Board of Education — March 10, 2026

Okay, the regular meeting of the governing board of education is called to order by myself, Dr. Joseph Komrosky at 4:00 p.m. on Tuesday, March 10th, 2026 at the district office conference center. We're at the approval of the agenda. Are there any requests for changes to the agenda? What I'll do is I'll go in voting order and we'll go one by one.

Ms. Wiersma. No. Okay. Dr. Anderson. I just wanted to postpone the There's like a letter somewhere. Okay, we'll come back. >> Yeah, go come back to me. All right, Mr. Barham. And and give us all at once, please. I'm going to try. All right. Okay. Let me I I'd like to give two at a time if that's okay. I'm not going to ask Dr.

Komrosky to I'm not going to say why or we're doing these things or whatever, but I would like to just an up or down vote on each one. I'm not going to say why, so we can just move it. Um but I would like an up or down on the ones that I would like to remove. I'll have Linnae call roll on on

two by two. Okay. Sounds good. All right. So, I move to amend the agenda by removing 14A and 14C. Do I have a second? Second. All right, give me a second. Could you say that again? Yeah, it's I move to remove >> on action or information? >> On on action, 14A and C. Do I have and we have a second.

14 [clears throat] A and C. A and C? >> Mhm. Okay. Linnae, would you mind calling roll? Sure. Wiersma? No. Anderson? No. Barham? Yes. Schwartz? >> Yes. Komrosky? No. Okay, those items going to remain. Next two items? Um next two items would be I move to amend the agenda by removing 14I and 14G. Second. Okay, we have a motion and a second.

Board committees G and then I. Okay, Linnae, would you mind calling roll? Wiersma? No. Anderson? No. Barham? Yes. Schwartz? >> Yes. Komrosky? No. Okay, those will remain. Okay. I think that's it for me. Okay, thank you, Mr. Schwartz. Yes. Um I um move to I move I'm sorry, move to amend the agenda by removing the item I

put on it. Uh item number 4A 9124 attorney policy. Do I have a second? Uh hold on. Mr. Schwartz, I'm trying to find out. Yep, 14 Oh, give me a second. 4A. Yep, 4 There we are, 4A. Attorney um Second. Okay. Um Linnae, would you mind calling roll? Can I ask a qualifying question? Sure. So, if we're not looking at that, the

does that mean what is currently on the books stands as is? >> Yes, cuz there's no additions. Okay. Thank you. Linnae, would you mind calling roll? Wiersma? Yes. Anderson? Yes. Barham? Yes. Schwartz? Yes. Komrosky? Yes, 5-0 that item's removed, 4A. Okay, Mr. Schwartz, anything else? Yes. Um I move to amend the agenda by removing items 14B and action item is 14B

and action item 14H. Second. So, that's parliamentary procedures and then 14, what else? H. Is that it? Student board member, okay. Um Linnae, would you mind calling roll? Wiersma? No. Anderson? No. Barham? Yes. Schwartz? >> Yes. Komrosky? No. Okay, those items remain. Anything else, Mr. Schwartz? Um no. Okay, then I'd take a motion and a second. Oh, that's right. Excuse me. Um

Dr. Anderson. Um I motion to remove action item 15. Let me see. It's the letter to read a letter and you I will second that. And um while this item is properly agendized, I'm uncomfortable discussing a student matter in open session, particularly given the potential legal implications. For that reason, I would make a motion to table. We already have a motion and a

second. So, if the board wishes to continue this conversation, I recommend we have our attorney review the matter and advise us on the appropriate way appropriately on the way to proceed. Outside of that, Linnae, would you mind calling roll? We have a motion and a second. >> I ask a clarifying question? >> Sure. I was under the impression that that was

under legal review already and that it was to come back March the 10th, which is today. Mhm. So, I properly agendized it to answer your question and I don't feel comfortable having this on the agenda due to what I just read out. Um and we'll see we'll see if we get the votes. You don't know. Linnae, would you

mind calling roll? Sure. Wiersma? Yes. Anderson? Yes. Barham? No. Schwartz? Could you please read the motion again cuz I'm unclear as to exactly what it said. To move to remove action item 15. Okay, Schwartz? Temporarily, forever, until the next meeting? No, they're just they want to remove it. Oh, okay, no. Komrosky? Yes. So, that is removed and if that comes

back, it could come back potentially at the next meeting. Legal can probably look into that for us. Okay. Um so, now I'll take a motion and a second to approve the agenda as is. Moved. Second. We have a motion and a second. Linnae, would you mind calling roll? Wiersma? Yes. Anderson? Yes. Barham? No. Schwartz? No. Komrosky? Yes.

Agenda approved, 3 to 2. Thank you. Announcement of closed session items in accordance with the government code section 54957.7, the board will now meet in closed session for consideration of the items listed in section E. Do you have any public comments? Yes, we have two. Okay, and I'll just read this off. The governing board welcomes public comments. This is the time for closed

session public comments. Any person wishing to provide a public comment to the board is required to attend the meeting. Speakers are limited to 3 minutes to a maximum total of 30 minutes per item for comments on the closed session agenda item. And we'll take those comments now. First up is Edgar Diaz. I'm sorry, Cindy Hurley followed by Edgar Diaz.

First up is Cindy Hurley followed by Edgar Diaz. Good evening, board staff. This afternoon, I'm here as president of Temecula Valley Educators Association before you go to closed session and to your bargaining consult, we want to make sure that you know, that's I've talked about before, that TVA is looking for ongoing compensation for this year. Uh for as we are moving on through

uh the meeting, we'll have many different comments as far as like as far as testimonials from our members. We are here today to focus on safety, which is March, so March for safety. I don't think there's going to be a lot of marching in here, don't worry about that. But, we are looking to make sure that there is ongoing compensation to

address the increasing cost that pertain to medical insurance that has continued increase through the year. Even though it may be a 6 or 8% increase, our employees carry the full cost of that, so it's much more than a 6 to 8% cost to their budgets, which means that every year employees are making less with the same dollars. We're continuing to

advocate for safe and stable schools and making sure that our salaries are competitive to neighboring districts will stop the churn of people leaving us once they are fully trained within a few years. I happen to come out of classroom where a full full of teachers and aides who were just sitting down and debriefing and they're like, "Oh,

coincidence you're here cuz we were just looking at other districts to see how much they paid cuz some of us are thinking about moving." And that's the part that's going to affect us even more when people look to our neighboring districts just in the area and decide that they need to go somewhere else because even a starting teacher can make an increase of

close to a thousand dollars a month. We also noticed that there was an increase to the board stipend to reflect on the cost that are also coming in for board members as well. It would be very respectable respectful to make sure that that also happens to go to your classified and certificated employees. When I was talking out to different

locals over the weekend, I ran into some members from Mount Mount Sac and I believe that they bargained a pass-through where the cola just goes straight to the employees and I think that takes effect this year. That's my time or at least I'm done with that for today for now. Hello. So, year after year we show up,

we do our jobs, we educate, we serve, we deliver. And year after year, we see we're seeing deadlines being missed. Deadlines that are not set by us, but by you. We're working without a bargained increase to compensation. Ask yourself what other profession accepts this. Would a contractor build your house without a signed agreement? Would a lawyer take your case without terms in

writing? Would you go to work every day without knowing what you're owed? Nobody would. And neither should we. And while we wait, while this board does not prioritize teachers, our costs are going up. Our health insurance premiums increase each year, every single year. But, our salary, not so much. So, let's be clear about what this means. We're

actually earning less than we did before, not in theory, but in dollars, in paychecks, in bills. And the board is kind of giving us a pay cut through inaction. Meanwhile, our neighboring districts are not standing still. They're offering competitive salaries, they're moving their salaries up, they're investing in their people, and because of that, they're going to attract and retain the

best talent in the area. If we can't compete on compensation, we can't compete for the teachers, the staff, the professionals that our students and families deserve. The best candidates have choices and right now, we're not giving them a reason to choose us. Over the next few years, many teachers, including myself, will be retiring and the district needs to attract the best

teachers to continue to be the best. If we miss deadlines the way that these deadlines are being missed, if we showed up unprepared year after year with no accountability, we would have consequences. There's always accountability for us. Why isn't there accountability here? Why can't you dedicate time to invest in your teachers who have proven to give you the best return on your investment?

Parents don't care who wins the petty shots that you guys take at each other. They care about the kids having their best education under the best conditions. We're not asking for a favor, we're asking what was promised, a fair contract on time, no delays, no excuses, no more treating our livelihoods as an afterthought. Procrastination is a choice and the public sees that choice

in how you value your teachers and we're asking you to make a different one. Thank you. >> [applause] >> We will now go into closed session.

Excuse me. Can I have your attention, please? Hello. Can I have your attention, please? Thank you. So, we have a lot of people here for recognitions tonight. What we're going to do this, we're going to do this in a couple different stages. So, right now we have a very large group of people being recognized. We also have a smaller but still

large group outside. What we're going to do, and I'll explain this to the group outside as well, the pair of professionals are going to get recognized first. Uh once that happens and we can take some pictures or potentially take them outside, we're then going to bring the next group in so we can get everybody. It's the only way we can do this and come within

uh the fire marshall's good graces. So, we're going to do that and it gets started shortly. You can you can go ahead. Okay. I'm going to hand it over to Dr. VeZ and she's going to introduce the pair of professionals. Can you hear the mic? Yeah. Yeah. All right. Well, good evening everybody. Thank you all so much. I

still know we have some people outside. I was just Thank you all. I was just telling Dr. Kamroski, wow, you guys brought a lot of family members, which is pretty awesome. We did not account for that. So, give yourself a round of applause for that. So, I'm going to introduce Dr. Dr. McTazznney in just a second, but what I'd like to ask is we're

going to honor the elementary paraprofessionals first. So, if you are an elementary paraprofessional here tonight to receive an award, I am going to ask you to come forward toward the podium so we can relieve some seats and some spots to let everybody else in the door. So, if you're an elementary paraprofessional being honored tonight, please come forward.

Okay. And can I before you begin, Dr. McTazznney, Miss McDow, Mrs. McDow, can you please ensure that if we have any elementary instructional assistants outside in line that they are able to come in at this point? Thank you. We'll give it just a moment. Good to go. All right. Okay. So, tonight, this is such an exciting night for us. We love these

nights so much. We're going to recognize the outstanding PAR professionals in in and across our district. As parah educators, you guys make such a difference in the role of supporting students and teachers every single solitary day in the work that you do, providing encouragement, care, individualized support that makes a real difference in our classroom. So, let's give them a huge round of applause.

Awesome. So at this time I am going to ask Dr. McTazznney. He is already at the podium and he podium and he's going to recognize this exceptional team members from the elementary level. Good evening. I love that you guys are up here as well. This is fantastic. And again thank you to our uh fantastic support system that's out here for them uh to celebrate them

as well. So tonight, the We Elevate Committee, a team of teachers, classified staff members, and administrators dedicated to recognizing and and celebrating people who make TVUSD special. We have the privilege tonight to honor some of the quiet heroes from our school community, our paraprofessionals. Every day across our district, PAR professionals work side by side with students and teachers, helping learning

come to life. They guide students academically, support them social and emotionally, and are often the steady presence students rely on throughout the school day. They are there during moments of frustration, helping a student push through a challenge. They celebrate breakthroughs um big and small. They listen, they encourage, and they help our students to build the confidence and skills needed to succeed.

Tonight, each school site selected a paraprofessional who exemplifies dedication, selflessness, and a student- centered heart. These individuals represent the incredible work happening across our district every single day. They are the true champions for students and invaluable partners to our teachers. To all of our paraprofessionals, we see you, we appreciate you, and we thank you for being the champions for our kids. Thank you so much.

And before we call out their names, we'd like to welcome up Mr. Diaz, who'd like to say a few words about our fantastic pair of profess professionals as well. I'd like to congratulate you and honor you for being here. You guys are incredible partners as our fellow colleagues in education in classrooms making sure that students are able to attain the

skills that they need for English language acquisition to make sure that the IEP goals are met for individual students with kinds of behaviors or any kind of skills that they have. Our your colleagues rely on you. You are the heartbeat. You're able to make the stuff happen, the magic happen in the classroom. It is because of you that your the teachers that you work with

come back and say, "I had a great day in class today." because your efforts are so needed, we actually need more of you. I and thank and thank you for all Yeah. Thank you for all of you coming out in support. It's a great honor to have in this partnership and recognition working with TVUSD, Tmacula Valley Educators Association and

CSCA working in in partnership to make sure that we have an opportunity to recognize your efforts here today. Thank you. Good evening. All right. Now, with the hardest jobs tonight, we're going to welcome up from our We Elevate Committee, Mrs. Tala, who's going to announce our elementary pair of professionals. Sure. Sure. Good evening everyone. As an itinerant um employee here at the district,

I know that every one of these recognitions is very very welld deserved. So, congratulations. I will begin to read the names for the elementary schools. From Alamos, it's Jared Stafford. You can come on up and get your certificate. Next is Laura Paige, Vicky Marita, Alicia Wright, Pña, Amber, Justice, Allison Frabel, Jessica Preer, congratulations. Bernice Granados, Cammy Fit,

Seth Bon, Marian Herrera Deoba, Maria Cabrera, Darlene Vaughn, Maria Bereda Desalinas, congratulations, Jennifer Jennifer Kelson, I hope I got that name right, Lassera Hernandez, Dallas Traus, and last but not least, Andrea Garst. And last but not least, Aelia from Home Instead. Thank you. All right, as we're doing those pictures for our elementary, if you're one of our secondary pair of

professionals, please come right on up. You're great. Okay, guys. I'm gonna bump you though. I'm gonna take a whole bunch and then we're going to call up family. I mean, if you're a family member of one of these famous people, we invite you to come up and take some pictures. Now, Once again, congratulations to our elementary pair

of professionals. Thank you for all that you do. And to read our secondary names, we're going to welcome up Mrs. Lopez. Yes, I am. Is it middle school and high school? Yes. Yes. Great question. All right. All right. All right, folks. Good evening. Um, I'm here tonight to announce all of our secondary pair professionals. Congratulations to all of you. And good evening to the rest of the

to the rest of the room here. I'm sorry to have my back towards you. All right, starting with uh Bella Vista Middle School. Shredda Shaith, is she here tonight? Congratulations, Shrada. Day middle school, Caitlyn Matakon, Gardener Middle. Kristen Langri, Margarita Middle School. Lindsay Ernnandez, Tmacula Middle School. Kathleen Rowan to somebody I I work very closely with from

Veil Ranch Middle, Rhonda Celis. Congratulations from Chapperel, Kathleen Ria. Congrats. Also from Chapperel, Samantha Willowit from Great Oak, we have Ellie Boniker Terrani. Also from Great Oak, we have Fatima El De El Ela Ela from Tmacula Valley or Tmacula Valley High School. Valerie Dreer also from Tmacula Valley High School. April Crawford Rancho Vista High School. We have Lily

Gomez. Congratulations, Lily. From Susan Nelson High School, we have Brandy Mitchell. Congrats. And that is it. shoulder. Scooching real close. Oh, that's so good. Awesome job. Good. Before you guys leave, Thank you. Okay, we're going to give you like two more minutes to get your pictures. Yep. And then we're going to have some other other um individuals we're going to honor tonight.

Okay, thank you all so much. Now, I'd like to invite up to the podium our director of safety and security, Mr. Brian Pastor, who has some um heroes in action award. Oh, I'm sorry. Here I am. All right. Good evening, executive cabinet and members of the board. Tonight, I'd like to take a moment to recognize the outstanding response from

our team at Gardener Middle School in an emergency situation that took place last month. A fire had been started in one of the student restrooms, creating a dangerous situation. Thanks to the quick actions of the campus security team and strong site leadership, the situation was handled safely and very efficiently. I would like to commend our campus security team

and the site support staff for their bravery and immediate response to the fire. Their efforts to enter the restroom, extinguish the fire, secure the area, and initiate our emergency notification system for further support played a critical role in managing the situation quickly and safely. Our teachers and students also deserve recognition for remaining calm and following directions during the evacuation.

Their cooperation helped ensure the process went smoothly, safely, and all students evacuated calmly and orderly to their predes designated safe location that they have practicing regular drills many times throughout the year. I would also like to recognize our site principal, Mrs. Cory Gyos whose calm leadership adherence to our safety protocols and helped ensure the students and staff

were evacuated quickly and efficiently. Her guidance during the incident was instrumental in maintaining order and protecting everyone on campus. Finally, I extend my sincere appreciation to our incredible SRD team and the DEF and the fire department to their immediate response to the incident. Their partnership and dedication to our schools and greater community helped bring the situation under control quickly

and effectively. Incidents like these remind us the importance of preparation, teamwork, real-time communications between TVUSD and emergency services, and strong site leadership. We are truly grateful for the collective efforts by all that helped keep our students and staff safe. With that said, I would like to now invite Principal Gyos up to say a few words. Uh good evening. Uh, thank you so much for helping

me to recognize these four members of the gardener community whose quick thinking and commitment to student safety made a real difference during our recent incident. Unfortunately, Juan is under the weather today and can't be with us, but Juan, I hope you're watching. Um, so you can hear all the good things we're going to say about you. Our student Ameliano first responded to the fire,

immediately running into the office to alert staff that there was an emergency and ensuring that the response began right away. Juan immediately responded and entered the restroom without hesitation. His goal, he said, was to make sure no students were inside or trapped. Moments later, Bob followed with a fire extinguisher and worked to help contain and put out the fire.

When they didn't come back out right away, Valerie stepped in out of concern, checking to make sure that both Juan and Bob were safe and didn't need medical attention. While we never want to experience a situation like a fire on campus, what we do want is people who prioritize student safety and act quickly to protect those around

them. Each of these individuals did exactly that. There were many staff members who played important roles that day. those who quickly evacuated students, our instructional assistants and teachers who helped reunite families and provided support during stressful moments. But Ameliano, Juan, Bob, and Val were truly the cornerstone in making sure the fire was quickly addressed and the situation did not grow into something more

serious. None of them wanted this recognition tonight. Uh, one of them said just a thank you and a chocolate chip cookie would have been fine. And so I brought the cookies. Um, but they really deserve the recognition and their humility and willingness to step in and do what's right without expecting anything in return truly epitomizes who they are as people. So, Ameiliano,

Juan, Bob, and Val, we thank you for your courage, your teamwork, and your unwavering commitment to the safety of our school community. for some pictures. We can Here we go. Thank you so much. Okay, we'll start up in about two to five minutes on recognitions with the student spot. Sorry, with the student spotlights and we just got to let them in.

Good evening and welcome to the regular open session meeting of Tmacula Bal Unified School District Board of Education March 10, 2026 at 6:06 p.m. The board has been in close session since 400 p.m. In attendance this evening are governing board members, myself, Dr. Dr. Joseph Kamaroski, Dr. Melinda Anderson, Mrs. Jennifer Whisma, Mr. Steven Schwarz, Mr. Emil Baram, Miss Melissa Chai,

student board member, secretary to the board, Dr. Kimberly, and the executive team. We will now have the pledge of allegiance, and this is going to be recited by the Great Oak High School, ASL Honor Society, Haley Levens, Andrea Smith, Lindseay Colo, Jordan Hart, and Sel Riley. And let me just give a shout out. They were actually at opening day baseball and they did the pledge

of allegiance there this um weekend with over,200 kids in attendance. So we are honored to have you. If you can please remove your hats if you're wearing any and place your hands over your hearts. Ready? Begin. I pledge algiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation

under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Thank you so much. Let's give a shout out. And I I got some gifts for you. You hand out too. You hand out too. Yeah. We're down. We went from cooking to here. Sure. Just Thank you. Okay, thank you once again. Now we're on to board president comments. I'm

just going to read a fun fact about this district. We're also proud to recognize several campuses that earned the Purple Star School designation for their commitment to supporting military connected students and families. I just want to stop right there and say thank you to all the veterans out there and military activity. This recognition is awarded to schools that

demonstrate a strong and intentional system of support for military families, including identifying a dedicated staff liaison, providing resources for students, transitioning between schools, and creating programs that help military families feel connected and supported within the school community. And in a community like Tmacula where many of our families serve or have served in the military, this recognition is especially meaningful.

This year, Abby Ranki Elementary School, Alamos Elementary School, Chapperel High School, French Valley Elementary School, Great Oak High School, James Day Middle School, Nicholas Valley Elementary School, Paloma Elementary School, Susan Levia Elementary, and Tmacula Valley High School earned it distinction. These recognitions reflect the outstanding work happening across our schools as we continue preparing students for college, career, and the future while ensuring

our military families feel welcome, supported, and connected in our community. Thank you again. And additionally, last night we had the first um state of the district uh I want to say production brought on by Dr. Vez and crew. We had heavy hitters in attendance. Heather Holmes from the Bachonga Educational Foundation, Abbott, their Cardiovascular Center, Economic Development Coalition, PTA president,

Riverside County Superintendent Dr. Edwin Gomez, uh Mayor Alexander, Alan Anne Pulsifer with Crystal Apple Awards. This was I I can't even describe this in words if you were not there. the amount of work that went into this centered on the students, executive staff, the teachers, it was mind-blowing. And I just want to give a special shout out because I told Dr. Kimberly in

the middle of the meeting and I go, the only word that I can describe this whole thing is special. It makes it makes members of the community want to be a part of the story of TVUSD. So, I just a huge shout out to you, Dr. Vles, and the team that worked on this. It was awesome. And the actor is the assistant superintendent.

Good job. Um, read out loud. Uh, session, um, read, uh, the action taken in close session. Actions taken in close session must be reported to the public once closed session ends. Today's close session began at 4 p.m. The board of education took the following action in close session. Dr. Anderson asked the board clerk that I have the vice clerk read this out. Mrs.

It was moved by member Schwarz and seconded by member Anderson to deny the claim for damages AJ-R received on February 17th, 2026. The vote was 50. It was moved by member Anderson and seconded by member Wearsma to approve providing certificated administrative employees number 1 91083 and number 34212 with written notice that they shall be released from their administrative

position at the conclusion of the current school year June 30th 2026 and reassigned to a teaching position for the 2026 2027 school year. The vote was 5. Thank you, Miss Worman. And now we will go to the student spotlight. Up first, Chapperel High School. Oh, you were supposed to Good evening, Superintendent VeZ, board members, and cabinet members. My name is Genevie Hua,

Chappro's ASP president, and I'm Kaden Twist, Chappro ASB Secretary and Treasurer. Thank you for having us tonight. This past month, we had some exciting events on campus. On Friday, the 27th, we held our first ever culture fair, which was created and led entirely by our students here at Chaparel. This event was hosted by our student board member Melissa Chai,

and featured performances, a fashion show, and food representing many different cultures. Our seniors also kicked off our annual game of senior survivors where seniors have to outwit, outplay, and outlast their classmates in the semester long competition. We're also proud to recognize that 473 of our senior scholars met or exceeded proficiency standards in one or more CASP subjects. To celebrate their achievement, we

randomly selected students to receive 30 extra graduation tickets, two VIP graduation tickets, and a yearbook. Our ASB leaders also spent last Thursday and Friday visiting Isabelle Barnett, Tmacula Elementary, Nicholas Valley, French Valley, Los Alamos, and Susan Leavia elementary schools to celebrate ReadAcross America, inspiring our younger students to become lifelong readers. Our varsity wrestlers also had an incredible

month. Jackson Smith placed eighth in state. Aaron Thompson received the pursuing victory with honor sportsmanship award. Dylan Natselli made it to the third day of the state tournament. and Maddie Ramirez became the first female wrestler in chapro history to win a match at state. We are also proud of our dancers who had an amazing season. Our varsity boys and JV

dance teams took first place at the USA dance competition and all of our teams performed at their spring showcase. Our varsity dance team also performed at Susan Leavia Elementary School to celebrate their 20th anniversary. Our girls water polo team also had an incredible run this season, making it all the way to CIF and making and beating the team that knocked them out of

CIF last year. We also hosted our first ever stunt showcase highlighting our amazing stunt team with giveaways, games, raffles, and even a teacher performance. They also made it to the final four in their most recent tournament. And we are Puma proud. We would also like to thank Deputy Bowers who has served as our school resource officer for the past three years and

has helped keep our campus a safe place where students can focus on their education. Please en please enjoy this short video highlighting some of the some of the events from the past month. We look forward to sharing even more with you in the future. Have a pumatastic evening. So many tears I'm crying. So much pain inside it over till it's over.

So many years we've tried and kept another life cuz baby it ain't over till it's over. Too many tears of great. Thank you, Chapperel. Next up, we have Great Oak High School. Hello and thank you for having us back. I'm Abby. And I'm Cadence. And our last month at Great Oak has been full of fun and learning.

Our juniors have been working hard in their English classes as they take on cast testing. Riptide week has just started. Each day involves class competition and engaging spirit days. We are looking forward to our rally tomorrow and powderpuff on Friday. Come out at 5:00 p. p.m. as our girls take on the powderpuff game. Great Oak Theater Company opens up their spring production

of Big Fish on April 15th and it will be the first ever two week run of a Great Oak production. It will be amazing. Great Oaks Drum Line completed competed at the Tesco Canyon High School on March 7th and is moving on to the SCPA Championship prelims on March 28th. We are also hosting the prelims at Great Oak High School on April 3rd

and April 4th. Math club has been crunching numbers and taking on competitions by storm, most recently at the Murray Costa Colleges Math Field Day. Our newest addition to sports this semester is beach volleyball. Our girls are currently first in league and will be competing in the sand tomorrow. We are proud to share that we have three national merit finalists at Great Oak.

Can't wait to see what great things they achieve. As Dr. Kamroski said, we just got recognized as a Purple Star School. We are so grateful for our military and our community. Last week, we hosted our WSB president elections. Our elected presidents are sophomore presidents Mia Gomez Perez and Grace Johnson. Junior class presidents Sierra Everett, Sandy Hua, and James Menzone. Our

senior class presidents are Michaela Jackson, Corey Gaskins, and Angelina uh Hermes. And our WSP presidents are Juliana Patron, Ale Andrea Alexander, and Hudson Macaro. Our certified staff member of the year is Amy Curtis, and our teacher of the year is Mrs. Stroider. Thank you for all your support and positivity on campus. Thanks for having us, and don't forget to #be the one. Heat.

Heat. Thank you, Great Oak. Next up, we have Tmacula Valley High School. Good evening. We're so excited to be here. I'm Megan. And I'm Alice. Last week was the annual Dance Evolution and it was a production. This show starred our three dance teams, Ignite, Alliance, and Vitality, and they were amazing. But it's also so cool to see all of the other groups joining in

and participating. Our step team performed with the spirited rhythm. Bal Foc numbers with the most beautiful attire. We got to see Ohana Moali, swing dance, and they had guest performances from Margarita Middle School, TMS, and Summit Academy. It always feels like a true community event. This week, the class of 27 started the CASP with English. We've got block schedule, and it's a

fun change of pace. After spring break, they take on math and science. The juniors are shooting for fours and making TVHS look good and earning awards along the way. The goal is to increase our passing scores by 4% in each category. this class can pull it off. We've been loving the yearly dodgeball tournament during lunch. It's a lot of action,

but it's so much fun to watch. There's three games going on simultaneous, and the whole thing starts with started with 17 teams. We were so excited to get four teams for our girls league offering more opportunities to play. The girls league finished last week with the Sugar Babies winning the whole thing. Today during lunch, we had our final two games in the boys league.

Last year's league champs, Stun Cheer, won the Big Orange Battle tournament and walked away with the BOB ring. We are so proud of these girls and can't wait to see how they do this weekend at their next tournament and the rest of the season. Yesterday, boys varsity won the Tomesco Canyon Golf Tournament. Justin Rousmenti shot an impressive

77 75. Spring athletics are in full swing. Two weeks ago, we held our first out of Hiber Nation spring athletic rally for the new season of sports. We've got so many spring sports and wanted to introduce the teams as they as their seasons began. The spring season has the largest number of sports including stunt, beach volleyball, boys

volleyball, boys tennis, lacrosse, swim, football, baseball, boys golf, and track and field, which were all included in the rally. They played some games and brought the energy. We're really looking forward to this next event. On Monday, we're hosting a few elementary and middle school special education programs for some fun on campus. We're calling it Bear Adventures. The students get

to come to high school and experience a bunch of activities that high school schoolers get to do every day. There will be a rotation where they get to do things like build marshmallow catapults with our engineering students, color with our art students, bang on marching drums, learn a dance with alliance, and show school spirit with our cheerleaders.

Last year's event was a highlight. This year it would be an adventure. Coming pretty soon is the annual empty bowls event. We've partnered with Mission Hope Food Pantry to raise funds once again. Chaperel and TV ceramic students have already cranked out over 700 bowls. We're ready. A big shout out to all the local restaurants that have already donated soup and bread. On April

10th, everyone is invited to attend. Get a bowl, enjoy some soup, and make a difference. That's it for us. Thank you for having us. Go Bears. Thank you, TV. Next up, we got Rancho Vista High School. And cabinet members, I am Nico. And I'm Austin. Thank you for giving us the opportunity to speak tonight and share what has been happening at

Rancho Vista High School. The last time you heard from us was in January and we had an exciting start to the third quarter. We kick things off with a surprise assembly where 1909 restaurant generously presented Rancho Vista High School with a $20,000 donation. We are incredibly grateful for their support of our school community. We also hosted our club rush and BBQ lunch

which gave students the chance to explore clubs on campus. In advisory, we hosted a team challenge paper airplane contest where students competed to design and throw the best paper airplanes. Congratulations to the white team for taking the win. We also celebrated our credit crunchers with a special pizza uh pizza lunch. Recognizing students who passed all their third quarter classes. 60% of our students

earn credit cruncher status which is something we are very proud of. A big thank you to our nutrition services for helping us celebrate our ser our students academic success. January 23rd was also our attendance award celebration. 42% of our students received an attendance award for the second quarter. Students who earn this recognition are invited to the riz during

advisory to celebrate their positive attendance. They enjoy a snack while playing games like indoor basketball, pingpong, and video games or simply relaxing, listening to music, and spending time with friends. To close out January, Mr. T organized a threeon-ree basketball tournament, and the winning team earned a pizza party. Congratulations to the champions. In February, we celebrated a wellness week which included

spirit days and activities focused on student well-being. Monday was heart attack day where students and staff searched campus to find a heart with their name and positive affirmations on it. Today was d Tuesday was dynamic duo day focusing on the importance of healthy relationships. Wednesday was very cozy day encouraging students to focus on self-care. And Thursday was music heals the soul reminding

everyone to take a moment to relax and enjoy their favorite songs. Throughout February, our weekly lunch event celebrated black excellence in honor of Black History Month. Students learned about Wally Amos, the founder of famous Amos cookies and Dr. Daniel Hail Williams, one of the first doctors to successfully perform an open heart surgery. We also hosted a guess the flavor

potato potato chip taste contest in or in honor of George Crumb who is credited with inventing the potato chip. On February team challenge was the longest football throw and congratulations to team great for winning the competition. This past week we also hosted an Eagles workshop for all students where they rotated through three sessions designed to be build real world skills.

The sessions included interview preparations and mock interviews, first impressions in the workplace and conflict in the workplace, helping students develop professional communication and career readiness skills. A special thank you to the Tmacula Valley Chamber of Commerce for partnering with us and sending ambassadors, business owners, and community leaders to conduct mock mock interviews and support our students. That's all for now. Thank you again for having

us and allowing us to share what's happening at Rancho Vista High. Sor with style eagles. Thank you. I want to give a special shout out to two that just spoke. Abby for your acting and performance last night was awesome and Melissa Chai and talk about production. when I did with the state of the district address, our student board member Melissa Chai put on

quite a production at the culture fair where most of the board was there. So, I just want to commend you on that. It was really awesome. Before I introduce the school related organization spotlight with TVA, I have to say one of these lifesaver packets dropped out. This is for the ASL club. I'm walking it up there. Welcome up TVA uh Edgar Diaz for the spotlight.

These are your educators that comprise Tmacula Valley Educator Association. And for Tmacula Valley Unified School District, safe and effective schools don't happen by accident. They are built by supported educators. Your educators are faf safe facing safety concerns, increased workloads, and 0% ongoing compensation increase. You just honored our CSA colleagues who do more with less every day in the classrooms that we are in. You've

asked for us to increase student contacts and class sizes, to blend RSP and SDC services, to increase student contact and workload, increase demands for testing and uh interventions for students, longer wait times for assessment and appropriate placements. We now provide tech support for students on an hourly basis. The demands grow on special education and general education classrooms in every respect, and they've

continued to grow for years. All of this weakens our ability to provide the level of support and attention our students deserve. We demand that the district address safety in classrooms for students and staff. Now, with a 0% increase ongoing, the people responsible for keeping schools safer are stretched thin and falling behind financially, putting the stability of our schools

in our district at risk. You cannot build safe schools on the backs of exe exhausted educators. You cannot build the safety of our schools on the backs of our educators, whether they are certificated or classified, who are afraid to come to work or who fear for what may happen when they don't have the supports they need. We can't

support our students if we are not able to pay attention to what's happening everywhere to make sure that there's eyes to ensure that the student is making sure that they are focusing on their instruction through their electric devices that many times are very difficult to monitor. We can't support our students if we're not able to pay for

our medical care for our for our own children. Our bills are getting larger and we cannot afford to live in the community we serve. Our younger teachers are coming in facing exorbitant rents and having a medical package that while it provides some, it's it's expensive. One person told me that onethird of their paycheck goes for medical care. TMCCULA deserves safe and stable schools.

And I'm telling you that your Tmacula Valley Educator Association, the teachers behind me, the assistants, the the classified people that were here, they deserve it. Thank you. Next up, CSCA Kevin Palky. I learned my lesson the first time. I got to hold this up. Um, good evening, board of directors and Dr. Vez. Uh, thank you again for giving us this

opportunity to speak with you. Uh today we're standing in solidarity with our teachers at uh TVA. At CSEA, our mission is to improve the lives of our members, students, and communities. When we as a district provide good paying jobs, health benefits, a solid pension, we not only take care of and retain the best staff, we provide the best education for our students.

When we provide safe working environments, not only to protect our workers, we also do that to reduce risk and the costs associated with those risks. This allows us to spend our communities tax dollars appropriately. By addressing these issues, not just today, but into the future, we're not only taking into effect the individuals that work here, that live in our community,

but we're taking care of the promise that we made as elected officials to our community by taking care of those tax dollars. So again, I thank you all for the work that you're doing, and please look out for our staff, look out for our students, and look out for our community. Thank you. Thank you. Okay, now we're on to information reports. Uh

number one, written reports. We have uh sub item A, facilities development and maintenance operations update. And for these um if any board member wants to have two-minute discussion, these are just written reports um items A through C. and I'll hand it over to Dr. Vz. Mrs. Lash, I know you have a couple of staff members in the audience

available for questions if there's any questions, but the board has received the report. Yes. So, I just want to say thank you for giving us the opportunity to share some of the incredible things that our maintenance and operations department and our facilities development departments do. Our directors are here representing those departments, uh, Mrs. Amber Perez and Mr.

Jason Osborne. Again, no presentation, but if you have questions, we're happy to answer them. Sorry. Can I Sorry. Thanks. I'll give you the floor, Mr. Mar. Thank you. This was a very thorough report and I appreciate it. And I also appreciate the work that um we've done together, Mr. Osborne. You've uh you've been a great help to me along with Mrs. Lash and repairing

uh certain things around our schools that I've seen. So, I thank you for that. Um but Mrs. Lash, I wanted you to speak to this. Um in this report it says the landscape of regulatory compliance continues to expand and to become more costly to the operating budget. Expansion and escalation of fee structures, additional regulatory bodies providing oversight and the financial investment

of manpower all continue to create a challenge for sustaining compliance. So could you be more specific about what you mean by that and uh or whoever did the report um and uh talk about those costs. Sure. So I think being a government agency uh this sentence could apply to literally any division in our organization thinking about special education or accountability and assessment

but it does in fact and I'll let these two talk about how it impacts maintenance and operations or facilities specifically. that um we are constantly being asked for new being given new regulations or new compliance requirements without additional resources to meet those needs. So, Mr. Osborne, do you want to go first? Sure, be happy to. Thank you for the opportunity. Um I just thought of

a few things that I'd like to share with you in terms of how this impacts maintenance and operations. Maintenance operations, as you know, uh gets 3% of the expenditures of the district operate. So, we're very limited in what we have to maintain and take care of the schools, and a large portion of what we get goes to

pay for employees. We have great employees who take care of our schools in a terrific way, but that's a very large expense. Leaves very little for complying with other things. So, I thought of a few things that have just happened in the last few years. And again, I share these with you not because I think they're good, bad,

or indifferent. They're just examples of ways that um the impact is felt regulatory. So, one of them was in second. One second, Jason. Uh, Mr. Barum, your two minutes are up. How does the board feel with granting a little extra time? Supposed to be down to two minutes for these written reports. I I'm okay with extra time. I read the whole

thing, so you can And it's available to the public, too. So, you can be Okay. So, we Well, we'll grant what how many how much more a minute? Uh, okay. Okay, I say two then since Jason's Jason Jason's in midstream. Two minutes. Okay. Uh so one example of one that's occurred recently is the men menstrual equality program that was

brought down by the state and required that the district uh put menstrual dispensers in every basically every female bathroom, every single stall bathroom and at least one male bathroom on campuses. The cost to comply with that for the district over the last three years has been almost $400,000. It's a it again, I'm not saying it's good, better, and different. It's just a cost

that comes out that was not planned for and no additional money came for it. Another example is SB 1383, which is the organic waste um initiative. It requires us to divert 75% of our green organic waste from our school sites away from landfills and to have it composted. It's a great idea, but the cost of complying with

it for the district alone is is about $100,000 a year just for the waste containers. And the manpower required to do it. We still haven't been able to fully implement it and it's been in in law for a couple of years. Uh we keep striving at it, but it's we keep working at it. Another one that we've reached locally is the fire is fire

department inspection fees. For years, districts were inspected by the fire department and and as well they should be, but there were no fees charged. Our fees started last year with the city of Tmacula and then started with the county this year. We're going to be near $50,000 in fees just to inspect our schools. Um, and that continues

to add. Those fees continue to go up. They have u CPI indicators, price indicators built right into them. So, those fees go up every year. And then probably the last one is one that's a challenge that we're facing now and that's SB760. SB760 is going to require potentially to modify some of our facilities so that we're able

to provide an all-gender restroom at every camp on every campus in our school district. Some of our schools already have those built in, some do not. So, we're working on complying with that, but that's going to be a cost that no extra money came with. It's just a simply a mandate that came down. Um, so those are just four examples. there.

There are plenty more, but those are four examples I can think of. Thank you, Jason and Amber. Any other board member? Those are all uh very real costs that we're we're also trying to incorporate into our construction projects as well. So, as we have, you know, all gender neutral restrooms are required as part of part of these requirements,

we're also trying to catch those in our our facilities projects. So, those also add a cost. I would say the the the the regulatory body that I spend the most time with is the Division of State Architecture. They had a um a code update this last December 30, January 1st. Um so all of that when we talk about how our buildings

are the safest places that you could possibly be in a disaster that is a result of division of state architecture and they are adding to those requirements on a regular basis. In fact, they added a fourth discipline. So it used to be just fire life safety, structural and accessibility. they have now also added sustainability. Those reviews do not come for free. So that is part of

one of the things that come to mind for me. Um recently we also had an increase in the um AQMD SQA MD. I'm going thank you that one. Um and they have uh really increased their requirements as well. So, they're now requiring us to um uh oversee the hazmat removal, which again, not not stating whether that is good, bad, or indifferent,

but that comes with a cost, not just for the services, but then we also have those inspectors on every one of our job sites that are passing out fines like it's candy. So, um just a few examples that I I don't want to take any more of your time. Thank you. Okay. Thank you so much, Amber. And Dr.

Valz wanted to Oh, okay. Okay. Okay. Thank you so much. Thank you very much. Thank you very much. So, next we're on to a demand to cure and correct cease and desist letter. Any public comments with anything? Okay, we have two comments. So, we'll take them first. Three. Three. Okay. Thank you. Okay. First up is Danny Molina followed by Jeff PAC.

Good evening board. I would like to request that the board and the community take this uh cure and correct with a grain of salt significantly. Um it's well it was produced by AI first of all. It was greatly written. Um anytime you produce something with AI it creates dashes in the writing that's unnatural. Nobody does that. So, if you don't delete them, you're

telling everybody that AI made it. Just an FYI, but did a did a great job for him. Um, there are certain things that I think need to be addressed in this. It seems to be specifically tailored to attack three board members and this gentleman, Mr. Jeff Pack, he's been doing that for years. I mean, this is the guy who has started the fire of the

chaos from the very beginning. You know, there's a there's a couple P requests that I haven't said anything about um that I would like to address. Like on June 11th, Mr. PAC sent along another AI created email to you, Dr. Anderson. I'm sure you remember this. Um, where he actually talks about, let me find the specific part. He says, "And

hopefully elect better people in those two seats next year is to in all caps, make them ineffective in their roles and take the air out of the room. The more boring the better. You've done a great job with that so far. However, dot dot dot. That was in June 11th of last year. Then in September when you started kind of agreeing with them more,

he sent you another email bashing you for that which I won't read. I'm sure all of these will come public, but it's interesting cuz he by names you specifically pretty significantly in this. And um you know I I think it's pretty obvious what this is. This is just more political fodder for his chaos. And why doesn't he attack the other

two? Maybe it's because you stopped reporting to him. Like another pe another email that I have is uh Sonia Shaw sent the district an email and I found it interesting that email forward that to Mr. Jeff PAC. Why? Why are you reporting to him? That's what it seems like. Another time Tim Thompson sent an email to the board members and

Mr. Schwarz forwarded that to Mr. Jeff Pac. Why? Why are you reporting to him? And it's interesting that his focus here is Brown Act violations, but nothing was done by him or produced or brought to the community or addressed about the initial concern of a Brown Act violation when the first election happened. And also in this P request,

he's communicating with UI Mill and you guys are laughing and joking about the little meeting that happened at the diner in Tmacula. and he said, "Oh, let's not go to that diner, lol." So, it's it's pretty interesting. So, I my point the point of my comments is just come up here and ask the community and the board to please consider

who it is that used AI to help him make this and take it all with a grain of salt. Thank you very much. Have a good evening. You Next up is Jeff Pac followed by Jennifer San Nicholas. Good evening. District Council Bill Dietrich sent me a response to the Brown Act cure incorrect request a week before this was originally agendaized. And yet

now this is the third time this has been included into the agenda. I'm really sorry to all the par the teachers and and parents that are here that I have the utmost respect for and I'm I'm going to try not to take up too much time. Why I'm here as I was at the last meeting is because I wonder why

Trusty Anderson felt it necessary to unredact my name from a document when that matter from the district standpoint was already settled. This is little else little else than petty revenge. Trustees who you never had issue with are suddenly a problem. And the trustees whom you called who called you pathological and bered you for incompetence are now your best friends. And

you wonder why I see you as capable of breaking the law to protect yourself. Now, as you have told me in text messages and emails, which I'd be happy to provide, you wish you could resign. So, it confuses me as to why you are still here. This is little more than a revenge campaign against people on this board and community who have held

you accountable for a litany of lies, mistruths, and reversals. My letter asked legitimate questions about whether a majority of this board coordinated a leadership vote outside public view. Instead of instead of addressing those questions, the district council's response was procedural deflection. The Brown Act is not just about technical compliance. It's about public trust. Regardless of whether a highly partisan county

district attorney has any interest in upholding the law or not. The response also claims there is no evidence of a serial meeting or vote trading. But what investigated was what investigation was conducted to reach that conclusion? He provided no such information. Were communications reviewed? Nothing indicated he had. Were phone records examined? He did not indicate what h that

happened. Were trustees asked directly whether a discussions occurred. None of that was addressed. Or was this simply a legal con conclusion and politically motivated statement issued without factual inquiry. The public deserves more than just trust us, bro. Mr. District, Mr. Dietrich, public trust does not utilize technical loopholes and neither should you. Sadly, based on very public information, a great

many things happen behind closed doors when it comes to Melinda Anderson. And this district suffers for it every single day. This is why. Last speaker, Jennifer Sanchez. Some of us went to college and learned how to punctuate. We don't need AI for it. Um, I don't always see eye to eye with Mr. PAC. We've gotten into some debates before,

but in this instance, I believe he is correct that the entire action related to the election of board officers was suspicious, if not malicious, and with vengeance in mind. An investigation into this matter will do no more than shine a light if there was any ill intent, collusion, vote trading, etc. If there wasn't, okay. If there was,

it'll bring it to light. This is the kind of shady backroom dealing that the Brown Act was designed to protect us from. Thank you. Okay. Next up, we have various bed topics. M Oh, yes. Okay. We have two minutes per board member. Uh but we're going to go in boarding order unless unless they don't want to. No, Mr. Bar. All right.

Mr. Schwarz, you have the floor. Um yes. I uh when I received the letter that the attorney sent to the board, I had a question for him. and uh he was not at the meeting. He did not see the behavior of anybody here. I'm not accusing anyone of anything, but I believe that his conclusion was based not on

the evidence and I think he needs to investigate further as was just indicated. Thank you. Okay, we're going to go on to various bed topics. Dr. from McTazny is going to present for about 2 minutes, but we have six comments. So Dave, can I ask a question before you start? Thank you. So, I'm a little confused because

when I presented this item, I asked for there to be a presentation, and there is going to be a presentation, but someone during the agenda meeting relegated this to written reports. So, I'm wondering since I submitted this item, how I am going to be able to introduce it because that has been the practice in the past. So, I'm I'm

looking for some clarification on that, please. So, the clarification I'll give you that three items were putting into written reports and we're going to proceed with Dr. McTazznney presenting and then you can follow up with two minutes. So two minutes two minutes to present because two minutes for question asking and let me remind you Mr. Barham that every one of the board members

meets with Dr. Vez on a weekly basis or excuse me billey basis but especially during the prep for the agenda meeting where you can ask all your questions then instead of asking them here which seems performative sometimes. No, I I'm asking the question because past practice when and even you have said in the past when we agendaize something and you

said this on September 30th actually you're right and I did and your item is in information reports. That's correct. But in the past, okay, we have been able to present our items that we are submitting on the agenda and you have relegated that in a different way now. So I'm trying to get some clarity. Is this how it's going to be

in the future? I gave your clarity and we're going to welcome Dr. McTazznney up to present. But first six public comments. That's right. First up is Edgar Diaz followed by Cindy Lopez. Good evening. I appreciate this being added onto the agenda for board meeting because this is the type of look that we need to be focusing for

the board. This here provides so much of the work that your educators, your classified and board members and staff have been involved in to that are available for for our students. It has a comprehens comprehensive look at the programs that are available, how things have changed with supports to make sure that students are in a safe and supported classroom. It's been a three and a

half year three and a half year effort probably longer if we take in before co on just making sure that students have the right support in the classrooms they are in and to learn what these programs are and the impacts are making to students is what our board meeting should be about about what the value that these programs

that are invested so much into our students how are they making those this impact a lot of it came about through a partnership with assistant superintendent assistant superintendent deis and even our previous superintendent Gary Woods. All of it came a lot of some of the conversations came out of the initial we elevate committee uh on making sure that we can bring these issues to

the surface about what can be better. Then a board sub subcommittee uh that was in place for I think almost a year uh through Mr. bar and then finally a bargain TVA TVD special education committee where we can look at safety and how we can make an impact with our students as well. Many of these things will help to support our

new educators in a way that we can invest in them to be able to do the reporting when it comes to special education uh IEP reports and it'll invest in making sure that we are avoiding the churn of our educators leaving once they are they you know they know everything that we need to do here or the expectations that are set here in

um TBUSD. We as a union have made sure that people are uh reporting incidents of that are not safe through the workplace violence prevention set through OSHA and making sure that there is data available that we can actually look at to see what kind of supports are valuable, what is still needed and what we can still do. The ability that our district,

it's always been since I've been here no, it's how do we monitor and adjust? How do we monitor and adjust the safety of our students and our educators? And we agree out of all of this that there's some there's a high level of parenting that needs to be involved in establishing the parenting parameters for appropriate behaviors in

a classroom so that students the whole classroom is able to learn and we're not working or just barely surviving on how we're going to keep a student or two safe but then the rest of the classroom is unable to learn. Thank you. Next up is Cindy Lopez, followed by Suzanne Curts. Hi, good evening. Cindy Lopez here. Uh, good

evening to our cabinet and our trustees. And this is actually in response to the uh, OSHA OSHA QR um, reporting. As I said, my name is Cindy Lopez and I'm the vice president of TVA. And um I just wanted to highlight tonight our March for Safety campaign to elevate the concerns we continue to have um in terms of safety and staff and to

our staff and students. So across our district, educators are reporting injuries, unsafe classroom situation and conditions where supports needed to keep classrooms safe are not consistently in place. These are not isolated incidents. They are patterns being experienced across multiple sites. And when I last counted yesterday, there were 17 sites that were mentioned in our last QR reporting. Earlier today, images of staff injuries

were displayed by our members. These images show the harm educators continue to experience in our schools. Bruises, bites, scratches, hair being pulled out. They are difficult to look at, but they do represent the reality many staff are facing in our classrooms. The truth is, the injuries you can see are only part of the story. Often the most debilitating injuries are the

ones you cannot see. The concussions, the hearing loss, anxiety, and yes, even PTSD after repeated incidents in the workplace. These injuries don't show up in a photograph, but they follow educators home and can and can affect their ability to continue to doing doing the work that they love. Educators are specifically asking for the supports that allow them to do their job safely. adequate

staffing, timely behavioral support, clear systems for responding to escalating situations, and the resources needed before someone gets hurt. Tonight's Tonight's safety demonstration is also about bringing visibility to these realities. Safe schools are built when educators are supported with the people, systems, and resources necessary to keep classrooms safe and stable. When educators are safe and supported, our students are safer

and better supported, too. Thank you so much. Next up is Suzanne Curts, followed by Jennifer San Nicholas. Suzanne Curts, followed by Jennifer San Nicholas. Hi, school board. I'm a resident and special education teacher of Tmacula. First, I want to acknowledge our um sped directors for getting our SPE subcommittees scheduled. I look forward to a c cultivating and collaborative

partnership where we can address district challenges with transparency and a unified vision. I'm here today though to address the concerns of students and staff safety. To ensure effective oversight over student and staff safety, we must establish a standardized reporting frame framework to identify emerging trends and patterns. It is essential that we move beyond data collection to a process of regular

data review followed by clear actionable outcomes. To address our safety concerns, we must commit to support our staff and create the collaborative problem solving necessary to implement sustainable solutions. While the current professional development trainings offerings are appreciated, there's a gap between training and classroom implementation. To be effective, our staff requires more than instruction. They need the dedicated personnel and tangible

resources to execute these strategies. We must listen to the educators who are identifying exactly what is required to meet the specific needs of these students. Thank you for your time. Jennifer San Nicholas followed by Jeff PAC. I am pleased to see a road map designed for analysis and feedback when it comes to special education. It's a great start. I beg of all of

you on this day is to take the data that you get and act quickly, not just for the kids, but for the staff. It's come to my attention that certain board members um have questioned the level of violence that can occur into the special ed classroom. As a parent, as a classroom volunteer, as a field trip chaperone, I can tell you it is real. I would ask

the board to go outside and look at the pictures on the signs. They're right outside this window. It is um uh it I'm sorry I lost my place. Oh uh there are pictures of the injuries, the bite marks, the contusions, the bruises. Um it it's horrific and it's real. There are teachers here today who could probably walk

up and show you the marks on their body. Um it is why my son has chosen to be homeschooled for high school. Um, not that he's perfect, but when the kids hit him, he does hit back. And to protect himself, he decided to be homeschooled. He knows his own weaknesses. It's also why you were losing staff. I found out about a month ago that the best

aid this district has ever had, in my opinion, decided to take early retirement because of an incident with a student that left staff injured and his integrity was questioned. That aid was the best of the best and made the biggest difference with not only my son but with kids that were very severe that I saw huge improvements in that

I'd known for years. Um the the students and the district will suffer for it. On a positive note, I want to commend the RSP program at the secondary level. My sophomore is thriving academically, athletically, and socially. And that is due to the confidence you gained from the case carriers at the middle and the high school level. Thank you.

Next up is Jeff Pack followed by Jennifer Cantalon. Good evening. Again, we have an agenda riddled with board policy nonsense meant to attack each other and point fingers. And finally, we saw something on the agenda that everybody I think everybody can agree. We've been seeing hearing weeks and weeks of teachers and parents come forward and say there are

issues with the sped program and we need to take action. And the one time it comes up, it gets kicked down to a written report. Now, we've heard this not once, not twice, week after week, they have described a special education system at TVUSD that's under real strain. They have talked about classrooms that are overwhelmed, staff that are stretched thin, and students and staff

who are not receiving the level of support they deserve. These aren't abstract policy discussions. These are real families and real educators asking for help. And the troubling part is the problem is not unclear. It has been explained in detail repeatedly by the people closest to it. Teachers who work with these students every day. Many describing being injured in their workplace. And

while there are vi there is violence and injuries happening, that puts students at risk too. They have asked this board for action, for leadership, and for a clear plan to address what is happening. Instead, what they received tonight, a decision to send the issue back for a written report, a report. The urgency has been made clear again and

again. Reports do not support students. Reports do not reduce case loads. Reports do not put additional support in classrooms where teachers are asking for help. Reports do not give families confidence their children are being served in the way the way the law and basic fairness requires. Leadership means recognizing when an issue has already been studied enough and when it is time

to act. Leadership means responding when your community raises the alarm, not creating another layer of paperwork while the problem continues. And while one school board member has tried to answer that call, board leadership refuses them, instead putting their focus on attacking trustees and the community. If you spent 10% of the effort you put into writing overreaching and illegal

board policy and spending taxpayer money to pay partisan lawyers to write your policies and spent that 10% on things that really make a difference to students, staff, and teachers, you'd actually be doing something. But you don't. You don't want to. You've never wanted to. And students, staff, and parents continue to suffer. Shame on you. Okay, last speaker.

Last speaker, Jennifer Catalano. Hello. Uh, my name is Jennifer Calano. I'm one of the elementary directors for TVA. Um, I am happy to see this on the agenda, but I do feel like it's been a long time coming. So, um, I have to say I've been up here a couple times already this year talking about student safety,

also talking about the GenEd classroom, and we do have all of these sped issues in the GenEd classroom. So, um I it's just a problem that is happening across our schools. Um since the end of October, um I looked at that workplace violence report and we have um 67 additional reported cases of workplace violence at the elementary level. Um

the problem is not going away. Incidents like this are happening regularly in classrooms, in sped classrooms. Um and we need meaningful solutions. So, I'm I'm optimistic that we will get those hopefully. Uh but right now teachers and students are not safe. The other students in the classrooms don't feel safe either. Uh many special education classrooms, like we've said over and over again,

are underst staffed and uh teachers and staff are getting injured. Uh general education teachers are um increasingly being asked to manage students whose needs may be better served in a different classroom setting with the proper support that they can't always give them. um how many more teachers and students need to be injured before the board takes action and provides the support

our schools desperately need. Month after month, teachers stand up here at the podium and we tell you what's going on in the schools. Uh teachers and staff are exhausted. They're discouraged and yet they continue to show up every single day because they care deeply about their students. They deserve to feel safe in their workplace and our students deserve to feel safe in their

classroom. We need action and we need it now. Is that the last speaker? Okay. Yeah. Dr. BL. Okay. I know Dr. McTazznney, this is a really complex report and there's been a lot of work done behind the scenes as well. So, I know that you've been asked to speak on it for about two to three minutes. Fantastic. Thank you.

and I'm happy to answer any questions that you have as well. I first want to thank our speakers for uh some of the things that they brought up in the collaboration that's happening. You know, our goal, whether you're a parent, whether you're a district staff member, uh if you're a board member, if you're a student, um any of our staff, really our goal is the same

is to make sure that we have safe and supportive and successful uh places environments for all of our staff and for all of our students. And I just want to make sure that we uh recognize that we don't want to blame kids for the these kind of behaviors. Uh and this isn't only to special education students, right? Student behavior is

just not about what's happening in our classrooms. Isn't just because of special students that are identified as uh having special needs. It's also challenging behaviors that we're seeing through um some of our different environments. But those behaviors are telling us something, right? When students are struggling behaviorally, it's a sign that they need additional support. That additional support might be in academic,

behavioral, or even in that environmental supports that they might need as well. And the challenge for us then is not to look at what the students should be doing differently, but how we respond as adults. And I just really want to first say again thank you uh to uh CSE sorry CSEA leadership along with TVA leadership our parents

and our board members for the collaborative work that's come together in the last three years. I think we heard Mr. Diaz say three and a half years uh we've come back together those groups came came back together to look at how we can address some of these issues. I'll give just one example of that. So in uh 2024 2025 there was a committee

that came together that was made up out of CSEA uh members, TVA leadership uh board members and our district staff as well. And in those that that committee came up with lots of different things that they could look at to implement to support our students that were having some behavioral uh struggles. And from there then they had

generated a poster board and on that poster board we're proud to say that everything that was put onto that poster board has been enacted and those are some of the things that you're seeing on that report tonight. So just a couple of those things that came out of there. Um under resources we have ongoing support collaboration and problem solving

and purchasing and providing protective equipment and materials and resources for our staff members. Another thing is uh we heard tonight that we haven't added people to support um to support the the issues that are happening, but we have uh we actually added lead AAS to provide training and to go and do the site assistance. And so we have people from our district office

um people that are trained within uh student behaviors and they're going into our classrooms to observe and to give some feedback to teachers and to do some of that training so that we can uh support student behavior. Uh, another thing that has happened is we've expanded our professional development. That's that first point on that training piece of it. So that we

can support student behaviors and best practices. Those are happening uh either uh for being paid uh oops being paid outside of school hours or uh providing subrelease time too. So uh those are a couple things that came out of that. We are looking forward to continuing the conversations. Um we've heard tonight even from our speakers that those conversations are continuing. Uh and again

the things that are going to come out of that we know are going to continue to support our staff, support our students. Um I hate using other uh cabinet members in speeches here, but Nicole Deis, the famous Nicole Deas has said even one student or staff member getting hurt is one too many. And so again, I really appreciate we really appreciate

the collaboration that's happening with our staff um with our board so that we can uh put some things into into place to support our kids, support our staff as well. Thank you, Dr. from McTazzny. Um, any comments from Dr. Anderson? We'll go down the line. Two minutes. 30 seconds. Okay, Dr. Anderson, you have the floor. I just want to clarify that I

strongly support our education, special education teachers and staff and deeply appreciate the work that they do for our students every day. This commitment is actually personal for me. My sister is currently a special education teacher and my mother previously served as a special education aid. So I understand firsthand the dedication and challenges that this work requires. When it comes

to staff safety, our focus should be on protecting and supporting the people serving our students. This is not a partisan issue and it should not be divided by political differences. our priority should be simply be ensuring that the staff feels safe and supported in their work. So, I just wanted our educators to know that their safety matters to me and they will continue to have my

full support. Thank you, Dr. Anderson. Morris, I want to thank the people who were here tonight to speak out. I remember going to a coffee house with Cindy a couple years ago and asking her about this specific issue and what we can do and she gave me some notes and ideas for a long-term plan. So I think Mr. Pac was right. This is something

we all agree to. What he didn't get is the fact that there's a lot that goes on behind the scenes. So whether it's committee meetings, whether we talk about things enclosed, whether we receive those postcards from people in TVEA and want to do something about it, just know that we are this is only one facet of the way the board operates. We

do support you. It is disturbing to hear injuries um ongoing discussion consistently. So just know that it resonates with us. You matter. Thank you for giving to our children. Some of my favorite moments have been going through rooms to see all of the alternative treatments and education that go on. It means a lot to us and we'll continue

talking about it both here on the day and behind the scenes. Thank you, Miss Werva. Mr. Barl, question Dr. Kamaski, are we getting two minutes twice around here? Two minutes. Okay. Well, that's in violation of board bylaw 9323.7. You need two/3 to change the rules of debate. Len, this we're not debating this item. This is information. Thank you

for starting the clock. Okay, your time's going. It's really It's really too bad that this item is relegated the way that it is because it deserves so much more. And I know that you see that our board president does not prioritize this item. But I will try to I will try to make my points. I know that Dr. I've spoken to her about these things

as I've become more informed um in the special ed area. Um and I am looking for outcomes. She knows that. Um we're not we can't get into the weeds. We can listen to you which which I feel I have done and I am still learning. Um but I have spoken with Dr. And I know that she is collaboratively

committed to outcomes which are more favorable than have been in the past. But I am asking her to look at these items. Safety, rising case loads, challenges in recruiting and retaining experienced teachers with moderate severe credentials as well as speech pathologists and school psychologists, competitive salary schedules, contract language that governs special ed. There are unique challenges to the demands of these

programs. They differ significantly from those in gened. Major maladaptive behaviors have escalated to physical and emotional violence by severely impacted sped students who need and deserve more support. Teachers are being physically hurt and some sped students are being subjected to high stress environments as a result. we need to deal with these issues issues and I'm sure I know that she is committed to this

working collaboratively with the new special task force um and like I said two minutes for an item like this Dr. Kamaskki and the rest of you is an absolute disgrace. Thank you Mr. Four. Please down so we can respect Mr. sports. Thank you. Well, uh I was at the superintendent council, was it two weeks ago? And I

made commitments to four or five teachers to spend a day, not a minute, not a coffee shop, a day in their classroom to see what's going on. As someone who was in the classroom for 40 years, I know what you go through every day. And I promise each and every one of you, regular ed and special ed, because it's in regular

ed, too. It's not just students who have an IEP, who could be violent, who hit their teachers, who spit at their teachers, who kick their teachers, who throw things at their teachers. This is not something that is going away. And my commitment to everyone in this audience, to every parent and every child, is to find out what the latest

practices we can do, how much we can commit to you to make sure that our children are safe, that our educators are safe, and that we provide the best that we can for everyone in the district. Uh, Drew, are you out there? Drew Bird, again, I ex accept your invitation to visit your class. I'll make sure I do it. Mike Brewer, I made

a commitment to visit you and I will do it. Uh there was a a lady, I forget her name, but she said she would send me an invite to visit her class and I will make sure I do it. We will be Yes, you're back there. We will make sure that every incident is reported. Please do not hide them. If something happens,

please report it. Don't think, well, it's going to make my school look bad if I report an incident. I've heard too much of that nonsense. We want to know what's going on so we can make sure that you're safe, our kids are safe, and we remain the best district in Riverside County. Thank you. just to you know unfortunately it goes this way

after coming off the heels of such a wonderful um state of the district message but unfortunately I have to counter misinformation from Mr. Barham you in fact on your recommended motion motion for staff to present which staff did so I'm not sure why the contradicting um two things safety committee which of which I'm on I I joined

that committee specifically because the teacher recommended uh or sorry recommended that we get more involved um one uh teacher came up here wearing gear I forget if it was uh December January but he was wearing gear saying he got hit uh tables thrown on and on. Mike Brewer made a strong voicing to that. In fact, Mike Brewer

is the one that convinced me. He didn't ask me, but I joined the safety committee because of that. I'm also on the sped subcommittee, which is on temporarily on hold. It's on pause. I am very much willing to work in both committees to uh appropriate solutions or come up, you know, for recommendations of the board. Right now,

we're not taking action on this and I'm thankful that Dr. Matazny presented us with rich information and a presentation to the public. We all have this in writing. And last, I was at the superintendent's council as well. And I remember talking and I said, I would love to visit the classroom without even admin if possible, so I could sit in there and be a fly on the wall. And

then I remember talking with Mike Brewer after that and he said, it's really difficult for you to see the behaviors because you're not a part of the class. So it was almost like Heisenberg's principle of uncertainty. When you try to view the electron, the act of viewing it possibly alters the very thing you're watching. when you try to

engage. So, it's really hard for me and any other board member to jump in the class and witness some of the abuse, which I am totally against. I am all for the educators and the teachers and the sped teachers and the assistants to be absolutely protected and safe. That is the disinformation I'm going to stop being spread by certain board

members because it's despicable. Thank you. And Dr. Vez, I'm going to hand that over. So I just want to share that student safety is not something we ever consider complete. Um the students that when we look back historically over time all the practices and things that we do consistently change with the groups and students that we get while we have systems

and protocols currently in place our respons our responsibility is to continuously look at those to evaluate those to strengthen them and improve them. And that's I think what we're doing very collaboratively right now with TVEA and CSEA. I take these matters really seriously. This is my background. I have a great passion for this and we will remain focused on ensuring that our

classrooms and our campuses are safe environments where students can learn. So our work is not done. We will continue to work um in our special ed subcommittee. We'll continue to work with both um uh TVA and CSSEA to continue to move forward to just refine and get better. Thank you, Dr. VeZ. Moving on to information. Um, item number two, exhibit 6141C.

No public comments. Just to read the rationale. The new 614C exhibits being presented. It already was presented at a previous meeting. Just to give you context, Joe Bywag and Amy Ricken invited me on September 16th for one hour and and even more to go over this outdated um rubric on how teachers adopt textbooks. It was outdated. We

went through a lot. It was actually wonderful and I was honored to be invited by both of them. We worked on it. Then at a a meeting after that um it was presented to the secondary curriculum who was considered the godmother of the spreadsheet this she was tasked to put this in a spreadsheet format which was amazing and then that got

um voted in uh recently and that's context um I loved engaging with this from a professor mindset and an educator mindset and not only like how do teachers pull in curriculum and how would they use a rubric but how Would I do it if I was a teacher? Does it um does it integrate with Canvas and X Y and Z? And we were talking about publisher

stuff, legal stuff. So anyways, really proud to do this. And that's all I have to say on that. Dr. Anderson, any comments? Okay, Mr. Mr. Bar. I will say that the this form was born out of issues with curriculum dating back to when I first was elected in January 25. Joe Bowag, Dr. Woods, Dr. Um there were books that we felt were not um

that were not reflective of what the values of the community expected. So we were trying to come up with how do we balance these competing values in our community um in a legitimate way. And we had many many many conversations about how to do it and eventually um came down to we need a more rigorous process and we need to develop a different form. So that

is where exhibit 6141C um that's where it came out of. Um and uh I think our our processes of curriculum will be um better served. um our board will have more effective oversight as a result of u the secondary curriculum committee um looking through textbooks and using this form because it is very comprehensive. So that's it. Mr. Schwarz. Yeah. Once again,

um I get a lot of emails from people about curriculum and uh we're part of the test group and I like it or I don't like it. And I I think it's really our job to make sure that we provide the best materials for our students and that comes from the input of the staff who are working with

our students. We respect your opinion. When you say you think a book is good or bad and we read it and we go along with what you say, you guys are the experts and along with Dr. VeZ, Mr. Bweek, uh, other people who are experts here in the district, we'd like to follow their recommendations, but if you don't think it's

good, then I'm not going to be in favor of it. Thank you, Mr. Schwarz. It was already It's already a live document. Uh, Mr. Barum, I have a question for you. You don't have to answer it if you don't want, but if this was really important to you, you can put me on a timer if you want. Yeah. You said the word we

um you were invited September 16th and then the uh meeting after that, the secondary curriculum. How come you didn't show to both of them? No, I'm going to answer because I wasn't feeling well. Okay. There was a period of a few weeks where I wasn't feeling well and Dr. Vez knows this. Um but the important part of it is yes, you know, being

involved in in in creating the form as you were, but the impetus in creating the form came out of the conversations that happened months beforehand. And there's nothing wrong with that. And that's all I want to acknowledge. So that's why I wasn't there. But I want the community to know that to know that this form came out

of those conversations that we're having that we were having months beforehand because we were having issues with our curriculum as you well know. Okay? Remember the math curriculum with all the devil problems, all of those types of things that caused chaos in the community because you put it out on social media. Okay? We wanted we wanted to to for we wanted to uh prevent those

types of things from happening and that's why those conversations happened so that this form was born. So that's why thank you. Thank you. So you didn't show up in September 16th. You also didn't show up to the secondary curriculum. So you weren't feeling good for a few months. You don't have to answer that. Yeah. No, I was not feeling

well, Dr. Kamaroski. I was not feeling well. Do you see how the pressure comes your way? You know what? That's fine. I'm just Point of order. Point of order. Can we get back on? I'm answering the question. Dr. Kamari, can I call a point of order? Can we get back on Dr. Anderson? Thank you. That's how the accountability works. And this

is my time. Thank you. Now we're on toformational reports. Three, the cursive comeback. Ensuring TVSD students gain the proven advantages of fluent connect handwriting for reading, writing, and thinking. We have three comments. First up is Carolyn Thomas, followed by Upn. So, I'm not sure who came up with the title for this report, but um the cursive comeback. As I'm sitting

back there grading three paragraph essays completely in cursive by third graders, I never knew it went away. Um, as a third grade teacher, I have taught cursive in my classroom for many years. It is a third grade common core state standard in California and has been for several decades. While it has been taught for many years, it is really not sustained past third grade.

It's kind of like learning a foreign language. it becomes a lost art if only taught once and not used regularly. Um, once the kids get to junior high in high school, they don't practice it anymore. And once they don't practice anymore, it's like you don't remember anything but a few words of a foreign language. I am generally

supportive of the resolution to formalize cursive standards in Tmacula Valley and be in compliance with the law that took place in January of 2024. We know there are cognitive benefits. It is important for students in terms of improved memory retention, fine motor dexterity. It's generally a positive thing. However, now it's the law says to expand it from first through sixth grade. And there is

um room for leas to decide which grade levels are appropriate. So I must urge the board to look past just the how. First we must talk about time. While 10 to 15 minutes of daily instruction as written in the board agenda item, it sounds modest. Yeah, you can just put 10 or 15 minutes a day to this.

We have to be honest. We're not adding 15 minutes to the school day. Our teacher schedules are already packed to the minute. This many minutes of PE, this many minutes of math, this many minutes, and something else, if we add cursive, something else has to be removed or moved. So, I asked the board to be transparent with staff

and parents about which curricular items you are asking us to remove to make room for an increased mandate across more grade levels. Will it be grammar or spelling or vocabulary or writing instruction? We cannot simply tell teachers again to make it fit as we have experienced with other directives or new curriculum requirements. Second, success on this mandate requires a consistent

developmentally appropriate curriculum. We cannot leave it to individual teachers to find their own cursive worksheets. We need district-wide evidence-based program. And we must address the analog costs. You can't do this on a screen. You can't do this on whiteboards. You have to give us copy money. You have to give us paper, pencils, all of the things that we need. This

requires an increase in our copy budgets, our physical supplies. I saw you wrote the financial impact is unknown but instead I want a proactive investment in the physical tools our students need to write. So while I'm generally in support of Kurszic education and do teach it, please support our teachers with the time, curriculum, and the budget to do it successfully.

Oopsy, followed by Carolyn Hoff Hoffman. So a lot of my comments are going to be a repeat of what Caroline just said. I'm going to try to minimize the repetition. And I want to start by saying I actually love cursive writing. My own handwriting is terrible because again after all these years I'm out of practice. We usually the

only place I use it to is probably to fill out the form. And I'm sorry Len, you have to read that. And it is wonderful that California does not follow federal standards and it uh mandates cursive writing. And my daughter was in third grade when she did learn cursive and she practiced at home. I did insist on the practice.

So she can write and read cursive easily. But but Caroline is right that they do not continue after third grade. This is even before the mandate. She went to third grade like a long time ago. And so my question actually over here is like why does this topic which is a statemandated standard require discussion or agendaization? And

uh uh this was the law was passed 2 years ago. Why is it being presented as like a comeback or a new initiative? And I would like to point out the u it is like in really poor taste when you're demanding uh higher standards without actually defining them. When teachers are working without a contract right now you keep on asking

for more and more. The comeback that our district actually needs right now is not cursive. It needs the board to return its focus from symbolic gestures and personal agendas to the real work of running the school district. Since we're going to the old school arts, I actually am this is a favorite f word of mine which is from the 18th century and it is

called fudgel and which means to pretend to work or look busy while actually not doing anything. This is exactly what you're doing. Thank you. Last speaker is Caroline. Um, I too was confused because the comeback implies that it needs to be brought back, which is funny because you champion always being in the classroom and trying to go

to these schools, but again, we've had this standard. Um, when we talk about this issue, it's important to look at the full picture. Much of the conversation focus on potential benefits. But the and there are some, but focus only on the pros doesn't give a complete understanding of whether expanding cursive instruction is the best use of our limited instructional time. Every

minute in the classroom requires a trade-off. When we add, we have to take away. Um, in reality, it's the practical need for for cursive has also significantly declined. Most writing communication today happens digitally through typing, online documents, or printed handwriting. Even signatures are increasingly electronic. Our students are far more likely to use keyboard, touchcreens, and digital platforms than they are

to write cursive on a regular basis. I remember Kiki's typing lessons where you got to make the penguin jump across. And to this day, I can still type and everyone in my family is flabbergasted that I don't hunt and peck. At the same time, students are facing growing expectations in areas like reading comprehension, written expression, digital literacy, and critical thinking. These

are skills they will rely on every day in higher education, in the workforce, and in civic life. That doesn't mean cursive has no place at all, but expanding instructional time for it should require a clear and demonstrated need. Right now, that increased need increased need simply hasn't been shown. We are going to, if we're going to address

our curriculum, we should make decisions based on the skills students will actually use most and ensuring that the time we have in the classroom is focused where it will make the greatest impact. And again, the other Caroline, nice name, um, pointed out like, I've I've been a parent, a room parent, and you have to punch in the code, and

they only get a certain number of copies. And like she said, all of this needs to be tactile. It all needs to be happening on paper. But if the budget isn't there to give them more copies, guess what? They buy it themselves. They go to Kinko. They spend their own money. And that's unfortunate. My mom was a teacher for 30 plus years till she

passed. And I I did so much of that extra help because that's where her heart was. Thank you. All right. Uh Miss Worman. Okay. So why did I bring this to the agenda? It is I'll take two. All right, I'll start over here. I brought this to the agenda because I've had a lot of parents reach out and ask questions and I have

visited a lot of campuses. I've talked to teachers and it's not consistent across the district. I want to say kudos to those that do teach cursive. I was actually with Dr. and was asking questions uh when we were out at three different schools and she mentioned which teacher did and I talked to that teacher extensively about it. So the

goal here is to see if we can be consistent. When students look at historical documents, they should know and understand how to read cursive. I truly believe that they should be able to sign their name in cursive. If it takes extra pencils and papers in the classroom, I am all for it. My end goal here was not

to issue a mandate, but it was to say, how can we review current integration strategies for handwriting versus time on screens? And if you like me scroll through Instagram and look at educational posts and what other countries are doing, you will note places like Sweden who went all tech are actually pulling back. they're actually going back to to a pencil and a paper

and writing because it does something different whether it's cognitive brain development, fine motor skill and executive function growth, real world literacy, alignment with national and state trends, um efficient integration into existing curriculum. These are all things that I think we can pursue together. So my goal was to say what else can we do? And yes, legislation actually dictates it, but it is K through six,

which was actually mentioned here tonight. So, I'm just interested in analyzing what we do. I'm hearing from parents. And let's make sure those of you who are in third grade teaching it, thank you. But if there are others who need to, let's do that. And then, how about we keep the skill going? I think it's important. Thank you, Miss Dr. Anderson. Mr. Varum,

I'm sorry. Um, I've seen the Sweden report. It's all over Instagram right now. Um, my question is is are we seeing the same things when you go out to classrooms and when I go out to classrooms? Because I'm seeing cursive taught. I see it. I look at the walls because the walls in a classroom are very they tell a big story. There's tons of

curs Thank you, Edgar. There's tons of cursive on those walls. And in addition to that, I mean, I'll I'll give you it's not cursive, but I'll give you an example of printing. I I can't remember what I think I was at Luceno. The teacher was teaching uh about whales science, right? spelling, phonics, printing. It's an integrated skill. Granted,

it's not cursive, but that's how our upper elementary teachers are teaching cursive. They are integrating cursive into all into other subject areas. And to me, I'm not going to reach down into the classroom and tell elementary teachers because I was one and I know how hard it is. That's the hardest. 1 through six is the toughest. Okay? I'm

not about to go down into the classroom and start telling elementary teachers that you got to teach cursive and when to do it and how to integrate it. That's your choice. That's for our superintendent to direct. And again, it's an example of the following. This board does not know its role. They have never figured out their role. Okay,

that that is the issue. So, and it's also why are we competing cursive versus screen time? And let me just say this in the last five seconds. I'm all about teaching cursive. I understand the benefits. Screen time and AI is going to get the job, not cursive. All right, Dr. Anderson, you want to Can I speak? Uh, yes, Mr. Schwarz.

Thank you. Yeah. So, uh, I must confess I don't go on Instagram to learn about education information. Actually, what I do is I do some research. So, I wrote, "What are the state standards for cursive writing?" And guess what? In in uh January 24, Assembly Bill 446 took effect amending ED code about cursive writing. And what does it say?

It says it shall be taught in grades K to six. But here's what it says more importantly. The law sets a requirement that it be included but does not specify minute-by-minute curriculum. Districts and educators, you guys, choose how to sequence the instruction across grades 1 to six. You are the professionals. I respect your judgment. I am not walking into your classroom and telling you

what to do. I was in the room for 40 years. That was then. This is now. I respect your judgment, your education, your professionalism to do the job that needs to be done. I'm not going to walk in and tell you what to do. We have a district superintendent. We have curriculum experts. If there needs to be more instruction, they will

have workshops. They will hold uh seminars. They will say, "Well, gee, we need to do more cursive or we're doing enough." And there's a program in the elementary school. I got to be real quick called Snorkel where kids do research. I saw them doing the research in Tmacula Luseno. And what did they do? They were writing their

results in cursive writing. So it's there. We don't need to modify it. And we don't need to tell you what to do dayto-day in your rooms. You guys are the pros. We stand behind you. I'm glad this was brought forward just to bring awareness. Um, we could talk I'll hand it over to Mrs. Worman to talk about the motion. I think

it's a practical one. For the teachers out there really into cursive, really love it. Again, at the superintendent council's meeting, um, there was debate back and forth with some teachers, and I'm not saying it fully hinges on cursive, but it was really that technology might be just too much in this district. So my first thought is and I

don't like to impede on educators. I'm an educator myself. I like flexibility. But I just thought, you know, more cursive if the teacher is not using cursive and they were um motivated um by this to um in include that more and less screen time. Again, it's a pedagogical style that each that each teacher has is that I don't want to impose on

because I have my own teaching style. But I just thought it's a practical issue to be brought up and I'm glad it's here and I'll hand it over to um Mrs. Worma again. Just for reference, the California Assembly Bill was 446 and it was signed into law in October of 2023 for pupils in grades 1 through six. My motion's pretty simple

here tonight. It's definitely not to mandate or tell teachers exactly how they need to take this on. It's to have the discussion. And I know Dr. and I had chatted about uh VAPA even being a place because cursive there is art, right? It it can kind of fit into that area. So my goal is how can we work together to figure out how more of us

arrive in a place of being able to write and also read cursive. So the motion is simply to review just to review current integration strategies for handwriting versus time on screens and consider next year. Maybe there's some changes we can make and definitely support teachers with that. So that is what I would like to move. Second. Okay. Okay. And since this is a first read,

we're going to be bringing it back next time, but you have my consensus as well, but we can talk about this at the next board meeting. And Dr. Bles, do you have any comments? Yeah, since we will be bringing it back, I think um I would like some clarity um at that time in terms of what review means um and exactly what that looks like

so that we can produce the right information. Um and your last motion is to pursue higher levels of cursive standards for grades 1 through six. So we will be seeking clarity in terms of what you mean by that. Thanks Dr. Vez. Um any other second comments by Mr. Bar, Mr. Schwarz? Yes. You have two minutes if you

want to do a second round. Can I just It's this is this is actually an agenda item to where we had this isn't a written report. Can I make one comment? It's it's Mr. Barham's turn. Wait, I thought I was first and I never got my first comment. Did you I never got one. This is Yeah, this is the second round. So, we passed a first

round. Okay, we'll come right back in. Mr. Bar, I was going to say only in Tmacula is cursive a partisan topic. That's my only comment. No, no, no. Please be respectful. Thank you. You know, I mean, I guess I guess my bigger issue with all of this is it's a competing it's like it's a competing thing between cursive and screen time. And it

shouldn't be that um because they both have their place. But again, it's a teacher in the classroom as directed by the superintendent and our staff should be making those decisions. Not us. Thank you. We should not be making those types of decisions. It's not our play. If I'm I taught elementary, I taught third grade. I would hate

it if a board was me supposed to be teaching in the classroom. It would be awful. So, and again, I also think that this is about reduc. It's more about reducing screen time for them than it is about increasing cursive. That that that's what this is about to me. It's about reducing screen time. And if you want to reduce screen time,

that's a parent thing. But screen time is required in certain areas in our curriculum. And what Mr. Schwarz referenced in terms of writing like in the fourth and fifth grade they have snorkel which is an AI uh tool. It is giving when they are on a screen and they are doing writing. Snorkel gives a student immediate feedback immediate. It gives

the teacher immediate feedback to help students correct their grammar or to correct you know what whatever is going on in their content. And that is powerful. We're not going to be able to do that when kids write in cursive. The teacher is going to have to collect all the papers and then take a week to grade them all. Here with on the screen in

the fourth and fifth grade when they're writing, they are getting immediate feedback through AI mechanisms which is powerful. All right. So I would just I would conclude with Mr. Schwarz. Um, I'm going to go back to what I said as having been in the classroom for all those years. Cursive is not a partisan issue. That that's not what we're

talking about. We're talking about education. We're talking about the people we hired to teach our children, the experts, the ones who have the degrees, the ones who were directed by a superintendent and a cabinet all of educated people who make the policy and pass it on and then the teachers come back and talk about it and make decisions

collaboratively. This is not about anything, but what goes on in the classroom is up to the teacher and the superintendent. And I'm not going to stand here and tell anyone what they need to do or don't need to do. I remember being in third grade and having sheet and sheet of A's and then B's and C's and D's and

the most boring, horrible, horrible, horrible time when I could have been reading a book, which I love to do. I love to read instead of sitting there. I love to write, but I didn't have to write in cursive if I couldn't. And I could if I had a practice, I could do it at home. But then if I did it at home, I had to

give it to Mrs. Jones and she had to go over it and spend time correcting it. So that's boring, boring, wasted time. And again, I come back to can we focus on things that help kids learn to read, write, and do math better, and focus on students and schools. I'm tired of talking about nonsense. Can we talk about what's good for kids?

Thank you. So, I do think cursive is good for kids and with AB446, I think again this was um I'm excited this was brought up, but I just want to point out to the members of the audience or people listening at home, look up what a straw man argument is and then go back and listen to what board member comments were. Um, yeah,

and I will remind people in the audience too, there's there's a major deflection, and I'm not sure if it's an insecurity as an elected official that some people have, but let me be clear, the board members execute two branches of the law. Just think of the judicial and the legislative. We in fact can make policy to push

more cursive. The executive branch is led by Dr. Valz, our only employee. So, as elected officials, we represent the values of our community. And let's just say our community says we want more cursive. Ipso facto, we literally are doing what we should be doing because we were elected to do it. So, if two members of the board want

to sherk their elected official duties, they can, but I will not be a rubber stamp and that's why I was elected. Thank you. Okay, we're on the next item and it's item 4B, the first reading of new board policy 5141.5, mental health. Got it. Okay. So, we're going to do a first round of two and then a second round of two if if anyone

has comments on this mental health policy. and we'll start with voting order. Um, Mrs. Wesma, so I think in the interest of time, this is great for a first read. It's important to take what this new policy has and compare it to past CSBA policy and what we currently have on the books. This is an important topic. Um, but I think at this

point as a first read, we can continue to do our homework. If we have suggestions, things that we would um like to see in this policy, then we can make it as is. Uh I know there's a lot of people here waiting to speak in public comments and so forth. So, at this point, I think uh I'm going to take additional time and review it

and I'd like to listen to any other comments here tonight. Thank you, Miss Dr. Anderson. Um Dr. VeZ, I just requested already through email to speak with um Dr. McTaz me about it in the following month. Is that okay? Yeah. Thank you. Thank you, Dr. Anderson. Mr. Barm, Mr. Schwarz, I have no comments. Uh any other um comments

or questions or concerns? Any board member can follow up with Dr. Dr. Vez and uh staff behind the scenes before the next read as this is only a first read. Okay. So, now we're going to move on to general public comments. Give me a second here. Okay. So, I will read off my public comment sheet, but before we do that,

um I just want to give board consideration that we have uh 26 public comments. So, I'm going to give you four items, a real quick snapshot. One way of doing it is deciding the amount of time we'll allow for comments. So, for example, if we do 30 minutes, then we decide how many per minute and cut it off at 30 minutes. Another way of doing it

is 26 minutes time 3 is 78 minutes over 1 hour. 26 uh comments times 2 is 52 minutes, close to an hour. Um at uh 1.5 minutes, it's 39 minutes. So for me, uh, another way of doing it is take the first 10 comments at three minutes a piece and cut it off at 30 minutes. So I leave

this up to the board. This is not my decision, but that's what we're looking at. Possible parameters of 26 public comments. Can I go first? I think 1.5 minutes is fair because then we're going over a little bit but not into an hour. So that means we're over 30 minutes. We're 39. you said. Yeah. And but then we get to hear

everybody speak. Okay. My other option would be the first 10 and only 30 minutes. Those are my two choices. My option is the first 10 cutting off at 30 minutes. 30 minutes giving the first 10. And of course the students you get priority. You speak first and that was discussed at the last board meeting. So any students present. Uh just a quick show of hands.

How many students? We got two, three, four. Four students. Easy. You're accommodated. Maybe five. three, five, so maybe seven or eight. So yeah, it might be all students. Great. Um if we do, if we do that, but um Mr. Barham, you know, right, right, we're still discussing. Okay, I I'll do it real quick, Steve, for all of us. Um at 3 minutes a piece, 78 minutes,

over an hour. At 2 minutes a piece, 52 minutes. At 1.5 minutes, 39 minutes. Or we can simply say 30 minutes. We cut it off. You know what? We have a meeting once a month. There's a lot of people here that want to speak. I say two minutes. That's fair. Says that's fair. So my opinion is actually

in agreement. I think everyone here should be heard. I think two minutes is a fair amount of time. I don't want to limit it to the top 10. So I would say two minutes for everyone. Three of us. We have consensus by majority board. So, we will have students speak first. Um, we will hear you at two minutes a piece. If you have a

three-minut speech prepared, sorry, but we're trying to hear everybody tonight. Okay, we have four student um speakers. First up is Jack Hannah, followed by Ben Hullbrook. Okay, before they come up, I've got to read my little uh talking point. The governing board welcomes public comments. This time for open session public comments. Public comments are allowed up to a maximum

of three minutes per public comment in order received to a maximum total time of 30 minutes per item. for comments on agenda items or non-aggenda items. For consent agenda item topics, a limit of three minutes total will be allowed from one speaker. Unless the item has been placed on publish agenda in accordance with the Brown Act, there should be no action taken. No discussion

will be made regarding personnel issues in open session. Also, pursuant to education code 75 uh or 7054, the public comment process should not be used to show support or opposition for any ballot measure or candidate for political office, including candidates for the district's board of education. That being said, if any other board member gets up to use the restroom and your time starts,

your time starts. It will not be paused. Um sometimes there's interchange during this time, but we welcome up the first speaker. Sorry about that. Jack Hannah, followed by Ben Hullbrook. Good evening, members of the board. My name is Jake Hannah, and I'm here as one of two co-presidents for GOHS Turning Point USA. Uh whether you're aware or unaware,

our group was very excited to welcome a guest speaker this week. Uh last week, we invited her to offer her perspective on her relationship with Charlie Kirk, as well as her personal testimony about her journey from being a teacher to where she is now. I want to speak about the environment our members experienced surrounding our guest speaker Zoom call outside

of our classroom. Members were who were simply trying to attend our meeting were met with harassment and intimidation. A protest took place right outside of our classroom and several of our members were yelled at and targeted while walking in. Students who only wanted to participate in our club were put in an uncomfortable and hostile situation. No student should feel intimidated for

attending a school club. Regardless of someone's political beliefs, students should be able to walk into a meeting without being harassed by their peers. What was especially concerning is the threats made toward our invest in invited speaker where non- studentents created a false narrative about the background of our speaker and created a situation based off of false information. Yet,

there appears to be little to no repercussions for those who made those threats. When threats and harassment go unanswered, it sends a message that some students voices matter more than others. Our club has always set a standard of treating everyone equally and respectfully. We encourage discussion. We respect that people have different viewpoints and we follow the same

rules as every other club on campus. The meeting we organized was specifically for our club members and the values that we share. It was an invite only event meant for students who voluntarily chose to be there. Students who should students should be able to gather in clubs and hear ideas without fear or intimidation. Whether someone agrees with their viewpoints or not, the right

to meet and have discussion should be protected for every group on campus. So tonight, I'm asking the board to support this moving forward. First, we ask that the threats and harassment directed towards students or invited speakers be taken seriously and that clear consequences are enforced when they occur. Second, we ask for the district's help in allowing us to host this event again at a

district facility with proper security present. This would ensure that all students who want to attend can do it safely and invited speakers feel comfortable coming. Finally, we ask that the district make it clear that all student organizations Sorry. Thank you. Fair enough. Next up is Ben Hul. You can easily email us students if your time got cut off. We'll listen to more.

Good evening everybody. Uh my name is Ben and I am the other one of two co-presidents of Great Oaks Turning Point USA chapter. From the initial formation of the studentled club, we have stood pro- first amendment and we stand pro- first amendment because of the immense benefits that come when Americans from all walks of life engage in healthy political discourse. Because of this,

I would like to personally thank even the students that participated in the walkout last week who remained civil because myself along with each and every officer of our club recognize the value of maintaining civility no matter how contentious a political issue may get. However, this civility does not and should not take away from the reason why this in-person

event was canceled. Threats to the safety of our students and staff. I personally was harassed and threatened both online and in person, including by several students actively participating in the school walkout in addition to our club officers, our club members, our club adviser, and our guest speaker who even received death threats. Regardless of the unfortunate inerson cancellation, I would like to express my gratitude

to the TVUSD board, our student board member, and the administration of Great Oak High School for putting the safety of students at the forefront of their decision-making. The only problem is that the safety of our students had to be at the forefront of their decision-making because of the numerous threats our club had received. I would like to encourage our board members to collaborate

with Great Oak Administration along with law enforcement if necessary to investigate those responsible for creating and spreading the lies, slander, and threats that ultimately led to our speaker's cancellation of her inerson appearance. From the beginning, our studentled club has been centered on healthy political dialogue. But sadly, the events of last week created a situation bigger than politv involving threats to student safety.

I would like to leave with the message that we must work together across political lines as a district, as a school, and as a broader community to ensure that threats of violence and studentled politics never merge again. Thank you. Thank you. Next speaker is, forgive me if I say this wrong. Is it eating? Forgive me if I'm saying that wrong.

Good evening. My name is Ekin Wong. I'm a student at Great Oak. I just moved here last year from China. My families are in China. I'm here alone. My English is not my first language. So recently, trustee Jennifer Versar and Joseph Kurski and Santon publicly praised Jessica Tapia and say that student clubs welcome opposing views and respectful debate. But if opposing views are truly

welcome, then students speaking out should not be dismissed as chaos, intimidation or harassment. Students are able to think for themselves. Disagreement is not harassment and protest is not deation. It is participation. I came to this country believing that public schools are places where students learn democracy, not where their voices are questioned when they disagree. Public educ public education serves students

of many different beliefs and backgrounds. That is why the principle of separation of church and state matters. Public schools must remain a place where no single belief determines who voice is respected. Trustees are elected officially to represent all the students not just the ones who agree with them. Um, democracy in school does not mean only hearing comfortable opinions. It means listening

even when students disagree. And last, I want to say thank you Melissa Chai. Thank you Dr. V. Thank you Miss S. Thank you Mr. B. Thank you for everyone who truly care about the students. Dr. Tom Rosski, can you ask people not to make noise when the public speakers are speaking? Thank you, Dr. Anderson. Yeah, when when

people are speaking, please no clapping, finger snapping, you're interrupting the speakers, and please be respectful because a lot of people are going to be speaking. Thank you. Okay, next up is Jack Callahan, followed by Christine Masa. All right, good evening everybody. I'm back again. Um, really quickly, I hate to dismiss you guys, but for audience members who have never been

here before, students especially, I implore you, please stay for at least as much of the meeting as you can, uh, because that bickering and arguing that you saw in the information reports will continue throughout the rest of this meeting. Um, please be aware that while you do ask this board of things, Jack, respectfully, you got to address your comments to the board.

So, okay, I will. I will. I will. I apologize. But I hear what you're saying. So, um, well, we'll see how this meeting goes. In the past, it's been pretty bad. Started off pretty rough. I don't think there's a reason for us to have spent what, an hour and a half on information and reports, which cannot have any actual true action

taking with them. Um, I understand presenting information, but there's no reason to be arguing for over 20 minutes on a single item. Um, so we'll see how this meeting goes. Uh, again, I hope that I can speak to you individually, um, so that way we can actually get action taken. Uh, Dr. Kowski, I would actually ask you that you do

end up reaching out because a few board meetings ago, you did say that you were going to schedule a meeting. That never ended up happening. Um, but yeah, I'm not going to say much. I'm sorry. I'm exhausted. I haven't gotten the chance to sleep in weeks now. Um, and I just finished a volleyball game, so I'm a bit tired. Didn't

really have much planned, but uh, let's hope that this goes a bit better going forward. I trust that you are all responsible adults. You can remain civil as hard as it seems throughout the past few meetings. Um, yeah, that'll be it. Thank you for your time. Thank you, John. Christine, did you want Okay, you're you're coming up. Okay, Christine, followed by Cindy

because we're getting everybody right. Everybody's okay. Christine, followed by Cindy Hurley. So, it was super exciting for in the spotlights to hear uh the uh student council presidents present the stunt teams at their schools. Um I also wanted to amaz uh recognize the amazing stunt teams and their supporters. Uh this weekend as you heard TVHS varsity took

first place in a very difficult tournament and Chapperel varsity made it to the semi-finals in their tournament and I've been supporting stunt at six years for shop. I think this is the first time we've ever made it out of the first round. So to get to the semi-finals is is great for us and even more impressive tds JV stunt took

first place in their competition as well. Um, and why do I say this and why is it important? Because more than 50% of our district-wide stunt coaching is volunteers who are paid out of whatever our teams can fund raise. Each school only gets funding for one varsity coach. No assistant coaches, no JV coaches. Yet, our school board trustees just gave themselves

a $1,000 a month raise with no public vote. They can't even do it in front of us. I suspect there's some shame involved there maybe. Um, but that's $5,000 a month and that can fund an additional stunt coach for more than a year at the schools. Three months of your stipen can fund stunt coaches and assistant coaches throughout

the district. Now, I know trustees Schwarz and Barham both made personal donations to Chapperel Stunt at our showcase. They truly support girls sports. You all had the opportunity to buy raffle tickets. You could have done it, too. And won prizes. So, those of you who say you support girls sports, I encourage you to put your money where your mouth is. So,

please give the teachers and the staff their contracts and then fund girl sports. Thank you. Next up is Cindy Burley, followed by Ron Larson. All right. So, if you give a mouse a cookie as a children's book, its premise is simple. One action leads to another and then everything spirals. Here's some parallels. If you give this board an agenda, they'll use

it for personal event vendettas and tarnishing reputations. They'll waste time on basic conduct policies. If you encourage allies to flood your social media with accusations and innuendos, you waste everybody's time creating justification to avoid accountability. If you let Joe deflect blame, you have to govern by deference instead of conviction. So, we have two subservient members and one claiming board majority. If that board

majority of three listened to legal counsel, there wouldn't be a costly lawsuit. You wouldn't have to claim that lawsuits are lawfare and not about accountability. If you weren't threatened by Melissa's wisdom and professionalism, you wouldn't have created policies to silence her. If you visited schools to learn rather than justify a narrative, teachers might welcome you. If you hadn't jammed public

comment with outsiders that manufactured problems and conflated mental health support with ideology or distrusted parent judgment, we'd have programs helping our students instead of policies that hurt them. Everybody wants to protect children's innocent. Joe, you don't own that. Let parents parent leave the kids alone. Promote filling PTA vacancies, increasing involvement, not replacing it. Disengaged parents are a consequence. And

when families feel ignored, they stop showing up. Every issue traces to a choice made in this room or some sneaky private meetings. It's a circle. We create a problem. We play the victim and then we repeat. Govern based on data. I'd love to see the data of all the parents complaining about cursive. Fiscal responsibility. Good faith. Treat

stakeholders as partners and not spectators. The mouse finally got what it wanted. Are your goals for yourself or for this community? Because our students and families deserve more than the crumbs that are left behind from your personal agendas. We deserve the whole cookie and not the scraps of a board too busy to fight to appreciate the incredible community that baked the cookie.

Next up is Ron Larson, followed by Jenny Sharp. Ron Larson, followed by Jenny Sharf. Yeah. Good evening board, staff, stu, fellow citizens. Each of us have the opportunity to make decisions based on what is best for Tmacula, our state, and our nation. I'm going to share a quote with you from a Lasu, a Chinese dowist philosopher. Watch your thoughts, they become your words.

Watch your words, they become your actions. Watch your actions, they become your habits. Watch your habits. They become your character. Watch your character. It becomes your destiny. Jenny Sharp followed by Danny Molina. That's ironic. Danny's followed me before right out of the parking lot. All right. Good evening. First, I'm beyond proud of the hundreds of Great Oak students who used their voice when they saw

something happening in their community that they knew was not good for them, their peers, or their district. Also, I was standing in the hallway when the Turning Point meeting was occurring. And unfortunately, a student came up here and misrepresented what happened in that hallway. There were no threats or harassment. In fact, the planned protest outside in the hallway was

cancelled by opposition student leaders trying to be respectful of the meeting that was occurring. In January of 2023, Mrs. Tapia was fired from her job as a Herupa Valley PE teacher for refusing to comply with ed code and district directives regarding student preferred pronouns and facility access. On top of this, she spread personal information about a trans high school student,

encouraging her followers to take pictures of this student at sporting events. On top of that, last school year after a TVUSD schoolboard meeting, she went on her Instagram page and said that one of our student leaders, the president of BSU SHAP uh at Chapperel at the time should be beat for speaking out at a board meeting. Her stated

positions are bigoted, homophobic, harmful, and antithetical to educational environments. A person who bullies children should not be welcome on any school campus or in any district facility. My objections to her have nothing to do with her political affiliations nor with her religious beliefs. They are based solely on her detrimental actions. Last night at the state of the district,

which celebrated so many amazing things about TVUSD, one main point was kids first always. I asked this district to live up to that standard and protect all students all the time by not allowing Jessica Tapia to speak at any TVUSD supported events ever again. Thank you. Next up is Daniel Molina followed by Christopher B. The situation at Great Oak has led me to

consider several points of concerns. Number one, our community has a very politically driven demographic that has been publicly spinning false narratives for several years now. Our district just green lit their playbook to control who is invited to speak to students, spin the lie, pump up the fake outrage, then create fake accounts online to threaten violence. That is exactly what happened here. So,

what is the plan to discourage this from happening again? Maybe the names of guests being invited by clubs should be on a need to- know basis until the day of the event. Number two, what does the safety of our children within the district look like? And should we be concerned? Jessica Tapia would have been on campus during

the school day for about an hour. In one hour, one person on campus can raise safety concerns. Then how is then how secure is our campus in general? If students express their personal beliefs and later become labeled as Nazis by their peers, is the district now liable to inform those parents and ensure the specific safety of that student?

Either our schools have proper safeguards or they don't. The idea where one person suddenly tips the scales of danger on campus highlights a bigger problem nobody is talking about. Number three, if safety was a concern, then there is a legit police report filed by the district resulting in a full-scale police investigation into threatening violence on our campus. I'm

sure the community would like to know the truth. Either our district considered this a serious threat of violence and took the proper steps for law and order, or we did none of that, folded to left-wing politics and are using safety as the scapegoat. Lastly, there have been dozens of points made through the year about the school board being nonpartisan. This situation with

Jessica Tapia being denied an in-person meet and greet with a group of students who asked for it, arranged it, booked it, and were excited for it is just another real-time example of the problem conservativeleaning community members talk about. It seems like one specific side of the political aisle is prioritized at the student level within TVUSD. So, if that is the case,

we will keep voting in people who will balance the scales. It seems like the same people who complain about the conservative board members simultaneously encourage schools to be used as the progressive vehicles to bash the conservative perspective. The wokeism destroying Thank you. Next up is Next up is Christopher Bout followed by Jennifer Catalano. My buddy is back.

Good evening. Excuse me. Good evening, board of trustees and Dr. Kamroski. Uh, I am reading My name is Chris Bout. I'm a local parent. I am reading this public comment tonight on behalf of Jessica Tapia. So, these are her words. Many of you know me because my story went viral in 2023 when I was fired from Harupa Valley Unified

for refusing to comply with policies that required me to lie to parents, allow boys in the girls locker room, and to affirm the lie that children can be born in the wrong body. I refused and that stand became a testimony that reached the nation. Last week, Great Oak High School's TPUSA Club invited me to share my story. But once the

approval became public, slander began circulating online. A screenshot was taken from a video of me at March Air Force Base with my children where we were learning about the defeat of the Nazi regime. In that video, I briefly walked past the Nazi flag that had been signed by the soldiers who defeated that evil. Above it was a plaque that read,

"Evil defeated," which is what I was actually looking at. But those who opposed my beliefs twisted that moment and claimed I was posing with the flag, calling me hateful, transphobic, Nazi. It was false, but it spread quickly. It was all a lie. Let me be clear. This is not okay. This is not freedom. We cannot allow a culture where

fake outrage and misinformation silence Christian conservative voices or prevent students from hearing perspective that they freely chose to hear. No student was forced to attend. The TPUSA club exists to teach students what freedom is. Yet last week, Chris, we're going to pause your time and give you 15 more seconds. the audience if you want. If you want, I can give the entire audience

one warning for objectively disturbing the board. Give you 20 seconds, Mr. Bout. Sorry that you were interrupted. Thank you. Please be respectful. Please be respectful or we'll go into a fivem minute recess. All right, Mrs. Sharf, you are objectively disturbing the board and I'll call you out by name. Everybody, this is a teacher. Please keep decorum. You are. Please

keep decorum. You are a teacher. Please be respectful. We have minors present. Thank you so much. Okay. This is my time. This is my time right now. That's right. Okay. Point of order. 20 seconds. We got it. Point of order. All right. Chris, let it let it let it quiet down so they can be respectful. All right. Yes.

All right. Thank you. I respected that decision and I believe that it was an answer to my prayer for protection. Let me be clear. This is not We're going to interrupt you again. Can you give me optics? What What are you L's keeping track on her phone, so can we start over the time again and then just have quiet? L's keeping track

on her phone. Thank you. Yep. So, you got 52. All right. Wait, I'm at 52 seconds. Yes. All right. My lawyer had some of the posts removed. Uh, but the uproar created safety concerns. Uh, I had two meetings with TVUSD and I was impressed with the efforts from Jen Weisma, Joseph Kamaroski, Dr. Veles, Deas Marble, Pastor Amber Lane. Um, ultimately the security determined

that was safest for me if the students if I spoke via Zoom instead of appearing on campus. I respected that decision. I believe it was an answer to my prayer for protection. Let me be clear. This is not okay. This is not freedom. We cannot allow a culture where fake outrage and misinformation silence Christian conservative voices or prevent students from

hearing perspectives they freely chose to hear. No student was forced to attend. The TPUSA club exists to teach students what freedom is. Yet last week that freedom was taken from them. The Great Oak TPUSD students were mature, respectful. Thank you, Chris. All right. Thank you. Next up is Jennifer Catalano followed by Caroline Hoffman. Good evening again. Um tonight,

right now I'm up here to um talk to you guys about an uh elementary issue um that is affecting many teachers across our district. Um I've also come uh prepared with a possible solution um that can help address the additional workload teachers are facing while supporting students with independent study contracts. Uh before I begin, I'd like to share a few um important facts. across seven

elementary schools in our district, we've had 1,15 independent study contracts um that have already been issued to students. When you consider that there are 11 additional schools in the district, which I do not have data for, uh it is reasonable to estimate that the total number would be two to three times this number that I gave you higher.

Uh the numbers represent a significant increase in responsibility for classroom teachers who must manage these contracts in addition to their regular teaching duties. Teachers are willing to support these students and families, but please remember or please understand that this work is being added uh to an already overflowing plate. Some contracts require teachers to go back several months to document work that was completed

in the past. Even though ed code has changed and teachers can now show online uh platforms for documentation, it is important to note that when students travel outside the United States, they are often unable to access platforms. As a result, teachers must create full packets of work for students to complete while they are away. I reached out to Ryan Diero to discuss possible

solutions that can make this process easier for teachers so they are not spending hours of their unpaid time creating work. One suggestion I shared was to utilize all of our TOSAs, our math specialists, and the staff to create grade level independent study packets that could be consistently used across the district. Having these packets would significantly reduce the

additional workload placed on classroom teachers. We understand you want your ADA, but we also know that the responsibility falls on teachers. Lenine. Next. Next up is Caroline Hoffman, followed by Edgar Diaz. Oh, he's going to take a poop for like four minutes so he doesn't have to be here. Um I Oh, my time will start. It's okay. We all know how

to count. Um first, I'm confused by the decision to remove action item number 15. Last month, this board publicly dragged Emil through the mud, declaring the moral high ground, questioning his integrity, and saying, "You didn't trust him." That was all very public. But now when parents want their statement entered into the record, suddenly it's a private matter. The inconsistency

is difficult to take serious. Second, the pearl clutching over the last two weeks online about a comment Steve made on a hot mic has been a bit much. Should he have said it from the deis? No, but I'm sure he knows that. But the outrage feels selective when a man of you support not once, not twice, but thrice. Thank you, David

Rose. He has said far more inflammatory things without prompting the same level of concern. I also want to address action item 14. I doubt the public will be allowed to walk through every bylaw and board policy being written tonight. But I want to say this. Much of what's here does not require a sweeping overhaul. The pattern during

the board's tenure has been an effort to make the biggest splash possible, often without considering the real impact of students. Joe, you came into office campaigning on the idea that you should have influence over what kids in your neighborhood learn because they play with your son. That's not a normal approach to public education. If you disagree with how another family is raising their

kids, the answer isn't to change the district's curriculum for everyone. And finally, this board often talks as if only parents want what's best for children while expecting teachers to shoulder enormous responsibility for those same kids. That contradiction deserves more reflection than it's been given. Look, I still have some time. Melinda, next up is Edgar Diaz, followed by Jeff Pac.

Good evening again. Um, just have some additional comments here that I couldn't fit in the last one. And just based on some comments that would said that were said here and what's going on here, I just want to make sure that everyone knows that the educators of Tmacula Valley uh serve all students. Uh parents agree and appreciate the dedication to the students

of our community. Unfortunately, positions that are mentioned here around the community tend to put that into question and there's a moment where uh educators and parents have to come to an agreement of what that we're there to serve them and we're there for their um their best educational goals. Uh just as far as what we've been doing out in the community

in the we went to the state of the district the other day. Great highlight of the efforts of our educators that are being done throughout the district. I was able to attend Summit Academy and watch uh Hurley and her team provide and her students provide inclusive classrooms for students with the designs of Melissa and many of you being

judges there to see the creativity that's being used to serve their community and be advocates in their community as well as the leader in me that was there and then also uh being at the ReadAcross America Taceno Elementary School was a great pride for our participants that were there. Uh this year we've had 10 teachers dismissed and non-reelected.

five were in the special committed to students in their community. They were supported by their colleagues and they were supported and engaged um with their providers. They did provide a path to success and we need to find a way to provide them uh greater opportunities to grow in the district by instead of only giving them a few

months uh for those that were non-reelected in the first year. Also, we want to make sure that our educators who are on temporary contracts are given a commitment for the following year early. They are there for a temp contract until June. We are now in the hiring season and we should commit to them so that they know that they will

be returning to TVSD to continue serve serving the students of Tmacula Valley. Thank you. Next up is Jeff Pac followed by Good evening again. I'm sorry I need to come up here and say this. I was a journalist for 25 years and I love a long dash. So that's all I'll say about that. As for Jen Weisma's comment

toward me about behind the scenes, again, how many times are you going to sit up there and talk about things happening where nobody can see them happen? You do it repeatedly on a myriad of subjects that actually matter. And by now, I'd expect to see results. Only results matter. Another report and lip service about caring about teachers and students while patronizingly saying,

"Trust us won't cut it. It's put up or shut up time." A Wood's going to come up here and read the letter the Barry family submitted for the record. A Wood's going to do that because Melinda Anderson Anderson inexplicably asked to cut the one with the letter off the agenda. Clearly not of her own valition. Now, it's been a month since

parents of a TV student have asked for board leadership to address this issue to no avail. But we will spend hours and hours and thousands of dollars with attorneys to create legal, illegal, frankly, unconstitutional board policies that attempt to [ __ ] each other and solve problems that don't exist. But this father and mother want your help, long dash,

and you can't be bothered. You don't have to like students and parents who seek your help as a person in leadership position. Service is about serving all you're entrusted with as an elected, not just the ones who applaud you. For the record, you've had more to say about cursive publicly tonight than you had to say about real issues like sped. That says everything

about your priorities. And for the record, Melinda, trusting teachers to continue to adhere to rules they already comply with is not partisan. Trusting teachers already doing the job is not a left vright issue. You made it partisan, long dash. And nobody here knows why. To quote a once- grounded and realistic board member at one point in time, Long Dash, this is a clown show.

Next speaker is Upn followed by Jennifer San Nicholas. I'm going to try to make this quick. Good evening again. Yesterday I attended the journey journey to excellence event and I want to commend the staff for organizing such a wonderful evening. The student performances were incredible and the food prepared by the CTE students was scrumptious. Made even more special

knowing some of the ingredients were grown right here through the TVHS regenerative agricultural program. The elementary school ambassadors welcoming the gifts uh the guests with their cheers and joy were unforgettable. I left on a high. But on the drive home, I realized how different that celebration of excellence is from what we often see happening in this boardroom.

They talked about 4,000 students being sped in the presentation and I can see how you've prioritized them today. Excellence rarely happens by accident. The CTE facility did not happen by accident and neither did the TVHS theater where with the event was held. Previous boards planned carefully, funded responsibly, and executed a long-term vision. They understood their job was to be the

oil in the wheels of progress, not the sand in the gears that grinds everything down. I do wish that the teachers contracts had been settled before the event. The success we celebrated was built on the on teachers and staff who show up every day. But some board members seem to want their cake and eat it too, raising concerns about spending

on student and community events while approving themselves a 93% raise behind closed doors. Having organized large-scale events, I think the cost was probably one month of your raise. and looking at publicly available data. Now the board members are paid more than an instructional aid continuing to enrich their blessed life. You put cursive writing on the agenda. Why not

this matter for uh public transparency? Is this legal? Maybe. Ethical? Absolutely not. The code of ethics you keep rewriting worthless. Thank you. Next up is Jennifer San Nicholas, followed by Julie Nicholson. Um, first I'd like to commend uh Cindy Hurley and the entire third grade team at Summit. Um, I got to be a part of the playground

inclusion project. Um, Miss Ve or Dr. and Melissa and several uh others were there. And it was an incredibly um amazing thing as a special needs mom to see four I think it was four classrooms full of third graders designing playgrounds for people of all abilities to be able to use the equipment and um things like that are going to change the world

one day. So um that was just amazing to me and um I wanted to commend them. Um, and I'd also like to congratulate us, Superintendent VeZ, and the entire cabinet for the amazing state of the district last night. It was great to see students involved in every aspect of the evening and all of you enthusiastically repping your departments

in the skits and presentations. Um, I really like the first plot point on the map in last night's presentation as kids first always. I love seeing that. I love seeing that from the cabinet, from the staff, both classified and certificated. I love seeing it most from the parents and from Mr. Schwarz and Mr. Barham. I would like to start

seeing it from the board majority instead of my voters first, those who elected me, my donors first, or the building community. As a parent, I want my kids' needs to come before mine and before all the other adults always. Thank you, Julie Nicholson, followed by Bernard Good evening, board. Um, I my name is Julie Nicholson. I'm a parent of a Great Oak,

two Great Oak students. And I want to start by thanking Dr. Amber Lane and the Great Oak Administration. Um, her commitment to keeping the children safe while still respecting their right to assemble was evident. I also want to take to thank Mr. Santon. As a history teacher, he understands better than anyone in the classroom that um he un he understands better than anyone

that the classroom is a place for critical thinking. By sponsoring the Turning Point Club on campus, he is providing a space for students to engage with diverse viewpoints, which is exactly what the Federal Equal Access Act was designed to protect. Regarding the guest speaker, Jessica Tapia, we should all be deeply troubled that a student-led event was met with a

death threat. In our district's non-discrimination statement, we commit to a safe school environment that prohibits discrimination based on religion and political belief. When we allow threats to move a speaker to Zoom, we are seeing a direct assault on that safety. The legality um the legal reality is that u Miss Tapia's stance on parental rights is no longer just a controvers

controversial opinion. Just last week in Marbella versus Bont, the US Supreme Court blocked California's gender secrecy policies, affirming that parents have a fundamental right to be involved in their children's lives. By upholding the law and allowing this club to meet, Grado High School is teaching our students that the First Amendment belongs to everyone, not just those with the loudest voices or the

most popular opinions. My son and his peers are learning integrity and perseverance because the district chose to follow the law rather than to succumb to intimidation. Thank you for protecting the rights of all the students. Bernard followed by Greg Langworthy. Good evening. After hearing something uh this evening about student behavior and safety as well as for teachers, I think I have something of

a history lesson. I'm old enough to recall my days in public schools when the Bible, often Psalm 23, was read each day by a student before classes had begun and the end of the school year was known as Christmas vacation. Not a simple and empty name, winter break. To hear school Christmas plays, songs like Oh Holy Night and Silent Night,

really brought joy to the world. Then came in the early 1960s a woman atheist who detested knowing that her son had to listen to God's word, the Bible. She eventually was led the way to the Supreme Court, taking the Bible and Christmas out of schools. This had been after she took her family abroad with the desire to live in

the communist Soviet Union, but was rebuffed by Russian consular officials and then returned to the United States. This atheist would eventually win her day in the Supreme Court in 1963, aided by vote by one of the justices who was a former member of the Ku Klux Clan. After years of various public fanfare, after winning her case, the atheist was murdered in 1995 by one of her own

members of the atheist organization she created. As it happened that one son, a forementioned recon converted to Christianity and became a Baptist minister 15 years after his mother's de demise. Imagine that. What a U-turn for Christ. for anyone who would reply to me, separation of church and state, as one had said to me the last time I attended the schoolboard meeting and

which is nowhere in the constitution. Here is a quiz question. What have generations seen since the 1960s when the Bible was refused in schools and in terms of greater numbers of addictions? Perhaps this is the evolution of a country of the Bible was thrown out of schools but now finds its way into federal and state prisons. Thank you.

Next up is Greg Langworthy followed by Lindsay. So thank you to Great Oak for protecting the right of these guys to have a club to speak. I think all of us in this room of differing political opinions, we exercise our right to speak every time we come to a TVUSD board meeting. Sometimes it's not um peaceful, but we're exercising our right and so we have to

protect that for everybody. Uh the comment I have um the violence, you know, I saw the pictures coming in. Um I've taught special ed, I've taught uh community school, which you know, the really rough kids. I've taught um public school, Christian school. But a couple things that I think are valuable is that the the tougher the classroom, the stricter

the rules have to be and the more consistent the enforcement has to be. Those things don't cost money. Um so that is one suggestion I have. Another suggestion I have is one school that I was teaching at um they use cameras and I was on film, the students were on film. It really is a deterrent to to bad behavior. And I think every

parent will know this around the kitchen table. If you leave your kids alone at the kitchen table, especially when they're young, there's going to be problems. There's going to be things that are thrown around. But if a parent's there, the behavior improves. So two things I would suggest is encouraging more parental involvement, encouraging parents to come sitting on the

classroom. That was one of the best things I ever did is have parents come in and sit on my classroom and improve the behavior of the kids and maybe consider the cameras and then you do not have doubts about what actually happened in the classroom. I don't know if that can be done. We use cell phone cameras which were real cheap.

But those are two suggestions I have. Thank you Lindsay followed by Dave David B. Okay. At the end of the day, parents are the only and the primary decision makers in their children's lives. Not the board, not individual trustees, and certainly not political narratives pushed from this deis. If a parent gives their child permission to speak with someone, whether

that is a trustee, a community member, or anyone else, that decision belongs to the parent. No one sitting here has the authority to override that. And that is why what happened is so troubling. Trustees Jen Wearsman, Joseph Kamaroski repeatedly present themselves as the beacons of parental rights. You say it in meetings. You say it publicly and you say it you say it as if you alone

speak for parents. Yet when the actual parents of a TVUSD student made their wishes extremely clear, you ignored them. You overrode them and you exposed their child from this very deis. So the question becomes very simple. Do parental rights actually matter to you or only when they serve your politics? Because parental rights are not something you get to selectively apply. They

either apply to every single parent in this district or they mean nothing. And I will say this very plainly, no one sitting on this deis will ever tell me who my child is allowed to have a conversation with. That decision belongs to me, the parent. Also, we are told that quote a lot happens behind the scenes. I've heard it

in this meeting twice and I've heard it in the previous meeting. Mrs. Wearsma, you've now said that. But the only things that are supposed to happen behind the scenes are closed session items. Committee work is supposed to be reported publicly with updates and most importantly solutions. Yet, when it comes time to report back, we see neither. The drug intervention program and subcommittee

discussion started eight months ago, and eight months later, there is still no plan, no proposal, and no solution for the families who need it. So, if all this work is happening behind the scenes, the community deserves to ask, "Where are the results?" Because after eight months, all we've seen is a lot of talking and still no solutions.

Next up is David B, followed by Emil Barham. Good evening. I sent an email to the board and Dr. Veles three weeks ago. Unfortunately, my concerns as a parent in this district are being ignored and disregarded. My email had been on the agenda to be read tonight, but it was pulled, so I will read it now. We are submitting this

correspondence as a formal governance complaint regarding comments made by trustees Kamaroski and Wearsma during the February 10th board meeting. Our concern is not that trustees may raise governance questions. It is how allegations of misconduct against a fellow trustee were raised publicly without following the process outlined in governance handbook page 24 which describes the protocol for resolving alleged misconduct

witnessed by a fellow team member. During open session, both trustees made statements suggesting that trustee Barham acted inappropriately during a meeting with our minor son. These statements included claims that the meeting was out of line, references to moral judgment and professionalism, and even character character characterizations of his actions as lawless. These allegations were presented publicly and said to be based

on thirdparty accounts and emails. However, the governance protocol calls for addressing concerns directly with the trustee involved, seeking clarification and factf finding first, using leadership channels, and avoiding public escalation before internal review. No one contacted us as the parents of the minor referenced before these statements were made publicly. Beyond the governance process concerns, these allegations drew our minor

son into a governance dispute without consent and exposed him to public scrutiny despite our having already raised those concerns with Dr. Kroski prior to that meeting. We respectfully request that this matter be reviewed through the established governance process, that expectations be clarified for how trustees address allegations involving students or minors, and that we are informed of any discussions or actions referencing

our son or our family going forward. Thank you. Next up is the Bardham followed by Jean Fia. So, I'm speaking as a citizen and not as a member of the board. Um that man gave me permission to talk to his son. His son wanted to petition his government and we met and it was a great conversation. So I had custodial uh permission

but I want to talk about the board governance handbook which sets out a clear structured process for addressing concerns about trustee conduct in this instance. Where's man Kamaroski? You bypassed those steps. You did not initiate any direct goodfaith communication with the trustee whose conduct you questioned. You did not seek firsthand information or context from the parents of the of the student. Uh you cho that you chose

to reference by allegation in a televised public meeting. Instead, you moved immediately to public accusation, substituting speculation for verified fact and unilateral judgment for the collaborative deliberative process our handbook requires. The most serious consequence of your conduct is the harm to a student who is entitled to privacy, dignity, and protection from public embarrassment by the very adults you your district. Whatever

concern you had, believe that they you were rising raising nothing justified publicly characterizing alleged misconduct by a trustee and a student without prior notice to his family, without any effort to obtain firsthand information, and without any apparent consideration of the foreseeable impact on that student. Shame on you. Accordingly, I admonish you, both of you, for bypassing the board's established governance

protocol, for failing to engage in any me meaningful factf finding or direct communication with the trustee and his parents involved before erring allegations in public. Shame on you. Time. Last speaker, Jean Femia. Jean Femia. Last speaker. Good evening. The student at the last board meeting who wondered if you had ever been taught basic civility and empathy was right. The

teacher who called you children was right. And the speaker who said, "We've got to do better was precisely right." Did you notice what he said? He didn't say, "You've got to do better." He said, "We've got to do better." People ask me sometimes why I come to schoolboard meetings. My kids graduated from TVUSD long time ago. My grandkids don't live here. So why do I

care? I care because this is my community. For almost 40 years, I've lived here. I've volunteered here, worked here, played here. This is my Wii. Is it yours? And if you're thinking, "Oh, it's not me. I'm not the problem." Let's review. Among many examples, Mrs. Wisma publicly accused Mr. Schwarz of sexual harassment. Mr. Schwarz refused to be on the

same crew as Dr. Kamaroski. Dr. Kamroski called Dr. Anderson a pathological liar. Dr. Anderson accused Mr. Mr. Barum of improper attentions to a student as we've just heard. Mr. Barum said Mrs. Wearsma and Dr. Kamaroski show quote a level of incompetence that I find staggering end quote. The speakers have been even worse. I challenge us all trustees and speakers and audience to

do better. If we come here wanting to score points against the other side, we've failed. If we come here even thinking about sides, we have failed. So please leave your ego at the door, those nice security people will take care of it for you. No more rude accusations from the deis or sarcastic digs or snarky comments. Thank you.

I'm going to ask the board by consensus if you want to take a five or 10 minute recess before we get into action. We got one person. We got We got three. Five or 10. We'll do five. We'll do five. Len, would you mind keeping it up at five minutes? Audience, we are going to start. Thank you.

I know. I know. Okay, I'm starting this back up. Thank you, Bernard. You We got to cross it. Yeah. Yeah. Just Just hand it to security. Bernard and it's a security Bernard and it's a security. Okay. Okay. So, we're on action item number one, new textbook, wildlife and natural resource management. If the room can uh please settle down,

please. I think we all needed a little break there. Okay. Um is there any discussion on this item? Okay. Okay. Then I'll call for a motion and a second to approve the textbook wildlife and natural resource management. Do I have a motion and a second by Mr. Barham? Moved by Mr. Barham, seconded by Mr. Schwarz. Len, would you mind

calling role? Where's absent Anderson? Yes. Barham, yes. Schwarz, yes. Kamroski, yes. Student vote, yes. Approved. Um, four members approved. One was absent. Um, next item we have one comment. This is on the second interm financial report. We'll have that comment first, then we'll have uh Mrs. Lash present board. Um, we we just came off of two minutes. Do you want to hold

it at two or keep it at three or consensus? Keep Three action items. We'll do a three minute. We did two because of the amount of people in public comments. Keep it at three. Okay. Edgar Diaz. Okay. Not present. So, we're just going to have Mrs. Lash present. And we have a 10-minute presentation and then Well, yeah, he's late. We'll

have Lash present. Well, you just come up. All right. All right. So, we'll we'll have you sit down, Mr. Diaz. Or yes, Mrs. Lash. We'll have you come up, Mr. Diaz. Edgar Diaz. My apologies. I heard your other comment, but I was feeding pizza to the people outside in the cold, your security people. Uh, I want to start make sure I want to start the the

the letter of the day started by Upne with the letter F. I'm going to start with fund. In this second interim, what I want to highlight is the work that our members of Tmacula Valley Educator Association have done is 87% of them, a super majority have said that public school funding in the future is important. 87% signed a petition to make sure that that

um makes it onto the November ballot. Uh and when I offered that last week or last meeting here, four out of 10 people in the DIS have signed it. uh less than half of the board has signed it to make sure that we don't lose more than $40 million to TBUSD. I'm asking if you are committed to make sure that this makes it

onto the voters for November to make sure that our schools, our students, our educators, our classrooms do not lose more than $40 million for the three-year budget. As we look at the second interim, you you have the chance to decide what the future is. you have the opportunity to lay the foundation to recruit the next generation of educators who are coming to TBUSD. In

our retirement roles, you may have noticed there's been a total of about 55 people who are retiring. Many of those educators have served uh 25 to 30 40 years. The with the maturity of TBUSD, we are now pulling in second generation of homegrown students. Homegrown students who become teachers are the ones who are committed to serve in the communities where they grew

up. But it's also important for us to be able to provide for them to be able to afford to live in the community that they are investing their time for the families and students here of Tmacula. It is up to you to prioritize the quality of your employees by who we are able to attract and retain throughout the years.

It's the ability for you to be able to prioritize educators and the support personnel that work for you. It is the opportunity and time for you to fund safe and stable schools. Thank you. You okay, Mrs. Lash, please join us. Okay. Thank you. Uh good evening everyone. Um, I am here to present the second interim budget report and it it won't be a long update,

but I do want to acknowledge there's an entire team of people that helped get this uh budget prepared. They're represented tonight by Mr. Kevin Brain, who's here, our executive director of business services, and actually it's a district-wide event, uh, updating the budget. So, um, big thank you to the entire team that put this budget together. So with that, we'll look at what's changed

since first interim, our multi-year projections, and our ending fund balance. And lastly, we'll end with some things to be on the lookout for. So by comparison, um just these are the major assumptions that we were included in the numbers that you're about to see. And so let's look at revenue first. Some really good news. Uh our attendance is up. Our attendance is up

from 94.4% 4% which was last year to 94.8% 8% this year, which doesn't feel like a large increase, but that's about 908a. That equates to over a million dollars more in LCFF revenue, more just from December from our projections. So, really good news on the LCFF front. Um, federal revenue is pretty flat. other state revenue. So, um, Senate Bill 105, uh, actually was enacted and

that put ELOP into two different tiers of rates. What that's doing is that's increasing our revenue for ELOP. So, that's that change or that increase in our other state revenue number. And then, um, if you'll recall at the last board meeting, we applied for a grant for electric school buses a number of years ago. We are getting

those buses now. And so we are recognizing the grant amount of 1.9 million. On the next slide, you'll see the purchase of those electric buses in our um capital expenditures. So increase in revenue with an offset in increasing increasing expenditures. So looking at expenditures, uh salaries and benefits aren't changing much from first interim, but our books and supplies

are going up. And the reason for that is we have a uh secondary math adoption that we were planning on receiving like in July. We uh talked to our friends in ed services and we um heard that it would be beneficial to receive that curriculum before the end of the school year. So that $3 million increase is just moving from next

year's budget to this year's budget in that books and supplies line. And then uh as I mentioned on the previous slide, we uh received the ZESBY grant for the electric buses. And so the capital outlay increase of 1.9 million is for the electric buses that we're going to get this year which is very exciting. So looking at the multi-year projections

um be uh you can see that we are still deficit spending at first interim it looked like about $20 million each year. Now it looks like 20 million this year almost 30 next year and then down to 13 the last year. The reason for that is we are moving up our textbook adoption by a year. Instead of having it over a three-year period of

time evenly, 2627 is going to be a large purchase year. So that's why that is higher and 2728 is lower. But the bottom line is we are of course making lots of headway, making good decisions to help our financial position slowly over time rather than radical decisions. I know a lot of us are hearing about massive layoffs in uh other

districts and I'm just so grateful that we've done a really good job building up a a reserve and the board has taken appropriate actions to be fiscally conservative and it's really paying off in that we are heading into this storm slowly and um methodically. And so we are chipping away at that both in revenues and expenditures but we

are still deficit spending. We are spending more than we're bringing in. If we look at our savings account down at the bottom there, you can see that we're spending down our savings account by about $15 million a year. But again, we have a healthy reserve. We can sustain it for a significant amount of time. And we're kind of almost in a

we're making minor adjustments, but we're in a wait and see. Let's see. Maybe things will get better, maybe things will get worse. Um, but the good news is we do have a rainy day account that will help us weather the storm and allow us to not have to make too drastic of decisions. So with that, let's talk about moving forward. So

we are fully implemented in our transitional kindergarten rollout. We are projecting to start declining in enrollment starting next year. That is for a number of reasons. Birth rates are low. Um it's expensive to live in uh TmAcula and in California in general. And we're no longer a a young family community except for in French Valley. Uh we are kind of built out in much

of our city other than we're, you know, there's building on the other side of the freeway and some more in French Valley, but we're pretty built out on the south and central part of um Tmacula. And what that's doing is it is making our enrollment year-over-year. We're graduating more students than we're bringing in. And so that's causing a

decline in enrollment. Um, our cola for 2627 and 2728 was reduced at the governor's budget. Um, so we'll have to see if those numbers hold. And then cost of goods continue to rise. What we spend in a single volleyball or gas, all of those things go up year over year and all of that comes out of the funded cola. Lastly, um, just

talking about addressing that budget issue. So, we're really going to remind everyone as we go into the new budget year, our goal is to sustain current programs and if we can not add to the budget, but how do we continue to do what we're doing for kids? The word is sustaining um and we're trying to keep that sustaining mindset.

We do evaluate vacancies, evaluating vacancies and seeing if we really need to backfill those um and looking at the budget through attrition. And then lastly, um we are going to look to some of those one-time funds to cover expenses since we are in a structural deficit. How do we maximize those onetime dollars that the state has sent down? And

then things to be on the lookout for. So April's a big month for the state of California, right? Tax collections. Um so March is the corporate deadline, April is the individual deadline. And we always look to those top earners and say, "How did we do?" because how they did is how we will how uh we as a state tend to um perform. So we'll be on

the lookout for those revenue uh tax collections for April. The governor's May revision. So that's a um an updated budget for next year and a better indicator of what our budget's going to look like. Uh enrollment trends are always really um helpful and we have projected to sustain those higher attendance rates of 94.8%. So, we're really hoping

we can sustain those rates. Um, and then lastly, looking at uh whether there's been a proposal to a fund more uh they call it the Spudbug Grant. I don't love the name. It's growing on me. Spud bug grant. There is a proposal to have more Spud Bug money next year along with more learning recovery emergency block grant money. Let's hope

those hold. Um, and Mr. Diaz brought up a great point. I will include it in my next budget update, which is the Education Protection Act, which is expiring. It will be um uh something for California to consider moving forward, and whether or not it is approved will have a significant impact on school district funding in California. So, with that, I'll take any questions that any

one may have. Thank you, Mrs. Lash. Uh we'll go in or voting order. Two rounds of two minutes if you want. Any questions? Okay. Uh, Miss Wor was going to pass Dr. Anderson. Okay, Mr. Barhams first. Okay, Mr. Schwarz, just thank you, Nicole, for always keeping us and for you guys who who do a great job of projecting what's going to be and

being so happens. Thank you. Um, Mr. Barham, any first round or second round? Nothing. Thank you, Miss Lash, for presenting. I have no comments. Okay, now I'm going to power on through these items for the audience uh on the board 3 through 11. A lot of reading. Um what's that? Oh, that's right. That's right. Okay. I call for a motion and a second to approve uh

two things. A a positive certification for the second interm financial report of the Tmaca Valley Unified School District for 2025-26 fiscal school year and two sub subsequent fiscal years and B revisions to the operating budget as outlined in the second interm financial report. Do I have a motion in a second? Second. Second. All right. Do I have a motion? I thought you moved. Oh, moved by

Dr. Anderson, seconded by Mr. Schwarz. Len, would you mind calling roll? Wearsman. Yes. Anderson, yes. Barham, yes. Schwarz, yes. Kamroski, yes. Student board member, yes. Motion adopted 5-0. Thank you, Len. And now we move on to three. Do we have any public comments on items 3 through 11? No. Okay. So, I'll power through these. Okay. This is No. Sorry. Yeah. I'm wondering do we you

know how we have to do we have to read all you said he wants to power through the No I know but there's all that reading we have to we have to conduct a hearing we have to conduct it's the boring it yeah we have to do it yeah I'm going to I'm going to be quick I can do this folks go

for it especially I drink a coke it's highowered sugar I shouldn't have done this but three notice to uh conduct a public hearing regarding proposed CFD number 2026 6-1 the proposed levy of special taxes and the authorization of incurring bond and indebtedness within CFD number 2026 or uh one and related matters. I call for a motion a second

to provide notice to conduct the required public hearing regarding the formation and authorization of special tax and bond and indebtedness. Do I have a motion a second? Moved second. Moved by Mr. Barham seconded by Mr. Schwarz. Would you mind calling ro yes Anderson? Yes. Barham, yes. Schwarz, yes. Kamaroski, yes. Student board member, yes. Motion adopted 5-0. Thank you,

Len. Following the order of proceedings for hearings and actions, Tmacula Valley Unified School District, Community Facilities District number 20261. Order of proceedings for CFD number 2026-1. These are the public hearings in the governing board's proceedings for Community Facilities District number 2026-1. The hearings are to inquire into one, the formation of the CFD. two, the levy of special taxes in the CFD. And three,

they need to incur bonded indebtedness and other debt in the CFD to finance the certain or sorry, the cost of certain proposed facilities. Does anyone wish to file written protest? If so, they must be filed with their clerk now. No written protest. Item four, approval the approval to adjourn from regular session to open public hearing in the governing board proceeding for

uh information or for formation of the district's community facilities district number 2026-1 and for the issuance of the bond and other debt. I call for a motion, a second to approve journing from regular session to open public hearings in the governing board's proceeding for the formation of district's community facilities district number 2026-1 and for the issuance of the bond and other

debt. Do I have a motion in a second? Moved by Mr. Schwarz. Mo Barham. Oh, Mr. Barham. Sorry there. Seconded. Seconded by Dr. Anderson. Len, would you mind calling roersma? Yes. Anderson? Yes. Barham? Yes. Schwarz is absent. Kamroski. Yes. Student board member. Yes. Motion adopted. 4 to01. Uh absent. Uh the board will now address matters related to the proposed formation of the

community facilities district number 2026-1 of the Tmacula Valley Unified School District. Here here and after referred to as the CFD. Action item number five. Conduct a public hearing regarding the formation incurring bond and indebtedness within CFD number 2026-1. I call for a motion and a second to conduct the required public hearing regarding the formation authorization of special tax and bond and indebtedness. Do

I have a motion second? Moved by Mr. Barham, seconded by Mr. Schwarz. Len, would you mind calling roersma? Yes. Anderson, yes. Barham, yes. Schwarz, yes. Kamoski, yes. Student board member, yes. Motion adopted 550. Thank you, Len. This is the time place designated for public hearing regarding the formation of CFD and the proposed levy of the special taxes on the property within

the proposed CFD. The hearings are now officially open to have orderly hearings. We will first have presentations by staff about the CFD. After that, we will receive comments and questions as well as any oral protests from interested persons. When all comments have been received, the hearings will be closed. Dr. Dr. VeZ, I have you to introduce uh Oh, sorry. Dr. Vez introduces the item. This is

where you speak, right? Or Exactly. Okay. Got it. Yeah. Thank you, Dr. Kamski. So, the purpose of these proceedings is to establish a CFD to finance school facilities and valleywide recreation and park district facilities. There are two property owners in the proposed CFD, which each have submitted a ballot tonight and has expressed support for the CFD. As you may remember, the

process requires a number of steps. And now I'll let the board president walk you through those. Is there any member Is there any member of the public who would like to make comments, questions, and protests from the audience? District staff have informed me that all notices and filings for the public hearing have been duly and timely completed

and are file the district offices. Six, approval to close the public hearing and return to regular session. I call for a motion a second that the board close the public hearing regarding the proposed CFD number 2026-1 including the proposed levy of special taxes and authorization of bond indebtedness and return to regular session. Do I have a motion in a

second? Moved by Mr. Seconded by Mr. Barham. Len, would you mind calling ro yes Anderson? Yes. Barham, yes. Schwarz, yes. Koski, yes. Student board member, yes. Thank you. Motion adopted 5-0. The public hearing is now closed. The board may now ask questions and discuss the CFD. And the discussion is through. The board considers and adopts the following resolutions. Action item number seven,

resolution number 202526-26 authorizing resolution of formation of community facilities district number 2026-1 of the Tmacula Valley Unified School District. I call for a motion a second to adopt resolution number 202526-26 which establishes community facilities direct uh district number 2026-1 the CFD and authorizes the levy of special taxes within the CFD subject to the approval of qualified electors in the

CFD. Do I have a motion in a second? He moved it. Second Mr. Schwarz moved uh seconded by Mr. Baram. Len, would you mind calling role? We wear no. Anderson, yes. Barham, yes. Schwarz, yes. Kamroski, no. Student vote. Refrain. Motion adopted 3 to2. Thank you, Len. Number eight, resolution 202526-27. Resolution SL27, resolution determining necessity to incur bonded

and other debt of the Tmacula Valley Unified School District Community Facilities District 2026-1. I call for a motion and a second to adopt resolution 202526/27 which declares a necessity to incur bonded indebtedness in community facilities district number 2026-1 and the maximum original principal amount of $7 million and other debt for the purposes or purpose of financing the cost of certain

public facilities and authorizes the issue in of bonds subject to the approval of the qualified electors of the CSD. Do I have a motion in a second? moved second. Moved by Mr. Barham, seconded by Mr. Schwarz. Len, would you mind calling role? Wema, no. Anderson, yes. Barham, yes. Schwarz, yes. Kamaroski, no. Student vote. Refrain. Motion adopted 3 to2. Thank you,

Len. Nine. Resolution number 2025-26/27. Resolution calling special election of the Tmacula Valley Unified School District Community Facilities District number 2026-1. I call for a motion and a second to adopt resolution number 2025-26/28 calling a special landowner election and community facilities district number 2026-1 on the issues of the levy of the special tax the incurring a bond indebtedness and other debt

and the establishment of the appropriations limit do I have a motion in a second moved moved by Mr. Schwarz seconded by Mr. Barham Len, would you mind calling roll? Wema no. Anderson, yes. Barham, yes. Schwarz, yes. Kamaskki, no. Student vote, refrain. Motion adopted, 3 to2. Thank you, Len. At this time, I ask the clerk to open the ballots and announce the results of the

election. Melinda or Dr. Anderson, excuse me. I am in I am in receipt of two ballots and they each vote yes. The ballot measure passes by required two/3 vote. Thanks for that break. The results of the election being unanimously in favor of the levy of the special taxes, the establishment of the appropriations limit and the incurring of

bonded indebtedness and other debt. We may now proceed with the final actions for the CFD 10. Action item 10, resolution 2025-26/29 declaring results of the special election and directing recording of notice of special tax lean of the Tmacula Valley Unified School District Community Facilities District number 2026-1. I call for a motion and a second to adopt resolution number

2025-26/29 declaring the results of the special landowner election in the community facilities district number 2026-1 on the issues of the levy of the special tax the incurring of bonded indebtedness and other debt and the establishment of the appropriations limit and directing recordation of the notice of special tax lean. Do I have a motion in a second? Moved.

Moved by Mr. Schwarz. Seconded by Mr. Barham. Len, would you mind calling ro? Wearsma. Yes. Anderson, yes. Barham, yes. Schwarz, yes. Kamoski, no. Motion of student vote. Sorry. Motion. Motion adopted four to one. Thank you, Len. The board will now consider the introduction of an ordinance levying taxes in the CFD. This is often called the first reading of the ordinance. The

board will consider adoption of the ordinance, sometimes called the second reading at our meeting April 16, 2026. 11. Action item 11, first reading of the ordinance number 202526-1 of the board of education of the Tmacula Valley Unified School District levying taxes within Tmacula Valley Unified School District Communities Facilities District number 2026-1. I call for a motion a second to introduce

the ordinance and wave the reading of the full ordinance. Do I have a motion and a second? Moved. Seconded by Mr. Schwarz, seconded by Mr. Barum. Len, would you mind calling role where Smith? Yes. Anderson? Yes. Barham? Yes. Schwarz? Yes. Kamaroski? No. Motion. Oh, excuse me. It's okay. Student Boon, I'll refrain. Refrain. Motion adopted. 41. Thank you everyone. That completes

tonight's proceedings related to the community facilities district. End of CFD number 2026-1 items on to item 12, amendment to the employment agreement for superintendent. And then on this, Dr. VeZ, do you want to uh read out anything or is this Okay. If there's no discussion on this, I call for a motion, a second to approve the amendments to the superintendent's employee

agreement. Moved. Moved by Mr. Schwarz. Seconded by Mr. Barum. Len, would you mind calling roersma? Yes. Anderson? Yes. Barham. Yes. Schwarz. Yes. Kamaskki. Yes. Student vote. Yes. Motion adopted. 5-0. Thank you. Len 13. New Supreme Court ruling, legal compliance review, parent notification, and student records. I move that the board direct the super up. We have four public comments. And

I'll ask the board whether we want to do two or three minute comments. Let the board decide. How many? We have four. Three. Do we'll do consensus by two. We've reached two. But I do have to read off this. At approximately 9:30 p.m., the governing board will determine which of the remaining agenda items can be considered and acted upon

before 10 p.m. and may continue all other items on which additional time is required until a future meeting. All meetings are scheduled to end at 10 p.m. Board consensus, do you want to hear all remaining items? No. Yes. Yes. Yes, absolutely. Get it over with. Otherwise, we're here. Um, all right. We're on board. We're getting through it. And now we have

four comments. We reach board consensus. Two minutes each comment. Okay. First up is Sarah Bell, followed by Caroline Hoffman. Did he push a button? Just out of curiosity. Uh, we might have a battery needed. Yeah, we tend to die out when we go late, so we'll get you a battery. prostate. It's not just something serious, I'm telling you. I know. Yeah, maybe. I know.

Good evening, board members. As a parent in this district and like many families here tonight, I deeply care about the well-being of our students and the strength of our schools. I want to begin by clarifying something that has been repeatedly mischaracterized in this room. Since we moved here in 2009 to TVUSD, there's never been policies that hide or kept secrets

from parents or legal guardians. Our district's policies have been long designed to balance the two responsibilities that schools have. Respecting parental involvement and protecting the privacy and safety of students when they're at school. The rest of the time they're ours. Parents rights were never absent in our district, nor were they suddenly created by recent board platforms. Parents have always had rights and involvement

in their children's education here to the extent the parent wants to be involved. In 2023, our district became the center of a highly public debate over the same topic that you're discussing tonight. This harmed students, resulted in walkouts, conflicted with state law, created costly legal battles, and pulled our schools into a controversy that reached far beyond our community. Board considers

this injunction. We don't know how this is going to turn out yet, but the item calls for staff training related to these policies. Let's wait. When AB1955 became actual state law, nobody on the board asks for staff to be trained on that, but it's actual state law. This is not state law yet. Placing this item on the agenda

tonight and directing training around it does not move our district toward or improve students day-to-day experience in our lives. They were just saying kids first. After kids first, let's remember this also affects teachers, counselors, and staff that are placed in the middle of a political and legal conflict that they did not create. Our students deserve stability safely and

schools that are focused on learning. Thank you. Next, this time you're back. Followed by Jennifer San Nicholas. I want to urge the board to slow down before rewriting district policy based on the recent Supreme Court order in Marbel versus Bont. That case has not actually been decided. The court did not issue a final ruling on the constitutionality of California policies. What it

is issued was a temporary procedural order about whether a lower court's injunction could remain in place while the appeal continues. The litigation is still ongoing in the Ninth Circuit. The legal issues are still being argued. The facts are still being reviewed and the case may very well return to the Supreme Court after the appellet process is complete. In other words, the law is not settled

here. While the court suggested the parents might ultimately prevail, it was only making a preliminary judgment about a temporary order, not issuing a final decision on the law. That distinction matters. School districts should not be rewriting policy every time an interim court order is issued in an ongoing case. Doing so creates instability for staff, confusion for families, and policies that may have to be

reversed once the court's actual decision is reached. Good governments means making policy based on a clear and settled law, not trying to predict the outcomes of litigation that is still moving through the courts. If the courts ultimately issue a final ruling, districts across California will receive clear guidance at the time. But changing district policy now based on a case that's not

been adjudicated is not careful leadership. It's speculation. And speculation is a poor foundation for public policy. Next up is Jennifer San Nicholas followed by. So, I'm not sure if you don't know how the federal judiciary works or if you're just so excited to out some kids to their parents you're going to strike while the iron is hot,

but this case is not decided. The injunction was lifted. This appeal could very well contradict your board policy. So, in the interest of good governance, perhaps not waffling back and forth on policy and waiting for a decision is the best route to take. This board already looks ridiculous and has a reputation across the state. Meanwhile, if one student in this district

is outed and self harms in any way, I will be the first one in line to point the finger at you guys. Class speaker, oop, all of the points I was going to bring up have been repeated. I did mention this the last time you put this on the agenda that why don't we just wait when the case is settled,

we will get information. And I don't know if we are attending the same meetings over the past 2 years. This topic has been discussed to death everywhere. If there was even the slight indication, the board members over here, I'm I'm telling you this, even if there was a smell of parent exclusion anywhere, these two would have been all over it. Like even they're they're like

stretching so far over a picture meeting of a board member with a child. If there was even a possibility that this was happening in our school district, these two would have been over it. I am sure their supporters fully believe that even if there was a slight indication. So I don't know why we keep on like bringing up like there's something

sinister going on in the school district. There is not. I am on campus. I would highly encourage what Mr. Langworthy said to go attend an actual class. We the school district every employee over here including yourselves. You've taken the oath to respect federal and state law. You keep on if you keep on ignoring it all the time does not mean the

district staff is also doing it. They are required to follow the law. Whatever it is speaking of like you know this is just an injunction. Speaking about first amendment I wish the Turning Point USA kids were here. There's a very good debate topic they can take on where two board members were really uh against ING over here and we're

bringing up this Supreme Court ruling. First amendment is like the state shall not like you know uh promote one religion over the other. These two raised like big objections Dr. Kamroski and Mrs. Versma why ising coming to a world history world religions class where they're actually studying about religions and now everybody is about freedom of religion, freedom of speech,

Christians are being prosecuted. Where were these people when that was happening? There was a group of like parents who were here objecting about the speakers from ING that they did not want like you know the speakers they thought they were not Hindu speakers or whatever. I I this would have been a really good topic for debate for

them also. We should not pick and choose like you know oh this serves my purpose let's pick it have a discussion. This is again it just causes like you know culture wars. It does not help move our district forward. You keep on bringing these topics up again and again. If it was happening, you would have known about it by now. Talk

to your children. Parental involvement is not going to increase by passing new rules, new policies, new all of that. Thank you. Last speaker, Lindsay We often hear concerns from members of this board about placing unnecessary pressure on district staff and asking them to divert their time away from work that directly supports students. In this situation, that concern is very real. The case

being referenced Mayor Belly versus Bont is still actively being litigated and has not reached a final resolution. Until that process is complete, California school districts are required to operate under existing California law and ed code, which already govern how districts handle student records in communication with parents. Directing the superintendent and district staff to conduct a policy review tied to an unresolved

lawsuit is premature. It asks staff to spend time responding to speculation rather than focusing on the work that actually impacts classrooms and students. Our staff already carries significant responsibilities. Every directed from this board requires coordination, legal consultations, administrative review, and staff time. Those hours come from somewhere, and too often they come at the expense of work that directly supports our schools. I am certainly

interested in seeing how the courts ultimately resolve these issues. But until there is a final ruling or a change in law, the district's responsibility is straightforward. Follow the law as it exists today. Bringing forward bringing forward items like this while litigation is ongoing does not create clarity for our district. Instead, it creates unnecessary work for staff and

it shifts attention away from the priorities that should remain at the center of this board's focus, our students. For those reasons, I cannot support adopting this action item today. Okay. So, we'll go first on this. I just want to give a huge shout out to Dr. Anderson. Thank you for uh getting behind this and putting a lot

of this together. Um definite shout out to the Supreme Court. Awesome job. Praise God. So, what I'm going to do is make a motion in a second and then we'll have uh discussion. Two minutes first round, two minutes second round. We have to. I move that the board direct the superintendent conduct to conduct a review of all district

policies, administrative regulations, and staff guidance related to student gender identity and communication with parents and to return to the board with any recommended revisions necessary to ensure compliance with federal law, including the injunction issued in Marbelli versus Bont. Further, the superintendent shall ensure that any findings from this review are communicated to district staff and that the appropriate

administrative guidance or training is provided so that staff clearly understand the district's expectations and any necessary steps required to ensure compliance with applicable law and legal injunction, constitutional parental rights and student privacy protections. And with that, I'm going to um specify that this go into the same um two board members, Dr. Anderson and Mrs. We since you're working on the Mammoot case that

this goes right into there and I'm going to um include in the motion that you work with Dr. Oh, sorry Tony DeMarco from the firm. Do I have a second? I motion for this. I have a second from Mrs. Wema. I will second. Okay. Now that we have on the floor, I yield all my comments first and second round and we'll start with voting

order. Mrs. Weman, do you have anything to say? I'm also going to thank Dr. Anderson for bringing this forward. It is a pretty monumental decision and I also want to take a moment vote on it. There was no Please be respectful in the audience. Thank you. No talking on it. It would be really nice. Excuse me, if you continue No, no. Let's just let's just

get something in order. If you continue to talk, I'll give the second objective warning that you're disturbing the board and all of you will leave the audience. We need to govern as a governing board. And if people want to interrupt, if you have that burning desire, you will force me to give you the second warning and you're

out. Please don't do that. Please be respectful of the governing board. Thank you, Miss Wman. Okay. So, want to thank Dr. Anderson for putting this on the agenda. I also want to give a shout out to former Assemblyman Billy and the Chino Valley Board President Sonia Shaw because those two were architects from the beginning talking about parental rights and Dr. Kamroski and I have

stood pretty firmly with them promoting policy. We've always recognized that parents are the primary stakeholders in their children's lives. We were told by the state and the attorney general that our position was illegal and harmful. And today, though I understand we're not at the complete finish line yet, today I believe we're also fully vindicated when Scotas issued

a historic ruling in Mirabelli Vivont. It did vacate the Ninth Circuit's stay and it reinstated the injunction that protects parents from being excluded or misled regarding their child's gender identity at school. The highest court in the land has now affirmed what we've known all along, which is the constitutional right of a parent to direct the upbringing of their child is

non-negotiable. I know we're proud to be on the right side of history. There's going to be more conversations. We as a district have looked at this very carefully and I do want to thank the staff for keeping things in mind with where the majority has consistently fallen on this issue. So I'm grateful that this is here and um thank you

to all of those trustees across the state who have been fighting for parents with this particular issue. Thank you Miss Wisma Dr. Anderson. So I want to clarify that Judge Bonitez issued a substanti substantive analysis and that's where most of the districts are getting their guidance. What the Supreme Court did not do is issue a full opinion on parental rights.

Instead, it vacated the Ninth Circuit stay and it allowed Judge Bonita's injunction to take effect again while the case continues. So what essentially the court said is the injunction should remain in place while the case proceeds and that means Judge Bonita's reasoning is currently the operating guidance. Um and lastly I do want to say again this is personal

because in this school district I know firsthand of a very close um family that had their child secretly transitioned at one of our schools. Um, and that's why I've for the last year put time into this. So, thank you, Dr. Anderson. Mr. Barum, so I need I'd like some clarificate. I don't understand what putting this into Mahmood versus Taylor. What

What are you going to be doing? We're not going to put them together. We're going because Jen and I are already working with the attorneys on Mammud with we're going to work separately with them on this. So that's kind of what he So again, this to me is irresponsible governance. Um there's a great deal of new legal

activity in this area and additional information is still emerging. It would be prudent, as the lawyer on the webinar said today, to wait for CSBA to release model policy guidance before considering any changes to current board policy. It was confirmed that AB1955 is still in effect. At this time, the law prohibits school districts from adopting policies that require

staff to disclose a student's gender identity to parents, and districts must continue operating in compliance with that statute. However, if a parent asks, "Is my kid being called by a different name or using different pronouns?" According to the ruling, we have to tell them. Um, but we're we can't man we're we're not mandated at this point to tell parents anything. Um but my

fear here is that we are going to uh with work with these two working everything is going to legal. Our legal bills are going to escalate. There is no reason for it. Let's wait for CSBA and it's it's there's no decision here yet. So, why are we why are we working here and and going to legal, especially in this financial

situation that we're in? I mean, we are we're escalating in our legal bills. There's no reason for it. Let's wait for CSBA. Mr. Schwarz, uh, yes. Uh, we were on a webinar today. Uh, Mrs. Deis, uh, Mr. Barham, myself, and I don't know if Mr. Mc Tasny and uh there was an attorney um who gave a summary of what

the decision from the Supreme Court meant and it is the case is still going on. I took pictures of all the slides of all the information that he gave us. I passed it on to the superintendent. There's nothing to do until the case is decided. We could talk about this forever. We could spend more money with the with the

lawyers. What does this do to help kids read, write, or do math better? I mean, come on. Let's focus on the students and why we're here. Miss Wormmith, second round. Come on. I don't have anything more to add other than I don't mind reaching out to CSVA to speak about the trajectory of what they see coming forward and I think there's only a couple of

things on the docket right now that we're discussing in terms of policy and issues. So I don't see this being a black hole by any means and I think that it wouldn't be difficult to make some preliminary decisions but then knowing the long term there are some other factors within the process that's that's fine too. So thank you Dr. Anderson. Yeah,

I just want to point out there were some practices that were specifically targeted in the injunction and I I can tell people haven't read either the Supreme Court's um like I said they didn't issue a a full analysis but they haven't they haven't read anything that has been put out by this because it seems like you guys don't understand. Thank

you Dr. Anderson. Um, no, I understand. No, he's just making No, I Oh, Mr. Barham, I do understand. New York Times running. Thank you. No, I know that. I do. No, I do understand. And I'm We want to comply with the law here. That's what we swore an oath to the Constitution. I'm concerned. Excuse me. Excu Can I have my

time back, please? You can add five seconds on a Thank you. Yeah. No, I mean I want to turn this over to our staff. I don't believe that Dr. Anderson or Mrs. Wearsma is qualified to look at all of the legal language and and come to any conclusions about what we need to do um as a district. I want to turn it over to Dr.

and our staff so that they can review the current law, court rulings, and guidance from CSBA and legal briefs to ensure that any future direction taken by this board aligns with state and federal law while maintaining clear communication with families and protecting students rights. That's their job. It's not your job, Dr. Anderson, and it's not your job, Mrs. Wema because what's going

to happen here is it's going to become the job of Demarco and Dietrich and we're going to spend thousands of dollars here for nothing. So that's my take. Mr. Schwarz. Yeah. Um yeah, I know what the decision was because I went to the webinar today and I have the information. I have it on my phone. I read it. I can reread it. I sent

it to Dr. and to the board and to uh for her to to go over. I I know um Mrs. Deas was on it. Mr. McTazznney was on it. We all were there. We heard what was decided. Nothing was decided. The Supreme Court issued a stay or an injunction or whatever, but nothing in the case in California was decided.

Can we please stop wasting time until the decision is made and work for our kids? Thank you. Thank you. I'll give my final round two and then we'll call upon Melissa Chai, student school board member. Um so for me, I'm very excited to have Tony DeMarco work on this and that's the motion in the second and um he's one of the best lawyers

I've seen in the entire state of California. In fact, defeated Bont and Chino. Really exciting. A A L R Tony DeMarco can't wait. Very exciting times for the parents. I yield my time. Melissa. Thank you, Dr. Koski. So, as the student here, I always try to think about how the issues we discuss affect the day-to-day experience of

students in our district. I understand that it's important for the district to periodically review its policies to make sure they align with current legal guidance and court rulings. Policy clarity and legal compliance are responsibilities every district takes seriously. At the same time, I do want to be mindful that discussions like this can sometimes place a spotlight on a relatively small

group of students. From a student perspective, it's important that any review of policies is handled carefully and thoughtfully with a strong emphasis on student well-being, dignity, and privacy. Schools should feel like a supportive environment for every student, and I hope that that remains central to how we approach conversations like this. I also think that it's important that as a board we continue focusing

on the majority um on focusing the majority of our time on the issues that most directly impact students daily educational experience. When I talk with students across the district, the concerns I hear most often relate to things like academic support, mental health resources, campus safety, college and career readiness, and ensuring students have access to opportunities that help them succeed after graduation. So, while

I understand the importance of reviewing policies for clarity and legal alignment, I hope that as a board we continue prioritizing the broader issues that affect the majority of students in our district. Thank you. Thank you, Melissa. Clarify one thing. Uh we're you made two So, there's two motions. The first is going to be to direct the um superintendent to conduct a

review. then we can meet with her and take it to it's basically the board members with Tony DeMarco in working with Dr. Vez. That is the whole motion. Yeah. Okay. To to start with Dr. and that's a motion in a second. I'm not going to read the whole motion, Steve. U you can uh L will put it on

the board. Last I would ask you to pay attention. I read it really slowly. Okay. But there's so much side talk going on that you can't hear what's being said. There was no side talk when I read the motion. when I read the motion. You know what, Mr. Schwarz? Pay attention, please. Okay. No. No. Nobody was talking when the motion

was read on the motion until I hear it. So, if you can do me a favor, read that motion. Yes, I'm going to read it. Thank you. And then I'm going to add to what we specified. Okay. Thank you. Thank you. In addition in addition to that, Mr. Schwarz, we specified that just like Derson and Mrs. Worma

are working on the Mammoot case with Tony DeMarco in accordance with Dr. BZ and CSBA updates, the exact same thing will happen with this. That's the motion in the second. Len, would you mind calling role? We can comment. Where is? Yes. Anderson, yes. Barham, absolutely not. Schwarz, no. Kamaroski, yes. Student board member, no. Motion adopted 3 to two. All right. On to

14 second reading. Uh we have second we have quite a lot here. So we have 14 comments. Um are there any comments on a take them one at a time? Well, I can get board consensus. We can hear all how many? 14. We could do all 14 comments at two minutes and then and then power through these. Do you want

to do all board comments at or uh public comments at once? Yeah, we'll do all for uh all 14. I say two. What's the board say? Well, Dr. Anderson says one. I say two. Two. Two. So, we have consensus two minutes a piece. We'll hear all 14. Was that right? Okay. We'll hear all 14. Then we'll power through these items. Okay.

First up is Edgar Diaz, followed by Jenny Sharf and excuse me, please specify each speaker exactly what item you're speaking to. That will help us. Thank you. I think it is F, which is visitations on campuses. Thank you. Is that right? Yep. correct. Yeah. All right. That they're going to be according to that uh as a representative for

Tmacula Valley Educator Association when there are changes made to bylaws that where the board can use it for as the quotes would mention I think were beis Mrs. Worisma's changes the site visits could be used for oversight and evaluation. Uh Tmacula Valley Educator Association and California service ed service employees I forgot what the acronym for CSA is. uh they have the

exclusive bargaining rights for processes for discipline, due process and evaluations. So I would make sure that you steer clear of making sure that you are not infringing on the bargaining components of our associations to make sure that the evaluations and discipline and due process for our employees are not infringed. Uh which is why I think the the recommendations are for board

visitations to be in observance to make sure how programs are being implemented within the school. I would like to echo the feelings that have been mentioned before to trust your educators. There's another change on there that these visits I believe also a change for Mrs. Wisma. These visits could parlay into decision-m on a particular item. Uh I know there was other comments on

there that said that things could be rigid but this also makes it very open on how they can be influential in any kind of a item or decision on evaluation discipline uh or due process. uh we want to make sure that while you are out here in the board like I mentioned before those sped programs that were mentioned before actually the

the uh not necessarily sped but the making sure you get the oversight of the whole program what that looks like how that's implemented on the ground you'll be able to get a good assessment of what that looks like as you're visiting sites uh and again trust your educators uh board member can engage by striking the engaging in complaints and

personnel matters or operational issues does that opened the door so that a board member can then investigate complaints and follow up on personnel matters. The only employee is the superintendent Jenny Shar followed by Caroline Hoffman. All right, I'm speaking on 14F as well. So, it's pretty obvious that some of you guys have no idea what your job description is. According

to the Oracle note known as Google, it is this dash uh to set the district's vision, goals, and policies, approve the budget, and hire and evaluate the superintendent, acting collectively as a board to ensure students success. H, and advocate for public education. Notice there's nothing in there about oversight of school displays or evaluating educators. The only employee you are able to evaluate is Dr.

Vez. Overreach like this will activate unfair labor practice charges through PERB as evaluations and due process are negotiating negotiated through labor partners such as TVA and CSEA. Hasn't your incompetence and ill cost this district enough money and embarrassment already? How about you spend your time figuring out where to get the $3 million per year you directed the district to save

from somewhere other than the backs of teachers who you keep purporting to support? Why don't you spend your time making sure we have well equipped and safe classrooms and properly trained staff? Jen, you should probably just stay in your lane. Next up is Caroline followed by Upnate with 12 subsections in this section. I didn't prepare comments for each one. I I'm doing my

speech. I'm telling you what I'm talking on. Under what comment? If you let me do my I would like to reclaim my time. If you let me say my speech, I didn't want you to start until you gave me the specific. It'll be clear if you let me talk. With 12 subsections in this section, I didn't prepare comments for each one. Frankly,

I assume the goal tonight isn't to encourage broad public discussion, but to move quickly through these changes. However, under code of ethics, I did want to highlight one important point. It states that board members are responsible for representing all constituents, not just the ones who voted for them. Joe, that's something worth remembering. I've never heard you publicly

apologize to the students after saying you don't answer to them, you answer to their parents. Students are part of this district community, too, and they deserve to be treated that way. More broadly, much of this section reads as though it's focused on limiting student voices. Students do have first amendment rights, and those rights don't disappear when they walk

into a school campus. It's concerning to see policies that appear to designed to curb those voices rather than respect them. That's also why it's frustrating just to see a proposal giving board members a speaking platform at graduation. Board members rotate every few years, some even sooner. They aren't the ones building relationship with students throughout the year. They aren't the

ones teaching them, mentoring them, or interacting daily with the graduating class. Graduation should center the students and the educators who have actually been part of their journey. It's one thing to talk when other people are talking, but you do it when we're up here. This is my two minutes. Graduation should center the students and the educators who have actually been part

of their journey. It shouldn't become a stage for board members. I realize this proposal will probably pass, but I would urge you to think carefully about whether inserting yourselves in that moment truly serves the students or simply serves the board. and I will happily pass out water when they protest your involvement. Followed by Jennifer San Nicholas. Before the

next speaker speaks, before we start the time, clearly state the exact item you're speaking on. You'll be speaking on one item unless you filled out a sheet to specifically speak on two items, which the last speaker did. But please, Ubi, tell us what item you're speaking on. I am speaking on items 14 F and D and they're filled

out on the sheet both of them. Yep. So two minutes times two minutes. Are she speaking twice in a row? I'm going to try to finish it. I'm going to try to finish it. Yeah. Within the two minutes. Yeah. So first is my general like this confusion right now. You have 12 completely unrelated policies together with endless edits and potential

amendments. At minimum I think these should have been put into two groups. four of them which are for legal compliance should have been separated from the ones that are your own personal I don't know whatever so I did submit written comments for uh a different set of items I highly recommend please read them they will help you out understanding and then actually adopting

new policies for the professional standards uh for uh item 14F I have sat through a per hearing for unfair practice charges against prior board decisions affecting certificated staff. And I can say very confidently, I am not a lawyer, but the language being proposed by Mrs. Versma is very, very problematic. She showed up at my daughter's school and had them take down a band book display,

a task that is not her responsibility. The only employee you are responsible for evaluating is the superintendent. It is not your job to resolve personnel complaints. Your role is to approve disciplinary dismissal or hiring decisions as recommended by the district staff. And I did a quick search. You you keep claiming to do all this hard work before proposing. Article 13.8 of the

bargaining agreement is very clear. The principal or the administrative design is responsible for evaluation of all school-based employees. Please read what exists before proposing these things. We've gone through enough prob complaints, unfair labor practice charges is just to put sentences in here and there. Please don't do it. The next item I'm speaking on is 14D graduation ceremonies.

Graduations are by the students and for the students. Parents attend these to celebrate their children. The student speaker update, I understand it comes from a legitimate concern and respecting tradition. This was an actual issue that is being solved. I'm going to take my next two minutes. For the second item, you only filled out a card. It's one item. It's

two minutes. I said I'm going to try to fit it in two minutes. Your time. You're done with your time. Thank you. We're on to the next speaker. I filled out for two items. Do you want me to come back? Can I ask a question? We have one action item under 14 labeled A, B, C, and D. So, it's two minutes for action item 14,

not two minutes for each. That is correct. Uh, we'll take that. You're clarifying it right now. No, this after I started speaking. We'll take the next speaker. That's That's the practice that I did all last year. I would lump things AB, C, and D. And I You just asked me before starting for two minutes. I'm going to finish

in 30 seconds. If you'd let I'll have security remove you from the podium unless you leave. You've been asked twice nicely. You do not run the meeting. Please leave the podium. Your time is yielded. That is the second warning and that is specifically to Mrs. Maxi. This is the second objective warning. You are disturbing the board. Such a child. Next up is Jennifer San Nicholas,

followed by Jamie S. Brian, will you please have a word with Mrs. Maxi, please? Or the or the next designate. If we have to have her, we'll have her remove it from the meeting. You're not following proper decorum. Neither are you. All right, that's the third objective warning. Please remove her from the meeting. Please remove her from the meeting. You've disturbed the

meeting from objectively happening more than once. Removed. Follow proper decorum. We can stay in the room. All right. Uh, we can start the next speaker's time. Thank you so much. Sorry, Jennifer. Stand. Okay. Hi. Hi. I was doing 14 as a whole. Um, I'll start with 14. I'm sorry. Let me check. Uh 14D first. Um I just wanted to mention

graduation and with all due respect, no one wants you guys to speak and it's not anything personal when I say this. Um it's long, it's hot, and they just want to get it done and get it over with. Even two or three minutes, it's just, you know, when you've got that many kids trying to go through, they don't even want to hear their

principles or their validictorian speak. They they just want to get it done. Um, so for the kids, that could be their graduation present to them. Please don't. As for the rest of this, um, I'm not going to go into each individual policy because I can say the same thing about most of these, and I just think a lot of them

are ridiculous, petty, and vengeful. Last night, the message was kids first always, but most of this policy revision is narcissism and petty grievances wrapped up in abuse of power that in no way shapes positive outcomes for students. How does any of this get our staff a contract? How does this support unduplicated populations and raise test scores? How does this improve

the sped environment? You are public servants, not deities for us to serve. Please do the job or get off the deis. Next up is Jamie followed by Jennifer Canalano. First off, I want to thank all the board members for all your help and all the work that you do, as well as all the cabinet members. I'm here

tonight to respectfully ask the board reconsider having board member speeches during graduation ceremony. Graduation is one of the most meaningful moments in a student's life. It represents years of hard work, growth, perseverance, and not only for the students, but also for the families who supported them every step of the way. For many parents and guardians, this ceremony

is the culmination of years of early mornings, late nights, and countless sacrifices. Because of that, graduation should focus as much as possible on the voices and achievements of the students themselves. When additional speeches are added to the program, even with the best intentions, it can reduce the time available for student speakers, musical performances, and other studentled moments. These are the opportunities that

students have worked hard to earn and prepare for, and they are often the most memorable parts of the ceremony. If two board members decide to go and speak, that's six minutes. That's another student that might not get to speak at the ceremony. Student performances, speeches, and recognitions allow graduates to celebrate one another and share their experiences in their own voices. Those moments

reflect the spirit, creativity, and identity of the graduating class in a way that no one else can replicate. Board members already play an essential role in supporting students throughout the entire educational journey. Graduation is a moment when the spotlight should shift fully onto the students and the families who help them reach that stage. Respectfully, stepping back from speaking at

the ceremony would send a powerful message that this day truly belongs to the graduates. Thank you for your time and consideration. Next up is Jennifer Catalano, followed by Lindsay. Um, I'm speaking tonight on F. Um, I just want to say that schoolboard members, you guys all play an important role in governance. Um, you set policy, you approve budgets, and you

ensure the accountability for the district. However, you are not evaluators. they you are not trained to evaluate teachers, administrators or classroom instruction. Teacher evaluation is a professional process that requires specific training and established frameworks to ensure fairness and consistency. Allowing site visits to be used for oversight or evaluation blurs the line between governance and management. When board members enter classrooms in a way that

could influence evaluation or decision-making, it creates uncertainty for educators and undermines the professional systems that are already in place. Strong distance strong dis districts, excuse me, function best when they are clearly defined. Boards should govern, superintendent manage, administrators evaluate, and teachers teach. Let us teach. Next up is Lindsay followed by Jane Femia. So we have 12 action items

before us tonight focused on reforming board policies, ethics expectations, and codes of conduct for how trustees interact with students in the community. These policies are meant to define appropriate boundaries and set the standard for how this board conducts itself. And I do have to say the fact that we have 12 separate policy changes up for adoption tonight is remarkable. It raises a fair question

about priorities. At some point, if you, Jen, Joe, and Melinda enjoy drafting and revising policy this much, perhaps Congress would be a better fit because a school board's primary responsibility is not producing endless layers of governance language. Our responsibility is putting meaningful items on the agenda that actually impact students programs and outcomes in this district. Throughout these discussions, we've repeatedly heard concerns

that trustees interacting with students could create ethical concerns, potential influence, or boundary issues. In some cases, we're even hearing that parental consent alone may not be sufficient. If that is the principle guiding these proposals, then it deserves serious consideration. But it also requires consistency because at the same time we are discussing policies that would restrict trustees from interacting with students

even with parental consent. We are seeing public praise for political activists like Jessica Tapia who has openly stated that she intends to meet with RVUSD students from a school club at a private undisclosed location regardless of district guidance. And that behavior has been publicly praised by Jen Wearsma and Joseph Kamaskki. the very people raising concerns about trustees interacting with students. So the

question becomes clear, what is the real concern here? If adult interaction with students creates ethical risk, then that standard should apply to everyone, not just the people who disagree with. I believe in student voice, freedom of speech, and the role of parents in deciding what is appropriate for for their children. But if we are going to add policies tonight,

those policies must apply equally. And if this board is serious about ethics, then the rules we passed tonight should apply to everyone equally. Otherwise, we shouldn't call them ethics at all. Jean Femia. So before I begin, um I can only have two minutes total because I I put in five comment requests. If you put in five sheets, that's two minutes

a sheet. You were entitled to speak five times because you filled out five sheets, individual sheets. Okay. Right. Is that I'm I'm I'm trying to figure out what she's No, that's not how we did it last year. Oh, excuse me. Dr. Dr. Kamaskki. Give me Give me a second. One second. Dr. Anderson, he can only he decides if it's point of order or not.

To be consistent with one of the other speakers, you have one action item. You have two minutes to speak on any any one of them you want. Please keep your comments down. So, Miss Femia, you may speak. On the ethics item, the blue highlighted sections go into details that seem far beyond the law's provisions. I'm referring to SB848. Typically,

district receives suggested adjustments from CSBA, and I would suggest that some of these some of these suggestions may be fine, but they didn't if they didn't come from CSBA, I'd like to wait and hear what CSBA has to say on parliamentary procedures. I believe for discussion among board members, two minutes is the minimum needed to make your point and you should be allowed two, not

just one times to speak on an agenda item. The community wants to hear trustees discuss agenda items before they vote. On item graduation, I am strongly opposed to adding the possibility of a board member speaking at graduation or promotion. Graduation is for celebrating students, not board members. Thank you. on the visit to schools items. I know you're trying to streamline things by

putting everything's com everyone's comments in the same document, but this thing is a mess. There are several additions in pink that duplicate text what's already there. There I have several other things that I would like to say about this, but there's not enough time. You've all given Len a lot of work for no reason. All of this is unnecessary. Perhaps you've heard

the expression rearranging rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic. Please stop rearranging words and start facing the icebergs. And finally, regarding the board committee's item, the additions in pink are unnecessary. They're covered by student board members um bylaw 9150. I've been extremely disappointed to see how some of you have treated our student board member. The dismissive attitude you've

shown is an embarrassment to our community. You consistently pass over her right to vote. You discourage her joining in discussions and ignore her comments. You really don't appear to want her here. It's embarrassing. Thank you. I have one public comment card remaining that does not have a name. Is that you, Sarah? Is it turquoise? Yes, it is. I wrote my name on the

first one. Um, I'm talking on action item D. And um I do have something a little bit different to say, but I just want to address the proposal to change board policy to allow board members to speak at graduation ceremonies. Let's start by repeating the district's message from last night. Students first always. If a board member has a genuine relationship with the

school and they are invited to speak, speak. Nothing prevents that from happening. You guys are welcome. At the last meeting that this was at the last meeting that you brought this up, Mrs. Dis explained and I don't want to misquote her but she said it's planned down to the second and then she said they prioritize students. So this raises

an important question. Why are you considering inserting yourself into ceremonies when staff has already explained that the focus should remain on the students? We beg you to respect the teachers. Respect your cabinet staff here. They made it super clear. Graduation should be about the students who earn that moment. It's not about creating speaking opportunities for elected officials. That is not what it's for.

And nothing is stopping an admin or a principal from inviting you. There's no board policy that keeps you from going if you're invited. You do serve an important governance role and I thank you for your service as trustees, but these ceremonies are not about board members. They are about celebrating students and staff. If you want to serve parents and students that

elected you, let the spotlight remain on students. Look at how when our student board member comments speak, how much everyone is so happy to hear what Melissa has to say. That's what we want at graduations. It's about the students. Need a moment, please. Thank you. Be back in two minutes. We'll have a two-minute recess. That's done. All

right. She uses the That one I can see. It was my second job. The systems that I run. Okay, I'm going to call us back to order. I apologize for the confusion. We have a couple individuals that have filled out multiple sheets. We will honor them as we go per action item. So as we get per action item,

there's only two I believe Len that have done this. Two people total. So what we'll do is we'll start on code of ethics. I'm going to try to get the whole board through each one of these action items that if there's multiple contributions, we so before we do code of ethics specifically, Mrs. Femia, did she speak on ethics for the first

two minutes of the one or did she say that in She spoke on all of them, but how many uh she filled out five total cards and each one? Can you read out publicly what exactly they said? Yeah, she wanted to speak on 14 A, 14 B, 14 D, 14 G, 14 F. Yes. And 14F. That's it.

So she spoke broadly two minutes on all uh I don't have total recollection here if she spoke she had five she had five uh sheets turned in total but she spoke two minutes so she used two minutes time with all five but I want to honor the other four individual when we get to the action items so so I guess maybe ask Mrs.

FEMIA to focus your time on four selected items and let us know what you want to speak on when we get to it. The first one is code of ethics. I'm I'm sorry. Would you say that again? You filled out five sheets. You've already spoken once on for two minutes. Can you please choose four items specifically to choose on,

but not all of them right now once we get to them. So, in chronological order A through L, please tell us which ones you want to speak on. And then when we get to the item, we're going to hear you. Um, okay. I'll start with a I'll speak on a code of ethics. A, B, F, and G. A, B, F, and G. Yeah.

Thank you. Okay. And then oop. We will be doing oop as well. You filled out one additional to the one she spoke on. She just has one thing, but she listed two items, F and D. Okay. So, we'll honor the two minutes and F and D primarily. What you speak on the first round? I believe it was um

graduation. So, now she wants to speak on her to focus on item. Okay. So, FEMA right now, Mrs. FEMA and we'll have her speak on a on two minutes. Okay. Again, apologize for the confusion. Okay. Team FEMA, thank you. Um, okay. On the ethics policy, I appreciate you're updating this policy with attorney's suggestions. I note that item four states, quote, "Each board member

must be aware of and comply with both the United States and California Constitutions, federal law, the California Education Code, and all other applicable laws of the state of California, and the established policies of the district. That covers a lot of territory right there. I'm wondering about the blue highlighted sections which site SB848. That law goes into effect

this year and next. It it extends existing law regarding child abuse, sex offenses, reporting requirements, and prevention education to charter schools and private schools as well as public schools. It also states that all employees, volunteers, and governing board members are mandatory reporters of any abuse, and it requires that all of them receive mandatory training. It also establishes

a statewide database of reports. However, the blue highlighted sections go into details that seem far beyond the laws provisions. Typically, the district receives suggestions um to adjust policies from CSBA to comply with new or updated laws. Some of these highlighted sections may be just fine, but if they did not come from CSBA, I would suggest we wait until we

receive their advice. Thank you. Thank you. Okay, so I'm going to ask we're going to go one by one. If we get consensus to vote in, that'll just be lumped up into the motion and the second. If there's debate on this and we don't get majority consensus, we'll just vote on the individual one right then and there. So, the first

one is red and blue. This is consensus to add it to the motion in the second. The red and the blue attorney reviewed and I'm going to go through four of these. I would I would vote in the red and the blue attorney. I'll vote in the red and the blue attorney reviewed language. Do we have at least two other board members that are fine

with that for this to go to a motion in a second? The red and the blue is attorney reviewed. I'm fine with this language. Red and blue. Red and blue. Hold on. And if we have to I mean here here's the thing. We I'm fine with red and blue. We have three minutes for the presenter and then two minutes first round,

two minutes second round. I would love us to just get through these items and just power through because at the end of the day, our votes matter on this. Um so yes, you have So we have Dr. Anderson with the red and blue. Can we can we clarify attorneyship? I'm already confused. So, sorry. Just let's start with just the red and the blue are

attorney reviewed. Okay. It's not CSVA. The red and the blue are attorney highlighted. Okay. Dr. Kamaroski, can I can I Mr. Can I I'm confused. I want to make a suggestion. Go ahead. Because it's I think you should just give us two minutes each. Okay. and we can say what we like and we can say what we don't and then let's go to

vote. That's it. I mean to go through each thing I think is really hard. I think just go in voting order. Give us two minutes one time, not twice. One time. The rules of debate apply here though. We go two. I mean I'm only going to say I'm only going one time on all of these. I'm not going twice. Um I'm fine with that as well.

Okay. Okay. So then because it's just too hard to go. Can we do one minute? Hold on. Hold on. I'm I'm I'm dialoguing with Mr. Baram. Yeah. It's too hard. I don't mind this idea. Len has a grid that Dr. Anderson provided. So be very clear and concise with her. She's literally keeping track. It's very hard. It's either we like we

can we can comment what we like about this, what we don't like, and let's go to vote. I mean, we're going to be here all night if we do it this way. Right. So, I'm just saying be concise and pointed to Len. She's keeping track. So, um, with that being said, go in voting order with Jen. Just go in. I don't mind. I don't mind going

in voting order. Just say yes, no on each of the red, blue, orange, and CSBA recommended. Len is actually got a grid to keep track of all this. We've actually thought through this whole thing, but we are going to take a doctor. We are literally going to take a vote on this. We're going to take a vote on each one. Okay. Good.

All right. Perfect. I'm good. Let's go. Do you know? So, Mrs. Worsma, two minutes to present. Yay or nay on the red, the blue, the orange, and CSVA. If we need specificity, red and blue are attorney. Blue highlighted is mine. Orange is Mr. Schwarz. CSVA recommended. Is is that teal? I don't know. It's a little late here. Okay.

Okay, I can go real quick, Dr. Anderson. So, I approve all of the red and blue, all of Dr. Kamaroski's and all of the CSBA. The only thing that I think that Steve pointed out was that we should strike number six because it's in conflict with um visitation policy. So if you scroll down a little bit, it says promote and participate

actively in the and it says that we should have um engage with students. We need to strike that number six like Steve mentioned. So that was the one of his that I agreed. So this whole policy I'm good with and then just strike number six where Steve said this is in conflict with visitation policies. Did you get that

one? Okay. So that's yes on everything except only Steve's strike number six. Just as a point of clarity, when you strike, it was not. It was the original language. Lenny has it pulled up on your screen. Can you highlight the full number six right there because we don't want we don't want people engaging with students. uh that that point of clarity. We don't want

people engaging with students. Quite frankly, all the board members engage with them when we visit sites. So, that's a point of contention. No, this isn't sites. This isn't this is this is in conflict with visitation policy, which it the visitation policy does say some specifics about how we engage students. Her time is up. Who's Okay. So, she that's fine. Wants to strike

six. Approves her. Mrs. Weman, that's it. So, most of the red and blue I am fine with. Um, in terms of what Mr. Schwarz brought up with potential First Amendment concerns, I feel like that particular paragraph is a little blurred. Board members shall not direct, encourage, solicit, or organize, or facilitate student participation. I think that is correct.

I think the idea of encouragement, I feel like it's a little heavy-handed, but if we're talking specifically about student visits or uh campus visits, sorry, then that makes sense. Um, I think that is it. So, you good as is? I'm good as is. Um, I think when we get to the next policy and talking about professional boundaries and so forth,

it's really important to offer an exhibit and talk about what a judge has said in really believing that this is the appropriate thing to do in drawing boundaries and guidelines, but I know we have another one down the road. So, um, I can save that. And just as a point of clarity, CSVA reviewed this and said it was robust and commendable.

That was out without Mr. Schwarz's language at all on there. Okay. Just to let you know. So, we'll go to Mr. uh we'll go to Mr. Barum. Okay. So, on Sunday, I spoke to the head honcho of district 18A of CSBA. I have never spoken to CSBA. Um, and I asked him about the CSBA consultant. He said the CSBA consultant was a person who just

grammatically corrects policy that there's no legal or lawful uh foundation behind any of these if it's the CSBA consultant. So when you say robust blah blah blah, he's saying no. He basically said, "This code of ethics is replete with civil rights violations and constitutional infringements." And for that reason, I will be voting no. Mr. Schwarz. Yes. Uh, in preparation

for commenting on these policies, I requested permission uh to speak to our general counsel, I made four requests, which were all denied by the board president. And if you want to see them, you could foyer the emails that went back and forth between the board president and me. I followed the regulations for asking for permission and I was denied four times. Our

general counsel represents the board as a whole, not any individual board member. Denying trustees reasonable access to legal advice prevents us from fully Mr. Schwarz, will you stay on topic? We're on the code of ethics. I am. You're talking about attorneys. That's a separate item. No, no. I'm talk Excuse me. Please don't interrupt me. That's so rude. I'll wait. Can I get my

point? There is a point of order and I am leading this meeting. Please tell me how you are wrapping this into code of ethics when that is a separate policy that we're voting on. This policy actually I'm talking on the policy. This policy this policy has many flaws in it which I believe are unconstitutional or illegal. I I will

definitely not vote for the red and blue that come uh the uh ones that come from DeMarco and Dedricch since their opinions on certain issues are their personal opinions, not legal opinions. And I will vote no on this policy. That's what I have to say. Okay. So I would vote to approve red and blue attorney reviewed the blue highlighted

under mine NCSBA recommended but to strike everything that Schwarz has highlighted. I call for a second. I've made a motion. My motion is to approve the red and the blue attorney reviewed the blue highlighted by myself and CSBA recommended striking Mr. Schwarz's language. Do I have a second? I will second. Seconded by Mrs. Worsma. Do we have any other discussion?

Was it was this was your language reviewed by attorneys? One second. We're getting clarity on the blue highlights by myself being reviewed by DeMarco and we'll have clarity before we take it to vote. We have a motion and a second so far. Okay, we'll take a motion. Sorry, we already have a motion, a second. Will Len, would you mind calling role?

Where's mma? Yes, Anderson. I'm getting it. Do you want Can you go on to the next one while I get this one? Sure. Um, we're trying to get clarity on the legal review of my blue highlighted language. Dr. Veles and myself, we think it was absolutely reviewed by Demarco. So, uh, I my vote is yes because we can always amend

it if it's not legally. So, okay. So, we have two votes. Yes. No. No. Schwarz. No. U Kamaroski. Yes. Student board member. I'll refrain. Thank. Motion adopted 3 to2. Thank you, Len. Moving on to parliamentary procedures. Do we have any public comments on this one? Yes, Jean Femia. Okay, Jean. Miss Femia, welcome up again. A couple of people were telling me, "How come

you don't speak at board meetings anymore?" So, I thought I would. Um, I will be very quick with my comment here. On several occasions, I've had to reduce a threeminut comment to two minutes. And so I'm well aware of what can and cannot be said in two minutes. I believe for discussion among board members, two minutes is the minimum that is needed

to make your point and you should be allowed two times, not just one, to speak on any item without having to appeal to the majority of the board. The community does want to hear trustees discuss items on the agenda before they vote. And if you reduce discussion to one one minute statement, you essentially squash discussion. So please

do not change the existing bylaw. Thank you. Thank you. And we have a second speaker. Okay. I brought this forward. U so for me it's pretty simple. Um I'm not going to speak double rounds unless somebody wants to question. for me um I have seen for many board meetings where there's there's questions there's you know clarifying with the superintendent with

um assistant superintendent and I feel like there's a performative measure where some board members literally just want to talk and quite honestly we just need to get to the votes and move on and that's why there's flexibility for consensus to extend time and to extend another speaking component to it. I think is flexible. But let me give you kind of like a a reality

check. I was talking with another school board president in our neighboring school district of Myrietta Unified. And my time's not running down. Len, would you please start? I'm not going to use all two minutes. And this board member said that behind the scenes, you know, staff, they watch our meetings and they said, you know, thank God we're

not Tmacula. And I and because our meetings go on repeatedly till 10, 11, midnight at night, they do not need to go this long. And I said, well, how how long was your last board meeting? He said, 1 hour. Um, city, they just held a board meeting less than one hour, like a couple times in a row

or or or about that time. And here we are. Last board meeting, to be clear, started at three. Sorry, it it's so foggy the last meeting versus the one before that. We're talking a nine hour meeting. Some people say, "No, no, it started at six and it went this long, almost to midnight." No, no, we actually started at four or three,

you know, as a board member. So, as a governing board, so I say that the language stands um one two-minut speech. If you agendaize this item and you want two minutes to present, that's fine. But I think there's flexibility with this. So I yield my time and I'll uh ask Mrs. Worma. I vote for two minutes. I think one minute is too

short to get in full thoughts and perspective, but I'm good with that happening one time unless the board decides we need the extra time. So you flexibility is good. Yes. I just think the one minute is too quick. Right. And as a point of clarity, it's it's not one minute. It's um Hold on. Each board member who is

recognized by the presiding officer of the president to speak on an open session item agenda should be limited to one per Oh, yeah. I think I think there was a typo. I think it's 2 minutes to present and then a one-time twominut round with no second round of two minutes. So we give the presenter a fair chance of two minutes to present.

So with that that's that's the edited. Yeah. Um on the very one um speaking time it says items so shall be limited to one one minute per speech. Oh yeah speech, right? Yeah. It'd be two minutes if you agendaized it and and you want to present and then one round for the whole board. Just two minutes one time.

and we can edit the language in there as such. All the other stuff remains if we if we get um consensus. But that's my motion and we'll see if we get a second. My motion is to agendaize this language and specifically everything there except for that typo. When you present, you get two rounds or two minutes to present. Then

the whole board gets two minutes and that is it. There is no second round unless by consensus we uh grant a longer time or an additional round. Do I have a second? Okay. So, you want two minutes for a presenter. Okay. And then one round of two minutes. Can I comment then? Yeah, you're you're next. And well, I'm asking for I'm asking to see

if we get a second. So, we have I I a second. Okay. We have a second on the table. And it's Dr. Anderson's time. Okay. So, or excuse me, it's uh Mrs. Worma. Oh, you already went. Okay. Dr. Anderson. Yep. So I am good with I wrote this because the first two meetings we had one board member that actually I think spoke 14 to

17 minutes on some just for their one time. Um and that was too long. So this is just a way that we can get through our meetings. I'm good with Dr. Karoski's but I would like to cut um president's comments to two minutes at the beginning. Would you if I would you be willing to cut your comments

to two minutes instead of three just at the very beginning of the meeting? Totally. Okay. So, we have a motion and a second now for two minutes to present. Two minutes for each board member. No second round. Two minutes for president comments. And with the language um that's good. and and with um consensus. We also have and this

is clear. We were doing this tonight too. If a board member asks, this is under speaking time for explanation. If a board member asks a superintendent a clarifying question or if the superintendent permits an assistant superintendent to respond to a clarifying question, the time used for that response will be included within the board members's allotted speaking time, which is

just one round of two minutes, unless you're the presenter. The reason for this and the reasons for me doing this as a board president is just to try to expedite the meeting so that all board members can get through this. That's Robert's rules by the way. Yeah. Okay. So, we have a motion, a second now. It's under Mr. Barham. Yeah. You

have two minutes and then a second round of two minutes because we haven't voted. We haven't taken action on this. So, clarifying question. So, if Mrs. Where's my for example is making her two-minute presentation and she needs she says at the end of her two minutes I need an extra two minutes and the majority consensus grants her the extra two minutes is the extra two minutes

granted to the rest of the board or just to her if she's the presenter just to her no she's she's in her debate time so she's in her debate time and she's going for her one time two-minute round. Okay. So, if she doesn't finish and she says, "I need an extra two minutes." And and by majority consensus, it's granted,

is that extra two minutes granted to the rest of us? I think it would be fair to say yes. Yeah. I think by consensus I think by consensus if one person says can I be granted extra time it it quite honestly it could be that the board says is all finishes it could be the board says yeah

to all of us but nobody uses the time and then that board me that's usually what's happened so I would just say to be fair I would say that is included that if one board member is granted all of us are granted that extra time. All right. If one board member is granted an additional speaking time outside the two minutes and a second

round, all of us are. Okay. But chances are that's not going to happen. So we can embed that mo uh language into the motion. Len okay. I mean there's nothing that I can do to stop this. But I really do feel that this disenfranchises disenfranchises our voters and doesn't give us enough time to debate issues. Um, but I'm going to stop there

because I know I'm going to I'm going to quote Mrs. Barklay. I know how this is going to go down. Mr. Schwarz. Yeah. This is one of the reasons why our meetings go on forever. Things like this. So, uh, this is just another, uh, another way of disenfranchising the minority of the board since everything is up to the majority. So, I'm

going to quote Mrs. Barklay and say I know how this is going to go round for Mrs. Wearsma and I'll have some additional comments to that too, but I'll let you go first and we're on our second round. The the only thing I would add is that when there's a legitimate issue to discuss something, we will allow for time. We need to do that for

certain topics. So I think that this can work and if it needs to be re-evaluated, we can go there. But two minutes, as even Jean Beia pointed out, it should be a good amount of time unless we all decide we need more. We can change our mind. Dr. Anderson. No, I was just saying I'm willing to give it a shot. If it doesn't work, then we

can change our mind. But let's try to get through these meetings more quickly. So, I'm willing to give it a shot, Mr. Marorrow. And I think Mrs. Fee has said two minutes twice around, not once, if I'm not mistaken. Um, is that correct? Yeah, she's saying yes. And I want to comment on the Myrietta board. The Myrietta board. The reason I watch

them, those meetings last two to three hours. They don't last one, but they're shorter than ours. Why do they last two to three hours? Because they don't have all this crap on the agenda every single time. They have none of this stuff on their agenda. Not even close. It's educationally related. And they get it done. And they're they

have a small consent calendar, nothing like ours. Okay? In two to three hours they are finished. But that is the reason because they don't have all of this garbage on the agenda. Everything on their agenda is educationally focused. That's it. Mr. Schwarz. All right. What I'll say is what this does is this uh there's something that also could

be happening and I'll commend Dr. Anderson for how she agendaized the Supreme Court decision with all that language and the rationale. What it does is it helps moral deliberation and then I will push back because over a year ago you in fact Mr. Barum and Mr. Schwarz and even Dr. Anderson stated that you wanted everybody to show up to the board prepared

with all your questions answered. That has not been happening for I don't know how many meetings. And you can actually thank yourself for the amount of items you try to agendaize every meeting. It's insanity. You are an elected official, right? But this is just a majority of the board. This is not my decision. I am trying to expedite the meeting. So when you say that,

I can't help but laugh because you are a main contributor to the very problem that we're trying to mitigate. Yeah. Oh. So we can just we can just we can just we can we can just go back in time Emil and we can count them out. But it's nice that you're talking over I think we have a majority. Can we You know what's funny? We we

can but it's funny because two board members are talking over me. They don't like accountability. Len, would you mind calling ro please? Where's Anderson? Yes. Barham. No. Schwarz. No. Kamoski. Yes. Student board member. No. Motion adopted three to two. Thank you. So, we are moving on to second one. Revise uh agenda meeting materials. Len, would you mind pulling this up?

This is very simple. Shouldn't take that long. Um I've added one line in here highlighted to provoke balance agendas. Each individual board member that probably typo there. Each individual board member may submit up to two items for placement on a singular regular meeting agenda. Additional requests may be scheduled for subsequent meetings. That is um I move for this. Do I have a

second before we have discussion? Yeah, we can we can have discussion. Yeah. Second. This is my presentation. We have a motion and a second. I just want to add that last and I will I will say again this is to mitigate the meetings going till 11 and 12 at night. It requires us to think if I could pick two really important items

these are what they are and that would include action andor uh information and reports two items maximum per board member. Okay, these are I just am passing down I wanted to add something but I typed it out so it wouldn't confuse board members and then Len will pull it up. We can't hear you. I just wrote down an amendment that I'm going

to state in just a minute but some people are confused when I just say it and so if it's written and they can read it. I wrote it down. Let's let's give me a minute. My time's running. Any additional items beyond this limit may be placed on the agenda at the discretion of the superintendent board president. Yeah,

but that's that's what I'm trying to steer away from. I'm trying to create I'm trying to get that what you're saying, Dr. Anderson, that bold language. That is what it is now pretty much. And so I'm trying to mitigate that by saying you got two items maximum. Imagine if one board member was agendaizing six items per board meeting or five

or four. It's just I trust you to say no. Like I trust that you say no. You can't you can't do that. No, you cannot do that for a board bylaw. You have to actually uh make it pretty clear with the boundaries. Otherwise, if all if all five of us agendaize five items, then guess what? All the pressures on the board president and Dr.

And this is what's been happening for the last I don't know how many months. That's what I'm trying to stop. Maximum of two. Who put these on? Not me. Absolutely. It's legal. We as a board decide our own bylaw. Jen goes first. All right. I yield my time. Jen, I have a motion. I don't have a second yet. It's to adopt my language.

I think two is reasonable unless something's returning for a second read has been discussed prior and is just coming in for that final look. Other than that, I think two is good. Do you second the motion? I will second. All right, we have a motion to second. Dr. Anderson, it'll force me not to put stuff on the agenda.

So, good. I I'll support it. Okay, Mr. borrow at the end of the meeting unofficially if we want to say hey I'm considering something for the future that's up for the board member to state to the public but we are elected by the members of this um community and if we want to agendaize something we should have full

freedom to do it and if we agendaize something done guess what we're going to know about it from the community and fellow board members everyone should have that right I do not agree with consensus now if it's working with district staff. Maybe a board member prudently says, "Hey, I'd like to work with somebody on this longer project. You guys mind and get consensus?" That

might be good. But that's that shouldn't be a general rule, even though I did that. So, I agree with the future agenda items. Uh I think we should be able to agendaize whenever we want if it's within a 7-day window. Okay? And we're elected to do that very thing. Okay? Otherwise, it's just an extra layer of bureaucracy that's

unneeded. Mr. Just a a quick So the question is, so the Excuse me. Excuse me, folks. The That was you on September 30th. What happened to you? What happened to What happened to that guy? Excuse me. It's my time. Were you asking a question? No. No. I'm going to answer it for you. Okay. You want to disenfranchise our constituents and our voters by

limiting this time? Okay. because this is this is when it's convenient for you. That's what this is all about. You don't care about this community and nobody has agendaized five and six things in the past months. I I've agendaized none of this is mine. I agendaized three things for this meeting and you took away two of them which

you shouldn't have done. Okay. So, you know, I'm going by what you said that as elected officials, we should be able to agendaize what we want. So, now you're changing the rules. So, that's it. I just want to show the hypocrisy to the community. Mr. Schwarz. Yeah. Uh, I put one thing on the agenda which I removed. So,

I don't know who put all this stuff on here, but it wasn't me. Somebody put all this stuff on here, all these policies. It wasn't me. Wasn't me. Somebody put all these policies on there, and you're trying to make it like we're the ones who were clogging the agenda. Seriously, give me a break. All right. Vote no when it

comes around. Just so you know. No. Yeah. It's It's mine. Uh it's my uh what is it? I presented I think it's first round, but I'm not going to go a second. Yeah. So, um and I I'm not asking you a question, Mr. Barum. So, please don't interject in my time. But if you play that again, you'll

say, "Yeah, agenda is whatever you want." You're right twice because I don't want to be here till 11 or 12:00 at night. This can come back in the future if I get the votes tonight. It's not just me. It's the majority of the board. What does the majority of the board want? I think the majority of the board wants to not be here to 10, 11, 12

o'clock at night. It's burning out staff. There's a lot that goes on here that's performative and this is an attempt to mitigate that. I yield my time. And now that is the first round. I'm I'm not going to speak to a second round. I'm ready to go to vote. I think we're on a second round with Mrs. Wearsma if you want to go. Unless you

want to go to vote. I was just going to say you should vote yes because I've put more than two things on the agenda and they've complained about everything I put on the agenda. So, they actually should support this and then it'll mitigate me putting extra stuff on the agenda, too. Thank you, Dr. Anderson. All right, second round. I

did we already do I am It's getting late. I'm not sure if we had a second round or Mr. Bar or not. I think I only had one. All right, second round. All right, he yields his time. Mr. fors. I just want to know who Dr. Anderson was referring to when she said they. Can I get an answer, please?

All right. I don't know um if this one Melissa, did you want to speak to this? I know you've agendaized and I see one under 14. Oh, that's D and H. Okay. Len, would you mind calling ro? The motion is to uh the motion in the second is to agendaize the um sorry to vote on the language that I've added. Okay, where's my do we

need to delineate the verbiage that I added in terms of if something's coming back for a final or second read? Doesn't need to because it goes without saying. Yeah, this is just each agenda agendaizing a new item. Anything that was in the queue before that getting a second read for or sorry a second read or or first read that's that

doesn't limit board me. Yeah. Okay. Si, yes. I meant second or third read. Okay. Anderson. Yes. Barham. No. Schwarz. No. Kamroski. Did we get that on mic? I think we did. No. Uh. Yes. Um, student board member. Yes. Motion adopted 3 to2. Now we're on to graduation ceremonies and activities. Item D. Lay, would you mind pulling this up? I think we have a speaker,

too. We have um up. No, you're going to talk on the visits. That's right. We just witnessed uh Dr. Kamaskk's charm enthalling the audience recently. I'm just going to share one line from my grandma. If you're going without an invitation, you're an imposition. And that's it. Thank you. Okay. So yeah. Um Okay. So there's two there's there's things that

Dr. Anderson has added and there's a couple things that I've I've added. Um um if you're going to speak, you're going to speak for one two minutes. So we'll skip the presenting and just speak for two minutes unless you want to. Okay. Okay. So, we'll just do uh two rounds here if we get that far. Um I initially amended this

policy and it was very militant and the uh site administrators reached out to me and then we met in the D district office and came up with the blue language. So, I just want everyone to know I will only support the blue language that I worked with um because it was a collaborative effort and I um am not going to add the uh the um highlighted

blue. So, I'm not I'm not going to support the um board member remarks at graduation because that wasn't part of our collaborative meeting. That's it. Okay. and then I'll go on this. So, the highlighted um I heard just just an off-handed comment when Mr. Schwarz said good right there. But here's the irony of all ironies and this happened before

my recall when we accepted the class. Actually, Mr. Schwarz accepted the class for Ranch Vista and we were supposed to, you know, we get like a line maybe two where you accept the class. Mr. Schwarz actually spoke for about three minutes. He talked about students he visited. This is this is during the actual line when he's supposed to accept a class. You actually gave a

speech, Mr. Schwarz. So, I thought if Mr. Schwarz is going to give and don't interrupt my time. I'm not asking you a question. I'm making a statement. I'm on my own time. I won't. And I'll never even forget it. There was a He's retired now, but somebody actually said, "Mr. Schwarz, can we move on?" Like, you kept on talking and it

was unscripted. And so, I thought, "Wow, I'm not the first board member to do this. Maybe maybe what Mr. Schwarz did maybe we can all do. So you in fact started this and I thought I don't know I've seen other elected officials speak. Um we are accepting the class. I heard these skewed arguments out there that it's not about you.

Um excuse me the classes don't graduate unless you have an elected official accepting a class literally. So when a board member accepts the class and then speaks on it, I'm just thinking, okay, we maybe we normalize this to be fair to the other board members like Mr. Barham when he said if you grant one uh more time to one board member,

shouldn't you grant it to all five? It's called fairness. It's a principle. We all use it. And so that applies to you, Mr. Schwarz. If you sit here and actually deny what you did, I will be in shock. You actually did speak at when you were supposed to accept the class. And so I am fine if this doesn't happen. I just

thought let's just normalize it for the board and see where the votes go. So I yield my time. Now it is Mr. Barham's time. I have a question for Dr. Dr. Anderson. Are you striking anything in here or are you just not supporting? Um, I I am only going to vote for the lang the original language and I'm I would like to strike but everything

else is in here. That's the problem. I mean, how No, no. So, I need to strike um Dr. Kamroski's language is what I'll So, are you going to make an amendment to do that? I will make after everyone's speaking. I want to give everyone a chance. Um, I can make an amendment before we vote because I'm going to make an amendment. If you're not,

then go ahead and make it. Okay. So, I move to strike uh the the uh board members speaking at graduation. Do I have a second? Second. Let's just vote. Unless Jen wants to speak. Uh, Mr. Schwarz, your turn. Yes. And I do not deny what you said, Dr. Kamaroski. However, you did not uh know my conversation with Mr. Schlottman

who was the principal who did ask me to address the students. So that is you were correct. I did do that. But secondly, you you omitted the second part of what happened graduation. I was the one who was supposed to hand out the diplomas and you said to me, Mr. Schwarz, would it be okay if I handed out half the diplomas even though I

wasn't asked to do that? And I graciously said, "Yes, you may because I didn't want you to have to stand up there and do nothing." So, you are correct. I did make a speech, but I also made a concession to you because you asked me to let you participate. I'm not I'm not saying I was right and you were wrong. I was just

saying I tried to do the right thing. Thank you. Okay. So, that's the first round. Mrs. Worma, it's not my time. Are we dealing with the amendment or are we dealing with amendment? We we already have a motion and a second with with language. So, we're dealing with the original motion right now as we're going around the table. Not the amendment. I'm sorry. No,

we're dealing with the motion that you got a second from with Mr. uh who seconded your motion to strike. Yeah. Yeah. So, we're dealing with that. We're dealing with the strike. Yeah, we're dealing with the strike. So, Mr. Wman, some of the most inspirational moments that I've heard from a variety of ceremonies have of course come from students, but also from a board

member. I totally identify with people here who have said it's on a time limit. We want to hear the students and this is true. But I would love to be able to encourage and inspire and be able to share a couple of words to young people that I think we could all agree on. So I I would love to

be invited and to have that opportunity. I support you on that. Um I think in principles or different people inviting trustees that puts an awkward position on them. So that's why I would rather just have something here as you've written that says there is the option. If you don't want to, you don't. I further don't think there should

be three trustees that speak. It should be one for two minutes. And the hope would be we could all decide how that would work should we want that opportunity. So that's how I would look at it. Okay. Dr. Anderson and this is our second round and we can go to vote. No, no comments. Mr. Bar, Mr. Schwarz,

and I'll just end with this. So I I will vote no on this because I'm with Mrs. Worsma to add that flexibility. But then what I would expect this gets voted in come graduation day. I would expect all board members to read that line or two accepting the class and not voting this down and then giving a speech because that would be just

hypocritical. You know that's what I would expect. It is it is my time. Sorry, Len. You didn't start it. Yeah. So Mr. bar. Uh, we're going to get there. No, no. Oh, I just asked you if you had comments and you said no. I'm asking the comments on the strike amendment. We're still on the correct striking the

vote. Well, hold on. So, hold on. I got I got sticky notes here. We are on D and I did ask the student board member she wants to speak and she's going to speak. Floor is yours. Thanks Dr. Koski. Um so I attended Shap's graduation as a member of the honor guard last year. So I'm speaking from experience as like a student

sitting on the field in our district. Many of our high school graduating classes are very large. Mine is almost 800 students. Uh because of that, graduation ceremonies are already quite lengthy. Between student speakers, performances, and special recognitions, as well as the process of recognizing every graduate, the ceremonies can take a significant amount of time. Of course, students are generally happy to

sit through that because those moments highlight their classmates and their own achievements. Before formally adding board member speeches into graduation ceremony bylaws, I think it might be valuable to gather some stakeholder feedback. For example, surveying graduating high school students to see whether they would find board member remarks meaningful or whether they would prefer to keep the focus primarily on student speakers. Since

the ceremony is ultimately for the students, their perspective could be helpful in guiding this decision. I also think it could be helpful to ensure that high school site administrators, especially principles who organize and run these ceremonies, have an opportunity to provide input since they are responsible for planning the program and managing the timing of the event. If the board does decide to move forward with

allowing remarks, I would suggest establishing clear limits on how many board members may speak. Allowing multiple trustees to speak could unintentionally extend ceremonies even further. A more structured approach, such as having one designated trustee deliver brief remarks, perhaps the trustee representing the area of the school site, might help keep ceremonies focused and consistent across the district. Ultimately, my main goal is simply to

make sure graduation ceremonies remain centered on students and their achievements while also being mindful of the time and structure of the event. Thank you, Melissa. Len, would you mind calling ro? We do have a motion in a second. On the amended. Yeah. To be clear, we are striking board member remarks at graduation and promotion ceremonies. All of that highlighted blue.

Yeah, that's the motion in the second. Wearsma, no. Anderson, yes. Barham, yes. Schwarz, yes. Kamoski, no. Student board member, yes. Motion adopted, three to two. Thank you, Len. Okay, so now we're on to student records. E, we just voted in. Oh, I see. Okay. So, now we we just voted on mine. Now we're on to Melinda's language. Oh yeah. Okay.

That's motion to adopt my language. Where's my Yes. Anderson? Yes. Barham? Yes. Shorts? Yes. Kamaroski? Yes. Student board member? Yes. Motion adopted five to zero. Thank you, Len. Now we can finally move on. Okay. So, now we're on to student records. E. And this was agendaized. Yes. Um, all right. I will I will not present on this. Um,

can you go back to the actual I'm sorry, the rationale on the topic sheet. um CSVA. Okay. Yeah, I will um I will just ask that you open up the document so that we can see it. Thanks, Mon. And then we have the yellow. The yellow highlighted is from Miss Wisma and I and then the pink is from Dr. Anderson.

Can I ask you a question? Sure. Question. the the yellow is similar to the other language we have. Can you tell me what changed? So, I'm sorry. Can I That's my fault. So, it is exactly the language that you already adopted, Melinda. I just was showing that that we kept that in there because that was not part of the CSBA one. Sorry. And sorry

to talk over you, Dr. Kowski. Yeah. No, no. I that's really helpful. We just added Dr. Sorry, Miss Worman and I we just had that added because Send it to CSB. CSBA. Yeah, we left it in there because CSBA stroke it. So that I have nothing to add to this other than Yeah, I am going to vote. You're not going to talk,

are you? So then this. So now um we just have to get a motion in a second to adopt. So Dr. Anderson Dr. Anderson, do you want to present on this on your pink language? Oh, it was just to clarify for the site admin and this was added. Okay. And it was sent to CSVA. So, I'll make a motion

um to adopt the um the pink language and then that yellow addition that CSVA stroke that we brought out. So, I I make a motion to adopt all of this. Do I have a second? Second. Second by Dr. Anderson. And now we can go two rounds and two rounds if we want to. I know we It's Oh,

it's 11. It's 11:11. So, um I have I have nothing to add. Um we have a motion to second. Len, would you mind calling ro? Sure. Wears yes. Anderson, yes. Barham, yes. Schwarz, no. Kamaroski, yes. A student board member, yes. Motion adopted four to one. Okay, we're on to visits to schools. Um, if we can pull that up. Thank you, Len. And oh,

this is this is great. Uh, let's go to the top. We have pink, pink, Melinda, yellow, Miss Wisma, orange, Mr. Schwarz, green, the district. Um, can we just start right from the top? Do we have a consensus to take green on from the district? Wait, I I mashed everything to I mashed everything together that Do you want to show the mashup that

I sent you? I actually Excuse me when I say this. I actually want to run from the deis and let somebody else do this, but I'm going to do it only because it's it's a joke. It's getting late. Yeah, we do have Mrs. Femi to comment. Okay, welcome up. I'm sorry, Jean. Yes, we have you there. So, uh here are my comments. Several

of the additions in pink duplicate text that is already there and are therefore unnecessary. So, for example, under purpose and intent, that first sentence there is a duplicate of something that appears almost precisely elsewhere. Um, another item, same day unannounced visits, in my opinion, should be subject only to the superintendent's approval, not to the boards. Forcing trustees to acknowledge in writing that

they have read this bylaw is frankly silly. Um, you've all seen it multiple times. You know what's in it. I see no reason to limit visits to one trustee at a time. You all know your responsibilities under the Brown Act. I don't see any problem with having two people there. I agree with most of the Green District

additions except under conduct during visits. There I agree with the comments that the language is too rigid. However, I would keep the statement, quote, "Any concerns or observations arising from a site visit shall be communicated privately to the superintendent." That seems important to me. There's a bullet uh starting sequential or serial site visits, and it's not clear whose intentions

we're talking about there. I don't understand that bullet at all. Uh, as I said, I feel like you've given Len a lot of work for no reason here. So much of this is unnecessary. Those of you who do visit school sites, Mrs. Wearsma, Dr. Kamaroski, Mr. Schwarz, and Mr. Barham, I have it on very good authority, though you all treat site visits

and the students there exactly as you should. Perhaps you have heard the expression rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic. I really would appreciate it if you would stop rearranging words on a page and start facing the actual icebergs that we have in front of us. Thank you. Okay, Len, can you bring that mash that mash up? I just everything that um Steve and Jen asked to

strike, I just let's just strike it. Let's like not make it complicated. Um, I do go to site visits, but I did put a thing in making it fair because it wasn't fair the way they were being distributed. Um, and so Steve, I I took all of yours, your recommendations. Um, and the only question and then I even kept mine. If you said

strike mine, I just struck it. I I'm not married to this. So, struck everything. Um, I agree with the public comments. I think the uh, Jen, I struck your language. I think they're going to pervas on it. So, this is what it looks like with Jen and Steves and mine all struck. And the only question that would remain would be, do we want

one or two board members at the site visits? And I think it should be one. That's it. So, can can you keep mine pulled up? I'm going to fix so Jen can see it. She can't see it. Thank you, Ms. Worm. So, I think Jean made I think Jean made some good points. I think we've all had really successful

visits for the most part and there should be some autonomy and flexibility here, which is why I put some of the green language is a little rigid. I'm fine with one board member or two. I've actually enjoyed having a colleague with me when I visit. Um, in terms of some of the language here, there was some confusion because I asked for

certain language to be struck. For example, I put these site visits could be used for oversight and evaluation. I heard a public comment tonight about the board not being the one to evaluate. And that's true. I wasn't talking about a formal evaluation. I was simply wanting to point out that when the Bridges program is going on and they're

dealing with new math, I may ask a question of how is it going and that should be just fine. When it comes to Snorkel, which I know my colleague mentioned, which is an AI tool, I talked about it with a teacher and a math problem and how snorkel got it wrong with AI. These are bugs that they're working out. So, I as a trustee, I want

to hear about it, right? But it doesn't mean I'm doing an evaluation for the teacher. So, again, I think we've done a great job with our visits. Um, I think I agree with what you said in terms of striking things. If I can hear from the rest about whether it's one or two, if it stresses out the staff, I'm fine to do one. Um, but overall,

I think our site visits are very successful. Mr. tomorrow. I would listen I would like to strike this whole policy to be quite hon I I just this this is just jumble. It's it's a disaster to me. It's a mess. Somebody said it was a mess. I can't even look at it without I just shut down looking

at it. It's it's it's a disaster. Um I want to just go back to what we do. Why can't we just go back? Dr. as to what we do. Okay? Because this is control over here. That's why this was brought. Okay? Because she's got nothing better to add. That's really what this is. It has been working. It's been beautiful for me. I think for

you, I don't know what her problem is with this and why she brought it, but there's never been an issue. There's never been a complaint. And I just I just want to strike the whole thing. I I move to strike this whole thing and we have somebody who has been scheduling our our site visits and it's worked just fine for a whole year.

Okay. Except for the person who's never been on a site visit up until two weeks ago. That's not true. So that's that is true. That's totally untrue. Dr. Anderson, just let him talk. No, that Yeah, that's my time. The last time you were on a site visit, okay, outside of two weeks ago was February 18th of 2025. It's taken you

haven't been on a site visit for one year. And yet you want to dictate how this is all going to go and I think it's ridiculous. I move to strike this whole policy, go back to what we were doing with Len and it works. Do I have a second? Second. Mr. Schwarz, would you like to speak? Uh, yes.

real quickly. I've been doing site visits for five years and I am constantly reinvited to schools to do them. So, if there was ever an issue that would have gone to the superintendent or someone else and if they don't want me, they wouldn't invite me. As it is, I had I did uh one, two, three, four, five, six, seven,

eight since our last uh board meeting two weeks ago. And uh I have a whole bunch scheduled. Never had an issue. Never had anyone say to me, "Please don't come back to my room or please don't come to my school anymore." Never had a principal say, "Boy, you really insult." Never. Never in five years. So I think this whole thing is absolutely

unnecessary. I'm not going to make any comments about who put it up there. That's irrelevant. I think it's unnecessary. We had a great policy before and I don't know why we should change it. We have a motion and a second, but before we vote, I'm going to weigh in now. Uh, but I need two minutes, please. No, it's it's getting late. Um,

I'm I'm for one board member per visit because I think it's it's a little bit too stressful on teachers. I'm an educator myself, honestly. There's there's a lot of people that come in to classrooms, but I'm also for the original language that we had. I'm not for any additions on here except for limiting it to one board

member. And after when we visit all of our uh sites in our trustee area, if we want to tack on other sites, I'm I'm up for that. And Len can work on that. She's done that in the past. I mean I mean technically we can visit all kinds of sites. It's just that I I just I don't agree

with uh two board members, but I don't agree with the additional edits either. So I'm going to strike down this vote, but we can take this to vote and then we're going to have to make another Yeah. So um I don't have any other comments on this. And I'm not sure this one. Yeah. Uh Melissa didn't comment on this to speak. Okay. So would

you mind calling ro on this unless there's So I'm calling on on your motion on striking the whole policy. Your motion is to strike the whole thing. There's only one more question I would ask. Okay. Before and she may not want to weigh in. Dr. Valz, is there anything you want to add in terms of this policy? Because obviously the

green was district related. I felt like some of it was a little too rigid. But is there anything you care to weigh in on with what we had before with striking this? any thoughts? Don't lie about your visits. So, my feeling on this is I was asked for some input in terms of um the site visits. I think one of the most important things that's

really important to me is the philosophy behind the site visits. What is the purpose? Why are we there? Because it gives our staff at the school sites, our principles, um teachers direction in terms of why we're there. Other than a philosophy, I'm not married to any of the language. I will say that I do think site visits for the most part have

handled been handled just fine. I will say it's a lot on Miss Anna Seabar at times to do that, but she does a wonderful job in scheduling them. The most important thing for me is the philosophy. I do agree with Dr. Kamaroski. Sometimes having one board member attend is a little less stressful for our staff. If you look at some of our high

schools, when we have two trustees, myself, I have a principal and an assistant principal go and walk into a teacher's classroom while she's trying to instruct, it can be pretty impactful. So, my recommendation is one. And again, I think the philosophy is really important. Thank you, Dr. Blesz. I'm going to have Dr. Anderson on her second round. Yeah. Two minutes before we go to

vote. Some of the pink language is added because I I do have Len keep a calendar and I watched the calendar and I signed up for site visits but she was put in a bad situation because as I saw that none of the sites were filling up on the calendar. I sent her a text message and I gave her the sites

and the dates that I was available and wanted to attend. And there was probably nine or 10 of them. And I even sent Mrs. Wearsman a text that said, "Hey, I signed up for like nine or 10 site visits and that's not fair. So, if you want some, I'll back out. And then I got a call from the district

saying, "We don't know what to do." Because a board member walked in the first thing in the morning and said, "Sign me up for everything." Um, and then I was blocked from signing up. And I fought the district saying, "I sent an official request. I sent my dates. I sent my sites, but they they told me, "Well, it doesn't say it

in the in the policy. You didn't say that they have to email." They just popped their head in and said, "Sign me up for everything." So, this is to make it fair. And you you can see I put language in there that that I'm hoping that going forward the superintendent will will see like, yeah, we have I have a list of everyone that signed up

and we have two board members that are especially signed up for almost all the sites. And I have to say this policy was created at the request of Dr. Woods because the problem started last year where one board member was signing up for all the site visits and wanted to be a third board member and go to all the site visits as a third. So I sat

Dr. Woods explained that's a problem and as the board president I sat down and I was just trying to find a way that we can make it fair to all the board members and not put a burden on the sites when we go. That's what this is about. Um, so I'm hoping that we don't strike the whole thing down

because really I'm just looking for a fair way um that we can all take turns and visit the sites and that's why the language was amended and I still stand by one board member. Oh, and Mr. Barham is incorrect. I do go to site visits. Okay. Would you mind calling? Okay. So this is on the striking the whole policy,

correct? Yes. This is on striking the whole policy. That's correct. Okay. Where's my Does that mean we go back to the original with one board member? No, it goes back to the what we've had in the last year with two board members. The existing. Yeah. But no edits. No. I'm sorry. I'm just so confused. I know. This is

what we've had in the last year with no edits at all. That's what Emil and Mr. uh Mr. Barham and that's what Mr. Schwarz seconded the motion and seconded it. It's the policy that we've had for the last year, year and a half. However long we've had it, no changes. That's what they want. Can I Is that what you're saying? No changes. Okay.

You know what? Can I You can amend the motion because you're the one that made it. Okay. So, I I want to amend the motion. I'm going to amend it. I'm going to amend to strike the whole thing outside of one board member or two if we want to go together. Okay? And we go together and we we

and the reason I want to do that is because when we go together, we work well together. It's a good it's a good exchange. It's good interaction. If you all want to go with one, that's up to you. Okay. Or if you want to go with someone else. Yeah. Or if you want to go with someone else. It's just like it's

we're micromanaging this. It's like, you know, there's never been a problem. Has there really ever been a problem with two, let's be honest. So, Mr. Barham, what I'm hearing from you is one board member or two, which actually is the policy that we still have in existence. So, essentially what you're saying is again, you're not really amending

the policy. You're just saying you want to strike the whole policy. If that's what we have in place, then let's strike. That's what I'm hearing. Then let's strike the whole thing. Yeah. But but the thing is is you want to strike it, but you want to say one board member visit, but it's up to the one board member if he wants to allow another

board member to visit with him. Yeah. I mean, for example, so it is a change. It's not what we have now. Okay. So, for example, for example, if I'm going to Rancho Elementary is mine. Okay. No, it's no one's. It's the whole board can go. No, it's but it's in it's in my trusty area. Talking trusty area. Yeah, it's in Thank you, Melinda. It's in my

trusty area. Um if Schwarz wants to go with me to Rancho Elementary, why can't he come with me? Okay. If I don't want him to come, I won't ask him to come because it's in my trustee area. You're You know what? Excuse me. You like to go alone be in your trustee areas. You've said that because you want to since it's your school in your trustee

area, you want to be, you know, you want the focus and I get it to be on yourself because you want to develop relationships with those administrators and those teachers. I understand that and I would respect that. But if I want to go with someone else, I should have We're adults here. Let's let's not micromanage this to to pieces.

If I want to go with Schwarz because I enjoy Schwarz on a site visit, it's fun. Okay, I should be able to do that. Can I make a point that I only have four sites and that's why it has to be in a way that's fair to Hold on. Hold on. We'll let you make it, but hold on. Mr. Barum, you made a motion

and we'll see if you get a second. And what you mean is not the policy we have now to strike it to one with an optional of inviting a board member to attend with you in your trusty area. an option. Do we have Do you have Do you have a second? Yes. Okay, Mr. Schwarz, now that we got that. Thank

you, Dr. Anderson. The The problem with that is I only have four schools. So then someone else has nine schools, so they get the priority and then they get to pick who goes with them. That's not a fair way to do it. This is what I put on there. It's one board member and Dr. VeZ will decide if

it's being distributed fairly. if if we do the it's in my trustee area. I've only been assigned four elementary schools, so that doesn't make it fair. And also, there's language in here that says we're going to email and make an official request so that a board member doesn't stick their head in Len's office and say, "Sign me up for everything

and then take all the meeting, all the all the site visits." like this is just very like if I felt like if we could manage ourselves in a fair way then we wouldn't need to spend so much time on this but unfortunately the site visits aren't being distributed fairly. Uh we need to say that they have to sign up by email and they can't put

pressure on Len by just popping their head in and saying sign me up for everything. That's not fair. So, it's just a way to make it fair for everyone and I have language in there that the superintendent will distribute it equally amongst everyone. So, you then let's just keep the keep the pink language then. No, you know what

I mean? I understand you only have I totally agree with what you're saying. I just want to have my discretion. Okay. I want to I just I just want you know what you're not going to be if you want I told I would like to go to school. Is this my time? Whose time is this? Yeah. Lyn, why don't

you make it fair? you took all the site visits and when I asked to go to my schools, I was told no because you and Steve signed up for all of them. But when I was watching the calendar, nobody was on the calendar. So when I saw that nobody was on the calendar, I signed up for my visits

and then I was told that you went in and said, "Sign me up for everything." And I was denied my site visits. So, it's like we should just and and I also it's stressful for the district to have because you do harass me and they don't want to have to play babysitter when you're when we're around. So, I've been asked I they tell me ahead

of time, hey, Mr. Barham's on your site visit might be less stressful and I don't go to the ones that you're at. So, that's another thing like we just need to do it so it's fair for everyone. You know, that's not fair. That's not fair. All right. All right. I I I think I am leaning into voting with one with the option of a second

attending because it is flexible. And if one trustee only has Hold on, hold on. I'm going to get to it. If one person has a trustee area of four, I have seven. And that trustee says, "Look, I don't have a lot of site visits. I want to hop on. Do you mind?" I think that any one of these

board members could be flexible. Um, so I'm with one with the option of two for now. Otherwise, I'm for tableabling this to the next meeting. Let's go. Can we vote, please? But I'm not for asking permission to visit a site if it's in our trustee area with written notice. I mean, that just goes without saying. It's like, of course. No,

you're right. But can I can I just add um I was supposed to go to Great Oak on Thursday and Dr. Ederson was on the visit with me. I didn't say no, it's my school. You can't go. I saw she was there and I said fine. And have I signed up for schools outside my trust area? Yes, I have. I haven't had

a chance to visit them in two years. I think as a trustee of the whole district, I should have the ability to visit any school I want. And I don't want to push anyone else out. So, if any of my I'm going to say it now, if any of my visits have taken away another trustes uh ability to

visit their schools, take me off and put them on. I have no problem doing that. And so for clarity, let's say I want to go to Great Oak, but you're at Great Oak and you invite a meal and I'm like, "Oh, well, I still want to go." I can set up another visit with Dr. VeZ later on in the year. Well,

you could go with me. It's fine. But but if you've invited somebody else, I would No, I don't invite anyone. No, but what I'm saying is if somebody wants to go and you invite them and then another trustee says, "Well, I'm going to go too." We just do a different visit all. Yes, absolutely. No problem. So, could we vote, please?

And so, Mr. Barham, based on that information, I do think you have to amend your motion if you're amending it to two board members with the or one board member with the option of two. Yes. And that board member decides who wants to let's say let's say three board members at once say I want to go to great oak. What are we voting on? Okay. So,

we're going to amend the motion to one board member with the option of two. Do I have a second? Second. Can we vote? L, would you mind calling role? That's striking everything else. Correct. Part of this is ed code. I So, we're striking everything else. So, now we have no policy. We have the old policy. It's striking the

additions. The problem The problem is we do have a motion in a second. The district is I just wanted to be clear on the motion. I'm sorry. Yeah. No, I mean, Dr. Anderson. Well, point well taken, but we're going to take this to vote. No additional language other than these provision. That's just the motion in the second. If if this fails, we'll

have another motion in a second. Okay. Whereersma? Yes. Anderson, yes. Barham, yes. Yes. Schwarz, yes. Kamaroski, yes. Student vote, yes. Motion adopted, five to zero. Thank you everybody for your patience. I know there's people. Can I ask for clarification moving forward then? How are we going to set up the site visits? Are we still going to allow Mr. Barham just to show

up in the morning and take them all or can I ask the superintendent? Let's have this conversation offline with the superintendent. We have a motion in a second. I I honestly Good question. Let's let's have it offline. And then he sits at the meetings and says I don't go to any Okay. So, we're on action item and that you you

show that Yeah. Dr. Vez wants to speak, guys. Uh, Dr. Anderson, I do hear you. I will work with Miss Anna Seabar to figure out a fair system to be able to do that. So, we will work on that internally. Okay. Um, we are on item G. And by the way, okay. Yeah. Item item G. We as a board,

if we want to, can vote to table these to the next meeting and do consent calendar and call it a night. All right. All right. Let's let's power through them. Board committees. G I don't have any comment. Uh can we open up the document then? Um Dr. Anderson, you're presenting. Oh yeah. Okay. So we'll get there. Yep. Uh

we have one comment. Do we have two or just one? Miss Femia, welcome. Jean. Hello again. Um, regarding this uh bylaw 9130, board committees, uh, the additions in pink are unnecessary. Board bylaw 9150, student board members, states, quote, "Student board me, pardon me, student board members shall be appointed to subcommittees of the board in the same manner as other board members."

End quote. 9150 already also covers the other points in pink. expectations, communications, standards, limitations, and confidential matters are all described in detail in 9150. They do not need to be restated here. As I said, I have been extremely disappointed to see how some of you have treated our current student board member, Dr. Anderson, Dr. Kamroski. The dismissive attitude

that you have shown to her is an embarrassment to our community. You consistently pass over her right to vote. You discourage her joining in discussions and ignore her comments. You want to put all kinds of limits on her position. You really don't appear to want her here. Yet, you should be listening to student viewpoints. And you could not have found a better student board

member than Miss Chai. She's professional. She's rational. She treats everyone with respect. I do not understand why you cannot treat her with the same respect. Please do not add these unnecessary additions to bylaw 9130. Thank you. Dr. Anderson, you can present. Uh this isn't for the student board member. This is for non- studentent board members. if student we've had some students interested

in participating on the committees and at this point it whatever the board decides I just thought there should be clear guidelines for non- studentent board members if they want to also join the committee so this isn't related to Melissa it's other students okay uh Mrs. I think that was a good point of clarification that you just mentioned that it's for students

participating in committees and other things. I don't think having extra precautions is a problem. I think it's best to be very wise with how we're bringing students in and out. We do want to hear from students. There does need to be boundaries. That's important, too. And this was the first year in having a student board member. So to segue back

to that, we knew there would be a little bit of an eb and flow in learning what works um what should be spoken to, what should be tweaked, and uh I do appreciate Melissa and everything that she's added and I hope that you feel that uh on some level because we do appreciate your insight. So with the pink language and what you just clarified,

Dr. Anderson, I I'm fine with it. So is there a motion in a second? Would you like to make a motion in a second? We can expedite this. Motion to adopt the pink language. All right. Do we have a second? I will second. Second by Miss Wisma. Mr. Barum. This language is replete with civil rights violations and is unconstitutional.

And I will be voting no. Mr. Schwarz. No. Oh, okay. Uh, no second round of comments. You just want to take this to vote? Yes. All right. Thank you for making the distinction, Dr. Anderson. Um, that helps. Uh, Len, would you mind calling ro Where's Anderson? Yes. Barham, no. Schwarz, no. Kamaroski, yes. Student vote, no. Motion adopted,

three to two. Okay, now we're on to H. student board member. And on this one, we will go with um Dr. Anderson to present two rounds of two if we get there. And then uh Melissa Chai, I will call on you after we do all of our moral deliberation. So you're you're queued in there. Which one? Yes.

I just thought that I would add a few words to just clarify the communication. That's all. I think I just added three words, four words. Uh, text messaging, private phone calls, private emails. Gotcha. Okay. Do you want to make a motion maybe expedite motion to adopt the additional language? Do we have a second? I will second. We have a motion, a

second on the table. And Ms. Wersma, do you want to speak on this? We can now go into two rounds of two or we could take this to vote. You're good. So again, give it to Ms. worse with it. So again, I think it's really important to be sure that we have boundaries and this policy and why we're

talking about it is because of recent events and again I think it's always wiser to heir on the side of being really conservative when it comes to spending time with students. I did receive an email from a constituent who gave me the right to read out what she emailed the board. She said here on February 26th, I was taken to court by parents

for a civil harassment uh restraining order where they claimed there were targeting public targeting of their son in violence. Ultimately, the judge decided there was no violence or public point of order. Mrs. Wearsman, this has nothing to do with the student board member and the policy. Oh, you know what? I'm so sorry. You are correct. I totally shortcircuited. It's late. I apologize.

You are correct. No problem. Thank you. Okay. Okay. I need to reel that back in. There there were too many. I wish looking back we'd put this in a separate afternoon workshop. So, I apologize. Um, all right then. I'm going to go ahead and yield my time just so I can pull my thoughts back together. I should have caught that, too. And

I apologize. Thank you. Um, we'll go to Mr. Barum. This policy is replete with civil rights violations and constitutional infringements and violations of California Ed Code. And I will be voting no. Thank you, Mr. Bar. Mr. Schwarz. Nothing to add. Okay. May I ask one point of clarification to Mr. Barum? Did I answer? You have the option

to answer or not answer. Do you want to give any substantiating reason for that particular statement? Answer. The only thing that I'm start Jen's time. Yeah. The only thing that I would want to say is that I've done my own research. I asked to speak to Mr. Huff regarding constitutional issues regarding all of these policies and I was denied. So this is

my this is my opinion based on the research that I've done. Um so that's all I have Mrs. Wearsma because I was not allowed to talk I wanted to talk to an attorney about all of these policies with regard to the constitutional issues but I wasn't able to do it. So that's why it's it's my own opinion at this point in time. Um,

but that's that. Excuse me. She asked me the question, not you. Um, but that's, you know, that's that's pretty much all I have to say, but I mean, I think I'm on pretty solid ground. I mean, I've done a lot of research. I delved into this and, uh, you know, I just don't think that now is the time to explain it because it's almost

midnight. But I think we have a lot of problems with all of these policies to be quite frank with you. And I think we I would be pumping the brakes. That's all I'm going to say here. I would be pumping the brakes on all of these. Okay. Then I'll take uh my comments. Um I didn't get to

go yet. I'm I'm not going to talk after this, but I'm just going to say I'm I'm going to vote on this and it's almost approaching 12. We got to power through this agenda. But I will say too that uh the many questions that board members have just to give a friendly reminder. It's not necessary to say I want to talk to legal to have these

questions answered. It It's kind of sad, but some of you didn't even reach out to your one employee, the superintendent, Dr. who's the CEO of this district and can easily answer your questions with legal. So you you actually have that resource. Try that on all these wonderful questions that you may have. And I've yield my time. I just want to take this to vote.

Mr. Schwarz, do we have no second rounds? And uh Dr. just to clarify because I added this language. Um it's not constitutional and board members should be able to have private emails, private phone calls, private conversations, private social media. I just don't believe that that's within their co constitutional right. That's it. I'm move the question. Melissa Chai,

do you have any comments before we get a vote? Kind of a lot. Sorry. Okay. I hate to introduce a bunch of questions and hypothetical situations this late at night, but that's kind of all what we've been doing for the past hour. And I think what I have to say is kind of timesensitive. And I've also spoken with CSBA about this

to hop on that train. I guess I think that this amendment is fine. My main concern with the proposed language now isn't the language itself, but that it raises some practical questions about how this would work in everyday situations. Just to give an example, if I'm attending a school event and coordinating meeting a trustee there, would sending a quick text message to locate

them be considered inappropriate communication if the superintendent is not copied? Situations like that come up naturally at school events and board functions. So, it would be helpful to understand where that line is intended to be drawn. I also wonder what the expectations would be if a communication occurred unintentionally outside of those parameters. Since the student board member is still a student, I want to make

sure the policy doesn't unintentionally put the student in an uncomfortable position where they feel responsible for reporting an interaction or worrying whether a normal conversation could be considered a violation. I completely understand the concern about direct messaging on social media, but I also do want to make sure that the student board member still has effective ways to engage with students and members of the

community online. One idea that I've seen used in other California districts is the creation of a district- managed social media account for the student board member where a staff member also has access that allows students and community members to reach out while still maintaining transparency and appropriate oversight from staff. I'm not necessarily suggesting that as a final solution, but I would appreciate the

opportunity for us to spend some time discussing these questions and possible approaches. Ideally, ASAP since the application process for next year's student board member is currently underway and we are still establishing the expectations for this role. That's all. Thank you, Melissa. And I would recommend that all communication from a student go through the superintendent to a board member to keep the professional boundaries

but or assistant superintendent if you couldn't reach the superintendent and that would seem reasonable. Len, would you mind calling ro? We do have a motion and a second to vote this in. Uh, yes. Anderson, yes. Barham, no. Schwarz, no. Kamaroski, yes. Student vote, yes on this amendment, but I would love some additions. Thank you. Motion adopted 3 to two. And I would

encourage you to speak with the superintendent after this, Melissa. Um, we're on to I new steward uh new board policies 4119242192431924 maintaining appropriate adult student actions. This seems um like distinctions without a difference but they are uh representative of three different classes of employees. Certificated, non-ert or classified and then what was the third? I'm just management. So,

it's pretty similar language throughout. Um, and we have the blue, we have the um CSBA recommended in pink. Um, what's Sorry. Sorry. Blueb. Yeah. Um, yes. So, thank you for that clarity. Um, I'm going to make a motion in a second to adopt this. Can all of this? Yeah, I I second. But we have similar and I want to

adopt at the very end. I want to adopt your blue language and strike my pink because it's right there. The ore part. A good clarifying. Yeah. So, let's I think you're except for the I make a motion to adopt all of it except for the ore and then the or yellow highlighted and then the strike that pink. Yeah. Do I have

a second? Second. Seconded by Dr. Anderson. I yield my comments. All of it. I'd like to take this to vote. We'll see if what the other board members think. Um Melissa, uh Ms. Where's Oh, so I support this for a number of reasons and obviously with parental rights that's always king for us. When it comes to this particular

situation, however, there was a court and a judge that weighed in and I think the judge was pretty clear that all trustees have to be careful that they're not violating Title 9. He did say that the Keenan training was important. He gave examples um that have gone on around the country and basically said when the concern was

posted on social media that they were well within their first amendment rights for that social media post and further said it is important that we have citizens who are willing to speak up when they see wrongdoing by public officials and that my reasoning for making the post was legitimate. So what I want to say here is if you have a court

looking at a situation and saying look it's a title n violation to sit with a student alone in that situation it's not wise. He basically laid out exactly why we were initially concerned. Do we move on from here all being the wiser for it? Yes. But I think it's important to note that that decision was rendered. So there's other

information here. I would really suggest that my colleagues not use litigation threats to go after people in this community because that is often how you see freedom of expression and discussion and cordial conversation stifled. And in this particular situation, that's going on again. And it's not right. So again, if you've got a judge speaking to this and wanting to protect

the student and letting the parents know, hey, this is really where it needs to go, the district has every ability now to make this change and I think we'll be all the better for it. Thank you, Miss Wesman. Dr. Anderson, no, I just um I'm grateful that this was brought because it was a conversation I've been having a long time. And

so um I'm grateful to the district and to you, Dr. Kamaroski for bringing this whole policy. Um I do think governing board members should be under the same standard as employees when it comes to interactions with students. Um just because we're elected doesn't give us special privileges to have special relationships. So that's all this does is add language that says the board members

don't have any additional privileges to form um relationships with students. that would be um anything different than what we expect our employees the the same standards we hold our employees to. So, thank you, Mr. Barnum. So, first of all, all I'm going to say is in terms of the person that you're speaking uh about, Mrs. Wearsma, there's a totally different story

from the other side. That's number one. And I'm just going to leave it there. Um, but I want to I do I have permission to ask Mr. Arce something in regards to some of this language? You can go ahead and ask Mr. Arce. Mr. for our say. I'm going to I'm going to give you an if then

statement and I want you to to to judge whether the statement that I give you is true or false. If I am sitting on this deis as an elected official, then I am part of district personnel. Is that true or false? To the best of my knowledge, that's false. Uh you are an elected official, not district personnel.

Okay. So, I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm going to give you what's called the converse. Now, excuse me, Dr. Anderson. I hear you. You know what? It's all right. We'll give you We'll give you 10 more seconds. Let's get through this meeting. Yeah. Yeah. It's constant is right. Um, if I am part of district personnel, then I cannot officially be elected as a school

board member. True or false? That is correct. So, you you you it's my understanding you'd have to resign your Exactly. position with the Exactly. So you can do whatever you want in keeping this language, but there's problems with it. And in addition to that, um, elected officials have certain privileges outside of their official duties constitutionally. And that is all I'm

going to say at this point. Mr. shorts. Um, all of this uh all of the things in this policy are things that we go through when we do Kenan training all the time. It's repetitive. Uh, I understand what's behind it. I'm not impuging anyone's motives. I I think if you're if you want to protect um that's great. And uh Mrs. Weman,

I couldn't disagree with you more. Parental rights are not king. Students are the king. That is why we are elected. We are not elected for parental rights. I'm sorry to raise my voice, but I don't know how many times I have to say it. Students are king. Not look at why we are elected and what we're supposed to support.

Students, thank you. and I'm voting no. Thank you, Mr. Schwarz. It's uh my comment time now. And I'm just going to say thank you to Len for finding these gems with CSBA. This was a correlary to the uh code of ethics bylaw that I was working on. So, um I'm going to be voting on this. I yield all

future comments. Um but we are now on a possible second round. Mrs. we respond. The only additional ad I have and I wish I could remember the legislation, but I have it in an email and I will send it to you, Mr. Barum, is where the the legis the legislators actually talk about all of the standards that are expected for a school district

in the LEA and they actually do mention all of the stakeholders, students, parents, teachers, governing board members. And so that stuck with me because as we move forward through a process and a conversation like this, yes, you may not be an employee. It's very interesting. We're elected, but we receive a stipend, but we have to do Kenan

training, but we're elected officials. And the bottom line is I'll send you what the state um said because I think it will help clarify it for you as to why we are tied into that point and that perhaps the judge was on to something there. So again, I think we can all get better from looking at this and moving forward more cautiously. Thank

you, Miss Where's Dr. Anderson? There's just a typo real quick in the very first line. District personnel, should it say including employees instead of include employees for the purposes including includes we'll make that typo change. And then the last thing, just in case someone didn't read this policy, governing board members, while not employees of the district, are elected governance officials

and are expected to adhere to the professional and ethical standards just like teachers. So, I just can't I still can't wrap around my mind around like people wanting special privileges to have special relationships with students. like just because we're elected officials doesn't mean we shouldn't also abide by the same rules as the other adults in the district. So this that's

it. Do I I get another round? Yeah, I get another round. So I just got a text from Mr. Bar. Are you done with your You had a minute. Are you done? I'm done. All right, Mr. Barum. So I just got a text from the opposing party, Mrs. Wesma. And this is all I'm gonna say. That's not what

the judge said. So of course that's it. Okay. So, um, that's all that's all I want to say. Thank you, Dr. Anderson, for reinforcing what I just said. We're all subject to Keenan training. We're all mandated reporters. And, um, if there has ever been a complaint about one of our visits or one of our relationships, um, it hasn't come hasn't made me aware

of it. And I I just think this is it's repetitive and the whole the whole tone of it is like with the fingerpointing rather than making it positive statements. Everything is like fingerpointing. It's just like the other um board policy where we should sign a permission slip before we go on a school visit. Do I have to

ask my mommy if I can go on a school visit and sign a permission slip? I mean, some of this stuff is really ridiculous. But let's get on. Can we vote, please? You done? Yes. All right. Len, would you mind calling role? Sure. Wema yes. Anderson, yes. Barham, yes. Schwarz, no. Kamoski, yes. Student vote. No. Motion adopted 4 to1. Thank

you, Len. We're on to professional standards J. I have Len pull this up. There we go. And we have the same. And up above again, certificated classified management. And um I'm going to with the exception of typos, I'm going to make a motion, a second uh or sorry, I'm going to make a motion. Do I have a second to

approve all of this? Second and call the question. Um, we uh, you know, we could just simply say, do you just want to pass up all board comments and vote? Do we have consensus for board comments? Yeah. Uh, yeah. To to to to skip all debate time. I am up for it to go straight to vote. Yeah,

let's go on this policy. That's fine. Do I have a second? Mr. Schwarz seconded. That's right. All right. Len, would you mind? Hold on. Hold on. I forgot. I forgot because you never know. Um Melissa. Okay. Thank you. Wema yes. Anderson yes. Barham yes. Schwarz no. Kamroski yes. Student vote. Yes. Motion adopted 4 to1. Okay. Now we're on to inventories. Administrative

regulation 3440. Um do we have any discussion on this? And I call uh for a motion and a second to approve. Moved. Moved by Mr. Schwarz. Second. Seconded by Mr. Barum. Would you uh No discussion. I don't want to discuss. Uh Len, would you mind calling roersma? Yes. Anderson? Yes. Barham? Yes. Schwarz? Yes. Kroski? Yes. Student vote? Yes. Motion

adopted 50. Thank you. Now we're on to the very last action item. It is um response to immigr a new board policy 1445 response to immigration enforcement. And on this one we had this is CSVA language. Um I'll make a motion and a second to adopt this with the CSVA recommended lage. Do I have a second? Moved. Um a move by Mr. Schwarz. Do

we have a second? Second. Second by Mr. Barum. Is there any discussion on this? This is on the um immigr response to immigration enforcement. I think Mrs. Worma added a preamble in here and we have a motion and a second to adopt it all. So I just want to clarify uh um Mrs. Worma. Okay. So you can see the preamble here. This

policy is established to ensure district compliance with California educational mandates and the protection of constitutional rights. It shall not be construed to impede the lawful execution of federal duties or to obstruct law enforcement in the event of exigent circumstances. This I thought would be proper because it addresses both state and federal guidelines. I think it's important that we are in

a neutral space and this right here ensures that federally if we looked at being possibly designated as a sanctuary school with federal guidelines or if officers couldn't come in and do what they needed to do in exigent circumstances which means an emergency without any issue then this is something that I think covers that in a fair and balanced way. So that's why I added that

in a very simple format and I think it has a place right at the top or at the very end of the policy so that if a judge or someone on a federal level were to review it they can see the balance right here. So that is why I put this forward. Point of clarity. There was a motion in a second to adopt

all of this. Correct. Yes. You guys are on board. Mr. Barum and Mr. Schwarz with the preamble. No. I thought you had a motion to second to adopt all of this with the preamble. I didn't know about the preamble until I just saw it and and as far as I'm concerned, I have to have a legal opinion on uh or

send it to CSBA and let send it to CSBA legal and let them say it's legal or not. If they say it's legal, I'm fine with it. But I I it's just I I am not going to vote on something unless I know it's legal. All right. So, to be clear, Emil, you're the only one you're the only one that can amend

this motion. Do you want to amend it to include the preamble? If not, we're going to vote on this and then we'll take another motion in a second. I'm going to go with All right. So, right now it's to vote on this without the preamble. Len, would you mind calling ro Where's no Anderson? No. So Barham, they just voted no on the preamble. Both

of them. No. Yes. You voted no on the ple. No, no, he did not amend. No, no. Point of clarity. He did not amend his motion. We are voting on this with the preamble. Without the preamble. He would not amend his motion because you were confused. You said there was a motion in a second and this is

not with the preamble. We have two votes and L, you could finish this out. This is with not with the preamble. Not with the preamble. That's right. Bar. I'm totally confused. Everything here except for what's in front of you on that screen. Every the one that you said you didn't want to vote on. You wanted to run it by CSV. Okay. So,

you want to vote yes on this, right? No, I want to vote for it to It's late. He wants to send it to CS. I want to send it to CSB. So, we're voting We're voting um You're voting right now. Um does not include this. Yes. Okay. Len's calling roll. Oh yes. Yes. Okay. So bar for Barham first. Yes.

Barham. Okay. Yes. Schwarz. Yes. Kamaroski. No. Student vote. Refrain. Motion not adopted. Uh 3 to two. Now I'll make a motion to include it with the preamble. Do I have a second? Second. Seconded by Miss Wisma. Len, would you mind calling ro? Wersma. Yes. Anderson. Yes. Barham, no. Schwarz, still no. Kamaroski, yes. Student vote, refrain. Motion adopted, three to two. So,

now we're on the consent calendar. Are there any items that any board member wants to pull, even though they didn't really ask at the beginning of the meeting? We have one public comment. If the person commenting can let us know what item you're commenting on. Uh, Christine Masa, she said item two. Okay. On the warrant list. See, when you drag these meetings out, it gives

me more time to come up with comments. So, this right. So, um warrant list for this month has or for this meeting has $30,000 in legal fees on it for specifically for the board. Two weeks ago, $15,000 in legal fees for the board. So that's $45,000 in about a month. So roughly, let's say roughly $400 an hour, that's more

than 110 hours of lawyer time. 40 hours a week, that's almost three solid weeks of attorney time. What are we doing? Aren't we supposed to be saving money and limiting attorney time? In fact, I think right now, Dr. Dr. Kowski, you're the only one who can even talk to attorneys. So, is this all you? Um, I mean, that's like two instructional

aids or in your terms, that's like nine months of additional stipend. What are we doing? Thank you. Okay, I'll take a motion, a second to adopt items on the consent calendar 1 through 18. Set to count up. 1 through 18. Do I have a motion and a second? Moved. Moved by Dr. Anderson. Do I have a second to I'll second it? Okay. Len,

would you mind calling? Where's my Can I ask a point of clarification first? So, if this isn't acceptable until board comments at the end, you can let me know. But I'm asking for a point of clarification before voting through an action item on the specific concern about the $30,000 in legal in terms of a purchase order. Can that be clarified by anyone here? Dr. Bles,

you didn't ask to pull it, so no, I guess not. I'm sorry, Miss Wema. Can you ask that question again? I'm sorry. Might have to open this warrant list up, Len to go to that. There's a $30,000 legal fee. Is that what you're saying? Yeah. So, a point of clarification and a question on this action item for me is a further explanation on the

$30,000 legal fee specifically from Atkinson if that can be spoken to in terms of a delineation with a purchase order versus a bill. So, we so at the current time we do have bills from that particular attorney firm. With that said, this is an open PO to cover some of those expenses and future expenses. Great. I think that clarifies

it. Thank you. Okay. Okay. Wearers, yes. Anderson, yes. Barham, no. Schwarz, no. Kamaroski, yes. Student vote refrain. Motion adopted 3 to2. Uh, negotiations update. Mr. Ars. Sure. Dr. Kamaroski. Just um a quick update. We met with TVA for negotiations on March 2nd. Uh we talked about several topics there with TVA including the sunshine board policies and we did provide a

formal compensation proposal to TVA. We'll be meeting with CSEA for bargaining on March 20th. And that's all I have for negotiations update. Dr. Karowski, thank you. Thank you. We're on to board comments. We'll go in voting order. Uh Mrs. worse. First of all, event planner kudos to Dr. BZ and the entire district staff for putting together a spectacular state of the district

event. It was an honor to be part of this first ever extravaganza. Another highlight for me was attending Summit Academyy's leadership day. It was inspiring to see students completely running the show from pep rallies to classroom discussions. I commend the principal, former principal Moore and the entire staff there for integrating the leader in me program. It's truly a fantastic

model of true social emotional learning, which is instilling the responsibility, the accountability, and the hard work that produces a healthy sense of self-confidence. Shout out to board member Melissa for organizing the cultural fair at Chapperel High School. between the food, the fashion show, and the celebration of global heritage. It was a beautiful evening dedicated to building our community. Thank you for inviting

me. Bravo to the TPUSA Club at Great Oak. These students asserted their First Amendment rights by inviting conservative Christian Jessica Tapia, who was fired from her school district for refusing to lie to parents. Due to escalated safety concerns, she was forced to speak virtually. Interestingly, in years past, a club at another TVUSD high school hosted a speaker named Jane Elliot. Now,

despite what some would say are controversial methods of subjecting children to discriminatory social tests, she was permitted to speak freely and without disruption from anyone. So, you see, the contrast here is undeniable. The push back to stop Tapia was largely fueled by defamatory lies manufactured by adults to derail the event. Friends, if we truly believe in free speech,

California Ed Code and the Equal Access Act, this double standard cannot stand. I look forward to a future event being scheduled with the expectation of administrative support and I believe that's there. Next, while we rightly prioritized board business tonight over a formal cure regarding the vulgar misogynistic language used by trustee Schwarz on this day, I still believe accountability is required

despite an apology or not. The record must reflect that this behavior directly violated California Ed Code, TVUSD and CSBA bylaws, and civil code section 51.9. It created a legally prohibited hostile work environment and it showed a terrible lack of respect to our staff and to our st student board member who actually cast a vote for you as

president. Clearly patterns do need to be broken both on and behind this deis. And Mr. Barham, I do know that you probably understand what I'm talking about because last December 3rd in our 65minute phone call, you explained why you now believe my testimony in last year's investigation as correct. And if you care to move forward in honesty, I'll consider

your request to meet with you and Dr. VeZ in a professional manner to work it out. The choice is yours. No, the choice is yours. Dr. Anderson. No comments. Thank you. Uh Mr. Barn, I'll take you up on that. Mrs. We um the state of the district was absolutely fantastic. I was exhausted. I was on vacation. Got home that week and I I was like,

I don't want to go. I'm I'm beat. But when I got there, I perked up so quickly because I was so impressed with the way you all put that together. I mean, it was so creative and just told the story of TVUSD in such a unique way. I mean, I was just I was impressed the whole way through. It was really, really cool. So,

I will be heading on March the 30th along with Mr. Schwarz to participate in a meeting with Councilman Schwank and the Riverside Transit Agency along with Mrs. Lash too, I think. Right. The focus will be the comprehensive analysis, 10-year service plan, and opportunities available through grants. This is an exciting step forward because our district can be part of early ground

floor efforts to reduce traffic in our community and potentially expand our school bus fleet, opening new transportation routes and access for our families. I want to emphasize the importance of finalizing the memorandum of understanding with Riverside Health so we can move forward serving our families and students for free. Delays only hurt the very people we are here to support. Regarding the grading policies,

lowering the passing grade to a D is a disaster for our students. It weakens their academic foundation and directly impacts our college and career readiness indicators. We should maintain a C is the minimum passing standard. It communicates higher expectations and better prepares our students for life beyond high school. I'd also like to highlight the innovation teacher uh on special assignment at Summit Academy Summit

Academy who is incorporating realworld learning through model building that integrates English language arts and mathematics. This kind of hands-on project-based learning is exactly what helps student students apply academic uh concepts to solve real problems and connect learning to future careers. When budgets when budget permits, we need to explore more of these types of opportunities for our teachers.

Can I have some more time, please? I mean, it's just No, you I'll give you 10 seconds because you think you've been interrupted. That's it. We just we don't want to see you. My time is going. Okay. Yeah. It's because you're wasting it. No, I'm not. It's just, you know, this is crazy. 45. You got You got

15 more seconds on top of this. And I'll keep track. Um I'll give you uh let's be I did not for the record. There was a raise offered to every school board member up here. Emil Barham did not take the raise. And I am officially going to, and I will work with you, Mrs. Lash, on this. I am officially going to uh donate my first

uh part of my increase after taxes, I guess, are taken out to uh Chapperelstunt. Thank you, Mr. Schwarz. H uh I did mention I did eight visits between um the last board meeting and this one. I was invited to Tmacula Lucenu uh for ReadAcross America. I was invited by the new club at Tmacula Valley High School called Bridge Initiatives uh to

speak to them. We had a really nice dialogue. Um, you know, I wasn't going to say anything, but people sometimes just don't let stuff go, so I'm going to say it. You know, usually when I read the Bible, I read the Old Testament. However, once in a while, I get to read the New Testament. And um, if you guys are familiar with the phrase,

people who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. Well, in John 8:7 it said uh Jesus said, excuse me, "Let him who is without you among si he let him who is without sin among you cast the first stone at her." You know, we had a 54page investigation by Nicole Miller. I will bring it in again and I will share it with anyone who

wants. I thought that issue had been put to bed, but apparently some people just can't leave things alone. So, Mrs. Wearsma, you should not be the one casting stones at me. When I made that remark at the last meeting with the height mic, the next day when I found out about it, I called um I texted the superintendent and Dr.

Anderson and apologized for making that remark. Now, like when you're walking around at night and you stub your toe on your bed post, do you say, "Oh, sugar daddies." No, you say something worse. I was angry at the remark. And I will tell you, I don't appreciate being called a groomer or a pedophile. And so, if I responded in that way,

it was inappropriate. I apologize to any of the young people who have never heard those words. I'm sure they're never uttered on a playground in a high school during a basketball game uh when they're chatting with their friends. So, I was not going to say anything about Nicole Miller and Associates, but if any of you want to

read the investigation and the conclusion, I'll bring it in again. I'll make a copy for you and I'll be happy to share it with you. Thank you. I'm going to yield my comments. It's late. Um future agenda. Oh, superintendent comments. Dr. Vez, I'm going to keep mine super brief tonight. It's been a long night for everyone, but

I know that some of the board members have already acknowledged that TBUSD hosted its first state of the district last night, which took a creative and student centered approach to celebrating the incredible work happening across our schools. The event was a tremendous um success made possible by the participation of over 500 students in this district to make last night happen and

the dedication of staff who generously gave of their time with we had over 200 people um from the community attend our very first event last night. So that was wonderful. Um, and this is hot off the press and I feel like I've been waiting with baited breath the whole entire time to say to say this, but we are super excited to

share that just today, Great Oak High School and Tmacula Middle School have just been named as 2026 California Distinguished Schools. Yes, it's huge. Yeah, the recognition highlights the exceptional work of our students, our staff, the leadership in creating strong academic outcomes and a culture of excellence on their campus. Congratulations to both of those schools, to Miss Miss Dr. Lane and to Mr. Morton for this

outstanding and their staff for this outstanding achievement and continuing to represent TBUSD with pride. And as we move into the next few weeks, many of our schools will be welcoming families for open house. This is such an exciting time. And if you're on campuses right now at all, you will see all the decorations happening in all the hallways

at the elementary school. And it's really just a wonderful opportunity to celebrate the learning happening in our classrooms. It's a really great time to reflect on the progress that our students have made in this district and we look for when looking to be really strong to finish out this year. I want to thank our students and our staff

and families for continuing to make this district exceptional. I do want to give a huge shout out to Miss Anna Sebar tonight. It was a hard night. You did a great job. And to my staff, you guys have been here since 7:30 this morning. So, a special thank you to my staff as well. And have a good night. Thank you, Dr. Um, future

agenda items before uh, Dr. Before we move on, can I give my comment? Oh, yeah. Yes. Excuse me. Okay. Melissa Chai. Thank you, Dr. K. U, I actually had a really meaningful, respectful conversation with one of the student leaders of the Great Oak Club that hosted the guest speaker event last week. And I think I've been able to hear perspectives from a

lot of different students across campuses as well. From those conversations both at Great Oak and at my own school, it seems like much of that situation stemmed from miscommunication between students, but also between students and administration. My hope moving forward is simply that we continue working to strengthen communication channels so that concerns can be addressed more clearly and earlier on. From what

I've heard from students, I think that situation ultimately escalated more than anyone intended. On a different note, I'm really excited to share that the culture fair event I hosted at Shapra was a huge success. We actually filled the stands in the Ox gym and had to bring out our backup chairs, which I definitely didn't expect. I worked

really hard alongside my leadership team to organize that event, and I'm incredibly grateful for everyone who came out to support it. It meant a lot to see so many district staff members in attendance as well. So, thank you to everyone in the community who helped make that event such a special experience. I was also very honored to

be part of TVSD's first state of the district event last night. I had the opportunity to MC the HRD segment alongside Mr. Barse and it was a really great experience representing students at such an important district event. Shout out to Abby from Great Oak, Lizzy from TV, and Sage and Cody from Susan Nelson for doing an amazing job

as the other student MC's. I'd also like to give a quick shout out to several of our district's literacy professionals who generously gave me their time last week so I could interview them for my AP research paper. I know everyone has really busy schedules, so I really appreciated them making time to support my project. And lastly, student board member applications have now been

open for about a week and will close on April 12th. As I mentioned before, I'm completely open to speaking with any student who is interested in running for the position, regardless of what school they attend or what perspectives they may bring. I will not be directly endorsing any individual candidate, but I'm happy to answer questions and share information about the

role so that students can use what they learn to support their own campaigns. I'll also be using my platform to highlight every uh candidates's campaign so that voters have access to information about everyone running. My sharing of those posts will not indicate endorsement, but rather my goal of making sure students have the information they need to make an informed choice on election day.

That's all from me. Have a good morning. Thanks, Melissa. Please forgive me for uh for getting that part there on including you on those comments. Um before we move on, I want to take a moment to clarify the purpose of future agenda items portion of this meeting. This is the appropriate time for trustees to raise potential agenda items for consideration,

ask clarifying questions, or request future discussion. Raising items helps to ring ratings. Raising items here helps to ensure transparency, allows staff adequate time to prepare and supports a thoughtful and orderly agenda setting process. Submitting items at the last minute places an unnecessary burden on staff and limits our ability to have informed, productive discussions. As we move forward, I encourage trustees to use this

agenda item to surface requests in a timely and respectful manner consistent with our government role and our shared commitment to supporting staff and serving students well. And I'll just read off the few that we have. Um, bullying and student discipline for the next meeting, strategic plan update, CTE update, safety and security update. With that said, we'll take it one by one. Mrs. WD and

future John items you want to mention now. I don't think I'll speak to that tonight. Okay. Dr. Anderson. Yes, but I'm going to wait and just submit it. Okay. Mr. Bar, are those Dr. Vez are those written reports that he just mentioned? Dr. Dr. Kamaskki just mentioned those have yet to be determined. We haven't had that conversation. I would suggest that is a lot

of information and reports for one particular meeting whether it's written or whether it's a presentation. So I would be hoping we can push some of these to probably the May meeting. Okay? Because when I ask when I say state my future agenda items, I don't want them to be written reports. I want them to be presentations. So I'm

going on the record now. I'm not making this one for next month. I don't know quite when I'm gonna do it. I know you're tired, doctor. So, I'm I I'm going to I want a presentation on artificial intelligence in TVUSD as it relates to the cell phone policy. And people here know what I mean by that, but I don't want it for next month. But I'm

stating it as a future agenda item and that I want it to be as a presentation in the next two or three months. Okay, Mr. Schwarz, in the spirit of getting these meetings moving and focused where they belong, unless I have something that directly relates to student achievement, I will not be putting anything on the agenda anymore.

All right. Uh announcement of the next meeting. The next regular open session business meeting of the governing board of education is scheduled for Thursday, April 16, 2026. This meeting is adjourned on Wednesday, March 11, 2026 at 12:31.