comment. Um it's not currently something that we do. Um we will obviously go with if this is something that the board so desires um that they that you want to do. I do want to acknowledge the fact that there probably is going to be a staffing impact. In addition to that, I would also like to make sure that there's

clarity in regards to the e- comments that there can necessarily because it is being construed as a public comment there can't necessarily be any individual action by any board member in regard to that e-ublic comment. >> Clarifying question to you, doctor. >> Give me a second. Was was your time, Miss Worma? Yeah, you did. You did 2

minutes and 2 minutes. I'm trying to respect the rotations, keep us on track, Mr. Barham, I don't have you for a second two-minute round. >> Well, I get it. I get one. >> Yeah. So, how do you feel about Dr. Veza's response? I'm just curious that it it would be a burden. I mean, you asked the question.

You don't have to answer. I'm just asking because I think that it should be considered. >> I'm flexible with what the board wants on this. I'm going to vote no on this because I want public comments in the beginning and I've stayed true to that. But >> um I I disagree with the e comments. There's just there's email. It's a

redundancy. >> Mrs. Weman, can I ask you? >> Yes. And how about this? This might be an option. What if we put something to click on on the agenda page that somehow easily gives them the ability to send an email? Maybe that's something to consider. Again, this isn't the hill to die on, but San Diego County Board of

Supervisors and other groups do this all the time. A Google form is free. It's really an easy way to do it, but if we can link an email, >> I'd rather do that. >> Could they just fine, too? >> I'm sorry. Could they just email us like they do now and we will we'll get the comments. It'll come directly to us. It

won't burden the staff. >> And um I mean, I get email comments all the time before board meetings. okay, >> from people and I respond or not depending on who it is, but at least [snorts] we at least it comes directly to us. So I I agree with Dr. Valz. I don't want Mrs. Anna Seabar to have to

go through uh 500 comments and print them. It's going to be a re it's going to be a burden on people and and I don't think it's fair. So I I think the policy could be that they email us directly. just just clear. >> That's fine. If that's how the board majority feels, I'm fine with that. Um I

I really think >> if if we can have something on that agenda page that eases that process for people. I just know folks intimidated to put in all the email addresses and all that. Put the email addresses on the page. >> You guys were speaking over each other. I just I want >> But the conversation's good though.

>> Yeah. I I want Dr. Wiz to speak. But but here's a point of clarity. You just can't put something on a page. That's an IT platform. can't just say let's put it on there to where somebody emails unless somebody magically can. You're talking about an IT software platform. >> You got to be very careful when you

>> but districts do it. That's where I pulled the examples. >> Yeah. Okay. So, I'm just saying if we can. So, it's a point of clarity, but Dr. Veles want to add something to the conversation that might help. >> So, um Jen, I really appreciate or Miss Wema, I really appreciate you kind of bringing that up. we can and if you can

allow us the two weeks until March 10th to work with IMS to determine if on the agenda we can make sure that if you choose to reach out to board members and have here's the addresses and maybe what we can do and um I know Mr. Romero's in the back. But if we click on this, then we can automatically get an email

generated to board members. So, we can I'll work with IMS over the course of the next couple weeks to see what we can do to be able to bring that out rather than a separate form, something that automatically would go to board members. >> That's fine. Okay. Can we >> Can I amend my pol Can I amend my

>> Dr. Anderson? You may amend your motion. You brought it forward. >> Okay. I'm going to amend the motion. Then we'll keep the same order minus the e comment part. We're going to work on it. We can bring it back as a policy. So I amend my motion to have Mrs. Wearsma's comment order. There's one thing that we

need and that is I do think the board president needs to have the ability to sometimes switch action and information. So, if we can just add one line that the board president >> I'd rather it be by consent by majority board. Not up to me. Majority board. >> Sometimes I feel like >> not up to me. Majority board because

I'll set the agenda based upon the board and how we vote. I don't want to have unilateral power to maneuver that. That's the majority. >> Make changes to the agenda. Is that what you're saying? >> Yeah. During the meeting live, the majority of the board can decide right there to move items. So, I motion to accept um Jen's proposal of order minus

e comments and minus student general comments. Do I have a second? >> Second. >> Lana, would you mind calling ro >> yes Anderson? >> Yes. Barham, >> oh yes. >> Schwarz, >> Kamaroski, >> no. But I will go along with the board majority. I'm a diehard. I want public comments in the beginning. >> Oh, sorry. >> Accept the majority vote.

>> Forgive me, Dr. Koski. >> Oh, she she answered. >> Motion adopted four to one. >> Moving along. All right. Do I have board approval? >> Five. >> Five to 10. I >> five minute. Here we go. >> a report. Does anybody have any questions? Please remember online. >> Okay, I'm going to start the meeting. One, two. It's going to go super fast.

>> Okay. Okay. So, we're on toformational reports. Vapa overview TK12. If the audience can please seat themselves. >> Oh my gosh. >> [snorts] >> Okay, we're on to VAPA overview TK12. Do we have any board comments? >> No. >> No public comments, bud. >> No. Do we we don't have public comments? Do we have board comments? >> I have no comments. Mr. Schwarz, do you

have a comment >> on what? I'm sorry. >> We're on VAPA overview TK12. >> No, I love VAPA. I don't have any public comments, but I want to hear it. >> We don't have public comments. >> No. Oh, >> Mr. Barham's not present, so we can move to the ex uh the next item. We're not taking action on this. It's just

information reports. >> Okay. >> We're on item two, first read of the new or amended board policies, administrative regulations, exhibits, and board bylaws. Um on this one, >> we have a few public comments on this one. >> Oh, we do. Okay. Sorry. We'll take the public comments. four. >> Okay. >> Okay. First up is followed by Jeff.

>> Jeff. Jeff. >> Oh, okay. Sorry. So, no Jeff. Um, then Caroline Hoffman. >> Um, >> she's in the bathroom with her daughter who does not feel safe to go to the restroom by herself. So, I think we can give her a little >> Please start the time. Thank you, Lynette. >> Oh, we love to start Caroline's time. We

don't love to listen. Um, so basically, um, I'm just wondering if if Emil is going to get naming rights for this, um, board policy about, uh, student interactions because we all know that's that's the reason it was implemented. Um, are are community members not allowed to be um, mentors to students anymore? Like, I would think that if

somebody sits on the board, they'd actually be a really good mentor. So, it's just funny to me that they uh that they're not letting them. So, now OP's back. I'm good. >> Yeah. You were first. >> Okay. Oop. Which one is this? Okay. Yeah. Um I'm going to begin by saying student safety is non-negotiable. Protecting students from coercion,

exploitation, harassment or misuse of authority should be a shared value across this board. This is not partisan and it should not be controversial. However, governance policy must be written carefully and precisely. Board members are elected officials, not district employees. Policies that are overly broad or vague can create constitutional concerns, enforcement ambiguity, and unintended consequences. This draft also blends together two very

different categories. I'm talking about the code of ethics actually. [snorts] The draft also blends two very different categories of conduct. It mixes general ethical expectations such as maintaining professional boundaries with the allegations of serious misconduct like bribery, quid proco exchanges or sexual exploitations. These are not simply ethics issues. These are if they occur, these are legal issues and law

enforcement needs to be involved immediately. There is no censure motion or loosely drafted policy language for this. And we when we are handing out censure resolutions like Halloween candy, they kind of lose meaning at that point. And when we ignore bylaws drop whenever they're convenient, uh, agree to a professional code of conduct while on the board and chitchat

while other people are talking, then what's the point of having all these bylaws, board policies when we choose to ignore them whenever it's inconvenient for us. There's there's no point like we spend a lot of time debating these and all of that. I remember go undergoing this training at work once. It was a sexual harassment training. A lawyer

came to give give the training and basically he gave the training was two sentences don't be an idiot and that was about it and like read all the directions that are given over here you guys keep on adding these things and then you behave like petty toddlers all of you this code of ethics and all of these

these are very high egalitarian values you guys are not even doing the basics >> true >> basic respect is lacking over here ethics and all of that these are nice words to use make it sound like you know very superior or very egalitarian but you guys are like missing out on the basics discussing all of this like you know and

when you're like your intent is never clear what are you trying to achieve in that previous policy where you're like hey social media private messaging ban that does not stop anybody from publicly commenting on anything so I don't know what the goal of that previous policy was and what you achieved out of it and you're putting out like really broad

things like digital messaging like you know there's I've I've read through I' I've been really busy I haven't had the time but like you are not creating any clarity you're creating more ambiguity our school district is not that special there are other places also where things like the same things happen there are like standard policies start over there

and if there's a special need in the district then add to it we do not need new policies just be basic good humans >> [applause] >> Next speaker, >> last speaker is JenR. >> Good evening. >> So, we don't need a policy to maintain proper distance. What I honed in on the last meeting was Mrs. Anderson talking

about senior board members and closeness and all of that. And so specifically that got to me. It is deeply troubling and irresponsible to publicly accuse a fellow board member of being too close to a student or borderline inappropriate without clear evidence and proper process. Allegations like that are not casual. They strike at integrity, reputation, and livelihood of not just

one person but of the entire board. What did you mean by senior member? Age or length of service? Once words like that are spoken, they cannot be taken back. And after whatever experiences have moved you to tears on the day, it is difficult to understand why you would cast that kind of shadow over somebody else. We have seen this pattern before with

Mr. Kowski. He was once recorded making a similar sweeping claim the stating that our district has pedophiles that he didn't know who they were but he would find them. I believe he was referring to teachers specifically, but statements like that place a cloud over every educator, staff member, and volunteer who serves our students with integrity. When a teacher was later formerly

accused, Mr. Kroski had nothing to do with addressing it. The system worked as designed through reporting procedures, investigation, and due process, not through inflammatory rhetoric. So, Mrs. Anderson also suggested that board members should not be on campuses. But how else can you truly understand what is happening in our schools? Relationships are built through presence and are you attending events? Are you

following up? Creating opportunities to listen. Leadership is not only responding to emails from those with concerns. It's also engaging with those who may never send one. You learn a great deal simply by being there. So that said, balance matters. It can be intrusive for a board and cabinet members to enter classrooms, especially in the large groups like Mrs. as

Anderson had mentioned, but lessons are centered around that disruption. So perhaps not all six members need to be or however many people are visiting. They don't all need to be in the classroom at once. Have thoughtful presence and respectful engagement. That's key. And in the inflammatory language and board or broad accusations, they plant seeds of doubt, creating fear

and division. As a board, the responsibility is not to inflame, but to lead and not to divide, but to unify our sites and employees around student success and safety. And I know that's a hard thing for you guys to grasp, but we owe our students vigilance, our staff fairness, and our community leadership grounded in integrity, evidence, respect, and genuine engagement. Thank

you. [applause] Thank you very much. In looking at this document, a sea of blue written by who knows who. Either these are written by staff or by board counsel or by one of you. And only one of those is not a drain on district financial resources. Imagine if you put as much effort into developing new ideas to help our

students achieve higher than ever before as you did into these nitpicking control issues policies meant to shackle and weaponize against each other. Woo! We'd really have something going on there, wouldn't we? But first, let's talk about number five. The basic functions of the board are established policies by which school districts are administered and select the superintendent and staff who

will implement these policies. Selecting staff is not within your purview. You know that. And if it was there before and not changed, it should be changed here and now. Even [clears throat] though several of you have tried to be involved in hiring staff prior, again, control issues, that's not your role. Board members shall not direct, encourage, solicit,

organized, facilitate student participation in advocacy efforts, campaigns, or demonstrations related to boardi decisions, district governance, or the election or recall of any board member. Vague and nitpicky language. Yet again, a clear sign of intent to weaponize any and all interactions as a violation against board members which you are opposed. You know, this side and that side. As you mentioned in last

meeting, this code of ethics and the bylaws of the board of trustees are enforceable by means of a motion calling for the adoption of a censure resolution. Let me remind you there are at least three censure resolutions and one vote of no confidence resolution just floating in the wind because they have your names on them. We're not

talking about it. You talk about accountability, but we know this is about control, about power, about payback. And from the looks of what has been written here, you three have violated each and every one of these. Is this penance? Listen, I'm a big fan of good governance. And good governance means service in this capacity requires sacrifice, compromise,

finding a middle ground, all in the service to the greater good. That is an inconvenient truth for the likes of you, a man who has anointed himself a savior for the souls of 27,000 students. You were elected by a simple majority of voters that participated in the last election. As we know, less than half of eligible voters even voted in that

election. You have no mandate to bestow upon yourself any savior delusions. What they ask for you for, what people have always asked for, was a servant of the greater good, and you refuse to do it, choosing instead to honor yourself while embarking into makebelieve battles of which only you can see. [clears throat] If it wasn't so frustrating and costly to our students

and taxpayers, we could laugh and endure it. But people suffer at the cause of your narcissism and you should be ashamed of that. Thank you. [applause] Okay, I'll open this up and this is going to be for the entire the entirety of these nine, excuse me, one, two, three, four. The entirety of all of them. Two minutes

>> twice. That's it. Um not per item. What I would highly suggest is something that I the board last meeting all [snorts] of us to bring in our comments. We're not voting on these tonight and to save time we can go through two minutes times two minutes on this and be done with it on the next meeting. But I would encourage

every single board member not to on the spot make the edits for the next meeting. Send them to Dr. BZ so that she can incorporate this. Answer your questions ahead of time. That's my encouragement. And I'm not going to present. So I'm going to open up the floor and we'll do two rounds of two rounds and then we'll

move through this. And also, sorry I have to read this. At approximately 9:30, which it's now 9:42. I didn't want to interrupt uh the comments. The governing board will determine which of the remaining agenda items can be considered and acted upon before 10 p.m. And may it continue all other items on which additional time is required until

a future meeting. All meetings are scheduled to end at 10 p.m. My ask, and we'll see if we get board consensus, is to finish this item and push all the remaining items to the next meeting. And I've already consulted with Dr. Vez, and none of these have a time stamp that's urgent. Do I have consensus? >> I'll second that.

>> Do we have a third? >> All right. We're going to push all remaining items out. We're going to finish this one and then we're going to go to public comments and finish out the meeting. I myself do not want to be here till midnight. And this puts pressure on the board to get things done to encourage the board to be in contact

with Dr. VeZ to have our agame down to where we can proceed through voting in these agenda items and conducting board good board business. I mean, so that's all I can ask and hope the other board members agree. So, who wants to speak first? >> You got two minutes and I'm going to I'm going to curtail this to where if you have questions for

district admin or Dr. That's a part of the two minutes. I don't want to be here for 10 20 minutes on per item. We'll reset Mr. Schwarz's time. >> I'm going to uh make a few and then I will hand them to Dr. Veles to uh add on. Uh so just a few things. For example, uh school visits not initiate

or engage in direct communication with students during visits except for brief nonsubstantiative greetings. So if I walk into an art class and I see that Jack has made a beautiful painting, I can't say, "Jack, what a beautiful painting." Cuz that is not a nonsubstanti. It's ridiculous. Absolutely ridiculous. Second, um, prior to participating in any site visit, board members shall acknowledge

in writing via email to the superintendent that they have read and understand [snorts] the visitation policy. It's like I need a permission slip from mommy to go visit a school. Ridiculous. I don't know who wrote these things, but they are ridiculous. I'm going to pass them on to Dr. Valz. Second, ethics. Um, decisionmaking. Each board member is obligated by law to

participate in decisions pertaining to education in the district. As an elected representative of the people, the board members can neither relinquish nor delegate this responsibility to any individual or group. There are no abstensions except those provided in ED code. That's right. There are no code. And uh finally, um prohibiting student advocacy. Uh, I'm going to say this is again

something that I think is a violation of the First Amendment. I think it's illegal. I think it needs to be sent to CSBA. I think it needs to be vetted and then if it comes back, we can discuss it again. I'm going to again pass these to Dr. Vez and not take any more time. >> Just a point of clarity, Steve, a lot of

this language actually came from CSBA. So, I don't know what you're referring to. So you're in good hands when you ask for that because a lot of language and that's a shout out to Len being the Jedi Knight she is to find this. >> Thank you. >> Okay, Mr. Barham, do you want to go next or Dr. Anderson or Mrs. Wisma?

>> No, let no let >> Okay, Dr. Anderson. >> I am I'm going to say this these are CSBA uh policies. They have been uh some of them are amended. If you see pink, it's that's my amendment. So going forward when you see pink, that's that's me. I just are highlighting that for the public. Um, student participation. Um, I

just this is around subcommittees. So, I've put that there. The public can request a copy of it. Visits to school. I want to just add some more language to that. But what I really want to talk about is maintaining these are board policies. These are from CSBA. Um, maintaining appropriate um what what is it? Contact. So, definition of covered

adults. I think that needs to include governing board members and I think we need to have this uh governing board member language added because this is what the employees these are the rules the employees follow and I don't know why governing board members would get to act outside of the parameters when it comes to student interaction. So, board

members really should maintain the same professional boundaries. um as the as the the staff. Um, and then I added some language on violations, but I am totally on board with either referring this to legal or to um the sher to law enforcement because um standard I I I just believe and I've believed for like nine ten months that we do not have professional

standards amongst all board members. The other thing I wanted to add is the Keenan training. So all of us were took training and all of the employees take training and I want I want to look at the Kenan training and add that language to professional standards. Um some of the language that these board members have been trained on says in appropriate

>> I got you. >> Inappropriate. >> Yeah, you got my >> Okay, so I got more time because they keep talking. Inappropriate boundary invasions include taking the students on personal outings even with parents permission, engaging in peer-like behavior, taking students on out outings away from other adults and undue interest in student via special relationship. So, I'm going to look

through the training and add that language because >> Okay, noted. Got got you, Dr. Anderson. Okay, so we're we're going to do a second round. We'll get you in there as well. Uh, Mrs. Wormer or Mr. Barham, do you want to go? >> The last one. I better >> Mr. Barham, do you want the floor? >> You go,

M. Want. >> So, the beauty and Bane of being a local elected official is that we're in a fishbowl. And that's a great thing, too, because there should be accountability from the public. It's really important that we're always considering the fact that we are being watched. The Keenan training is very clear. There should never be a place where a student and an

adult, especially a trustee, is with them alone. If a parents there, great. If another adults there, great. But this is the this is the issue. And I'm going to read a little bit of this email because I think a speaker said you're you're you're pursuing the makebelieve. No, these are real situations. And this is it. On Saturday, February 7th, before

noon, I was having lunch with my daughter. I noticed a man walking out of the bakery with a young man. Recognized him as a Mill. Thought it odd, jumping down. Uh, and Mill had a big smile on his face when he asked the young man, "How are you doing?" They sat down at the table, continued the conversation.

He asked the young man about the student protest and walk out. He asked who was there, the student confirming staff members. Emil said something along the lines of once you do one protest it becomes addictive and you want more. The conversation shifted to other things. They then discussed how teachers are not indoctrinating and that it's the parents

that are indoctrinating their children. They then talked about how Jen and Joe got elected and that it was not reflective of their district but the right-wing 412 church that got them elected. The conversation then she and her daughter left. The point is we're here now to say let's create the proper boundaries because that is what we worry

about when Mr. Barham addressed our student board member tonight. It made me feel uncomfortable. It shouldn't be that we're coercing Listen, please. >> We It shouldn't be that we're coercing her to agree with us. If you want to talk about privilege and power, there's a trustee who's talking to a student and we have to be very mindful of that for

them and also for the district liability and being um we don't want the appearance of impropriy. >> Thank you, Mrs. Wman. Mr. Barham, would you like the floor? [laughter] >> We're not here. Audience, please keep it down. I'll give the audience a warning and we can conduct business without you. Um, >> Mr. Barham, >> I respect the board's intent to

establish ethical guidelines, but cannot support adopting this code of ethics as I personally reject its ideals on actions and conduct for compelling reasons rooted in constitutional protections. I will not allow my personal freedoms and liberties, other board members personal freedoms and liberties, students and parents to be deprived of their individual liberties because you three don't like the student protests. And that is what

this is all about. >> It's not >> Let him speak. Nobody interrupt. I want my time back. >> You're not going to get it back. >> Keep going. >> Keep on going. Go for it. >> She interrupted me and I want my time back. 5 seconds. 5 seconds. 5 seconds. You are you are you are entertaining the

audience and you are reducing your own time by these shenanigans. Audience, please keep it down. Be respectful. While codes of ethics aim to promote integrity, these specific standards infringe on fundamental first amendment rights of elected officials likened unto us such as free speech, association, and petition. As school board members, we represent constituents, including students, and such over broad

restrictions, could invite legal challenges similar to those already faced locally. The standard prohibited the standards in this code prohibiting board members from private or unsupervised meetings with district students on board actions, governance or political advocacy is unconstitutional because it broadly curtails protected speech and associational rights without narrow tailoring. elected officials retain uh robust first amendment protections to communicate privately

with constituents on public matters akin to how courts have struck down blocks on social media for school officials discussing district issues. The prohibition on directing, encouraging, or facilitating student participation in advocacy campaigns or demonstrations related to board decisions is likewise unconstitutional as it suppresses core political speech by elected representatives. Students enjoy robust first amendment rights to expressive activities and board members

cannot be gagged >> from supporting such participation outside instructional disruption. All right, I'll take my two minutes. This is just what I suspected of one trustee criticizing the ethics because at the last meeting I said that this particular board member seemed to be boundary resistant. It excites me. It excites me. Really excites me >> when we are talking about ethics to hold

board members accountable, including myself. And if somebody's going to be boundary resistant, well, guess what? We will just create these standards. And if we get the votes, we will hold you accountable. Mr. Barham can hold me accountable. We can hold everybody accountable. And I want this accountability applied to all of us. And it's very interesting that you think

it's a First Amendment violation. CSBA condemns adult interaction with minors, Mr. Barham, and that is what you proceeded to do. Excuse me. >> Point of order. I think Joseph should have more time because they keep interrupting. >> This is the first warning to the entire audience. Specifically, this part of the room. This is the first warning. If I

give a second warning, I will remove everybody from the meeting. We can play the shenanigans. You've been warned. The entire audience. This this group over here, you know who you are. That's your first warning. We're almost at the end of the meeting. I would hate to remove the audience. I want to conduct business. you are objectively disturbing

the board from conducting business. Thank you. So we can talk about these ethics and Mr. Barham, Mr. Schwarz, myself, Dr. Anderson, Mrs. Whisma, what I would highly suggest is that each and every one of you send edits to Dr. Valz so that at the next meeting we can look at these one by one and see where the votes

land. And like I said, all of us are accountable, not just one person. And I welcome the more accountability and the more ethics imposed. That is great. You know why? I don't want to be accused of inappropriately interacting with a minor ever. And somebody else has been accused of that. And we're going to flush this out and see where it lands. Next

meeting, I am going to ask that we pull each one of these items out in clusters. Code of ethics all by itself, visits to schools all by itself, the three appropriate adult student interactions clustered together so that we don't have to sit in one item and be here for an hour so we can expedite the business. So

I would suggest to you if you think that you have edits, send them to Dr. Vez. If we want, we can color code them so that the whole world knows that I had edits in this color, you had edits in that color, and it's transparent to the public. Or we can have no color codes at all to keep it more objective to the

outside world so that they don't get polarized when they see a name and go, I'm going to reject that because such and such made it. That is up to the board to decide. My comments are done and now um I'm going to ask Miss Chai, did you want to speak to this any item? I think we have

you down in a >> I'm okay. >> No, we don't. Okay. Thank you. Thank you, >> Dr. Anderson. The floor is yours for the second round. >> Okay. So, I am surprised that board members are fighting for access to students. I said that we have a legal right to access sites, school sites, but we do not have an legal a right to

access students. And we're asking board members to live by the same standards as the employees. We are not above the law. We are not above employees. Students are still minors and there is an inherent imbalance anytime an adult in leadership position develops a personal or private relationship with a student. What may feel friendly or supportive to an adult

can place a student in an uncomfortable position or create the appearance of favoritism influence even when never was in none was intended. The policies exist because experience has shown that blurred boundaries, especially through private communication, social media DMs, or friendships outside structured school settings, can quickly lead to misunderstandings or situations that undermine trust in district. you step

out of our district, ask any liberal or conservative. If board members should be fighting for a right to ask for access to students privately through private emails, private DMs, private social media, that is not acceptable. And you guys are going to have a hard time selling this outside of our district. Equally important, clear boundaries protect students, but they also protect

the adults. When interactions remain professional, transparent, and connected to official school activities, everyone understands the role and expectations. As board members, our responsibility is governance, not personal relationships with students. Supporting students means creating safe systems and strong policies, not forming friendships and personal relationships with them. Maintaining that separation helps ensure fairness for the students and for the p

and for preserves public confidence in how we serve this community. So it's that's all I have. >> Thank you, Dr. Anderson. Okay, we finished first round of comments. We're on to round two. >> That was your round two. Thank you. Trying to keep track. All right, anybody else want to go for round two? Just briefly, Mr. Schwarz, I've been on

the board. I'm sorry. I've been on the board for five years. We do the Keenan training all the time, >> and I resent having other board members constantly making accusations and pointing their fingers at other board members. You know what? When you look in the mirror, you see yourself. I never had kids over my house on a Saturday

night. >> [applause] >> I never had kids at my house at a pickle ball court cuz I don't have a pickle ball court. So stop pointing your finger at other people. >> You want to make the policy. That's your business. The I I don't object to the policy, but stop pointing fingers at other people. And I'm going to ask Dr.

Valz to follow our governance handbook. And I'm going to ask for a civility meeting with one of the board members to discuss some of the accusations that she has made at this. If you read the governance handbook, oop, let me find it. I still have 55 seconds. Governance handbook page uh let me see where it is. >> Uh 24

>> page 24. >> Page 24 of the governance handbook. the civility policy. Board members shall talk to other board members about a about a problem before airing them publicly in a meeting. And I'm demanding a meeting with Dr. Anderson and you, Dr. Veles, to mediate these policies and these accusations. It's a disgrace. Uh, what did she say? Inappropriate conduct.

Uh, board members fight for access to students. Who is she talking about? It's uh obvious she's not talking about Mrs. Wearsmore or Dr. Kamaroski. So, it's either Mr. Barham or me. So, the both of us are going to meet with you to iron this out civily the way it's supposed to be done. [applause] >> Okay, we have Mr. Schwarz. Last round of

comments. Dr. Anderson. So, it's either Mr. Barham or Mrs. Wormouth. Who wants to go? you yield your comments. >> No, I'm not yielding, but >> please go. >> Take your time. >> I'm not going to make any edits to this. I'm going to let it just stand. Okay. And then there's going to be lawsuits >> with regard to this.

>> So, um, you need to send this, somebody needs to send this back to the lawyers. The lawyers wrote this. They wrote this. They put put in all this language about unsupervised all this stuff. There's so many issues with this. My lawyer says there's so many issues with it. Over breath and vagueness. Um, this is just we're going to be sued. I mean, you

can't you can't write this kind of stuff. I mean, we have as board members outside of our official duties. Excuse me. Excuse me, Dr. Anderson. I need more time. You know, I I have to say you sink to the bottom of the barrel when you start alluding to two people who have never had a blemish on their record

in terms of alluding to the fact that we are predators because that's exactly what she And look at her smile. That's ex That's exactly what she wants. the public to believe there is no blemish ever, no complaint from a teacher, no complaint from an administrator, no complaint from a superintendent. Isn't that right, Dr. Vez? >> I've never received a complaint.

>> And this person would put this out into the community about two senior board members. It's like, if you've seen something, Dr. Anderson, if you've seen something, then you need to state what you've seen. That's what I want to know. What have you seen? Because you know what? As a mandated reporter, if you saw something a year ago, the last time we

were on a site visit, you didn't report it. You didn't report it. You did not report it. >> Okay, your time's up, Mr. Barham. Thank you. >> And we are done for your two rounds of comments. And we only have two board members left. It's Dr. Anderson. You've already exhausted yours. So, I'm going to make something clear.

Inappropriate conduct. This is policy 4119.24. There's two others that are very similar. This is CSBA language. Inappropriate conduct. Item number six, maintaining personal conduct with a student during or outside the school day that has no legitimate educational purpose by phone, letter, text message, social media, internet platforms, electronic communications, or other mean of communication without including the student parent guardian. Part of that

might have been filled at one meeting, but we can go on and on. This is written by CSBA. And Mr. Schwarz, you want to be a CSBA delegate. These are the guidelines. >> I will be a CSBA. >> Okay, this is great. So, um, what I'm what I'm suggesting is a lot of this language is CSBA and we get people

whining about being held ethically accountable, morally accountable, being held morally blameworthy. >> I I subject myself and I would expect all board members to these standards coming from CSBA. And I it's mind-boggling to me that we have one board trustee threatening to like there's going to be lawsuits. Now, let me be even more clear with misinformation. I want the public to

hear this very clearly on on our uh governing board handbook page 24. Protocol for resolving allegations of team member Thank you Dr. BZ for pulling this up. Protocol for resolving uh allegations of team member misconduct reported to a board member. So, if we have this interchange between board members, in the event that a board member receives an accusation of

misconduct against another board member, the following steps are suggested. There is no shall, there is no must. You would be the last person I would sit in a room with when you threaten to sue the school board and me. Shame on you. >> I did not threaten to sue the school. >> I will not sit with you and I wouldn't

have any other board members sit with you. >> Change my words. >> I'm going to have time added because you're interrupting me. You're addressing me. >> You can't handle the truth. You're going to get it now. Misinformation governing handbook says suggested. No board member has to sit with you or any other board member if they do not feel comfortable

especially when you threaten to sue. >> Your time is up. >> Good. It is. >> We have as a board we've >> Excuse me. Your time is up. >> I'm leading the meeting. >> Your time is up. >> I am leading the meeting. You want me to lead the meeting, Mr. Schwarz? >> No, I don't want you to lead the

meeting. Thank you for asking. >> Right. So, so, so point of order, are you being disorderly? Thank you. >> I mean, you just took that bait, didn't you? I mean, do you want me to lead the meeting and finish? The majority of the school board has said that we're going to push the remaining agenda items out, and that's what we're going to do. So,

we're moving on. We are done with this item. >> I thought you had I thought you told me, too. Okay, here we go. Mrs. Wearsma, since we're not voting, she has the right to her last two minutes. >> Folks, this is common sense. This is where we need to land with wisdom, understanding we're not calling anyone a

predator. A group at the house with adults and kids is different than a one-on-one. It just is. >> Here is another. Excuse me. >> Could you shout it out? >> Sure. >> Be brave enough. Please. >> That's your first warning for objectively disturbing the board. If I have to give you a second warning, you will be escorted out. Thank you. Duly

noted by the director of security, >> Mrs. Wearsma. Constituent number two, I noticed Mr. Barham sitting with a student who spoke at the podium at a schoolboard meeting recently. I was not able to hear their conversation, but I found it concerning the age of the minor, and there didn't seem to be any adult or parental supervision. I decided

to take pictures and sent them to a trusted friend, thinking there should be some bylaws or guidelines for school officials. This has nothing to do with the minor. It has everything to do with a lack of discretion in these types of manners. because he is a trusted official and a leader in the community. I hold the responsibility upon him to

make wise decisions about how he could be perceived. This is why we're talking about this tonight. And I think we're going to land in a better place. If we're looking at Keenan, if we're looking at common sense, if we're looking at the fact we're trying to protect students and board members and the district, this is the way to go. It

has nothing to do with with student protests. You as a student have every right to protest, hold a sign. I'm not objecting to that. What I am objecting to is a trustee sitting down with a student and there being uh a conflict of power and influence. That's it. We all need to be able to agree to this. It is

easy enough to land there and we do not have to keep threatening to sue each other. That is why people who wrote these emails have not showed up for a public comment because there's the there's the aspect of suing and weaponization and intimidation. It happens constantly and it's not right. These people should be able to speak and

I am so thankful that they sent this in because we're going to land in a better place as a result of this conversation. [snorts] >> Thank you, Mrs. Worma. All right, we are going to push the rest of the information reports to the next meeting. We're now on to Q. General public comments. The governing board welcomes public comments. This is the time for

open session public comments. Public comments are allowed up to a maximum of three minutes per comment in the order received to a maximum total time of 30 minutes per item for comments on the agenda items or non-aggenda items. For consent agenda item topics, a limit of three minutes total will be allowed from one speaker. Unless the item has been

placed on the published agenda in it accordance with the Brown Act, there shall be no action taken. No discussion will be made regarding personnel issues in open session. Also, pursuant to education code section 7054 of the public comment process shall not be used to show support or opposition for any ballot measure or candidate for political office, including candidates

for the district board of education. All public comments are an important part of the board meeting and are carefully considered by the governing board. Um I would I would ask Len how many we we have 17 as a board. I'm this is just me. I'm one voice. I want 30 minutes. We can do two votes. How much time do we all

lot for public comments and then how much time per speaker? >> 30 minutes. No two minutes. >> So, that'll be 34 minutes, 2 minutes per people. We have three uh board members, two minutes per person, and it'll it'll extend out to possibly 34 minutes. And that's where we're going to go. And I would highly suggest that if you hear

somebody in public comments who you disagree with, don't shout in the audience. Be respectful. Even if it's something you disagree with, everybody has sat here waiting for the public comments. Let them speak. No interruptions. Thank you. >> Okay. First up is Jack Callahan followed by Greg Lingworthy. >> Good morning everybody. Or sorry, I'm tired too. Good evening everybody.

>> I don't know if your mic's on, Jack. >> It's green. >> Is it on? Okay. >> Oh, sorry. >> All right. Uh if you couldn't tell by the fact that I just said good morning, I am exhausted. Uh before I start talking about the actual meeting itself, I'd like to say thank you. At the beginning of the meeting, I was told

that there was a moment of silence. Uh that was for my little brother. Um so I am very much emotional right now and exhausted. Uh but [sighs and gasps] I'm disappointed. I'm sad like today Dr. Dr. Kamaskki, I don't agree with you much, but there were times where I'm just sitting there like, please like, please take charge of it because there

are times where even like the audience, I don't really call them out that much because most of the time I agree with them. Please, while they are speaking, let them speak. Like these are the people that most of you guys voted for them. So, let them speak. Uh, for board members, stop interrupting each other. you are all elected officials. I mean, I

don't know about you guys. I have a current education. I don't know when y'all went to school. I don't know uh how recent. I don't know. I don't know any of that. But one of the first like core values that they taught us in elementary school is basic civility and empathy. Raise your hand to speak. It's not hard. Don't interrupt. Listen

to the other people. And all of a sudden, most of the problems in here, all these issues about bickering and fighting can be simply solved by just listening to the other people and actually taking that into account with your responses. There were good instances of that in this meeting. But then of course, it's always overshadowed by the constant arguing and bickering on

this day. Thank you for your time. >> Thank you. And I'm sorry for the loss of your brother, Jack. Miss Greg Langworthy followed by Cindy Ellen. [snorts] >> So [clears throat and cough] two policies I agree with. I agree with the the boundaries policy. I was a high school teacher and that is something we constantly had to think about because as

a high school teacher you do have kind of a power over the students and and just something that when those rules are there it helped me. It helped me kind of realize, yeah, you got to keep boundaries with especially with the the female students. [clears throat] Second thing, um Steve, I agree with you that that civility policy um it is a suggestion, but think

of it like um Joseph, you were talking about the need to do your homework, to do the edits, to get a that work done before you come and then the the the meeting goes more smoothly. Think of the civility policy like that. The edits [clears throat] need to be with your relationships with each other. So then the the u um meeting goes more smoothly

because you've kind of resolved those issues before you come to the meeting because you can see those conflicts between each other come through and it does make the meeting go a lot longer and and the tension that Jack was talking about is very visible. So anyway, um that's why that civility policy was there. It is suggested, but I

think it would be very helpful to make those efforts to talk before the meeting, try to get resolved. It's a lot easier to resolve things when you're just the two of you rather than when you're trying to resolve it in the public eye with everybody um looking at you. So anyway, thank you. And those are my two suggestions. Thanks.

>> Thank you. >> Next up is Cindy Allen, followed by Eric Faulner. >> Cindy's gone. Okay, >> Eric's here. >> Eric Faulner, followed by Jeff Pac. >> All right, board members, staff, uh, you do a great job. I don't know. It's tough. Uh, because this is the first time I've been to a school uh, school board meeting. And, you know, uh, from

the last time I watched it on, uh, YouTube, we got to do better. You guys are talking over one another. Your personal attacks. Your second round of questioning is it's it's kind of weird. I'm like three minutes uh to be able one round of questioning. Three minutes you should be good to get your point out. >> Thank you buddy. Appreciate it.

So again, u again the personal tax, the talking over one another, uh it extends the meeting. You got a lot of resources dedicated to this meeting, RSA's here. You got city staff, they got students out here. They need to get home. I'm glad that you're moving the public comments, the general public comments to the front. You know, city council does

that. The commissioners at the city do that. It it Robert's rules works when you have someone taking control of the meetings and people abide by the rules. All right? So, it's something you guys really need to look at. I mean cuz uh it's it's it's extending the meetings and and it's uh again just not worth it. And I I agree with the young man that

came up and talked about um you're not setting a great example for these young people are coming behind you. The way you act and interact with one another. Um so we got to do better. And I understand people come from different political spectrums and things like that, but when you come here, you got to find a way to find common ground to uh

mitigate these issues and get the things resolved for the students. It's not about you. It's about the teachers, the educators, the students, the parents. All right? Your responsibility is sure that there's no roadblocks to creating an opportunity and a safe space for kids to get educated. Period. Point blank. All stops. All right? You're responsible for governance. I understand. But at the

at the small level, at the student at the uh the school level, the principles and the teachers are down there doing that work. They're the grunts on the ground. We need you to get focused on what you're here for. Not creating more opportunities to spend money, but creating opportunities to make sure kids are uh afforded the opportunity to get

educated. And my last couple seconds, this young lady right here, Melissa Chai, she is amazing. She is mentoring up. Her her ability to prepare and execute and and and read out what she's saying is an example for everyone up here. So, I applaud you for what you do. Keep doing what you do. Keep standing up for >> [applause]

>> Thank you, Jeff Pack, followed by David Hatch. >> All right, don't let me forget to put that curing correct back on because I really wanted to talk about that tonight. Um, tonight, yet again, another evening filled with petty infighting, board policy, pallet power grabbing, weaponization of code of conduct, and very, very little time addressing student educational outcomes. It's

become part for the course. And Greg, I know you come up here every time and you tell everybody about how we're going to create policies and new guidelines about how we're all going to work together. It's been three years. At some point, we have to realize there's a problem here and there are two constants in that dysfunction. It's been happening since

2022, and it's not going to get better. But I will address you, Trustee Anderson. On August 3rd, you called me about a private meeting you had with Tim Thompson, Jason Craig, Greg Langworthy, his wife, and your husband. There were no recordings, no quotes, no transparency, just a summary. Before that meeting, you told me you'd never vote for Joe or Jen in leadership

because they were, in your words, crazy. Joe called you a pathological liar. Jen attacked you publicly at every meeting. You believed people connected to them harassed your family, your husband's business, even your home. You were afraid. You asked me about private investigators and attorneys. You left meetings. You stepped away from the deas. You never once claimed Mr. Schwarz

or Mr. Barum harassed you. Then you met with the very people you said were targeting you. And everything changed. You voted Joe into leadership. You said you could not support Steve or they would come after you. Suddenly the fear disappeared. No more harassment. No more walking off. No more absences. Instead, you now spend your time attacking Mr. Barum and Mr. Schwarz. The

public can see the shift. Your votes changed. Your behavior changed. Your alliances changed. It's clear to me that you made a deal at that meeting with your abusers. And now, like you've done with so many people on either side of these issues, you're trying to manipulate everyone again. But we see you. Everybody does. If you care about

this district and its students, the right thing to do is resign. [applause] >> Good evening. Uh, I [clears throat] obviously clearly reviewed tonight's agenda and once again, not a single item directly addressing student improvement or the district's growing deficit. This is very concerning to me. There's not one out it item outlining a recovery plan, not one item explaining how this

board intends to stabilize the district's finances. Instead, the deficit is being ignored. Petty differences are being argued back and forth for five plus hours. And at the same time, this board has let le allowed the bond discussion to sit idle for almost a full year. The bond was brought forward last May as an important step to address facility needs and long-term

planning. You want to know about the future? A bond will help with the future and long-term planning for this community. I don't know about you, I want this community to be around in 20 years. So, the community is left watching two things happen in time. A growing deficit with no plan to fix it and a critical long-term funding tool

that has been allowed to stall. That is not strategic planning. That's avoidance. Instead, this board continues to approve spending while relying on the general fund as a cushion. This is unsustainable. without publicly presenting a sustainable path forward. The general fund is not infinite. Draining it without a recovery strategy puts the district at risk. I care about this district. I moved here for this

district. And ultimately, this puts our students at risk. So, the question is simple. What's the plan? What is the plan to address the deficit? What's the plan for the bond measure? What's the plan to protect the long-term financial stability of this district? I don't care what the plan is for board comments or public comments. We spent way too much time doing that. Right now,

it appears there is no plan. Parents have a fundamental right to know the true financial condition of this district, including the full extent of its deficit, its debt, and the plan to fix it. That is parents rights. Thank you. [applause] >> Thank you. Mike Brewer followed by Upnit. >> I hate to follow up with the same comments, but

I can as a teacher in this district, I look at this board and the first words that come out of my mouth are children, children, children. That's what you're acting like. That's how you behave up here. It's the most disturbing thing I think I've ever seen as a teacher. And I've been in this district for 25 years

and I've attended board meetings after board meetings, but you guys act like a bunch of kids. She's the only one over there. She is the kid and she's the only one that acts like a damn adult. You guys all act like a bunch of babies. If you don't get your way, you cry. And it's the most pathetic thing I've ever

seen. You wonder why a bunch of teachers don't want several of you on our campuses. You send the wrong message to our kids because they hear about this. I have kids coming up to me going, "Mr. Brewer, did you hear about the board meeting last night? Oh my god, they act worse than us." And let me tell you, I have a

tough class this year. And the fact that my kids are saying that these board members are acting worse than them, that says a lot. But it doesn't say very much for you as board members. And more importantly, it doesn't say much for you as adults because you're sure as heck not acting like any. You really need to take a look in the

mirror and really ask yourself, am I doing it for the kids or am I doing it for performance? Am I doing it for getting on the news? Whatever it may be. But I'll tell you right now, it appears that you just rather would act like a bunch of babies instead of do your job up here. Not one thing, not one thing

has been dealt with for our kids or for the community. It's all been about you and about your policies and that's it. And we're done with it. [applause] >> Thank you. Next up is oopnate followed by Kimberly. >> I would remind everybody, don't clap during the speaker. That's actually interrupting our ability to hear. Especially that lady standing up right

there, the one not facing me. You're offbeat clapping. That's your warning. Yeah. Thank you. Please, please listen to the speaker. Thank you. Or you're being disrespectful to the speaker and the board. Thank you. A lot of what I wanted to say has been said already. So I'm not going to repeat that. There are a couple of things I

note down which uh so first thing uh words matter. You use certain words and I would like to point out a particular word that you use Dr. Kamroski calling the CSEA and TVA special interest groups. You are a board president of a school district. There are only two variables to the school. One is the teachers and the other are the students.

So I don't know how you consider teachers a special interest group. This is their livelihood that you're talking about. This is their insurance, their ability to get medical care. So I don't know why you would consider them a special interest group. Getting somebody's like, you know, getting paid for the work that they do is not a special interest. It is their right to

be paid for the work that they're doing. So they're not special interest groups. They are one of the groups that you are responsible for. The other thing was a very uh I would say a rude comment about like a mediocre math teacher to be an elected official. You don't need any special qualification or anything. I think we would have been

actually better served right now if we had a general contractor or a plumber over here as we're discussing bonds and stuff. They would be able to actually understand when they talk about like you know the materials or sheeting or like you know if there's a schematic to be reviewed they might be better people over here up there. There is nothing

like you know uh what are your qualifications Melinda for calling somebody a mediocre math teacher? What is a dentist mediocre dentist contributing to the whole conversation or an event planner or a philosophy professor? If my water is broken under my sink I'd rather have a plumber rather than somebody philosophize about morality over there. I'd rather have somebody who has a skill set that can be

useful. So this elitist language and attitude is very problematic. You're here to represent every single individual. Doesn't matter what their background is, what their profession is, or what they're doing. I think you need to quit using this elitist language. All of you. Thank you. [applause] >> Next up is Kimberly Dea Cruz, followed by Sydney Lopez. Cindy Lopez, forgive

me. >> Good evening. Last month, I spoke about workplace violence that TVUSD employees are facing. I'd like to start by thanking Mr. McTazznney for reaching out to hear more about my concerns. I appreciate that conversation and look forward to continuing it. However, he has been the only one reach out and that speaks volumes. Mrs. Vez, you've been silent. There has

been no statement to staff, no outreach to me, to TVA, or to any employee who has been injured. Yet, in in one of your walk and talk videos, you refer to TVUSD as family. But let me be clear, employees who are being hit, punched, kicked, or worse do not feel that way. Employees who are forced to return to work while still

experiencing system symptoms do not feel like part of a family. And employees who are battling cancer and other serious illnesses. People who have devoted 25 to 30 years, half of their lives to this district worrying about losing their health benefits because they cannot recover within a fivemonth, 100day window. They are not feeling the love from this so-called TVUSD family.

Do better TVUSD because right now your employees are not asking for slogans. They're asking for safety, dignity, and proof that their lives matter more than your silence. Thank you, [applause] >> Okay, just about now I feel like we're looking like something the cat drug in, but good evening. Um, uh, good evening cabinet members and our board trustees.

My name is Cindy Lopez and I'm a speech pathologist in our district. Um, I also happen to be the vice president of TVA. I'm here tonight to speak about our postcard campaign that recently circulated. You might recognize these. Um, at its core, this campaign reflects something simple but powerful. Educators and parents wanting to be heard. These postcards are not attacks or acts of

hostility. They're a visible expression of concern and engagement showing how deeply we care about what happens in our schools. This campaign was also called to focus on matters of real importance. Ensuring our students receive appropriate services, support staff, and strengthening systems that are currently under strain. That is where our attention should be. In our district, we share the same goal. Helping our

students thrive academically, socially, and emotionally. Achieving requires more than good intentions. It requires collaboration and meaningful dialogue with educators and specialists doing the very work every day. Our students and families benefit when communication is pro proactive, respectful, and when all stakeholders have a voice by listening, working together, and valuing expertise, we can ensure our district is guided by

trust, shared purpose, and a commitment to student success. Lastly, I want to thank the cabinet members and trustees that did reach out to acknowledge the postcards and um also to our special education directors for promptly responding by scheduling upcoming SPE uh subcommittee meetings. This demonstrates that when concerns are raised, collaboration is possible. TVA is hopeful that these meetings will result

in constructive and meaningful solutions to all those uh concerned. I want to thank you again for listening tonight. Have a good evening. >> [applause] >> Thank you, Edgar Diaz, followed by Kelly Maxi. Good evening. I'm here today to again talk about medical leave for employees. I've been here speaking about this over the last couple months. I've been in

conversations with the district over a period of years to try to improve what we've been doing and we've made some had we made some great changes. The ability though for someone to come back like a 30-year veteran, uh someone who's started at uh at one of our middle schools and has been out on complicated surgeries, recovering from cancer, then

having some other parts, a surgery to come back. Her last day was the day she got out of the hospital. if she had five more weeks because we went to a different interpretation of it by not counting Thanksgiving break, winter break, and spring break, she would have an additional five weeks to make a decision of how to retire. And she would

not have to make it in a in a part where she is just barely getting out of the hospital and having to recover for that. We also have a mother who has had high-risisk pregnancies and who had to go on bed rest. So for five months, she's been on bed rest. if she were to have the baby, she would not have time

to come back before she's placed on a 39-month rehire, uh, losing pay. Uh, she could, if she had those extra five weeks, be able to return and then go out on baby bonding leave. But as of now, TVSD policy is with these two examples showing how in just this year, just with two people, that change would have made a big impact

in their lives. And so while we have brought this up with admin, brought this up with you guys, we'll be taking it to bargaining. I offered for you guys to be able to sign this petition, still waiting for you guys to come back. And because of the lawsuit mentioned earlier, I just want to mention there are two parents,

seven students, and four teachers. And I myself did not sign that off. That was the organization. Thank you, Mr. Kamroski. >> Thank you, Kelly Maxi, followed by Caroline Caroline Hoffman. Okay, so I know that this item was pulled tonight, but I'm still going to speak to it because frankly I'm just annoyed and um I think that it speaks to

the overall dysfunction of this board. So Dr. Anderson, at the last meeting you said, and I quote, "I am suspicious that board members try to make this go long to derail and sabotage the meeting. I don't know why." My question to you is, do you really not know why? Because the reason our meetings are stretching to six and a half hours is not a mystery.

It's not sabotage or a hidden agenda. It's the ongoing conflict, accusations, and distractions that you continue to introduce. Your notice of conduct concern that you wrote originally about Mr. Barham is a clear example. It reads less like objective governance and more like projection. Much of what you alleged mirrors the very behavior the public has repeatedly witnessed from

you. In fact, I'm submitting a notice of conduct concern regarding you tonight. It's the actually the same letter that you wrote about Emil Baram. The only change required was substituting your name in the header. It fit you perfectly. I mean, it's like you wrote it about yourself. And since you elected yourself as board clerk, I have emailed

you a copy for inclusion to be in the public record, and I will provide it to the rest of the board and cabinet as well. Your comments about Mr. Barham at the last meeting were inappropriate and unprofessional. You seem more focused on attacking hem than fulfilling your elected responsibility to govern. This board is not a platform for personal

grievances. Our community deserves leadership focus on policy, budgets, and student achievement, not vendettas. Honestly, Dr. Anderson, if you would just focus on one real issue rather than these weird ramblings, it would be greatly appreciated. We cannot afford six-hour meetings consumed by internal conflict and crazy erratic behavior. Do better or step aside and make room for somebody else who will. [applause]

>> Thank you, Caroline Hoffman, followed by Lindsay. >> All right. I don't uh I don't plan this out. I just like to talk about things that happened during the meeting. Um, Joe, I think you need a math lesson because 2/3 is four of the five people, which means when you decided to throw out the um the bylaws or the Robert's rules. Yeah.

Um, Jen, I just wanted to highlight that out of touch comment you made during the bond discussion to mention, you know, people with multiple homes. Like, come on, dude. Like, weird. Uh Jed and Joe, we understand you didn't vote for Steve, but Melinda did, so he's going and you can make your videos tomorrow explaining that it wasn't your fault. Um public

comments. Um I see why you moved it to the you want to move it to the middle, Joe. Are you tired of talking to an empty room when it comes to be your turn to speak? Also, um, everybody on the board needs to note that, uh, letter J was, uh, board president comments. So, if he tries to speak at the end of the

meeting, that's not allowed because that would mean that he had two separate times to have comments. Steve tried to remove that last meeting so that Joe could get the last word at the end of the meeting like we know he wants. Um, but Joe shut that down because, well, it came from Steve. Why is he going to

listen to Steve? Um, so yeah. So you don't get to speak twice. Uh, how soon we forget or you forget that Jen and Joe had no problem joining a student protest when it was to protest one student, but all of a sudden Emile can't talk to a student. That's the other thing. You have now given everyone in this district

permission to take photos of you every time you're in public because I don't know what your kids look like. So I'm going to be someone, right? because that's weird, but it's going to happen. See you on social media, I guess. When families, students, and educators look at a school board agenda, they should be able to clearly see one thing

rise to the top. student learning and student support. But if we're being honest, that's not what this agenda reflects or many of the previous agendas. I have to ask, at what point, if ever, will we prioritize students? Out of dozens of items tonight, only a small fraction directly addresses academic achievement, instructional quality, or student services. To put it

plainly, roughly 10 to 15% of tonight's agenda directly touches the core mission of educating students. Families want to know, how are we improving literacy and math outcomes? How are we supporting students with disabilities? How are counseling, speech therapy, and behavioral supports being expanded and evaluated? I am curious as to why most of you on this board are seemingly

uninterested in getting answers to those questions. I can only guess that it's intentional. A school board should spend its most valuable resource, time, on what most directly improves student outcomes. At a minimum, educational achievement and student services should be the first, longest, and most frequently discussed items on every agenda, not an afterthought. If a parent read this agenda, would they walk away

confident that students, not politics, not process, not procedure, are the central focus of this district? Because right now, it is clearly not a priority from board leadership. I also want to add just to clarify, you know, on February 10th regarding the Riverside County drug program that we declined to enter into anou with you, Dr. Anderson stated that it was described as free for

Riverside County residents who self-reer. And I can tell you that based on that county information, that's not accurate. It's only it's only um provided at no cost to medical recipients. So for myself holding a PO, that would not help me. you actually would be in a doing a huge disservice to me. I'd be paying massive out-ofpocket fines because of that. So, there's more

to that. And >> you [applause] >> Thank you, Allison, followed by Christine Masa. >> No, those the last two speakers. >> No, what? Sorry, there's three. >> Three. Three total. Okay. >> Three. Three total. So, Allison followed by uh Christine Masa. >> Okay. All right. I want to speak about the policy that was passed restricting trustees from communicating with the

student board member through her official school board Instagram page. I respectfully ask that the specific e code section or adopted board policy authority supporting this restriction be clearly cited for the public record. From what is publicly available, there is no blanket rule in California ed code that prevents elected trustees from communicating with a student trustee about school business in a professional

manner. CSBA provides guidance, but guidance is not law unless the board has formally adopted a specific policy addressing this issue. If this is new, if this is new restriction ba is based on CSBA recommendation that district uh that distin distinction should be clearly explained. I also want to note that the student trustee herself has publicly stated that she is comfortable

communicating through her official page and that if she were uncomfortable, she would simply not respond. It is concerning that her perspective appears to have been overlooked and this decision to restrict her communications. I would also ask whether imposing these communications restrictions raises first amendment or public forum considerations, particularly when communication is occurring on an official page intended for public

engagement. Um, clarity on that balance is important to ensure the district is not placed in unnecessary legal jeopardy. If communication is being limited, the public deserves to know exactly why and under what authority. Lastly, I'm curious, Jennifer, you continue to read these emails as fact, but has an investigation been started. Have you asked for an explanation from

the student or the board member? Because this bickering going back and forth is disgusting. Calling a student board member a groomer is disgusting. You say, you you two especially, you campaigned on parental rights. You're taking their parental rights away. >> [applause] >> Christine Masa followed by Sarah Bell. >> Hello. Thank you. Um, I know that you can't respond to these comments, but

something to think about for the future. I I want to confirm that if your professional standards policy stands that Mrs. Anderson will no longer be able to have students at her house because there's certainly nothing public nor transparent nor appropriate about having a student present in the place where you sleep, eat, and drink. I also want to remind Mr. Kamaroski that he was

solely responsible for the district having to pay $75,000 to settle a lawsuit for inappropriately curbing speech and inappropriately removing audience members. And I just see history repeating itself tonight. No victim blaming Joe. That's what bullies do. The last thing I'll say, a title doesn't grant you respect. Respect is earned. Thank you. [applause] >> Okay, last speaker, Sarah Bell.

>> Um, I just want to say what's obvious. No one wants students and adults to have inappropriate relationships. Like, regardless of what we're all saying here tonight, nobody wants that. As a district employee, I'm trained on what conduct is acceptable around students and my co-workers, and I'm a mandated reporter. I've really tried to give you the benefit of the doubt, Dr. Anderson,

but I am appalled that you would suggest that of another board member at your last meeting. I'm a substitute teacher. I'm on campus all the time. If what you said happened, a a a staff member would have intervened if a board member was getting too close to a student. There would have been a report. There would have been a complaint. Do you know that

there's school sites? Well, I'm sorry if I'm mixing up Jen's complaint, but you you've accused your fellow board members. Do you guys know that there are sites where certain classrooms and certain students have asked some of your fellow board members to not be around their students and none of those complaints were centered around Mr. Barham or Mr. Schwarz yet that's who's

being attacked. You said that the board should be held to the same standards as teachers and staff, but the very board members you're protecting have made it clear they're not required to follow the same policy as teachers and staff. They claim it's their first amendment right to say things that I'm not allowed to say to students and harm them with their

words. If you want to protect students, focus on their actual problems. None of this needed to be discussed tonight. I look forward to hearing our student board members comments tonight and I hope that you will at least listen to what she has to say. It's clear you're not listening to the public that we take the time to come to these meetings

because we genuinely care about our TVUSD students, our district, and our community. Please take it seriously and do better. [applause] Good morning. Negotiations update. Mr. Arce, >> not much is a really good thing. >> Not much, Dr. Kamaroski. We have a negotiation session with TBA this coming Monday. >> That's about it. >> Beautiful. Thank you, Mr. say board

comments. Um we have select in the beginning of the meeting on the um agenda item that we can do board comments in voting order. So I'll call upon Mr. Wman. >> First of all, I want to offer a massive congratulations to Susan Leavia Elementary on celebrating their 20th anniversary. I had the absolute honor of attending their Friday flag ceremony and

it was such a powerful sight to see our district come full circle. We had current high school students, many of them Levoria alumni interwoven throughout the color guard, the cheer and dance teams and everyone enjoyed in the celebration. It was definitely a who's who of the school's history with past principles, dedicated staff, two of which have been there for 20 years. I

believe we have one here tonight who's been there. I enjoyed what you had to share with a time capsule. Um, but it was a blast. It was definitely a highlight of my week that I attended with Mrs. Lash as well. I want to say I reject the idea that we're not discussing and prioritizing student standards or fiscal matters.

Let's look at this evening. We've passed textbooks, a survey for the bond, which will still be decided and discussed. We passed a consent list. We celebrated our watchd dogs. We've done some great things tonight. So, although there seems to be kind of a pileon of a one-sided narrative, we did get to the business of the district. And

there's also a close session where we can't talk about what we covered, but you can bet postcards came up. And I'll leave it at that. I want to say that Dr. Kamroski and I especially because we've worked together for years now have tried really hard. >> You guys, will you please respect Mrs. Wearman? I'm actually calling out Edgar

Diaz. You guys are talking in the background. Please be respectful. Thank you. I know you're looking weird, but I'm watching you talk. Please. Thank you. Keep it down. I watched you. Thank you. We'll give you 10 more seconds, Miss Wman. There is there are people in the audience talking and I'm looking right at you. Thank you. Dr. Kamroski and I have done our best to

make promises and to keep them. We have been consistent and I think even the people who haven't loved our policies would probably say that. We stand by what we're doing. It is about protecting kids, advocating for families, serving the community. We haven't done it perfectly. I'm the first to admit it. There's been chaos from many sides. So,

although it looks very sided tonight, just know going through recalls, losing a trustee out of town, going through weaponized lawsuits, it's been quite the journey. and we're still here serving because we do love the community and we do want to do what's right by the kids. So, I think that's the important message tonight. Unfortunately, we are in a

campaign year and you're going to hear different sides throughout and that's fine. But I try to speak as honestly and truthfully as I can humbly saying we did accomplish some things tonight and there are clashing world views on every level of government and there's no way to make it pretty sometimes. I don't disagree with some of you. I'm

doing the best that I can do and will continue to do it. I give you my word on that and thank you for being here and for listening. >> Thank you, Miss Worman. Dr. Anderson, >> I don't have any board comments, but um I tell everyone I come from a family of teachers, so I am interested in

learning more about the time off um procedures for teachers with sick leave. Um, it's something that I'm a little bit familiar with with uh just the employee development department, but um if there's anything that Dr. VeZ can do or Mr. Diaz can do, I would be in the future interested in learning more about that. >> can I have my time back? My mic wasn't

on. >> It's only 5 seconds. First TE is a youth organization that enables kids to build the strength of character to empower them through a lifetime of new challenges through integrating the game of golf with a life skills curriculum. Dr. Woods and I worked on bringing them into the district for months and I'm happy to say that we're going to be doing a pilot in

March and they're going to be on our elementary campuses at least on one and hopefully first t will move to the middle schools. But that's something that this is what we should be doing as board members, okay? bringing these opportunities to kids and we're not doing them because we're not being accountable to the people. We're supposed to be a

democratic body and respectful respectful of constitutional rights. Yet, what we've seen from this current board majority increasingly resembles not representative governance, but authoritarian control rooted in a rigid ideological agenda. This m the majority's alignment with the 412 church is not an issue of private faith. It's an issue of public policy being dictated by a single religious and

political movement. This board's decisions from curriculum restrictions to the silencing of student and parent voices re reflect a disturbing trend called right-wing authoritarianism. Kamaskki and Wearsma are following directives that align more with totalitarian governance than with democratic principles. Even more troubling is their ethical proposal by Kamaroski and Wesma that board members shall not direct, encourage, solicit, organize or facilitate student

participation. This is an unconstitutional restriction on free speech and civic engagement. precisely the kind of suppression that's extreme authoritarian regimes use to maintain control. It not only deprivives students of their first amendment rights but also violates our duty to foster civic education and critical thinking. Under the 14th amendment, parents have the right, as they have stated in the past,

to direct, control, and manage their child's education. with my meeting with that student, I had parental consent, cons custodial authority, which you want to just completely dismiss. Yet, this board majority routinely usurps that custodial custodial authority whenever it conflicts with their narrative, deciding unilaterally what values children may learn, what voices they may hear. Remember Kamaraskki I will be the

the final arbiter of your values. This is states of substituting its moral judgment >> for your family >> Mr. Barham >> and it is dangerous. >> Thank you >> Mr. Schwarz. [applause] I want to start out by apologizing to my family because I promised I would not lose my temper tonight and I did. I also want to apologize to Mike and Kim

and Edgar and Kelly and all the parents who are here for [snorts] not focusing Oh, and Jack, I'm sorry. For not focusing on what we're supposed to be doing, focusing on students. That said, I wanted to thank UpNED for her book that she gave us called Civility. I read it and she told me I did not have to do

a book report and I am trying to uh put into practice what was in it. I had three great visits last week to Barnett Elementary and Gardener Middle School for their STEM program. I wanted to thank the principles of Barnett and Luceno for inviting me. It was great. Um, one of the things I have been fighting for is access to attorneys.

Uh, I have not been able to talk to any board attorney because I have not been able to get permission to do it based on the policy and I want to see that changed. Um, I just want to remind everyone on the board that texting is not allowed. It's in the governor's handbook on page 12 unless it is a family emergency.

Um, board governance policy. Dr. Kamaskki, you read uh some of it, but you did not read the end. It says, "All interactions, oh, excuse me. Failure to follow the above protocols may undermine the resolution process and the integrity of the board. Board members are encouraged to adhere to these procedures in good faith to promote transparency, trust, and collaboration. So, I turn to

you, Dr. Anderson, are you willing to meet with me and Dr. VeZ to iron out these issues? >> Yes. >> Thank you. I appreciate it. That's the way we should we should be acting. Uh Mike, you have my apologies. I am sorry that you had to hear that from your students and I promise to do better. Thank you.

Okay. Hey, I just want to start off by saying I got 43 of these. Read them all. Um I wish there were names on them. Not dissing any of it, but it's more personalized when there's names on it. Um yeah, just to clarify something that was said. Um, somebody somebody um conflated when I was talking about special

interest group TVA leadership like I meant all the teachers. No, that's not what I said. Put words into my mouth. Teachers are separate from the leadership of TVA. And so I make that distinction. Um, >> please trying to be respectful and you have to talk. Just thank you. That is the truth. TVA. You know what? The person over there, it's your first

warning. Second one, I'm just going to eject you. We're right at the meeting. We're right at the end of the meeting. You're going to let me talk. Thank you. I've listened to you. Please listen to the board. Now, TVA is a special interest group. They collect union dues for the teachers and they work on the behalf of the teachers. That's their

job. That's their functional role. There's no harm in me saying it's a special interest group. It's just what it is. That is separate from the teachers. So, that's just a point of clarity. >> [clears throat] >> I did a couple site visits, one at Abbey Ranking, and I just want to give a shout out to Mrs. Neielen. She has the current

and and um she has the current what is it? Um oh my gosh, it's it's late. Um lowest no highest attendance out of the elementary schools. >> She has the highest attendance rate. >> Highest attendance rate out of the elementary schools. So, she has this ridiculously huge statue and it goes from elementary to elementary and so I

got I was privileged to take a picture of that with her and Dr. Vez. Um it was really fun visiting Abby Ranky and um then I went down to uh Ranch Vista and the other um school sites on that uh property with David Schlottman and Stephanie and they're miracle workers and there's many of them there. And one

of the things that saddens me is that some members in the community, they might say, "Is that where bad people go or people with behaviors and are there knife fights there and drugs?" And it it it's like it's like this shadow. And I would just encourage somebody if you've never been down there and you meet that staff, you just be blown away. There is

so much one-on-one interactions and personal interactions with those students. There are a lot of them that are introvert introverts. They don't do well on a massive campus. They love the one-on-one interaction. And then when they go to Ranch of Vista or the adult school or SU Susan Ban Nelson, they will often say, "I don't want to go back to

Great Oak or Chapperel or Tmacula Valley High School." Not to diss that. They're like, "I love this one-on-one connection." And the and the amount of time dumped into them and education, it is so awesome. Just go down there and you will see quiet spaces all over and students loving the environment. And like I said, David Schlottman and

Stephanie, they are miracle workers. And they're not alone. there's many of them. So, please go down. I'm giving a strong shout out to that site, especially David Schlottman. Um, I know I'm not supposed to favor people at these 29 sites, but he's my favorite. Sorry. Um, thank you for enduring this meeting. And that's it for my board comments. So,

uh, now we are on to student board comments from Miss Chai. >> Thank you, Dr. Kowski. Okay, everyone knows that I try to avoid getting caught up in the arguments and the politics between trustees, but this time it directly involves me and whichever student sits in this seat during the next school year. So, I'm going to address the amendment to the

student board member bylaw regarding social media messaging. I'd like to take some time to think before I speak. So, now here are my thoughts. I fully understand and respect the intention between behind prioritizing student safety, especially regarding social media. From my personal experience, however, my social media has remained strictly professional and focused on community engagement and transparency.

During my CSBA training, the primary guidance I received regarding communication with board members was that conversations cannot involve agenda items outside of meetings and that I cannot serve as a communication channel between trustees. Beyond that, the emphasis was on maintaining professionalism and appropriate boundaries. If the board's goal is to protect a student in this position by limiting direct personal communication

between a board member and a student board member, I'm okay with that. But I believe it might be worth considering whether that standard should apply consistently across all forms of communication, not solely social media platforms. For transparency, I would like to note that Mr. Barham has openly mentioned our communication over social media and Dr. Anderson did not mention

that we have also communicated over text message with my personal phone number, but I view these two channels of communication as equal and neither my parents nor I are bothered by them, which is why I just ask for consistency across the messaging platforms. When the next student is in this role, will trustees be prohibited from following them on Instagram but be allowed to call

them on the phone? I know that I'm the first in this role and we're all learning together, but I want to help us learn. My intention in sharing this is not to challenge the board's authority, but to encourage clarity in how these expectations are defined and applied. I simply ask that the guidelines be uniform and clearly articulated moving

forward. And I have a little bit of time. Two weeks ago, I met with the superintendent student council for our second meeting of the year. The theme was from vision to experience how TVUSD values show up for students. Um most importantly, these students shared that feeling heard comes down to simple daily interactions. whether adults invite input, explain reasoning, and create

safe spaces for students to speak honestly. I am honored to serve as this bridge between students and the district. As always, these middle and high school students are incredible. Um, and okay, also student board member application, it officially opens next Monday, March 2nd. If you are interested in applying for this position, I highly, highly encourage you to come talk to me.

Please know what you are signing up for. Last Thursday, I had the honor of attending Summit Academyy's inclusive playground design project as a guest. These kids are amazing. Their project, I was genuinely blown away. It was incredible. And this Friday is um culture fair at Chapper High School that I'm hosting. So, I hope to see you guys

there. Thank you. And I hope everyone has a wonderful evening. [applause] >> Thank you, Miss Ch. >> Okay, I believe we're on to superintendent comments. Dr. >> and Miss Chai, I just want to comment you did such an excellent job leading that um student superintendent group and I know Dr. Kamaskki and Dr. Schw or Mr. Schwarz were there. So, thank you. Okay,

first I want to acknowledge the work behind tonight's math um instructional materials recommendation. I want to thank the board for um unanimously approving the math materials. It's important to re reiterate reiterate the integrity and fidelity of the process that led us to this space. This was thoughtful, transparent, and a student- centered effort that included educators, site leaders, families, and members of

the community. I want to extend my sincere appreciation to everyone involved, especially our parent representatives on the parent advisory committee who gave their time, their voice throughout the process. I would also like to recognize Miss Wema and Mr. Barham for serving as representatives on that committee and engaging collaboratively in pretty rigorous and meaningful review of this. I want to

thank the hundreds of students who provided feedback. Their perspectives grounded this work in authentic classroom experiences and experiences and it truly mattered. [snorts] This is also our final board meeting before the state of the district, a journey to excellence which will which will take place on Monday, March 9th at the Golden Bear Theater. I hope our community will

join us as we reflect on our progress, celebrate our successes, and share our vision for the future. As an example of that excellence, I would like to recognize that the TVHS boys and Chapperel High School girls wrestling teams, both of whom received and earned CIF championships. Several individual athletes from both of those teams advanced to state level competition. And

this is a tremendous accomplishment and a reflection of student dedication, strong coaching, and the support of the entire school community. I want to congratulate the students, the staff, the families, and the school sites. And lastly, I am never going to apologize for believing that this family is a this district is a family. Family does not mean perfect, but it does mean that even

when we do not always agree, we work through challenges together. We resolve issues constructively and we commit to working with one another, not against one another, in service of meaningful outcomes and making things making better be things better for our students. I would like to thank Edgar and Cynthia for their open ongoing conversations that we have had. And with that said,

thank you everyone and have a wonderful evening. >> Thank you, Dr. Uh Dr. and I worked on this uh what I'm about to read to you and it's just to encourage board members on the future agenda items. So before we move on, I want to take a moment to clarify the purpose of future agenda items portions of our meeting. This is the appropriate

to raise potential agenda items for consideration. Ask clarifying questions or request future discussion. Raising the items here helps to ensure transparency. This is super important. Allows staff adequate time to prepare. This is burdening staff when board members aren't using this and saying, "Hey, I'd really like to introduce something for next meeting just to give you a heads up." for example,

actually I won't even use that, but it really helps district staff to anticipate how to prepare better for the meeting than on the spot just jamming it in. So anyways, submitting items at the last minute places an unnecessary burden on staff and limits our ability to have an informed productive discussions. As we move forward, I encourage trustees to

use the agenda item to surface requests in a timely and respectful manner consistent with our governance role and our shared commitment to supporting staff and serving students. Well, I'll give you an example. Two months ago, I said I'm going to bring the ethics bylaw for revision. It's outdated. It was here tonight. I let everybody know in future

agenda items. Just encouraging the board to do the same. So, we have future agenda items. I don't know if Len has it on the screen. >> These are I'm just going to read off. An information report will be provided on March 10, 2026 on the following items. Facilities report uh facilities master plan review projects update maintenance and

operations second and term in action bullying and student discipline strategic plan update CTE update safety and security update. And now we are at the point where the announcement of the next meeting, the next regular open session business. Oh, excuse me. Are there any board members who want to bring future agenda items? It's getting late. >> I do.

>> Mr. Barham, [clears throat] >> we need to revisit board policy 9124 >> specifically. Can you tell us? >> Attorney. >> Okay. Attorney. >> Attorney contact. >> Is there something that you want to >> I want to look at the whole I want to look at the whole policy. >> Rumor had it that you that it might be

open. I'm not saying necessarily you that maybe board members not just you know giving uh what is it allowing board members to contact the attorney. I mentioned this months ago I got shot down. I don't know when it was and I I was open to it. So is it something along those lines as well? >> It's it's that and there and there's

other things too. >> Right. >> I mean Right. >> Yeah. I mean it's just it's I think we need to look at the whole policy. Um I don't want it's late. >> Yeah. But >> we need to look at the summaries, how we contact, who can contact, >> what's contact. >> Yeah. I mean, we need to look at

everything because we have to be able to represent our constituents. And when we have legal questions, people who are not in positions of leadership to me, need to be able to contact an attorney. >> So, that's where I'm going. >> I appreciate that. So is Dr. Mr. Schwarz, >> I want to make sure we revisit the um

cure and correct letter that was put off the agenda tonight because I have questions about it. I voiced them at the Never mind. Uh we need to make sure it's back on the agenda. >> Yeah, I believe it's uh pushed all those uh information reports. Um okay, any other board members? Mrs. Worma, Dr. Anderson? No, >> I have a I have I mean can I I want to

ask a question of uh Dr. Vez. >> Sure. And then Dr. Vez wants to specify something. >> Dr. Vez, are all of these facilities report maintenance? Is that going to go in? That's not going to be presented here. It's going to go in your report, right? >> So, yeah, Mr. Barnum, that's a great question. I was actually just going to

bring up and see if I could get um the board um consensus in term of taking bullying bullying and student dis and discipline strategic plan update CTE update and safety and security move to possibly the April meeting because that's a lot of agenda items for one meeting. I agree if we could take those four and push and

>> we need one more consenting board member. >> I would agree. >> Right. You got the consent. >> Okay. Okay. And what I I I also think Mr. Barham, just like we did tonight with the VAPA, um we'd like to do just a written report and then go ahead and address it if the board has any questions.

>> That's fine. >> But but I think that we need to add something. We need to add the content of all of those postcards. And I don't know what that's going to look like, but special education staffing, and I know we've talked about this in subcommittees. etc. But this is evolving and I think that we've got some issues here that we need

to >> address >> address in terms of staffing safety training and it's not just coming from >> TVEA and the teachers. It's coming from the community, too. I mean, I'm getting stuff all the I did a a post on Instagram about special education a couple of days ago and I got a slew of comments from parents um that even say

that I'm not even addressing the issues properly. So, I think we need to talk about those things openly here. >> Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Any other items? >> Can we do that? >> You can you can work with Dr. VeZ to bring it to the next meeting. >> Okay. >> Okay. Uh the meeting is adjourned on Tuesday, February 24, 2026 at 11:12.

Thank you for attending.